[QUOTE=Sivad2;3061083]Has anyone had any recent experience at the Dragonfly Spa in Beavercreek?
[URL]https://dayton.craigslist.org/thp/5764383692.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Dragonfly is about the same as Luna, but with a "g".
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[QUOTE=Sivad2;3061083]Has anyone had any recent experience at the Dragonfly Spa in Beavercreek?
[URL]https://dayton.craigslist.org/thp/5764383692.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Dragonfly is about the same as Luna, but with a "g".
We might as well face the fact that L. E. In this area is on the lookout for any spa doing anything that could get them shut down. If you want any "Happiness" you need to go out of town.
Stay safe boys.
[QUOTE=Sivad2;3061083]Has anyone had any recent experience at the Dragonfly Spa in Beavercreek?
[URL]https://dayton.craigslist.org/thp/5764383692.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
Spent a nice hour with Abby Roads today. She is currently working in a very safe area north of Dayton with a well lit parking lot. I had a very nice massage delivered on a professional massage table. I believe she has massage-training and she paid attention to all of the muscles and spots I expected and since I was a good boy she gave me an extra treat. I'd be happy to provide more information about my special treat to SENIOR MEMBERS via PM. I can tell you that it was worth the 30 minute drive. She is listed on the USA Adult Classifieds.
Abby is a wonderful person who like many is in need of more business. AS far as I can tell, she is NOT on drugs and not feeding a habit. She was running specials on the classifieds.
[QUOTE=NonEssential;3059632]My experience is pretty consistent in places on the South side of town. Young girl, good massage, towel on the floor pretty quickly. A little teasing then then the DIY offer on the flip. They definitely want you to go for it and they often come as close as they can while "helping" without actually doing it. It's like a line in the sand that they will come right up to, but not cross. An attractive girl touching you everywhere else after a good massage isn't the worst thing that could happen. It's safe, clean and you know what you'll get. You'll drive several hours to get more and you'll also get 15 or 20 years more on your provider. Or you can roll the dice on a backpage provider.[/QUOTE]Never had DIY experience but def would to avoid the trip to cinnci to see Rachel or Leah. Which place is best in Dayton?
[QUOTE=NdayGuy;3065371]Spent a nice hour with Abby Roads today. She is currently working in a very safe area north of Dayton with a well lit parking lot. I had a very nice massage delivered on a professional massage table. I believe she has massage-training and she paid attention to all of the muscles and spots I expected and since I was a good boy she gave me an extra treat. I'd be happy to provide more information about my special treat to SENIOR MEMBERS via PM. I can tell you that it was worth the 30 minute drive. She is listed on the USA Adult Classifieds.
Abby is a wonderful person who like many is in need of more business. AS far as I can tell, she is NOT on drugs and not feeding a habit. She was running specials on the classifieds.[/QUOTE]If anything she may like her candy. When she was at her trailer some guy met her outside, he went and got her rx for her, not sure what the relationship between them is like.
[QUOTE=SpaSearcher;3065972]If anything she may like her candy. When she was at her trailer some guy met her outside, he went and got her rx for her, not sure what the relationship between them is like. [/QUOTE]If you like a legit massage with a nice TWIST Abby fills the bill. I did verify that she does have formal training in massage but developed her "other" skills less formally. LOL.
I went back to see Abby today and she outdid herself with a beautiful encore with some more surprises than I had yesterday. Her rates are very reasonable and her incall is safe. She is easy to reach via TXT but sometimes takes an hour or two to get back to me.
I plan to see her again next week.
[QUOTE=Rugby999;3065857]Never had DIY experience but def would to avoid the trip to cinnci to see Rachel or Leah. Which place is best in Dayton?[/QUOTE]Apparently that's the new name for the one on 725, almost across from Friday's. We're not going to get everything we want no matter where we go in Dayton. So why not go some place where an attractive, young girl will give you a good massage. Eden (or Jin) fills the bill for me. I've had girls climb up on the table and even walk on my back. They weigh like a hundred pounds. That's a real massage.
