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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2023343]I did on our first date as she was on her period. But not since. Can't get it in. LOL. So trying some new stuff out. She is really into bondage.[/QUOTE]You animal!
One day I'll get my senses straight and start digging black beauties.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2022612]One sure fire way to get an all mouth BJ.[/QUOTE]Love it. I've done this to most of the girls I dated. Though I usually lack the proper tools and end up using either my tie or belt. Sure way to fuck a mouth the way you want it.
I got to get out there soon, the weather is starting to get warm up here in the Northeast.
[URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2734986-foxyroxxxi-Brea-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Wants $600 per date.
[URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2885282-Sun516-GardenGrove-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Wants $500 per date.
The first one lists her ethnicity as "Latino" - the second one is just built like a boy.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2041994][URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2734986-foxyroxxxi-Brea-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Wants $600 per date.
[URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2885282-Sun516-GardenGrove-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Wants $500 per date.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zauriel;2042572]The first one lists her ethnicity as "Latino" - the second one is just built like a boy.[/QUOTE]Just a sample of a couple time wasters to avoid. So if anyone wonders why a lot of these girls don't reply to their offers, here are 2 good examples.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2041994][URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2734986-foxyroxxxi-Brea-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Wants $600 per date.
[URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2885282-Sun516-GardenGrove-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Wants $500 per date.[/QUOTE]So is it safe to say she created this site?
[URL]http://foxyroxxxi.escortbook.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=ClassAct;2050440]So is it safe to say she created this site?
[URL]http://foxyroxxxi.escortbook.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks real to me. Just overpriced. If a girl is a 10 in looks I can understand them asking 3 bills, Not that I am going to ever pay that. But it's understandable. This is just a joke. But these girls would rather get lucky once in a while than get out there and work, which tells you they really don't want to be doing this in the first place.
This recent pornstar ex bodybuilder that looks identical to the girl on SD4 me a while ago, had since deleted her profile and went pro, same big clit, built arms, nose everything to the tee. I can't imagine it not being her but maybe someone else. Talia as she went by on SD4 me wanted at least 5 dates a month for 1.5 each visit and was from texas. Don't know if this girl is her but recently Ericka Liu hit me up saying she would see me after I sent her some detalis a WHILE back, major lag and by now I am not mongering and am in a stabilized relationship. Was looking for experience back then and just getting used to the energy females had but pros all have such a business ethic, poor or not, that felt too contrived to be a meaningful thing. Is what it is. The pros that I would see are always way out of my range price wise as I got to keep on the organic track, and use my charms and youth to not have to pay a dime, however when balancing it out between travel time, dinner dates etc. Albeit almost just as expenise you build a lasting meaningful thing w your significant one (s? (for some)).
[QUOTE=LooknForeU;1807510]Sound advice and well put. I am relatively new to the domestic scene, I see that the p4p game via SB SD platform can to be realized by us "common men".
My friend is a hardworking stiff like me 9-5. He started fowarding emails to me that he was getting from young ladies in need of whatever, any little bit helps when home is hell. Sweet girls too.
Although I am not a rich man, as is most often portrayed in the media as bonafied SD; there is a spot for guys like me with a young lady tht will appreciate my donation for quality time.[/QUOTE]Very well said and I am just getting into this as well and have been talking to some cool chicks via email and they sound affordable. I like the idea of getting more of a GFE while still not paying $400 or something like that.of course some of the women want that much, but some are without our less bloated budgets.
[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;2067436]Very well said and I am just getting into this as well and have been talking to some cool chicks via email and they sound affordable. I like the idea of getting more of a GFE while still not paying $400 or something like that.of course some of the women want that much, but some are without our less bloated budgets.[/QUOTE]With a true SB and not some pretend pro, you'll be paying less and getting more time. Marathon sessions or overnights for $ with someone that appreciates that $ and your company.
The numbers are always in your favor, so best of luck to you.
