Green Man Newbie, read up!!!!!
Look here. I'm going to be real; Don't do this. Not yet at least. It's a very bad habit for someone your age. It will hamper your social development and it can be very dangerous. You are too young to start this. This is something a man gets into as he gets older, his real life choices are limited, and he still wants to bang young hotties without all the fuss of dating them.
You're only 18. Get out and meet them the old fashioned way. It's better for self esteem at your age. I doesn't matter what you look like, just be confident and the girls will love you. Trust me I know. You DO NOT WANT TO GET STARTED DOING THIS AT YOUR AGE!!!
Learn about women first. Travel. Meet girls of all kinds and races. I'm assuming you have no kids. Go see the world. Take two years off from school and work and go see what you can see. Spend time in different countries. Don't get anyone knocked up, be safe and fuck as many girls as you can during your travels. You will learn so much about women, life and more importantly; yourself.
Save this for your middle age. By then, you may not even want to do it because you may have found what you want. If you have any problems meeting girls I suggest you pick up a book called "Double Your Dating" by David De Angelo. That book is for real and you can meet really hot girls you don't have to pay for. Imagine how good it would feel to get the girls you want just off the strength of your personality. Once you get that down, it will spill over into all aspects of your life and you'll be more successful at everything because of you confidence.
Then, when you get older and you want to this, it will be from an aspect of convenience and sport. Not desperation. Think it over.
If anyone else out there agrees with me, let this guy know.
P.P.
When you can find anything presentable.
[QUOTE=Webcams]50-75 is the going rate this week with the cold and the holidays and the economy not so good, one semi regular told me most guys on the fig track offer 20-30 so the 40-60 is a good date.
Just thought I would offer that up for you guys. more then 80 on the track and your really getting worked.[/QUOTE]
That is whenever you get lucky enough to find someone that you would want to date.
You get what you pay for.
How NOT to Pick Up Girls.
[QUOTE=Paco Herte]Hey guys,
Quick question. Do those books, or that book by Deangelo really work in meeting the ladies? I've always had my share of the ladies, even without the mongering. But I've heard on adds and junk e-mails that it really works. So, it is true?[/QUOTE]
I was intrigued enough by the discussions on this book to order the online PDF and looked at it today. And man, if you don't already know anything he says in it, you're hopeless. And if the clumsy things he advises you to say don't get your face slapped or make the woman roll her eyes and walk away laughing, I'd be amazed. Most of the book consists of telling you to read a pile of other books and watch James Bond movies and - get this - go on AOL to practice talking to women.
In my experience, the streetwalkers are only a slightly lower class of woman than what you find on AOL. It's not that they are trashy sluts on AOL - they're mostly women with a lot of throwpillows with lighthouses on them who weigh 300 lbs waiting for "a real man" to come sweep them off their feet, i.e., marry them so they can quit their jobs.
The rest of them are just paranoid nutcases who won't have a normal conversation with any man who approaches them online.
Nope, these books are a rehashing of the "how to pick up girls" stuff from the classifieds in Penthouse back in the 70's, with a chapter thrown in about how easy it is to talk to women online. What is this, 1995?
If you have these books and use them and are wondering why you still monger, it's cause the method doesn't work any better than any other "method" devised to help introverts overcome their fear of women.
If it works for you and you're still mongering, it's cause you're addicted to mongering, like many of us who fall into it.
I myself have given the life up but I still like to read here to see what's going on. I cruise the spots I know once in a while and window shop. But the risks outweigh the benefits for me at this stage, so I don't partake.
The books may be of some value to a young guy - it's tough when you are starting out, cause women know they have all the power. So I suppose it may help some, but the most valuable thing it is this: it advises to make five or so friends who are successful with women, and ask them to mentor you. Good idea. So there's one thing...
Women are 51% of the population. With that demographic, they can alter elections, overthrow governments, or enact legislation to eliminate the so called "glass ceiling"; and while a man's options in life are work til you die or just plain die, they can work, stay home, take a few years off to get their head together, etc., etc., etc.
Ever wonder why the number of men having sex change surgery to become women far outnumbers the opposite? Ladies, if you want what men enjoy, the surgery is readily available.. but not too many take the option, eh?
There's a line from a Talking Heads song that goes, "a man can drive a car, but a woman can be a boss, and a monkey and a flower, and anything she wants".
They have all the power they need between their legs and they know it. They just hope we won't figure that out.
That's a lesson included in that book that most guys have figured out by the time they get to their thirties. About the time our looks are waning and our income is finally going up. Result? mongering.