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[QUOTE=BrooklynFreak;4123360]That she either went to another town to work (she told me she was from virginia or pa) or she got locked up again (I had her tell me about her lesbian lock up love while I was fucking her). Anyways I only saw her once as her rates practically doubled and she tried to accuse me of taking advantage of her bs.[/QUOTE]Damn dude a little more on that lesbian lock up story sounds interesting. How much did she try to charge you I saw her in September out in Jamaica and it was 100 and then 50 for BBFS she just out of nowhere was like I like you I'll knock of 30 so for 120 got BBFS. When she was sucking me off in the basement where she was staying heard mad dudes walking and talking upstairs was living with a black chick who seemed ok with her selling pussy. Was not getting hard cause I was a bit paranoid I was going to get robbed or fucked up but she calmed me down and told me it's nothing just friends of the chick she was living with and helped calm me down and I got rock hard in her mouth. When I was close to cumming after we fucked around for a bit she was riding me on top and I asked can I cum inside you and she just answered yes casually just told me to tell her when I was right about to cum so she can catch it all inside her pussy so it doesn't dirty her bed up. Had a nice time but didn't like the area but when I'm horny I'm stupid I legit walked like 30 min around Jamaica expecting to get robbed took the bus to flushing and I went home. I'd see again I liked her and thought she looked good. Yo PWnyc69 is she user and if so what and also any of you two happen to know why she was locked up. White trash is my favorite so hope her and her friend comes back to inseminate them both. And anyone fuck her friend in the photos she looked good
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[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4123950]There's another website: Envy Jolie's playmates, which also has it's own Twitter. I emailed them asking if the other Twitter account no (at XXXEnvy4 U) was legit.
I did the same thing with Victoria June and other stars when I suspected a scam email address.
Will see what happens.[/QUOTE]I think the Envy Jolie's Playmates site is either fake or an old venture. Pornstar profiles haven't been updated. The tours haven't been updated since last year. Brittany Andrews is doing a national tour right now and her profile has no mention of it.
The twitter account has really random posts and rarely has updates on the girls doing tours and who is available.
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[QUOTE=BoobyHunter;4123995]I think the Envy Jolie's Playmates site is either fake or an old venture. Pornstar profiles haven't been updated. The tours haven't been updated since last year. Brittany Andrews is doing a national tour right now and her profile has no mention of it.
The twitter account has really random posts and rarely has updates on the girls doing tours and who is available.[/QUOTE]So what set off my alarm bells is that she asked for a 50 percent deposit, via either bank wire or a CC transaction with a 4 percent fee.
She sent me a screenshot of her bank info (full account number, routing and wire routing numbers) and told me that that the name of the recipient should be the name of a particular consulting business that I won't mention here.
After scouring the web and looking up multiple pages, it turns out that business is apparently linked to her on LinkedIn, and several other escorting websites like slixa do have this particular protonmail address listed.
Seems like they alternate between this email, the jetsetenvyjolie, and a few Gmail addresses. The phone numbers posted each time though are consistent. They also alternate between saying she's of either Hispanics or European / Norwegian descent.
Additional, they alternate between listing her as being based in Chicago or Phoenix. On her IG she shared a screenshot of a Chicago listing.
I can't find the Eros Page anymore, but on Pamela Peaks website it had said she'd be back in February which is why I initially contacted her. I didn't mention what dates when I did contact and she already known them, which tells me that she's probably legit but just a mess when it comes to trying to contact her. So many different email addresses.
So with all that context, I'm inclined to think she's legit (but a fucking digital mess), but I'm just weirded out anytime a deposit is requested in a unusual way.
Not sure whether or not to proceed.
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[QUOTE=BoobyHunter;4123988]According to AIA, Envy Jolie was visiting NYC from 1/22-1/24.[/QUOTE]Yes, and she did confirm that. Pamela Peaks website has her listed as returning February 11th through the 15th. When I emailed her, I had said that "I heard she'd be in NYC in February", and she responded back confirming those exact dates.
So I'm inclined to believe that it's either a legit account. Or a scammer who really does their homework. LOL.
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[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4124200]So what set off my alarm bells is that she asked for a 50 percent deposit, via either bank wire or a CC transaction with a 4 percent fee.
