Massage Parlor Reports

I often come here and this time I had some bad lower back pain. My provider was able to work it out with a very strong rub and hot stones. Her massage is the best I ever had. Half of the hour long sessions had me snoozing. She suggested cupping for my lower back for addition $25. I agreed and she applied the cups for about 15 minutes. On the flip I talked a little and she is very nice in responding. She plays hard to get. I could not touch her. Each time she would pull away. But the finish was great. She has an amazing body and is a fitness nut. I really wish I could get to know her better. Anyway, got cleaned up and she help me dress. I'm hitting this place a couple of time a month and will continue. Enjoy!

I tried to get an appointment with Ginger very recently, but she is only working a few days a week. A couple months ago, she sent me to Dara. I liked Dara better than a previous poster or two. I told Ginger I wanted a 'serious workout' and gave me the # and address for Donut, and her address.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/reston-va-usa/6579274.html[/URL]

The Donut moniker is one of those opposing nicknames. Like Tiny, who is a giant. She is sweet, but possibly even thinner than the photos. I went with an hr $. 2, and as she stepped out she said 'D. Would take care of anything extra at the end. ' There was another attractive provider watching TV when I arrived, so I figured maybe she had been clued in for what I was seeking, and that was above her pay grade.

Her English was a bit better than the massage, and we could make some small talk. No real teasing, a pretty chilly room. Massage was not great, below average. Once she had me flip, she folded a small towel over me, and stepped out.

The shower ran for a minute or two and a different, curvier and well endowed provider came in. Not fully BBW, nicely curvy. I believe it may have been Luna.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-sensaul-massage-with-sexy-women-by-luna-703-956-0027/6592297.html[/URL]

She initially asked to make sure we were on the same page, and I misunderstood. I thought she was asking for an additional $$ for the last 20 minutes. I balked at that, and I agreed to yes, more than original fee and 'I would take care of it.'

This portion went as I had somewhat hoped, adding a C to Ginger's normal repertoire, and some nice enthusiasm during CBJ, DATY, and ending with quite a bit more than that. I tipped $ and she was happy. Not sure if I would repeat. I would call Dara again if Ginger was not available, I think.

YMMV.

Could anyone shed some light on how several hidden cameras were installed throughout the AMP establishment and no one noticed anything. Not even the ladies noticed anything?

They don't have much in those rooms where hidden cameras can be installed without a tiny, still visible, hole poking through. . Maybe the vents, smoke detectors?

Finally, is there a defense against hidden Cams?

I thought these AMPs would be extremely careful about being monitored like that. It's not that hard to conduct visual inspections of a place you have complete control over.

[QUOTE=ScorpionFrog;4166974]Could anyone shed some light on how several hidden cameras were installed throughout the AMP establishment and no one noticed anything. Not even the ladies noticed anything?

They don't have much in those rooms where hidden cameras can be installed without a tiny, still visible, hole poking through. . Maybe the vents, smoke detectors?

Finally, is there a defense against hidden Cams?

I thought these AMPs would be extremely careful about being monitored like that. It's not that hard to conduct visual inspections of a place you have complete control over.[/QUOTE]The day after they got the warrant they concocted a bomb scare at the AMP and fully evacuated it. That's when they planted the cameras.

Decided to break my routine and give Papaya Therapy in Annandale a try this morning. It used to be called something else (I don't remember). Last time I visited this location, it has probably been 4 or 5 years.

Greeted by my provider in the inner lobby. Slender gal in jean shorts and tank top. I would guess mid-30's. Very pretty. She asked if I had been here before— I told her it has been a few years to which she laughed and said "we are both new!

Table shower was good and thorough. Massage was great. On the flip, standard NOVA finish. Overall, great AMP experience.

Really lovely girl, spoke good English, would make little jokes and laugh at herself. Would definitely recommend. As PA likes to say, YMMV.