[QUOTE=Dolato;2067454]With a true SB and not some pretend pro, you'll be paying less and getting more time. Marathon sessions or overnights for $ with someone that appreciates that $ and your company.
The numbers are always in your favor, so best of luck to you.[/QUOTE]Yes it's true being a Sugar Daddy is within the reach of the "common man", I still think it's a good idea to at least give the image that you're fairly well-off. Sometimes the richer you look, the less you have to pay. Okay forget the GPS and Pros. They want ridiculous allowances no matter how you look or what you do. But there's a large segment of SBs (who BTW are still very attractive) who just want to be treated out by a true gentleman and maybe get some help with a few bills or a little spoiling. After all, most of them are tired of their always-broke 20-something boyfriends that never paid for a full meal outside the first date.
So even if you're a "common man", remember your job is still give the allusion that you're a man of means, financial stability, and class. Remember 95% of those girls will never have a "millionaire" sugar daddy who drop 5 k-10 a month on a SB. The rest must settle for far less. But it's all in the presentation. You can give a girl $ and make her feel like your her "white night" and she feels like your baby or you can give her the same $ and make her feel like a cheap prostitute and you're just blue collar creeper spending his Friday paycheck on a cheap thrill.
All about presentation and your attitude. Here are a few tips to make even the "common man" look like a man of means:
- Get yourself a German car. It doesn't even have to be new. There are quite a few used car lots that specialize in used luxury cars. The vast majority of girls couldn't tell the difference between a 2005 Mercedes or a 2012. Just make sure it has a modern dashboard (that can play iPod music) and the paint job and headlights in good condition. Having a luxury car will make the SB feel like she's with someone who has money and she can brag to her friends about it.
- Even if you have a poor fashion sense, get some nice sunglasses, watch, name-brand wallet, or some quality accessory. You better believe girls notice little things like this. And for goodness sakes, make sure you wear clean shoes! Again even if you have poor fashion taste, you want to look more clean cut than her grungy 20-something boyfriends.
- Save the roach motels for the 4th & 5th dates after you've established yourself as a legit SD. Yes with a Non-Pro off CL any 4-walled enclosure will do for the p4 p transaction, but your FC locations with your SB at least initially should give her comfort and make it feel like a secret rendezvous, not a trip to a crackhead no-tell or truck stop for debasement. Once you've gained her comfort and if she's totally cool with going cheap on the hotels to reduce your cost, then maybe it's okay but I would still avoid it if possible.
- Don't just always give cash. Add a gift certificate or gift when you can. It does three things. It reminds her of you long after your hookup. It makes the arrangement feel less transactional. And it gives something for her to brag about to her friends.
- Yes, she will brag to her friends. She won't talk about how she had your cock in her ass and then took a facial, licking up every last teaspoon of your jizz. No she won't tell her friends that. She will tell them how she has a rich sugar daddy who gives her money and gifts, just for giving him companionship and talking. So giving her little things that she can show off to her friends will pay off down the line.
- Don't over exaggerate. If you're middle-management pulling in 50-60 k, don't try to pretend to be a multi-millionaire. Go for the small business owner angle. It gives you prestige, but explains some of your modest living and she won't be constantly asking to see your big mansion or fly to Paris every weekend.
Personally I think there is a difference between being a sugar daddy looking for a sugar baby, and just being a regular guy looking for cheap Non-Pro / UTR bootycall. There's nothing wrong with the latter, but there is a difference. Yes some girls are just looking for no-strings attached pvp for a few $, but if you're seeking more of a personable connection and to make a real impression, then you have to up your game. IMO, if you do this you'll be able to reach a wider variety of girls. Girls you thought were unattainable will be texting / flirting with you daily, eager for the next sex-romp. And these girls won't just sex the next guy who offers $+1 because you'll be giving them something a little more. You'll be giving them the "taste of the finer things in life" which almost every damn SB profile says they want.