I've never had the chance to check out the AMP in Piqua, worth the drive?
[URL]http://dayton.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-young-asian-technician-piqua-asian-tuina-studio-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F/25766476[/URL]
I've never had the chance to check out the AMP in Piqua, worth the drive?
[URL]http://dayton.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-young-asian-technician-piqua-asian-tuina-studio-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F/25766476[/URL]
[QUOTE=Apollinaris;3074905]I've never had the chance to check out the AMP in Piqua, worth the drive?
[URL]http://dayton.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-young-asian-technician-piqua-asian-tuina-studio-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F/25766476[/URL][/QUOTE]I've been there a total of three times and have seen two different women. I'm not a massage expert but I didn't exactly enjoy them. Too hard for my liking. The first and third visit were both by an older lady (maybe late 40's early 50's? Hard to tell with Asians). She goes by (phonetically spelled) See Oh See Oh. The second visit was by 40 something named Amy. If you like a brutally hard massage, she is your ticket. Hands like steel. She is also very funny, flirty and fun. Neither are lookers but neither are turn offs either.
I'd recommend Amy over the other and both will "get the job done" with encouragement and some giggles. Amy has a way of hitting the right nerve. Quickly. Typical 40/60 split for rates, plus tip.
So I'm new to AMPs and I found a place a liked and a lady I liked as well. It seems they now have a changeover that happened with a brand new group of girls. Is that commen? Also the first time there with the new lady she spent the last 15 minutes just kinda of playing with her hair in my face. I wasn't sure how to take it.
[URL]http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/news/two-warren-county-communities-crack-down-on-massag/nsZRQ/?source=ddn_home[/URL]
Her we go again.
[QUOTE=MarineWally;3079862]So I'm new to AMPs and I found a place a liked and a lady I liked as well. It seems they now have a changeover that happened with a brand new group of girls. Is that commen? Also the first time there with the new lady she spent the last 15 minutes just kinda of playing with her hair in my face. I wasn't sure how to take it.[/QUOTE]A changeover is a common practice among most of the AMPs. Some places change over one girl at a time and others like the one that you found change them all at the same time. Most of the girls who work in these establishments are not local girls. After awhile, usually after they have made enough money, they want to go back home. So they leave and management brings in a new girl to replace her. In other cases, management just switches the girls from one location to another, usually several states away. This is to provide the customers with "new meat". It also prevents a guy from getting too hung up on one girl and causing problems for the girl or the establishment. However, in most cases, if a girl really likes a specific guy, she knows well enough in advance that they are going to change that she can make arrangements to keep in touch with him. And sometimes an area will become too hot with LEO or unprofitable and they just close down.
The last 15 minutes of your massage consisted of a face and scalp massage. It is normal and a lot of guys really like it. I know I do as it is soothing and a good way to wind down the massage. It is also a good time to build a good rapport with the masseuse, that is if you can communicate with her. Just an aside, nearly every girl in the AMPs understand and speak passable English. They will give you the impression that they know very little when they first meet you. It is much easier to get out of doing something that you might not want to do if you act like you don't know what the customer wants. After you have become a regular, they tend to let down their guard and you can find out how much they really don't understand.
Been seeing Lilly's ads and wanting to set something up. She used to work at ROYALTY Rain but never saw her there. Then she went solo and was working up on and. Main. Anyone ever visit with her lately? I've read past reviews that she gave amazing massages but legit. Was hoping she was more open to HE. Just curious if anyone had any experience. As always be safe!
RC.
[QUOTE=Redcrue;3082954]Been seeing Lilly's ads and wanting to set something up. She used to work at ROYALTY Rain but never saw her there. Then she went solo and was working up on and. Main. Anyone ever visit with her lately? I've read past reviews that she gave amazing massages but legit. Was hoping she was more open to HE. Just curious if anyone had any experience. As always be safe!
RC.[/QUOTE]The business on and Main was not profitable so she gave it up. The last ad I saw was back in August. She was doing "I come to you" massages but STILL they were legit. I've seen her dozens of times and never scored a HE so I don't think it is available. She is a sweetie. But not inclined to cross the line.