[QUOTE=Crankcase;4166916]I tried to get an appointment with Ginger very recently, but she is only working a few days a week. A couple months ago, she sent me to Dara. I liked Dara better than a previous poster or two. I told Ginger I wanted a 'serious workout' and gave me the # and address for Donut, and her address.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/reston-va-usa/6579274.html[/URL]

The Donut moniker is one of those opposing nicknames. Like Tiny, who is a giant. She is sweet, but possibly even thinner than the photos. I went with an hr $. 2, and as she stepped out she said 'D. Would take care of anything extra at the end. ' There was another attractive provider watching TV when I arrived, so I figured maybe she had been clued in for what I was seeking, and that was above her pay grade.

Her English was a bit better than the massage, and we could make some small talk. No real teasing, a pretty chilly room. Massage was not great, below average. Once she had me flip, she folded a small towel over me, and stepped out.

The shower ran for a minute or two and a different, curvier and well endowed provider came in. Not fully BBW, nicely curvy. I believe it may have been Luna.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-sensaul-massage-with-sexy-women-by-luna-703-956-0027/6592297.html[/URL]

She initially asked to make sure we were on the same page, and I misunderstood. I thought she was asking for an additional $$ for the last 20 minutes. I balked at that, and I agreed to yes, more than original fee and 'I would take care of it.'

This portion went as I had somewhat hoped, adding a C to Ginger's normal repertoire, and some nice enthusiasm during CBJ, DATY, and ending with quite a bit more than that. I tipped $ and she was happy. Not sure if I would repeat. I would call Dara again if Ginger was not available, I think.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Donut is Dara's daughter. The person who made the assist is, I belive, Jenny who used to share Ginger's apartment. Jenny was out of the area for a while, but is back now and Dara, Donut, and Jenny are all working out of the same place.

[QUOTE=SexAddict96;4166600]I went to Smooth Water based on previous reviews about BBBJ. Went there and a upper 40's to 50's lady which turned out to be Chinese took care of me. Opted for 30 min. No ts so straight to massage which was pretty relaxing. Flipped and I asked about BJ. She said no and that a worker there was fired because of reports on the internet. This is FYI.[/QUOTE]Wow maybe someone read the report. My guess would be he went there and expecting a BJ when declined talked about how someone said she did it. Whether true or not it shouldn't have been mentioned. I know situations with spas and salons the same thing happened to them and women loat jobs. Rhe men who do these things are haters and losers to the core.

[QUOTE=Mandane;4167288]The day after they got the warrant they concocted a bomb scare at the AMP and fully evacuated it. That's when they planted the cameras.[/QUOTE]For LE to go through the trouble of all that, they must be targeting a specific person (who is a major player in the AMP world down there) or group of owners (who are conspiring together) to have them go through all the effort to plant cameras while using a ruse of a bomb scare. For the normal AMP operation, having an undercover cop go in to check things out is all what I have have ever read about when LE wants to shut a place down. And when it comes to reports of human trafficking for asian spas, I only read about Chinese operated and staffed AMPs being linked, by LE, to human trafficking. Korean spas usually avoid this type of negative characterization.

[QUOTE=Serpico99;4168168]For LE to go through the trouble of all that, they must be targeting a specific person (who is a major player in the AMP world down there) or group of owners (who are conspiring together) to have them go through all the effort to plant cameras while using a ruse of a bomb scare. For the normal AMP operation, having an undercover cop go in to check things out is all what I have have ever read about when LE wants to shut a place down. And when it comes to reports of human trafficking for asian spas, I only read about Chinese operated and staffed AMPs being linked, by LE, to human trafficking. Korean spas usually avoid this type of negative characterization.[/QUOTE]Is that most people probably don't know or care to know the difference between how Chinese & Korean AMPs are run but yeah, I agree with you 100%. That whole Kraft issue is a little fishy though. Since most people pay in cash, supposedly they stopped his car on a "routine traffic stop" after one of his other non-filmed visits in order to get his name. Sounds like a setup to me. Catch a few huge perps and continue this "holier than thou" mentality.

[QUOTE=FullWood;4167890]Wow maybe someone read the report. My guess would be he went there and expecting a BJ when declined talked about how someone said she did it. Whether true or not it shouldn't have been mentioned. I know situations with spas and salons the same thing happened to them and women loat jobs. Rhe men who do these things are haters and losers to the core.[/QUOTE]Actually, he didn't, he got banned

If anyone has a trip north planned, I'd be more than happy to fill you in on what I discovered north of the border. Imagine not having to worry about tips and menu's. It's a completely different game up there.

