Safe Sex Information and Advice

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5066445]It couldn't spread in the heterosexual community. If a man had it, he could only infect women, and they couldn't infect anyone. It only spread because it was in the gay community. It is also spread among iv drug users, but they can only spread it to other iv drug users. The spread of aids is almost entirely a result of the gay lifestyle, and we're all paying a price.[/QUOTE]How is it that a woman infected with aids wouldn't be able to spread it to anyone? If an infected man fucks a girl and and gives it to her, and she were to go on and have sex with another guy, wouldn't that guy get aids too? I'm no aids expert, but that sounds off. Unless I'm misreading what you said.

I don't doubt that a high percentage of aids patients in the world are gay men, but your narrative needs work.

Have any of you guys contracted lice or scabies from a SW? I would that especially when she is giving you oral, you'd be at greater risk of head lice.

Sorry to gross anyone out, but I can't see how it would be avoided.

That's part of the risk of playing this game. To be honest, I never got STI from a SW. I've gotten a few STI from escorts that were my regulars. If you can believe that! I've done it all, BBBJ, BBFS. But, no anal. Just know that BMC Health Clinic is down the street from NMS if you ever need it. If you're that worried, cover up.

[QUOTE=JimMack;5072150]Have any of you guys contracted lice or scabies from a SW? I would that especially when she is giving you oral, you'd be at greater risk of head lice.

Sorry to gross anyone out, but I can't see how it would be avoided.[/QUOTE]

Jock itch from yeast infections are your main concern. If your itching go get some cream. And yes you can get jock itch from their mouth. Especially if they got some nubbs which will be the norm if the reports of massive amounts of meth being shipped in the US cause of precursor import problems from China with the fynt.

Can't tell ya how many pussies I've helped clean up once I felt an itch. Haha!!

The next time I see 'them I'll buy' them a tube of monistat.

A clean pussy is a healthy pussy.

The clinics test 'them for STI' s which they go on the daily / weekly / monthly depending on binge, drug, person. But even the ones who smoke hard got to go to the clinic for some reason. So STI's don't have a chance to proliferate in the Gen homeless pop.

The escorts are the ones who you going to watch out for. They don't have that care the homeless do.

Indeed, I got HPV from a long time escort that I've seen for years. Homeless SW's does have access to medical treatments than any of us.

"The escorts are the ones who you going to watch out for. They don't have that care the homeless do. ".

[QUOTE=LustyB;5072595]I've picked up or made appointments with all manner of Ho's from high end escorts down to drug addled $10 street ho's and everything in between since 1982. That literally 100's of ho's. I've done BBBJ, BBFS, and covered service.

Never once in almost 40 years have ever gotten as much as the sniffles. No crabs, lice, STI, etc.[/QUOTE]Lucky fucker. Anyway, my last STI was in the mid-early 1990's when I was getting my feet wet in the game. It was a BSW I met on Washington St in Lower Roxbury. Average looks, nice ass, got an STI from her and it scared me shitless. Ended up getting a couple of shots in my ass at the former clinic on Warren St and Quincy. I also had gotten crabs from another BSW and fuck me, if that shit didn't itch and look frightening. Some good ol ointment and a comb cleaned it up in a day.

[QUOTE=JimMack;5072150]Have any of you guys contracted lice or scabies from a SW? I would that especially when she is giving you oral, you'd be at greater risk of head lice.

Sorry to gross anyone out, but I can't see how it would be avoided.[/QUOTE]Most of the STDs might not be very serious. But HIV and Hepatitis will change your life completely.

[QUOTE=JimXuper90;5087236]Most of the STDs might not be very serious. But HIV and Hepatitis will change your life completely.[/QUOTE]I've gotten bed bugs in my car from a SW.

[QUOTE=JimMack;5072150]Have any of you guys contracted lice or scabies from a SW? I would that especially when she is giving you oral, you'd be at greater risk of head lice.

Sorry to gross anyone out, but I can't see how it would be avoided.[/QUOTE]I've never contracted anything while I stayed at 112 shelter.