[URL]https://dayton.craigslist.org/thp/5790727098.html[/URL]
Really don't see what all the fuss is about BBBJ was decent at best she just has stamina but kinda of seems like to me she doesn't really want to do FS but would rather just blow you price isn't too bad but too much for the barely above medicore BJ she gives not hating just wasnt what I expected was expecting super head but got super disappointed but her attitude is wonderful so that is what made it worth it and the fact that she swallows.
[QUOTE=Sivad2;3083145][URL]https://dayton.craigslist.org/thp/5790727098.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I see you posted the link; my experience there is no different than any other AMP in Cincinnati Dayton area. One small difference though, about twenty minutes into the massage she whispers an apology that this room is $10 extra because they use hot stones treatment in the room. No big deal, I just take it off the tip. Massages (about 5 in my experience) average 6 or 7 out of 10.
So, I stopped by the new Dragonfly Spa in Beavercreek. Just to get this out of the way, it is a straight up legit massage. There was no accidental touching, didn't even come close to it. Covered the entire time, and when I tried to flirt with the girl, she said nothing. So, there ya go. That said, really good massage. I like when they have the monkey bars and go for a walk on your back.
Stopped by and got a good massage over the weekend. First time the didn't ask me for DIY. Minimal teasing as well. Also didn't get harassed for a tip, which was strange.
Are they still a good AMP? I've been quite a few times and they were deserving a tip everytime. Need to know if I should show up with tip or not.
Called Eden / Jin massage by the DM and the number is disconnected. Kinda sad about this one, been going there for a couple years. Drove by, sign wasnt on. Went to PT by the DM, Light tease, nothing else. No DIY, open doors now with sheets. Dayton scene is officially dead.
[QUOTE=BigReact;3112088]Are they still a good AMP? I've been quite a few times and they were deserving a tip everytime. Need to know if I should show up with tip or not.[/QUOTE]Been there a few times. The first time it was a decent massage and that was it. The second time got a nice HE. Last time I went a couple weeks ago and it was a new batch of girls. I did not expect much because she did not close the door. But after getting a good massage, she even climbed on top of my back and used her weight to pop my back, got another nice HE. She even let my hands roam some. As always YMMV.
Be safe.
I decided to stop by on Friday because I saw that they offer a "Free Table Shower" according to their BP ad. The girl who answered the door took me to a room with a drape, and a door that locked. I figured, table shower, locking doors, girl in an easily removable dress, this might be like the old places Middletown used to offer. So I dropped 60 for the hour. It wasn't. In fact, I am going to strongly urge people to stay away based on my experience. The girl introduced herself as "Ima" and her English is horrible. I asked for the table shower, she said no. Finally after 5 minutes, she took me to a normal shower, and left me alone. Well, sort of alone, because 3 other women kept walking in and out, and even a guy was shown in to take a piss while I was in the shower. I get out during a rare break from the passersby, and wait to be shown back to my room. No one came for like 15 minutes. Finally I go back to my room, 30 minutes passes. Ima decided to work on someone else and come back for me after. I'm asked if I want a soft or hard massage. I choose soft. I then get half a bottle of oil poured on me, and I kid you not, a 1-hand massage, for the next 45 minutes. She would only use her right hand and right forearm. There was no incidental contact. None. Normally you get a little around the sack, or that brush of the fingers along the funhole when they work your butt. Nope. Nothing. So, bad massage, no contact, I'm ready to go. I'm told to flip over. Maybe this is a DIY place, I think. Towel goes over the junk, and she says "you do. " I decline and sit up. She pushes me back down, and again says "you do. " At this point, the remainder of the oil bottle is poured on my junk. I have to play with it, just to get the oil off. I ask if she can "help" or let me see something. Nope. No touching. Finally, she gets sick of standing over me rubbing circles on my stomach and presses her hand down hard on my balls. Painful, but she just kept it there until I removed her hand and told her it hurt. I grabbed the towel and cleaned up as much oil as I could, finally I sat up on the other side of the table so she couldn't push me down again. I grab my clothes before she could (barely), and now I hear her speaking in Chinese. She asks me for a tip, and I decline. Ima decides to block the door. More Chinese is being spoken loudly. A second lady shows up with a kitchen knife. Finally I give her a $20, and try to go past. Three other ladies are now blocking the door asking for more tips. They think Ima should get an $80 tip for a piss-poor massage and essentially ball-punching me. I get out the phone and type in 911, but don't hit send and tell them that they can let me leave, or explain why they kept me there against my will, and threatened me with a knife, to the police. The ladies scatter, and I am out of there.