Sure is going to make it difficult to get back into the NoVA thing.

Stoop.

[QUOTE=Serpico99;4168168]And when it comes to reports of human trafficking for asian spas, I only read about Chinese operated and staffed AMPs being linked, by LE, to human trafficking. Korean spas usually avoid this type of negative characterization.[/QUOTE]Definitely the case up here. I've never once come across a girl in the NOVA AMP scene that spoke no english or couldn't leave the building. The korean girls especially speak decent enough english and usually rolling in porsches / bmws / audis / benz / etc (and that's not just mamasans).

Is Sandra still operating on Leesburg Pike? Tried calling this weekend to set something up with her or Vivian and couldn't reach her. Anyone seen her lately?

[QUOTE=Serpico99;4149117]I was in the area of Manassas and stopped by to see Nikki at Massage Dragon Spa. The place is one block over from the post office (not to be confused with the other Chinese AMP that is next to the post office). For those that know Nikki, she is a tall (maybe like 5'11" fit Chinese provider. Pretty cute. Rates are 50 for half hour, 70 for an hour. She gave standard noVA and was happy with 40 tip, and allowed some OTC roaming. She was rocking some workout tights and her butt was nice to rub. She also does a really good legit massage. I have feeling she wants to keep her services at the standard noVA level.[/QUOTE]Is Nikki the only MP that works at this place? I have seen reviews and they all have been of her. One of the other reviewers said she did not allow any OTC but did do the NOVA finish. Have you gotten a little further as a repeat customer.

Thanks for what ever you can share.

Reading all the goings open down south, I understand that the KMP's are the place to visit. Oddly enough, especially in NOVA. Would anyone mind enlightening me on the ones there? I personally haven't spent enough time in the area to know the difference, been to the greenbelt area but was thinking the few I have visited were AMP. I can assist with Richmond scene if that helps.

Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=BoatMan1952;4169196]Is Nikki the only MP that works at this place? I have seen reviews and they all have been of her. One of the other reviewers said she did not allow any OTC but did do the NOVA finish. Have you gotten a little further as a repeat customer.

Thanks for what ever you can share.[/QUOTE]She is not the only one working at the Dragon. I don't know why the others have never made it in the reviews. Once they had three. Cici, which gets lots of appointments but is in China on vacation now, she will be back. And Candy was there also, she had a better menu. Now there is another lady named Lulu. She will be leaving Monday. She has a great massage. I'll be sure to post here when new talent shows up.

[QUOTE=Wp212;4169032]Definitely the case up here. I've never once come across a girl in the NOVA AMP scene that spoke no english or couldn't leave the building. The korean girls especially speak decent enough english and usually rolling in porsches / bmws / audis / benz / etc (and that's not just mamasans).[/QUOTE]I ask around and given my tenure, I get to know some of the ladies. On average they make 2 sometimes 3 grand a week depending on place popularity. That's more than I certainly make a week and I'm sure thats the case for most of us (except maybe Kraft) When I had this conversation I laughed at my provider and said “damn so you should be tipping me!” So yeah, maybe not the job with the best perks, but certainly a lucrative one when you consider the alternatives.

[QUOTE=Mandane;4167288]The day after they got the warrant they concocted a bomb scare at the AMP and fully evacuated it. That's when they planted the cameras.[/QUOTE]Correct me if I am wrong, but calling in a bomb scare is illegal, even if you are the cops.

[QUOTE=Mandane;4167718]Donut is Dara's daughter. The person who made the assist is, I belive, Jenny who used to share Ginger's apartment. Jenny was out of the area for a while, but is back now and Dara, Donut, and Jenny are all working out of the same place.[/QUOTE]I messaged Donut a while ago. She requested a photo of my I'd. Then got all pissy when I said no.

Visiting Florida on the other coast (West). C Ladies are complaining business is really down. "Please come often. " (I don't know if that was a pun or not.) LOL.

One said it was thought by her buddies, they were targeting friends of Trump. . not sure if true, but that is what was said.

