Events in Warren at AMPs and how it may have implications elsewhere
In case you haven't been reading the Ohio / Warren / massage parlor thread. What you need to know is this: Warren had 8 existing AMPs, LEO installed cameras outside the AMPs and obtained the license plate numbers from patrons leaving the AMPs (the cameras were in place for many months) ; these men were sent letters to their homes indicating that they had been seen there and LEO wanted an interview; about 40 men gave sworn statements which were used to get an order shutting down all 8 AMPs last Saturday. Then because the owners of the AMPs requested a hearing on the matter the names and addresses of all 40 men were set forth in open subpoenas (not filed under seal and apparently not even a bare request to attend without subpoena) and then their names and addresses were published in yesterday's local newspaper.
What does this mean for us since we don't have a cluster of local AMPs? As far as I know there is only Lillys which appears to be legitimate.
What we do know is that LEO learns its techniques from other LEO. It appears that high definition cameras are the wave of the future since they are relatively cheap in regard to surveillence manpower. I would expect them to be outside of most AMPs from now on- probably driving even the legitimate businesses out of business, since you don't want that letter coming to your home or place of employment even if you did nothing wrong.
What we also have learned is that giving a voluntary statement came back to bite these guys in the ass. LEO did nothing to protect their identities and I'm sure marriages and jobs are on the line today. A simple I have nothing to say officer would have served them better. A promise of immunity from a prosecution that is not likely to happen anyway because of the impossibility of proof is a very shallow promise indeed. These people did nothing to protect the identities of their star witnesses.
In the short term, be extra vigilent and I for one would stay far away from any AMP, especially if they are located in an area where there are a cluster such as Toledo and Louisville.
Be safe.
Christina kept deal on 5th one free!
I know it's been said to not report on any great ones unless something changed or needs reported. Well we all know paying a provider in advance never comes full circle and nothing's free! Well Christina did keep her deal on the 5th massage is free. I got mine today, it was fantastic! She is a beautifully built girl and her appeal never fades! So sexy and great person. That's the real compliment. Massage was excellent while all along she knew she wasn't getting a dime for it and she still provided as if a tip was paid in advance. That's worthy of reporting in my book.
Under cover as Senior Member! Writes fake reviews!
after checking on my rights with our family lawyers, and being advised on what i can an can't say lol, which is pretty much i hav the right to tell anything he said just no personal info like real name or address which i don't kno anyway, so this is what happen.
i got a text asking to set up an appointmnt. i did, he got here a full 20min early, i did have him wait untill time even tho i had no client here, i only did that because i always txt no early birds to prevent client run ins. the guy did take off his shorts but requesting a sheet only covering his mid section untill he got comfortable, he kept making a point to say he was a senior member here he said it in so many ways that i felt like he was letting me kno if i didn't act right he'd write a bad review like he was using it as a status symbol or something. i didn't feel comfortable with his language and attitude kinda pushy but joking after so i just made sure he got what everyone gets which is a great massage but i talked to him less, once i asked where he is from or what he does for work an he said " c'mon like that matters to you girls" i'm like ok? he did bump my leg with his hand while it was hanging along my table, after turning he made comments about " the others guys are pretty tight lipped over you" anyway long story short, at the end he put his money on the table as always i said i'm licensed so you can pay me, lol he then opened a wallet like thing, it's a picture i. d with a badge, he said he was sorry he had to talk to me like that but it's part of the job that he act like a regular client, i told him regular clients don't act like that, he said well if you did what most the other girls do the guys would treat you like that. i asked do all the girls on backpage do that stuff an he said in the past 45 days he has seen 3 girls that did not do happy endings an he was happy to see that. he mentioned something about craigslist changed an they want backpage to also? not sure about that one but he said he had to see me because alot of people on usasg are talking about me but because they usually talk pretty openly about sexual encounters an they haven't stated anything specific about me he thot it was worth a shot to check me out. he said he got a link to my ad from a senior member, i asked how he got senior member status an he said he wrote fake reviews on girls both in escort an massage because he knew long as he wrote good reviews that no one is going to rebut them, don't kno if i spelled that right but it's the word he used? an then he said i shud be careful because a lot of guys on here lie about some of us legal providers an they lie just to sound like their getting something knowing they are not! but because guys on here exaggerate about the legal girls he thinks the pricks an perverts will visit me an the wrong one may try to rape me an he'd hate to hear something happen to me. i told him its mostly just playful flirting an my clients are all very nice people with families an jobs and reguardless of what people write! they are happy with having a pretty girl rub on them an usually feel guilty enough about just that, i said although these guys talk big when they flirt that if i ever called their bluff an tried to take it further to a happy ending or something that over half would curl up an be scared like a little boy an i don't even try to call a bluff because i'd lose them as clients, because they really are good people who don't want any trouble. anyway my family attorney is sending out a letter to them after she finds his real info an she is putting in the letter that we thank them for the safety advice and because i'm independent an legal we would like any further info forwarded to her, my lawyer. anyway i'm sure he is reading. and thank all you guys for never posting lies about me.