She sent me a screenshot of her bank info (full account number, routing and wire routing numbers) and told me that that the name of the recipient should be the name of a particular consulting business that I won't mention here.
After scouring the web and looking up multiple pages, it turns out that business is apparently linked to her on LinkedIn, and several other escorting websites like slixa do have this particular protonmail address listed.
Seems like they alternate between this email, the jetsetenvyjolie, and a few Gmail addresses. The phone numbers posted each time though are consistent. They also alternate between saying she's of either Hispanics or European / Norwegian descent.
Additional, they alternate between listing her as being based in Chicago or Phoenix. On her IG she shared a screenshot of a Chicago listing..[/QUOTE]50% That's pretty steep. PP only asks for the booking fee (usually around $200). The first time I used AIA (formerly EMI), I had to do a deposit of $200 as well. After that, they never asked.
Yeah, I think all the different emails, consulting businesses, etc and the Playmates website is maybe an old venture. When you consider how all those girls are national and not just a region, I can understand it becoming a handful. I'm sure her Twitter is the real one, but as you have experienced, she's a digital mess. Probably best to just use PP or AIA, even though there will be a booking fee.
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[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4124237]Yes, and she did confirm that. Pamela Peaks website has her listed as returning February 11th through the 15th. When I emailed her, I had said that "I heard she'd be in NYC in February", and she responded back confirming those exact dates.
So I'm inclined to believe that it's either a legit account. Or a scammer who really does their homework. LOL.[/QUOTE]I requested to do a Zelle transfer as I was uncomfortable with wire transfer or giving cc information, and she gave me the phone number. I called the number about an hour later and what sounded like her picked up and spoke to me in perfect English without any hesitation or issues. Searched the number on Facebook messenger and an account for Envy Jolie came up.
So I proceeded with the deposit. I'm about 90 percent sure it's her, all things considered.
Will confirm once I see her in person.
It's ridiculous the amount of detective work you have to do to confirm that you're not dealing with a fake / scammer.
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[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4124200]So what set off my alarm bells is that she asked for a 50 percent deposit, via either bank wire or a CC transaction with a 4 percent fee.
She sent me a screenshot of her bank info (full account number, routing and wire routing numbers) and told me that that the name of the recipient should be the name of a particular consulting business that I won't mention here.
After scouring the web and looking up multiple pages, it turns out that business is apparently linked to her on LinkedIn, and several other escorting websites like slixa do have this particular protonmail address listed.
Seems like they alternate between this email, the jetsetenvyjolie, and a few Gmail addresses. The phone numbers posted each time though are consistent. They also alternate between saying she's of either Hispanics or European / Norwegian descent.
Additional, they alternate between listing her as being based in Chicago or Phoenix. On her IG she shared a screenshot of a Chicago listing.
I can't find the Eros Page anymore, but on Pamela Peaks website it had said she'd be back in February which is why I initially contacted her. I didn't mention what dates when I did contact and she already known them, which tells me that she's probably legit but just a mess when it comes to trying to contact her. So many different email addresses.
So with all that context, I'm inclined to think she's legit (but a fucking digital mess), but I'm just weirded out anytime a deposit is requested in a unusual way.
Not sure whether or not to proceed.[/QUOTE]Unless you're flying her in yourself I think most everyone will say don't deposit. Unless she's on your absolute see list no reason to risk it.
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[QUOTE=SpaspaHunter;4124700]Unless you're flying her in yourself I think most everyone will say don't deposit. Unless she's on your absolute see list no reason to risk it.[/QUOTE]I agree. Only time I would ever do a deposit is through an agency or if the girl themselves hit me up on Whatsapp / Skype for quick video chat to confirm both our identities.
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[QUOTE=SpaspaHunter;4124700]Unless you're flying her in yourself I think most everyone will say don't deposit. Unless she's on your absolute see list no reason to risk it.[/QUOTE]I've said it multiple times: never give deposits. The money is *always* better in your hands than in anyone else's, especially someone you don't know.