There several speak very little English and others speak perfect English and drive Lexus'. So I assume some are just off the boat and others have worked off their debts for getting here from China. "3 hard and long years. " . And now enjoying the American dream! . and no college bills to pay. For low salaey entry jobs. On balance, interesting proposition to improve you whole future?

HG2.

[QUOTE=GripNSip;4169713]I ask around and given my tenure, I get to know some of the ladies. On average they make 2 sometimes 3 grand a week depending on place popularity. That's more than I certainly make a week and I'm sure thats the case for most of us (except maybe Kraft) When I had this conversation I laughed at my provider and said damn so you should be tipping me! So yeah, maybe not the job with the best perks, but certainly a lucrative one when you consider the alternatives.[/QUOTE]Somewhere on this forum (or maybe it was the "Media Reports" forum) a monger posted a link to the 17 page affidavit that described the goings on.

Reading it, I didn't take perfect notes but I remember the detective in charge spent about 10 days outside of the AMP from 8 AM-11 PM counting customers. That must have been incredibly boring! And even thought is was winter, it is still Florida. So he had to be running his A / C the whole time. (That's why I love those used Crown Vics you can get from a government auction. Great radiators and trans coolers. They can idle for hours! But, I degres.).

But anyway, in general it was about (only) 10 customers a day that went into this place. But, if you think about it: 10/ day * $100 - $1,000/ day = $30,000 per month (Not a bad cash flow.

Breaking it down some more, the house is getting $60/ hour. That's $600/ day. $18,000/ month. I've heard that they split that with the provider 60%house /40%provider. So the house gets $10,800 (call it $11,000). The rent runs around $3,000 and another $2,000 for expenses. That's $6,000/ month for the house. Most AMPs I know of, the owner runs a couple of parlours. So, if they are running 3 they are bringing in around $18,000 mostly cash per month. Not too shabby.

No, for the provider. $60 x 40% = $24/ client x 10 aDay = $240/ day. I'm sure at lest 1 customer will tip and extra $10, so $250/ day * 30= $7,500/ month almost all cash (= $90,000 / year, mostly cash. I'm sure those ladies aren't filling out their W-2's. So, yes, after 3 years they've sent home about $300 K. That's not a big amount in Shanghai, but for most of Western China that's OK.

No wonder there seems to be an AMP everywhere you look now. It doesn't take a lot of "foot traffic" to make one profitable.

[QUOTE=WildWalleye;4169724]Correct me if I am wrong, but calling in a bomb scare is illegal, even if you are the cops.[/QUOTE]They didn't call it in, they just faked it. From [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/sports/robert-kraft-jupiter-orchids-arrest.html[/URL].

At Goodfella's Pizza several doors down, the owner, Joseph Bompartito, said he had been working late waiting for a delivery on Jan. 17 when, at about 11:30 pm, a swarm of police cars pulled up to the mall and evacuated the massage parlor, claiming there was a suspicious package and a possible bomb threat. But officers did not evacuate any other businesses in the strip mall, which made Mr. Bompartito suspect that something unlawful was going on at the massage parlor. Now, he said, he thinks that was when the police might have planted video cameras inside, a conclusion backed up by the police timeline released on Friday.

"If it was a real bomb scare, why wouldn't they have evacuated the rest of the mall?" he said.

[QUOTE=Mandane;4170104]They didn't call it in, they just faked it. From [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/sports/robert-kraft-jupiter-orchids-arrest.html[/URL].

At Goodfella's Pizza several doors down, the owner, Joseph Bompartito, said he had been working late waiting for a delivery on Jan. 17 when, at about 11:30 pm, a swarm of police cars pulled up to the mall and evacuated the massage parlor, claiming there was a suspicious package and a possible bomb threat. But officers did not evacuate any other businesses in the strip mall, which made Mr. Bompartito suspect that something unlawful was going on at the massage parlor. Now, he said, he thinks that was when the police might have planted video cameras inside, a conclusion backed up by the police timeline released on Friday.

"If it was a real bomb scare, why wouldn't they have evacuated the rest of the mall?" he said.[/QUOTE]***** please, you know he was heading next door to that spa after work at night LOL.