For 2 years when I was in boston. Trust me I've had my fair share of street walkers while I was down there. It was my addiction if you want to call it that lmao I just ended up in Boston randomly after getting on greyhound I don't have any drug or alcohol issues (surprised a lot of people LOL) but every time I hooked up I used condom for everything, SW would often get offended when I would put a condom on for oral (better safe than sorry haha) anyways it's not too much of the regular STDs your thinking, but HIV and hep c is real big on the ave I mean real big. Most of them have hep c from the needles and a lot of them have the bug. They may get clean needles but they often share tiny caps were they stir drugs that's where everything is transmitted from what I've learned. Just make sure you keep water based lube that's compatible with condoms and go all in. I'm back in Midwest and miss the ave lmao I'm planning on going back for another trip probably will get me a apt and stay for good haha.

Hey all,

Definitely want to get it straight, no sugar coating please. I wanted to know from the experienced mongers who frequent Korean BB girls.

How often have you ever caught an STD from all your time seeing these girls, or seeing your ATF. Just wanted to know what to expect.

I'm not sure if allowed to ask but I just realized as an old provider she's been around the block and worried that I may have STD though I used a condom there not 100 percent effective also want to know if HIV test are covered by medical insurance.

[QUOTE=JohnDick75;5101064]I'm not sure if allowed to ask but I just realized as an old provider she's been around the block and worried that I may have STD though I used a condom there not 100 percent effective also want to know if HIV test are covered by medical insurance.[/QUOTE]Wait, you spend hundreds of dollars to nail some asian skank, then you're worried about having to pay for a simple blood test?

[QUOTE=JohnDick75;5101064]I'm not sure if allowed to ask but I just realized as an old provider she's been around the block and worried that I may have STD though I used a condom there not 100 percent effective also want to know if HIV test are covered by medical insurance.[/QUOTE]Doubt anyone would know what she does or doesn't do.

Every insurance plan is different. Some may cover a test, some may not. You need to contact your insurance company for the answer.

Also you may be pursuing the wrong hobby if you are that worried.

[QUOTE=Spanker100;5101269]Wait, you spend hundreds of dollars to nail some asian skank, then you're worried about having to pay for a simple blood test?[/QUOTE]Not worried about paying worried about paper trail if free they don't usually don't keep much detail it's a lot more simple.

[QUOTE=Sounds;5101283]Doubt anyone would know what she does or doesn't do.

Every insurance plan is different. Some may cover a test, some may not. You need to contact your insurance company for the answer.

Also you may be pursuing the wrong hobby if you are that worried.[/QUOTE]STD's suck but manageable however HIV life changing.

[QUOTE=Sounds;5101283]Doubt anyone would know what she does or doesn't do.

Every insurance plan is different. Some may cover a test, some may not. You need to contact your insurance company for the answer.

Also you may be pursuing the wrong hobby if you are that worried.[/QUOTE]HIV through vaginal, penetrative sex, while the provider is not on her period, where both partners are NOT using a condom, is a 1/5000 chance of transmission, condoms are 99.9% effective at blocking HIV.

This means that there is a 1/5,000,000 chance of you getting HIV from fucking this provider. This means to have a 50/50 chance of it, you'd need to fuck her 2. 5 million times.

If every time you feel a tickle, you jump to "IT MIGHT BE HIV" -- Then you're probably not emotionally ready to have sex, much less pay to do so -- though the reason you're likely not getting sex and have to pay to do so is because you're not emotionally ready.

Vicious cycle.

STD questions should go in the STD Forum and you'll find a lot of information regarding testing and insurance in there. As far as being worried if you have STDs, go get yourself checked out. That's the risk of playing this game regardless of whether you're using protection or not. Dude, if you're worried every time you see a provider, stick with the HE or DIY.

[QUOTE=JohnDick75;5101064]I'm not sure if allowed to ask but I just realized as an old provider she's been around the block and worried that I may have STD though I used a condom there not 100 percent effective also want to know if HIV test are covered by medical insurance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Finder117;5101365]HIV through vaginal, penetrative sex, while the provider is not on her period, where both partners are NOT using a condom, is a 1/5000 chance of transmission, condoms are 99.9% effective at blocking HIV.

This means that there is a 1/5,000,000 chance of you getting HIV from fucking this provider. This means to have a 50/50 chance of it, you'd need to fuck her 2. 5 million times.