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[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4124696]I requested to do a Zelle transfer as I was uncomfortable with wire transfer or giving cc information, and she gave me the phone number. I called the number about an hour later and what sounded like her picked up and spoke to me in perfect English without any hesitation or issues. Searched the number on Facebook messenger and an account for Envy Jolie came up.
So I proceeded with the deposit. I'm about 90 percent sure it's her, all things considered.
Will confirm once I see her in person.
It's ridiculous the amount of detective work you have to do to confirm that you're not dealing with a fake / scammer.[/QUOTE]Well, I don't know. AIA says that she's currently in Phoenix, then going to Houston, and then back home to Chicago. She's not in NYC any more.
And if you did end up giving your money to a scammer, well, now you know why I never give deposits. LOL.
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[QUOTE=MrFrench;4125060]Well, I don't know. AIA says that she's currently in Phoenix, then going to Houston, and then back home to Chicago. She's not in NYC any more.
And if you did end up giving your money to a scammer, well, now you know why I never give deposits. LOL.[/QUOTE]Pamela Peaks has her listed as coming back February 11th.
If I did give my money to a scammer, it was a damn good one to manage to sound like her on the phone. Well played.
Also, one of the things I've noticed about scammers is that they NEVER want to use normal e-payment methods like Zelle, PayPal, Venmo. They ask for gift cards and always have a million excuses as to why their PayPal or whatever is frozen (because they don't have one or they don't want to risk being reported and having their accounts and transactions revoked).
So when she actually cooperated on Zelle with me that was a positive indicator that she was legit.
Unfortunately a lot of stars expect a deposit, and you have to make the choice of either playing by their rules or looking elsewhere.
Persia Monir wanted a deposit first time I contacted her.
Ashley Anderson and many of the younger stars want deposits.
I guess I've just been lucky so far. Only time I've turned out regretting to pay a deposit was when I got scammed by a fake Victoria June account, and I learned my lesson about cross checking then.
Will see how this turns out and will let you know.
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[QUOTE=MrFrench;4125060]Well, I don't know. AIA says that she's currently in Phoenix, then going to Houston, and then back home to Chicago. She's not in NYC any more.
And if you did end up giving your money to a scammer, well, now you know why I never give deposits. LOL.[/QUOTE]Also, I just looked at the AIA switter page, and she's listed as being in NYC from the 26th through the 28th. Which lines up because on her Twitter and in her emails to me she told me that her flight had been rescheduled.
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[QUOTE=MrFrench;4116685]I think this thread started with talking about Ashley Taylor. Hard to tell.
Anyway, it's always good to get tested regardless of who you see or what you do with them. There are things other than HIV that you can catch by sexual activity (with or without condoms) and early diagnosis is key to getting treatment. For most of the things you can catch via sex, it's easier for the woman to contract something than the guy for a lot of reasons. Most problems can be avoided by common sense stuff: keep clean (hygiene), don't drink or do drugs. Keeping clean will kill a lot of stuff. A quick shower afterward or within a short window of time will help. Avoiding drugs and alcohol keeps your immune system functioning properly. The use of drugs or alcohol can lower your resistance to a lot of diseases, not just sexually transmittable ones.
As for Ashley, and closing off the BBFS. From what I can tell, the post here saying that she didn't allow BBFS was almost certainly made by her "assistant" who has *always* freaked out when asked if Ashley did BBFS and she usually just disconnected the call. I seriously doubt that it was Ashely herself who posted. She's waaay too busy to be watching all the boards and that's why she has an assistant in the first place. The assistant doesn't really want to know what Ashley is doing in these private sessions and bareback is certainly not something the assistant wants to hear about. I don't want to say openly what I know about her assistant but suffice it to say the assistant really doesn't want to know what goes on behind closed doors.
I guess the only way to know for sure is for someone to TOFTT and see if Ashely still allows bareback.[/QUOTE]Ashley doesn't have anything. I've gotten checked and I'm clean.
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[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4125169]Also, I just looked at the AIA switter page, and she's listed as being in NYC from the 26th through the 28th. Which lines up because on her Twitter and in her emails to me she told me that her flight had been rescheduled.[/QUOTE]I've learned not to believe anything on switter. Since I have no interest in Envy. I haven't contacted AIA direct to find out. I was just going by their web page.