Remember the "finer things" is relative. I once bought a girl a $20 meal with full appetizers and desert and she was completely over the moon like I just bought her a $200 meal. You better believe she showed her full appreciation later that evening. Ironically if I just gave her $200, she probably would have spent it on something stupid she normally does and wouldn't experience anything new except getting fucked by an old guy. But the $20 meal gave her a whole new experience she wouldn't have experienced otherwise, and makes fucking an older guy more appealing when she thinks back on it. Also, the less likely she'll feel dirty and flake on you in the future.
I know this is a long post, but I thought it was important to pass this on. Being a "SD" is more attainable than ever before but if you want success then you still have to present yourself like a SD even if you have modest means. I still think we're in the Golden Era of the Sugar Bowl even if there are a lot of GPSs, but I have a feeling it can all get fucked up if too many supposed "SD"s treat the girls like BP prostitutes. All it will take is a few Dateline or Oprah specials saying how a ton of dirty old men are preying upon college girls, sexing innocent little Alice and turning her into a teenage prostitute. Even if SD / SB arrangements aren't illegal, it would make the public more aware of old men with younger women and society would drive these type of arrangements further underground. That's my fear, so it's why I like to help my newer brethren play the Sugar Bowl the right way, so we can play longer.
[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;2067594]Yes it's true being a Sugar Daddy is within the reach of the "common man", I still think it's a good idea to at least give the image that you're fairly well-off. Sometimes the richer you look, the less you have to pay. Okay forget the GPS and Pros. They want ridiculous allowances no matter how you look or what you do. But there's a large segment of SBs (who BTW are still very attractive) who just want to be treated out by a true gentleman and maybe get some help with a few bills or a little spoiling. After all, most of them are tired of their always-broke 20-something boyfriends that never paid for a full meal outside the first date.
So even if you're a "common man", remember your job is still give the allusion that you're a man of means, financial stability, and class. Remember 95% of those girls will never have a "millionaire" sugar daddy who drop 5 k-10 a month on a SB. The rest must settle for far less. But it's all in the presentation. You can give a girl $ and make her feel like your her "white night" and she feels like your baby or you can give her the same $ and make her feel like a cheap prostitute and you're just blue collar creeper spending his Friday paycheck on a cheap thrill.
All about presentation and your attitude. Here are a few tips to make even the "common man" look like a man of means:
- Get yourself a German car. It doesn't even have to be new. There are quite a few used car lots that specialize in used luxury cars. The vast majority of girls couldn't tell the difference between a 2005 Mercedes or a 2012. Just make sure it has a modern dashboard (that can play iPod music) and the paint job and headlights in good condition. Having a luxury car will make the SB feel like she's with someone who has money and she can brag to her friends about it.
- Even if you have a poor fashion sense, get some nice sunglasses, watch, name-brand wallet, or some quality accessory. You better believe girls notice little things like this. And for goodness sakes, make sure you wear clean shoes! Again even if you have poor fashion taste, you want to look more clean cut than her grungy 20-something boyfriends.
- Save the roach motels for the 4th & 5th dates after you've established yourself as a legit SD. Yes with a Non-Pro off CL any 4-walled enclosure will do for the p4 p transaction, but your FC locations with your SB at least initially should give her comfort and make it feel like a secret rendezvous, not a trip to a crackhead no-tell or truck stop for debasement. Once you've gained her comfort and if she's totally cool with going cheap on the hotels to reduce your cost, then maybe it's okay but I would still avoid it if possible.
- Don't just always give cash. Add a gift certificate or gift when you can. It does three things. It reminds her of you long after your hookup. It makes the arrangement feel less transactional. And it gives something for her to brag about to her friends.
- Yes, she will brag to her friends. She won't talk about how she had your cock in her ass and then took a facial, licking up every last teaspoon of your jizz. No she won't tell her friends that. She will tell them how she has a rich sugar daddy who gives her money and gifts, just for giving him companionship and talking. So giving her little things that she can show off to her friends will pay off down the line.
- Don't over exaggerate. If you're middle-management pulling in 50-60 k, don't try to pretend to be a multi-millionaire. Go for the small business owner angle. It gives you prestige, but explains some of your modest living and she won't be constantly asking to see your big mansion or fly to Paris every weekend.