[QUOTE=Kijimuna;4169766]I messaged Donut a while ago. She requested a photo of my I'd. Then got all pissy when I said no.[/QUOTE]If you have seen any of the other Thai providers you might be able to leverage that in place of an picture of your ID as I am fairly confident that most of them use the same screener. You might think you are texting Donut, Dara, or Jenny, but it's just another Thai lady who takes and makes the appointments for them all. Of course they are unlikely to own up to that, but I know for sure she exists. Not sure how many providers she works for, but I suspect it's quite a few.

Sharing, be careful out there.

[URL]https://wtkr.com/2019/02/26/williamsburg-police-make-prostitution-arrest-at-day-spa/[/URL]

So I went back to 11 in Herndon today after an amazing experience about a month ago, previously reported. I had a different provider (I did not catch her name) so I went for 30 min. Nice person mid 30's natural C's very nice tight body. So when I tried to get her to take off her cloths and do a nude massage she declined. After she started the massage she did eventually expose her goodies, but was rather standoffish at my playfulness. I asked to get on the table with me so I could enjoy her and she declined. She was quite willing to do a nice prostate massage and ultimately I dropped my load on her beautiful C's. When I step out to monger I want to partake and enjoy the gorgeous curves of the female body as well as Nova finish. She made some of that difficult. I thought I had a new go-to place but now may need to rethink that.

In our early back and forth I told her I would drop $ but I do not feel I got my money's worth.

For a $80 hour session, the provider gets $30 and the tip. For a half hour session, the provider gets $10 and the tip. There is a reason most of the providers drive high end cars. AMP is a very lucrative business.

[QUOTE=OhioRich;4169937]Somewhere on this forum (or maybe it was the "Media Reports" forum) a monger posted a link to the 17 page affidavit that described the goings on.

Reading it, I didn't take perfect notes but I remember the detective in charge spent about 10 days outside of the AMP from 8 AM-11 PM counting customers. That must have been incredibly boring! And even thought is was winter, it is still Florida. So he had to be running his A / C the whole time. (That's why I love those used Crown Vics you can get from a government auction. Great radiators and trans coolers. They can idle for hours! But, I degres.).

But anyway, in general it was about (only) 10 customers a day that went into this place. But, if you think about it: 10/ day * $100 - $1,000/ day = $30,000 per month (Not a bad cash flow.

Breaking it down some more, the house is getting $60/ hour. That's $600/ day. $18,000/ month. I've heard that they split that with the provider 60%house /40%provider. So the house gets $10,800 (call it $11,000). The rent runs around $3,000 and another $2,000 for expenses. That's $6,000/ month for the house. Most AMPs I know of, the owner runs a couple of parlours. So, if they are running 3 they are bringing in around $18,000 mostly cash per month. Not too shabby..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GilBang;4144710]Went a couple of days ago and got probably the woman you got. The performance was also meh. However, someone else just posted about an MT (I think named Mya) with some D's on her who sounded like they were a good performer there. I'll probably try four seasons again soon and see if I can get this other one, if not, I'll just leave and scratch it off the list, there are several options in Annandale with great service.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. For obvious reasons, trust me, I didn't miss the mention of D cups. But after my first visit, I will not go back. I just saw another report where another had a bad experience.

Lovejugs.

[QUOTE=GripNSip;4170285]***** please, you know he was heading next door to that spa after work at night LOL.[/QUOTE]He was just going to deliver a pizza.

[QUOTE=Lovejugs;4172029]Thanks for the report. For obvious reasons, trust me, I didn't miss the mention of D cups. But after my first visit, I will not go back. I just saw another report where another had a bad experience.

Lovejugs.[/QUOTE]I didn't actually go back. I read the other report of a bad experience and they're not even an option anymore.

[QUOTE=RidgeRacer;4169063]Is Sandra still operating on Leesburg Pike? Tried calling this weekend to set something up with her or Vivian and couldn't reach her. Anyone seen her lately?[/QUOTE]Tried calling again today and the number is now disconnected. Sad. If anyone knows how to reach Sandra or any of the other providers there please send me a PM. Thanks.