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Samantha Moore
Anybody know if Samantha Moore does BBFS?
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[QUOTE=Draves;4126784]Anybody know if Samantha Moore does BBFS?[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure she was just discussed a few days ago and the answer was yes. I think the folks on here mentioned no to BBgreek or greek in general, but I remember old TER reports of her being a greek queen so I imagine BBgreek is fine as well. I've never seen her though, but I would say BBFS is very likely as I've seen it reported multiple times on many different forums over the years.
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[QUOTE=Draves;4126784]Anybody know if Samantha Moore does BBFS?[/QUOTE]Heard that she is bb friendly but have never seen her myself.
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Wrong Samantha
[QUOTE=DrewBe;4127021]I'm pretty sure she was just discussed a few days ago and the answer was yes. I think the folks on here mentioned no to BBgreek or greek in general, but I remember old TER reports of her being a greek queen so I imagine BBgreek is fine as well. I've never seen her though, but I would say BBFS is very likely as I've seen it reported multiple times on many different forums over the years.[/QUOTE]We discussed about Samantha Sweet not Samantha Moore the Russian / Ukrainian. Let me bring my contribution on the later.
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[QUOTE=Draves;4126784]Anybody know if Samantha Moore does BBFS?[/QUOTE]Some followed hobbyists told me that she is bareback friendly back in the days. Last year I did go to screening then this happened on the eve of our appointment. She asked if I had any concerns or questions before the meeting. I sized on it and asked about BBFS. She declined. She gave me the type of lecture that my grandmother and mom used to give me. It turned me off and to piss her off I canceled then minutes before our date. There is one thing to say in to a service and another to say it in a mean way.
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[QUOTE=Masoko23;4127411]We discussed about Samantha Sweet not Samantha Moore the Russian / Ukrainian. Let me bring my contribution on the later.[/QUOTE]You're right, I got confused about who had been discussed as I thought they were one in the same (hence my confusion about greek). Now that I've checked out their sites and pics I'm quite sure I remember reports of Samantha Moore offering BBgreek and being on a similar level to Gina Rollins.
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[QUOTE=Masoko23;4127559]Some followed hobbyists told me that she is bareback friendly back in the days. Last year I did go to screening then this happened on the eve of our appointment. She asked if I had any concerns or questions before the meeting. I sized on it and asked about BBFS. She declined. She gave me the type of lecture that my grandmother and mom used to give me. It turned me off and to piss her off I canceled then minutes before our date. There is one thing to say in to a service and another to say it in a mean way.[/QUOTE]Damn. That sucks for both of you.
For real I wish that girls would outright be truthful if they can or can't do something. That's why I like PD because at least you can filter that out at least on the BBBJ part unless the girl is lying.
I know a few that lie about it is why it's good to cross reference them.
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Adreena Winters.
Adreena Winters is in NY / NJ for a weeks. Has anyone been with her? Does she go sans cap outside her vids?
[URL]https://twitter.com/adreena_winters?lang=en[/URL]
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Emma Grace
[QUOTE=Kinosellis;4075693]White girl Emma Grace at lear talent is BBFS friendly. She's a spinner / small As. GFE overall. You'll like her.[/QUOTE]I saw Emma about a week ago. I was actually hoping she would just let bb happen without me asking because for some reason I just didn't feel like asking. Don't know why. She is cute. I don't agree that she has a small ass. I think its just right for her body and its a handlefull and jiggles just right. I ate it out like there was no tomm. She mentioned the cover and I just went for it. For some reason I was waiting or hoping for her to just hop on without it but I guess she has to be asked. I go through these soft moments sometimes LOL. Maybe next time I will enforce it. She was really nice, maybe too nice. Maybe that did it LOL.
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[QUOTE=PWnyc69;4131634]Adreena Winters is in NY / NJ for a weeks. Has anyone been with her? Does she go sans cap outside her vids?
[URL]https://twitter.com/adreena_winters?lang=en[/URL][/QUOTE]Where does it say she's' in NY / NJ?
One of her tweet seems to imply she does unless it's staged.
As far as I can tell she's still in the UK and in Feb she's London.