If every time you feel a tickle, you jump to "IT MIGHT BE HIV" -- Then you're probably not emotionally ready to have sex, much less pay to do so -- though the reason you're likely not getting sex and have to pay to do so is because you're not emotionally ready.

Vicious cycle.[/QUOTE]Your stats are wrong.

[QUOTE=JohnDick75;5101064]I'm not sure if allowed to ask but I just realized as an old provider she's been around the block and worried that I may have STD though I used a condom there not 100 percent effective also want to know if HIV test are covered by medical insurance.[/QUOTE]One option is to use an FDA approved home test, like OraQuick. It's available over the counter at CVS / Walgreens and costs like 50 $.

There are some concerns about it reporting false negatives, but you could always buy two and test yourself twice. The odds of two false negatives are exceedingly low.

[QUOTE=Dgell;5101459]One option is to use an FDA approved home test, like OraQuick. It's available over the counter at CVS / Walgreens and costs like 50 $.

There are some concerns about it reporting false negatives, but you could always buy two and test yourself twice. The odds of two false negatives are exceedingly low.[/QUOTE]Yeah thanks I'll do that.

[QUOTE=Katokay;5101377]Your stats are wrong.[/QUOTE]Ah shit, you're right -- 1/2500 and not 1/5000, [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimates/riskbehaviors.html[/URL].

With condoms being 90-95% effective. ([URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9141163/[/URL]).

Thus my number changes from 1/5,000,000 to 1/25,000 - 1/50,000, meaning the the median would be having sex with someone 13,500 times with an infected partner before getting it.

[QUOTE=Katokay;5101377]Your stats are wrong.[/QUOTE]Are these stats accurate someone post this on Rubmaps.

[URL]https://www.poz.com/pdfs/P04-14p53.risk_transmission.pdf[/URL]

Sorry for the newb post. I'm new to the area and also this activity but have read back 60-70 pgs or so in this thread and read about your guys' great escapades.

I'm young and never done this sort of thing but am willing to give it a shot, and some of you mention the dangers of going BB with some of these Kgirls.

I wanted to ask if any of y'all ever actually caught an STI from one of these girls, especially something like Herpes, HIV, etc. (obviously others like chlamydia are bad too but they're at least treatable, right)? Or if you ask a girl if she gets tested / safe, could you expect an honest answer?

Sorry for noob question--I plan to contribute but haven't tested the waters yet for this type of health concern. Any advice is appreciated!

About two years ago after a visit to an AMP in the suburbs I noticed a tingle dealing in the tip of my dock. With time this turned in to constant inflammation, irritation during urination and sometimes painful ejaculation. I'm married, so naturally, I freaked out. I got STD tests and UTI test and they all came back negative. I went out and got Antibiotics and the symptoms went away, only to return after a subsequently had sex with my wife. I had passed the bacteria on to her. What followed were four months of absolute hell, worrying as to how I would ever get rid of the damned tickle dick. Finally, my opportunity came when wife got strep throat, and needed antibiotics. I ran out to the doctor the same day and claimed I too had strep and needed antibiotics. Problem solved.

So I quit the hobby for a while and totally forgot about the whole tickle dock thing. Then, this past month, I got cocky. I went to an AMP in west suburbs. Within weeks, I started feeling tickle duck again. It's back, though the symptoms are not as noticeable. The first time I got tickle dick the MT had put her mouth BBBJ on me briefly. I thought that was how it was transmitted.

This second time, I only got HJ with oil. The place was a bit dirty.

My point: be careful out there, there is something floating around, it is highly contagious, and you're not going to read about it on Google. Also, I seem to have gotten it through a simple HJ.

Of anyone has any shared experience, please share. Advice would be helpful too. I need a new hobby.

After going BBBJ and DFK with a known provider around here every couple weeks, I'm sick again with a really mild sore throat, mild congestion, mild headache and a slightly slow and / or heavy urine stream. I tested negative for everything earlier in the year and never figured out why I was sick for about two months. I tested negative for COVID around TG when I started getting sick for a couple days. I thought I was past it, but now I've been constantly low level sick for about two weeks. This same shit started happening around January when I went BBBJ with a different provider.