he is 5'10. white between 37-45 an looks it! medium weight with little muscle tone. brown curly short hair. tries to carry a country way about him. anyway although this may worry some clients about seeing me, i hope i don't lose none of you but if i do i'd rather tell you guys so your not coached into doing something with a girl who is a cop or talked into giving some stupid story to a senior member on here an befor you kno it your in trouble over something that never even happen ok guys. my lwyr in the family said these undercover guys are not permitted to put up any cameras in residential private areas unless there is a high crime rate an there is always a town meeting to discus wether they want it or not an the vote thingy is open to the public when in a township like mine. also unless a serious fed case no bugs device or phone tapping is done without a warrant an i'm notified when it happens, an being only a prostitution investigation there would never be a fed case unless **** kids are envolved like in the asian shops. so again be careful who you talk to on here. hope to still see everyone an by the way he has seen other providers an i really wish they would of said something too. be safe guys muah!
I'm lost? Why would I bother to risk losing scared clients?
I'm really sorry my experience don't fit the bill of the usuall an I guess everyone has their own idea of how this thing would of or should of went down. All I know is I was shocked, he was completely different person after massage than before, it wasn't a badge persay it was a wallet with an I. D and didn't look like in the movies exactly, he was not a twnship cop, anyway you can take it how you want everyone, just was trying to figure out how to go about lettin everyone kno without gettin in trouble myself an not losing clients, so I called STIMULUS and my AUNT INLAW. I didn't mean to get anyone yelled at or argueing, I can't say I'm positive I know everything about him because I don't, but he did say he wrote fake reviews, I won't mention one of the specific girls names cause I don't want to scare her clients but I already told her so she knows, if it was some crazy people checking in on me like one member pm me asking cud it be some org out here? I just don't know? But Stim is not lieing, it happend! If it was done in an add way? What can I say? But jn not going to add some details to make it sound believable for you, I'd rather the other providers kno exactly what happen how ever odd so they kno what to look for. He is a Bert Reynolds look alike. So if you think it's retarded or odd? I do too. Sorry my experience didn't sound Better. Tell him that. Cause the names he mentioned on here, the ONES HE CALLED REAL PERVERT SCUM, I looked up an those name are here an are senior member but they talk like its a DREAM? But I read their post, he didn't make up the names. Well I have to work so wether you believe or not? Just becareful anyway ok. Rather be safe than sorry. Ttyl
Christina will always be my gem!