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LOL at flying out pornstars.
Jesus some of you dudes need to get a grip.
Stop being a doormat.
"LOL at giving deposits".
Go be a walking talking atm machine.
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[QUOTE=PWnyc69;4131634]Adreena Winters is in NY / NJ for a weeks. Has anyone been with her? Does she go sans cap outside her vids?
[URL]https://twitter.com/adreena_winters?lang=en[/URL][/QUOTE]I found her profile on adultwork:
[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1327705&SE=1[/URL]
It does not indicate that she does unprotected sex which is pretty easy (and common) to do on adultwork. She lists "oral without" as being done "at discretion". Here's what she says about "at discretion" services:
[QUOTE]I often get asked for a definite answer on those services I choose to list "at my discretion", such as A-levels and DFK. These are listed this way as there are many variables that will affect whether I am able to offer such services or not. I will be totally honest with you: this can simply be down to your personal hygiene. If your breath isn't fresh the last thing I want is to do DFK you. I provide mouthwash for my incalls so there is really no excuse. With regards to A-levels, this can be affected by things like food poisoning and general indisposition, in which case I would not be offering the service on that given day. Its always good to let me know your expectations for our meeting, to avoid disappointment if I'm unable to offer what you're specifically looking for.[/QUOTE]She also talks about "extreme services":
[QUOTE]I am aware many of you have seen some of the more extreme movies I have done. I very much enjoyed doing these movies, but they are always filmed with guys I know well and are experienced. I cannot guarantee such extreme services with first-time clients. I would instead need to establish trust and respect over a number of meets. There are, however, a small number of services I do NOT offer at all, these are fisting, ATM, squirting and puking.[/QUOTE]So she never explicitly says she doesn't do bareback but I kind of suspect, based on everything else on her profile, that it's unlikely if she only does BBBJ "at discretion".
There's no indication on her profile that she's touring the USA And lists her as being available in the UK for bookings over the next 14 days.
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[QUOTE=MrFrench;4132247]I found her profile on adultwork:
[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1327705&SE=1[/URL]
It does not indicate that she does unprotected sex which is pretty easy (and common) to do on adultwork. She lists "oral without" as being done "at discretion". Here's what she says about "at discretion" services:
She also talks about "extreme services":
So she never explicitly says she doesn't do bareback but I kind of suspect, based on everything else on her profile, that it's unlikely if she only does BBBJ "at discretion".
There's no indication on her profile that she's touring the USA And lists her as being available in the UK for bookings over the next 14 days.[/QUOTE]She doesn't. I'm sure there are those that probably are able to. But not to a random. If you're willing to take a chance and do multi visits then take your best shot.
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[QUOTE=MrFrench;4132247]I found her profile on adultwork:
[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1327705&SE=1[/URL]
It does not indicate that she does unprotected sex which is pretty easy (and common) to do on adultwork. She lists "oral without" as being done "at discretion". Here's what she says about "at discretion" services:
She also talks about "extreme services":
So she never explicitly says she doesn't do bareback but I kind of suspect, based on everything else on her profile, that it's unlikely if she only does BBBJ "at discretion".
There's no indication on her profile that she's touring the USA And lists her as being available in the UK for bookings over the next 14 days.[/QUOTE]Her twitter pretty much says to find her on Adultworks. I didn't want to link her so didn't post it in my reply.
But yeah, her tweets currently indicate she's in UK because she's running a coffee date raffle and her touring is still set over there for Feb / London.
Here's the tweet in theory that she bares.
[URL]https://twitter.com/adreena_winters/status/1090520509845000192[/URL]
Finding that's so much easier overseas it's not even funny.
And if you haven't been in the know, there's a ton of anti-SW shit happening.
From the Marriott profiling them to reports of them getting deported for dressing up in high heels and having condoms in their carry-ons.
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[QUOTE=SpaspaHunter;4132088]Where does it say she's' in NY / NJ?
One of her tweet seems to imply she does unless it's staged.
As far as I can tell she's still in the UK and in Feb she's London.[/QUOTE]She will be in the NYC area in the coming weeks. I read some reviews on her on another forum and I believe she advertises on there as well. Reviews were positive, but I have no idea if she does BBFS. I checked out her porn videos and honestly, I wouldn't bb her. She does tons of creampie gangbang videos and I wouldn't risk bb with her.