I have never had that happen to me before. But after that, I will never go back there, and might even begin carrying something to keep myself safe when I go elsewhere in the future.
I've been looking for a legit massage.
Does anyone know if Lilly is still in the biz with providing her massages? I haven't seen her posting any ads for a while.
Thanks,
TG.
[QUOTE=TallGuy54;3115137]I've been looking for a legit massage.
Does anyone know if Lilly is still in the biz with providing her massages? I haven't seen her posting any ads for a while.
Thanks,
TG.[/QUOTE]Nope. She is NOT in the business at this time. Voluntary. Not in any trouble or anything like that.
[QUOTE=TallGuy54;3115137]I've been looking for a legit massage.
Does anyone know if Lilly is still in the biz with providing her massages? I haven't seen her posting any ads for a while.
Thanks,
TG.[/QUOTE]I saw her solo ad this summer on BP, probably in August. I assume it was after she closed the door of her operation on M.
[QUOTE=Kdoc13;3114036]I decided to stop by on Friday because I saw that they offer a "Free Table Shower" according to their BP ad. The girl who answered the door took me to a room with a drape, and a door that locked. I figured, table shower, locking doors, girl in an easily removable dress, this might be like the old places Middletown used to offer. So I dropped 60 for the hour. It wasn't. In fact, I am going to strongly urge people to stay away based on my experience. The girl introduced herself as "Ima" and her English is horrible. I asked for the table shower, she said no. Finally after 5 minutes, she took me to a normal shower, and left me alone. Well, sort of alone, because 3 other women kept walking in and out, and even a guy was shown in to take a piss while I was in the shower. I get out during a rare break from the passersby, and wait to be shown back to my room. No one came for like 15 minutes. Finally I go back to my room, 30 minutes passes. Ima decided to work on someone else and come back for me after. I'm asked if I want a soft or hard massage. I choose soft. I then get half a bottle of oil poured on me, and I kid you not, a 1-hand massage, for the next 45 minutes. She would only use her right hand and right forearm. There was no incidental contact. None. Normally you get a little around the sack, or that brush of the fingers along the funhole when they work your butt. Nope. Nothing. So, bad massage, no contact, I'm ready to go. I'm told to flip over. Maybe this is a DIY place, I think. Towel goes over the junk, and she says "you do. " I decline and sit up. She pushes me back down, and again says "you do. " At this point, the remainder of the oil bottle is poured on my junk. I have to play with it, just to get the oil off. I ask if she can "help" or let me see something. Nope. No touching. Finally, she gets sick of standing over me rubbing circles on my stomach and presses her hand down hard on my balls. Painful, but she just kept it there until I removed her hand and told her it hurt. I grabbed the towel and cleaned up as much oil as I could, finally I sat up on the other side of the table so she couldn't push me down again. I grab my clothes before she could (barely), and now I hear her speaking in Chinese. She asks me for a tip, and I decline. Ima decides to block the door. More Chinese is being spoken loudly. A second lady shows up with a kitchen knife. Finally I give her a $20, and try to go past. Three other ladies are now blocking the door asking for more tips. They think Ima should get an $80 tip for a piss-poor massage and essentially ball-punching me. I get out the phone and type in 911, but don't hit send and tell them that they can let me leave, or explain why they kept me there against my will, and threatened me with a knife, to the police. The ladies scatter, and I am out of there.