Seen Christina Today mid afternoon, Sexy in a all black dress, never seen this one before. She was extra sweet and we talked about the review board. I did explain to her that no one is calling her a liar that we all just think maybe the guy who showed up is a freak or stalker or just a plain asshole! She was a little sad that she mentioned it at all she said so I told her we would ALL rather her tell us even if she took it as a fake too because you really never know! She was worried it might a worried people and I told her there is not one monger among my inner circle that said he was worried! I told her that when we get a great Gal like her as a provider it takes a more than an asshole to keep us away from her! The location is through 2 doors locked and private, perfect set up with all the extras! She is smoking HOT and sweet personality with a great attitude and no one ever complains. They just don't get any better and I'll come to the board for her any day any time. No one wants ripped off or rushed out. Over 90% of current backpage or craigs list are below average. I know where I get my moneys worth I wish I had more to get in with her more often!
Christina you should cut Marsha or Michelle loose
Call it in the wrong forum I don't care. I know she reads this one I was bored with a tint after hours so I'm looking at the new faces on Backpage and I had to do a double take! Why is no one mentioned that Christina's sister Marsha or now Michelle has multiple ads with different names and same pictures with same phone number then I laughed but kept going and Christina has updated her ad too then I noticed Marsha or who ever she is now Michelle I'm going with damn near copied Christina's entire ad? I opened a second tab then compared the two. I am looking at Marsha's ad and not only does she copy Christina but then when Christina's new one sounds different Marsha slapped another one now copied Christina's newest ad? If she thinks its the ad why Christina gets good reviews so thats what she copies someone should throw the girl a bone to tell her what she needs to copy is Christina's attitude and skill. She can sound as much like her as she wants but until Marsha acts like her its a lose lose situation. I talk to a long time associate the other day from here. He went to see Michelle I guess we are calling her he said she ruin the short massage she gave with talking trash about Christina the whole time! He was shorted on time paid way too much money! He said he had better times with his self! Christina you have enough clients if I was you I'd stop advertisment all together baby. Don't let her use you like that. Her ad says she has nothing but satidfied customers? Is there nothing she won't lie about? Her name her age her looks, her 25 min, hour long massage. I know you are getting tired of it by now.
Sorry to do this to your review :-O
[QUOTE=DwtwnLwyr;1483706]YES! I got her fucking naked! All of it all off! I seen her pink taco I seen the crack of her ass top to bottom! No one go her butt naked but I did! I can't sleep while keep thinking about it I did it! Her tits are so hot out the bra even hotter than hanging out the front! I got to sit next to her on the table and rub her she kissed and I rubbed her back sitting up I licked her neck she taste so fucking good! I was on the verge of begging her to let me do something ANYTHING just let me touch it smell it something and she let me rub it! I couldn't contain my self it ended quick but I DID IT! She is hot steaming HOT I have to fuck this girl its killing me! I know her pussy gets dripping wet! I seen it! You all know who I'm talking about if you have seen her. I can't say a name I'm not permitted to give details or I can't see her no more but I had to write about it so I left out the name. Sorry. I DID IT![/QUOTE]I'm so sorry because I feel like I have no right in a way I guess to write on your review I can tell you had a great time an I hope your provider as well is not offended if she feels I'm taking away from her review, HOWEVER I'm gettin a lot of calls, textes, emails, and PMs asking was this ME, or textin tellin me some guy is sayin this about me? IT'S NOT ME, I really only see the ATF thing that I've been called or the she don't want the kiss an tell details givin out, but that's not only my thing, most good providers, like to keep sessions private an discrete. So no I'm sorry to say, not. Me. Ttyl!
Christina Loves Her Work and it Shows
I finally had the pleasure of scheduling some time today with Christina from BP massage. Her BP ad states that she loves her work and it shows. I can now state how much I appreciate her use of truth in advertising and it is easy to understand how she has achieved ATF status with so many of you.
I felt as though we had instant rapport, my experience offered the right balance of everything that I look for in a good massage provider, and I am still grinning like a monkey as I type these comments albeit a very relaxed monkey! Chances are that I will be dubbing her with the ATF title as well, but I don't want her thinking that I'm that easy so I am not going to surrender the acronym just yet. Looking forward to my next visit.