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Adreena Winters
Adreena has a few ads on another board I'm not sure is allowed to mention here but includes the initials for "tits" "and" "ass" on the new york and new jersey sides. That's where I got she was coming. She been on there for a few years and has visited before.
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[QUOTE=PWnyc69;4132526]Adreena has a few ads on another board I'm not sure is allowed to mention here but includes the initials for "tits" "and" "ass" on the new york and new jersey sides. That's where I got she was coming. She been on there for a few years and has visited before.[/QUOTE]I asked if she offered full PSE sessions like her films and she said FS was covered. But as we all know. Who knows?
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[QUOTE=DrewBe;4132471]She will be in the NYC area in the coming weeks. I read some reviews on her on another forum and I believe she advertises on there as well. Reviews were positive, but I have no idea if she does BBFS. I checked out her porn videos and honestly, I wouldn't bb her. She does tons of creampie gangbang videos and I wouldn't risk bb with her.[/QUOTE]Ah Ok I see it now.
Tempted to get some of that UK pussy LOL.
I don't think it matters if she creampie gangbangs or not. As long as it's not dribbling out fresh. LOL.
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[QUOTE=SpaspaHunter;4133194]Ah Ok I see it now.
Tempted to get some of that UK pussy LOL.
I don't think it matters if she creampie gangbangs or not. As long as it's not dribbling out fresh. LOL.[/QUOTE]I am going to keep tab on her in case she comes by New York. I love bareback especially if creampie involved. Can't wait.
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So Ashley is in Boston this week and I am considering a repeat but am scared about the possibility of a cover being introduced. Was hoping someone has fresh info if she is requiring it or not. PM's are fine since it seems she or her camp reads the forum. Thanks in advance.
Jack.
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[QUOTE=Jack617;4134986]So Ashley is in Boston this week and I am considering a repeat but am scared about the possibility of a cover being introduced. Was hoping someone has fresh info if she is requiring it or not. PM's are fine since it seems she or her camp reads the forum. Thanks in advance.
Jack.[/QUOTE]You already got the first date in so she knows you're legit. If you have her direct contact and you know it's not an assistant just ask her if she'll do it for you.
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TaliaNY
Any recent info for Talia? I am waiting for my schedule to sync with hers and meet.
Just hoping someone had some recent experience but if not I'll inform after I see.
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Adreena Winters.
I emailed her asking about her services. She stated she needs 2 independent references and that rates were 450/ HR with 100 extra for Greek. I asked her if anything was off limits and that I was recently tested and that I have my papers. She reply's back with 2000/ HR for BBFS lmao.
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[QUOTE=Danginfantry;4137936]I emailed her asking about her services. She stated she needs 2 independent references and that rates were 450/ HR with 100 extra for Greek. I asked her if anything was off limits and that I was recently tested and that I have my papers. She reply's back with 2000/ HR for BBFS lmao.[/QUOTE]LOL. The cum **** will take creampies from random strangers in euro gangbang scenes and AO clubs, but wants 2 k from a paying client.
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[QUOTE=Danginfantry;4137936]I emailed her asking about her services. She stated she needs 2 independent references and that rates were 450/ HR with 100 extra for Greek. I asked her if anything was off limits and that I was recently tested and that I have my papers. She reply's back with 2000/ HR for BBFS lmao.[/QUOTE]LOL that's crazy but not surprising. For that I may as well hit up Joseline Kelly as she's in town.
Still it's good to know. At least I know if I'm going to see her I'll give her my lower rate references so she doesn't try to higher budget me if I opt for that.
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[QUOTE=Danginfantry;4137936]I emailed her asking about her services. She stated she needs 2 independent references and that rates were 450/ HR with 100 extra for Greek. I asked her if anything was off limits and that I was recently tested and that I have my papers. She reply's back with 2000/ HR for BBFS lmao.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Yeah like all those guys in her gangbang vids paid her 2000 apiece, right? What an idiot. Girls like her deserve to completely strike out when they visit here. Wish NYC guys would wise up.