I have never had that happen to me before. But after that, I will never go back there, and might even begin carrying something to keep myself safe when I go elsewhere in the future.[/QUOTE]Holy shit, that's crazy man. Thanks for the info. I think I'm done with the scene though. The raid on Eden / Jin is too close to home. I knew Jinxia / Amy for too long.
Well now that the place is closed, is anyone willing to say what they actually got there? I'd only been twice. First time was over a year ago and got offered nothing. No teasing. No diy. The second visit was just offered diy which I declined. Makes me wonder if I could have had some actual fun there if I'd been a regular!
[QUOTE=HotLcndyt;3116417]Well now that the place is closed, is anyone willing to say what they actually got there? I'd only been twice. First time was over a year ago and got offered nothing. No teasing. No diy. The second visit was just offered diy which I declined. Makes me wonder if I could have had some actual fun there if I'd been a regular![/QUOTE]I went several times and was offered diy a couple times but refused. DIY is illegal. The actions of the girls and the business model of the constant 7 day work week leads one to think that maybe some slavery / human trafficking shit was going down.
[QUOTE=HotLcndyt;3116417]Well now that the place is closed, is anyone willing to say what they actually got there? I'd only been twice. First time was over a year ago and got offered nothing. No teasing. No diy. The second visit was just offered diy which I declined. Makes me wonder if I could have had some actual fun there if I'd been a regular![/QUOTE]I was a regular there and the most of got was a DIY once. I went there mainly for the massage. In the beginning I tried to get extra and rebuff each time so I eventually stopped trying. There were some reviews on other sites stating they got a HJ but most reviews were for legit massage. I am bummed that we lost a good massage and will have to find a new one.
[QUOTE=HotLcndyt;3116417]Well now that the place is closed, is anyone willing to say what they actually got there? I'd only been twice. First time was over a year ago and got offered nothing. No teasing. No diy. The second visit was just offered diy which I declined. Makes me wonder if I could have had some actual fun there if I'd been a regular![/QUOTE]My experience was that the first few times, nothing. Then a couple DIY opportunities. Once I got a rub down from Jin, it was a lot more fun, mutual touching and a topless massage. She offered more the last time I went a couole weeks ago, but fear of a raid while I was there prevented that.
With all of the recent raids and shutdowns of local AMPs, one common response from LEO has been said, "we received information through specific websites where members discuss there experiences. " We have no one to blame for the AMP scene to be dead but ourselves. I have experienced things, but I don't go into details because I actually enjoy receiving those extras.
[QUOTE=MassageGoer;3116628]With all of the recent raids and shutdowns of local AMPs, one common response from LEO has been said, "we received information through specific websites where members discuss there experiences. " We have no one to blame for the AMP scene to be dead but ourselves. I have experienced things, but I don't go into details because I actually enjoy receiving those extras.[/QUOTE]Then I guess we have to stop posting EVERYTHING.
[QUOTE=IcabodStud;3116547]I went several times and was offered diy a couple times but refused. DIY is illegal. The actions of the girls and the business model of the constant 7 day work week leads one to think that maybe some slavery / human trafficking shit was going down.[/QUOTE]I seriously doubt that there was any slavery going on and the only human trafficking was transporting the girls from the bus station or airport to the spa. I have a close friend that works at a local totally legit place. It is open 7 days a week, 12 hours or more a day. On a typical day, the girls actually only work four to six hours. The rest of the time is spent doing whatever they want to do. Of course there are busier days and there are slower days. My friend has had enough time off that we have taken trips to the zoo in Cincinnati, gone horse back riding, canoeing, and bicycling this past summer, as well as going to movies, eating out or her serving me lunch about once a week. The girls are making a lot of money, much better than what most of us are. They have no rent or mortgage, no utility bills, usually no car payment or insurance, and no cable bill. Their major expenses are clothes, personal hygiene products, taxes, and their cell phone bill. Most spas pay for staple foods and the girls do pay for extras that they like. My friend has been in the business for two and a half years and has a bank account of $36,000 here in the US and a similar amount in China. And she is free to leave any time she wants, but she doesn't want to because the money is so good, and she also has a good number of friends / loyal customers that she doesn't want to leave just yet. Not exactly slavery or really human trafficking. These are just excuses for LEO to investigate them.