Does this sound like anyone's experience with gonorrhea or chlamydia, or is this just another STD scare? I'm thinking maybe it's time to end this hobby if I keep getting these scares.

Just curious. Has anyone here ever caught anything at all from an AMP? If so, was it FS? BJ? HE? Just curious on the risk.

Interesting.

I've had that before as well. A sharp razor-like pain with the first drop of pee. Then it's ok although slight discomfort throughout.

However, no discharge at all. Did you ever find out if it was an STD? Or a UTI? Did the antibiotics clear it up?

I go bare 100%. I know these things can happen!

[QUOTE=CafeRaceritali;5109551]About two years ago after a visit to an AMP in the suburbs I noticed a tingle dealing in the tip of my dock. With time this turned in to constant inflammation, irritation during urination and sometimes painful ejaculation. I'm married, so naturally, I freaked out. I got STD tests and UTI test and they all came back negative. I went out and got Antibiotics and the symptoms went away, only to return after a subsequently had sex with my wife. I had passed the bacteria on to her. What followed were four months of absolute hell, worrying as to how I would ever get rid of the damned tickle dick. Finally, my opportunity came when wife got strep throat, and needed antibiotics. I ran out to the doctor the same day and claimed I too had strep and needed antibiotics. Problem solved.

So I quit the hobby for a while and totally forgot about the whole tickle dock thing. Then, this past month, I got cocky. I went to an AMP in west suburbs. Within weeks, I started feeling tickle duck again. It's back, though the symptoms are not as noticeable. The first time I got tickle dick the MT had put her mouth BBBJ on me briefly. I thought that was how it was transmitted.

This second time, I only got HJ with oil. The place was a bit dirty.

My point: be careful out there, there is something floating around, it is highly contagious, and you're not going to read about it on Google. Also, I seem to have gotten it through a simple HJ.

Of anyone has any shared experience, please share. Advice would be helpful too. I need a new hobby.[/QUOTE]

New to the game, are the girls safe at these Asian apartments?

Any advice from pros will be helpful. Guide on where to visit?

[QUOTE=AGuide;5161886]New to the game, are the girls safe at these Asian apartments?

Any advice from pros will be helpful. Guide on where to visit?[/QUOTE]As in physical safety, very safe. As in STIs who knows you are visiting a girl who may see up to 12 guys a day.

[QUOTE=AGuide;5161886]New to the game, are the girls safe at these Asian apartments?

Any advice from pros will be helpful. Guide on where to visit?[/QUOTE]No, its not 100% safe. There are risks.

[QUOTE=Desparado;5162518]No, its not 100% safe. There are risks.[/QUOTE]How big is the risk of HIV?

Free health check.

Credit to: Brian Detroit Brian.

Just wanted to put a plug in for the Detroit Public Health Clinic at 50 E. Canfield St. In Detroit.

A2 - please move if you think there's a better spot for this post.

I try to go here once a year or so to get the all clear on STDs. Found it a few years back when I had a condom break inside the pussy of a particularly sketchy SP.

They take walk-ins from Monday-Friday 8:00 am to 4:00 pm. There's free parking in a gated lot next door. They test for gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, and HIV. They give HIV results while you're there. Other results take a week, BUT they will treat you for whatever you think you have right then, even before the results come back. That means they give you an antibiotic shot in the ass, and a 7 day supply of pills when you walk out the door.

If you do it right, it is anonymous and costs nothing. They will ask you for an insurance card. Tell them you lost your job and don't have insurance. They will ask you for an I'd. Tell them you lost your wallet and are waiting for another driver's license in the mail. When you fill out the paperwork, you can put a fake name, address, cell phone number, and date of birth. Just make sure you remember what you put, because they will ask for it when you get your results.

I put my burner phone number down as my cell phone number. They will call this number only if your test comes back positive. Put a fake or non-working number if you don't have a burner phone. You can call the clinic number to get your results if you don't want them calling.

Any of us who regularly do anything BB, including BBBJ, should pay them a visit. I've done the STD check website before, which costs $200+ AND then you have to wait to get treated after waiting 3 days for results. The Detroit clinic is a way better option.

Happily got my all clear again last week.

I noticed ads on STG about a reliable AA provider, claiming she's got HIV. Any advice for someone who has seen her recently? I always bring and use my own protection. Real shame if its true, def one of my favs.