Needed a massage so I went to the legit one that doesn't entertain standard nova or any other options outside of a great massage. (The Blue Sky).

Unfortunately my masseuse wasn't available so I went to GC as I've never been. MMS answers the door and takes me to a room where "Kandy" follows in shortly after. Kandy is 5. 4/5. 5 in ht, kind of muscular thick like Helen in Manassas but Kandy has a better firm natural rack and quite a nice soft ass. Onward we went with a TS & MASSAGE, hers was pretty good, not Blue Sky but still very relieving! We get to the flip which was not the reason for my visit but I decided to take advantage of what was avail. I gave. 6 for BBBJ assisted by standard nova. All, said and done, it was a good time. $. 4 in all.

Creepin.

I just had a visit with Reya. You can find her ad on bedpage. Amazing massage that hit all the right spots. Her location was in a large complex many people in and out. But that's a good thing because they don't know if you live there or what. No one at the front desk asking questions kind of thing.

She is probably 5 ft 2 and definitely a spinner. 10/10 in every department. If I could dream of a woman I wanted. That would be it. So her price is kind of high for a legit massage but for me it was worth it. You get some roaming and touching but that's about it. Maybe you smooth talkers can do more. It could be the news environment and how I asked idk. Anyway, I'll visit many times again just because and see where it goes.

Overall if you want a young spinner in the DC area. She's the only one I have ever seen besides off Tinder. Go see her before someone marries this girl LOL.

[QUOTE=RidgeRacer;4173519]Tried calling again today and the number is now disconnected. Sad. If anyone knows how to reach Sandra or any of the other providers there please send me a PM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I called yesterday and someone picked up and asked if I want to schedule an appointment. Think you may have called at a bad time.

Visited ST in WS. Many other reviews (and a few of my own) with details on the parking and condition of facilities (no changes. All good).

CeCe (or CiCi or CC. Pick your spelling) met me at door, escorted to studio 1.

Collected standard for hour.

A completely average (enjoyed but blah) massage experience.

6/8/8/7.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.

Stopped in today and there is a new crew, Jessica and Ruby. I drew Jessica and received the high standard treatment for which Angels is known. Jessica is similar to Ivy, if you remember her, but is younger. Very funny and speaks English well. I will definitely return. I only had time today for half hour and didn't take the offer of a TS.

[QUOTE=JustAsk9;4174935]I just had a visit with Reya. You can find her ad on bedpage. Amazing massage that hit all the right spots.

So her price is kind of high for a legit massage but for me it was worth it. You get some roaming and touching but that's about it.[/QUOTE]Do you mean there's no finish, NOVA or otherwise?

If this is her ad, image search shows her pix on a lot of Thai model pages.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/shirlington-arlington-va-usa/6229104.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mustang946;4176048]Stopped in today and there is a new crew, Jessica and Ruby. I drew Jessica and received the high standard treatment for which Angels is known. Jessica is similar to Ivy, if you remember her, but is younger. Very funny and speaks English well. I will definitely return. I only had time today for half hour and didn't take the offer of a TS.[/QUOTE]I'm going to be actually in the fairfax area for a few days for a business meeting next week. Do they have a website? And is it easy to get an appointment?

Went today to see what story is behind Spa-Sung. First of all, it's in an office park with ample parking away from the main road. The interior is the best I have ever seen in a massage parlor. Today, there was only one girls there. Amy. She is in her forties, but still tight and decent looking.

I asked for a 60 minute massage for $80. The massage was excellent. Very thorough and good pressure. Next came the teasing with light touch and play with the goodies. After the flip she asked me what I want, and I answered:"everything".

Unfortunately she was on her period, but she indicated that the menu was wide open the next time I come. She took off her top and revealed a nice rack to play with. Great NOVA finish. $60 tip. Will come back! Probably not in April however as she told me that she would be traveling the whole month to her country and be back in May.

[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;4176115]Do you mean there's no finish, NOVA or otherwise?

If this is her ad, image search shows her pix on a lot of Thai model pages.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/shirlington-arlington-va-usa/6229104.html[/URL][/QUOTE]NOVA included.