[QUOTE=IcabodStud;3116547]I went several times and was offered diy a couple times but refused. DIY is illegal. The actions of the girls and the business model of the constant 7 day work week leads one to think that maybe some slavery / human trafficking shit was going down.[/QUOTE]I visited fairly often. DIY was offered every time with variable amounts of help. The massage was good and even when I wasn't interested in DIY they were persuasive. If that is illegal, I guess they did sin. It is interesting that they arrested a provider. If there is trafficking going on it's mostly likely some shadowy businessmen running things so why arrest the poor girls whom they suspect maybe here against their will?
[QUOTE=NonEssential;3117356]I visited fairly often. DIY was offered every time with variable amounts of help. The massage was good and even when I wasn't interested in DIY they were persuasive. If that is illegal, I guess they did sin. It is interesting that they arrested a provider. If there is trafficking going on it's mostly likely some shadowy businessmen running things so why arrest the poor girls whom they suspect maybe here against their will?[/QUOTE]You guys weren't paying attention. She worked there the entire time while the other girls came and went. She drove the girls to and from controlled their money bought their supplies at Walmart on kr every night after close. Made all the bank deposits and always talked to the "boss" on the phone.
I have been to Jen massage many time she is a very hard worker and always very professional. It sucks that a good massage place was taken down for inappropriate reasons. The shop is closed so why talk about things that did not even happen there. Talking on here is this going to make things more complicated for her.
Stay safe!
[QUOTE=MassageGoer;3116628]With all of the recent raids and shutdowns of local AMPs, one common response from LEO has been said, "we received information through specific websites where members discuss there experiences. " We have no one to blame for the AMP scene to be dead but ourselves. I have experienced things, but I don't go into details because I actually enjoy receiving those extras.[/QUOTE]I've known some massage therapists who have told me / begged me not to post about them here- her boss reads these and will fire her if he reads that she gives HE's.
And LEO clearly reads this forum all the time and acts on our tips. The MT's are sitting ducks for LEO, their address is on the ad, and this is their real job, there is no place for them to hide.
I'm NOT against talking about BP escort providers though- their addresses aren't listed, and most of them move from place to place and are harder to catch. And it's not like they're going to get "fired". And we need reviews on escort providers for our own safety. AMPs tend to be very safe by comparison.
[QUOTE=StripJunkie;3117320]I seriously doubt that there was any slavery going on and the only human trafficking was transporting the girls from the bus station or airport to the spa. I have a close friend that works at a local totally legit place. It is open 7 days a week, 12 hours or more a day. On a typical day, the girls actually only work four to six hours. The rest of the time is spent doing whatever they want to do. Of course there are busier days and there are slower days. My friend has had enough time off that we have taken trips to the zoo in Cincinnati, gone horse back riding, canoeing, and bicycling this past summer, as well as going to movies, eating out or her serving me lunch about once a week. The girls are making a lot of money, much better than what most of us are. They have no rent or mortgage, no utility bills, usually no car payment or insurance, and no cable bill. Their major expenses are clothes, personal hygiene products, taxes, and their cell phone bill. Most spas pay for staple foods and the girls do pay for extras that they like. My friend has been in the business for two and a half years and has a bank account of $36,000 here in the US and a similar amount in China. And she is free to leave any time she wants, but she doesn't want to because the money is so good, and she also has a good number of friends / loyal customers that she doesn't want to leave just yet. Not exactly slavery or really human trafficking. These are just excuses for LEO to investigate them.[/QUOTE]And you believe this because a girl from China who has every reason in the whole wide world to lie to you told you? The most common reason these girls end up there is because they either 1. Owe alot of money to someone in China and are brought here to pay it back or 2. Wanted to come here but couldn't afford it, were charged a ton of money to get here and work to pay it back, 3. Forced. Whatever fairy tale you want to believe is fine, but that's a fact.