[QUOTE=TromB;5183824]I noticed ads on STG about a reliable AA provider, claiming she's got HIV. Any advice for someone who has seen her recently? I always bring and use my own protection. Real shame if its true, def one of my favs.[/QUOTE]Assume they all have HIV and HepC.

Agree, assume they all have the HIV and although I have done it and survived, it's very risky to raw dog them. Every time I've done it, I sweated until I could confirm I didn't pick up anything so I just stopped doing it. Bring your own is the best practice. The HIV is just one of many gifts you don't want. Even though some of these girls can be pretty convincing that they're clean, the bottom line is she fucks mongers for money. Some mongers know they have shit and still raw dog these girls, the next raw dogger will take that home to the wife, gf, etc. I raw dog the gf, and wrap up on the providers.

My 2 cents.

[QUOTE=KillerPurps;5185482]Assume they all have HIV and HepC.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KoolBreeze;5215551]I'm not a BBFS fan. But I see a lot of providers that's hell bent on no BBFS but offer BBBJCIM. Is it me or is that a little crazy. LOL. What's the difference from sending the kids down their throat then her glory hole?. LOL.[/QUOTE]STD risk is lower with BBBJ. Still a risk for herpes transmission (but most have it already). But you can't get HIV from BBBJ. Most of the other bugs can be transmitted orally, but not as readily. The risk of transmission is higher for the provider.

It's also a feature of market demand. If providers could get away with CBJ they would do it, and some of those in higher demand require it.

[QUOTE=Rockies4400;5215609]STD risk is lower with BBBJ. Still a risk for herpes transmission (but most have it already). But you can't get HIV from BBBJ. Most of the other bugs can be transmitted orally, but not as readily. The risk of transmission is higher for the provider.

It's also a feature of market demand. If providers could get away with CBJ they would do it, and some of those in higher demand require it.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure CIM make the risk just as high. Not a doctor so I'm not sure.

[QUOTE=Rockies4400;5215609]STD risk is lower with BBBJ. Still a risk for herpes transmission (but most have it already). But you can't get HIV from BBBJ. Most of the other bugs can be transmitted orally, but not as readily. The risk of transmission is higher for the provider.

It's also a feature of market demand. If providers could get away with CBJ they would do it, and some of those in higher demand require it.[/QUOTE]You most definitely CAN get HIV from oral sex. Just like all of the other STIs that I know of. The odds are different, but definitely possible for transmission to go either way.

For example: A girl I saw a long time ago had a broken tooth that cut and broke the skin on my dick, so she had my blood in her mouth and I had her saliva in my bloodstream. Not very much of either, but that's one way for it to happen. I was happy when my tests came back negative across the board.

The only safe sex is jerking off. And then, only if you're really sure where your hand has been. Everything else is a calculated risk. Not trying to be preachy here. I obviously have mongered plenty, and taken plenty of risks! Just don't want bad info being propagated.

[QUOTE=PlayTiem;5216593]You most definitely CAN get HIV from oral sex. Just like all of the other STIs that I know of. The odds are different, but definitely possible for transmission to go either way.

For example: A girl I saw a long time ago had a broken tooth that cut and broke the skin on my dick, so she had my blood in her mouth and I had her saliva in my bloodstream. Not very much of either, but that's one way for it to happen. I was happy when my tests came back negative across the board.

The only safe sex is jerking off. And then, only if you're really sure where your hand has been. Everything else is a calculated risk. Not trying to be preachy here. I obviously have mongered plenty, and taken plenty of risks! Just don't want bad info being propagated.[/QUOTE]This is 100% wrong. All medical evidence clearly states that HIV is NOT transmitted via saliva. So while meth head saliva is disgusting and can carry any number of germs, HIV is not one of them.

[QUOTE=MigglesMcgee;5216926]This is 100% wrong. All medical evidence clearly states that HIV is NOT transmitted via saliva. So while meth head saliva is disgusting and can carry any number of germs, HIV is not one of them.[/QUOTE]While catching something from a BBBJ is theoretically possible. It is statistically improbable. I spent about 40 hours researching this when I first started mongering. It is for the most part considered safe sex. For the guy anyway.