Personally I think there is a difference between being a sugar daddy looking for a sugar baby, and just being a regular guy looking for cheap Non-Pro / UTR bootycall. There's nothing wrong with the latter, but there is a difference. Yes some girls are just looking for no-strings attached pvp for a few $, but if you're seeking more of a personable connection and to make a real impression, then you have to up your game. IMO, if you do this you'll be able to reach a wider variety of girls. Girls you thought were unattainable will be texting / flirting with you daily, eager for the next sex-romp. And these girls won't just sex the next guy who offers $+1 because you'll be giving them something a little more. You'll be giving them the "taste of the finer things in life" which almost every damn SB profile says they want.
Remember the "finer things" is relative. I once bought a girl a $20 meal with full appetizers and desert and she was completely over the moon like I just bought her a $200 meal. You better believe she showed her full appreciation later that evening. Ironically if I just gave her $200, she probably would have spent it on something stupid she normally does and wouldn't experience anything new except getting fucked by an old guy. But the $20 meal gave her a whole new experience she wouldn't have experienced otherwise, and makes fucking an older guy more appealing when she thinks back on it. Also, the less likely she'll feel dirty and flake on you in the future.
I know this is a long post, but I thought it was important to pass this on. Being a "SD" is more attainable than ever before but if you want success then you still have to present yourself like a SD even if you have modest means. I still think we're in the Golden Era of the Sugar Bowl even if there are a lot of GPSs, but I have a feeling it can all get fucked up if too many supposed "SD"s treat the girls like BP prostitutes. All it will take is a few Dateline or Oprah specials saying how a ton of dirty old men are preying upon college girls, sexing innocent little Alice and turning her into a teenage prostitute. Even if SD / SB arrangements aren't illegal, it would make the public more aware of old men with younger women and society would drive these type of arrangements further underground. That's my fear, so it's why I like to help my newer brethren play the Sugar Bowl the right way, so we can play longer.[/QUOTE]Great post! Woke up and read this and already have a smile. Not only is it diabolical, but it's educational as well. I think the USA Has close to a 29% under 25 year old unemployment rate. With 1/3 of Americans unemployed and unemployable. And most of those guys are living at home, smoking pot, don't have a car, don't have a job, don't have much social skill past their online gaming, and don't have any motivation to change. That means there are more young girls out there for guys with a little ambition, a little means, and some knowledge. Don't be that other guy.
I don't know any prostitutes, but I know a lot of women that like to have money.
[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;2067594]Yes it's true being a Sugar Daddy is within the reach of the "common man", I still think it's a good idea to at least give the image that you're fairly well-off. Sometimes the richer you look, the less you have to pay. Okay forget the GPS and Pros. They want ridiculous allowances no matter how you look or what you do. But there's a large segment of SBs (who BTW are still very attractive) who just want to be treated out by a true gentleman and maybe get some help with a few bills or a little spoiling. After all, most of them are tired of their always-broke 20-something boyfriends that never paid for a full meal outside the first date.
[/QUOTE]I hope the others that frequent the Richmond SD thread see your post. Lots of good advice and thanks for taking the time to share what you've learned.
I agree that it's important to present the part when going to a M&G. That doesn't mean talk big and act flashy, but also act like a grown ass man and not some man-child that the girls are used to with guys their age. You don't have to spend big $ at a M&G, but ordering / recommending a good drink or even opening the door can be a big difference from what she's used to.
I don't consider myself to have lived in luxury or priviledge, but have learned first hand how the "finer things" really are relative. There may be the POTs who already have a taste for the luxuries in life and need a SD to finance their ways, but there are also plenty of girls who have lived a much more modest life and each new experience is an eye opening one that can show her the value you can add to her life besides the $/ visit.
[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;2067594]- Get yourself a German car. It doesn't even have to be new. There are quite a few used car lots that specialize in used luxury cars. The vast majority of girls couldn't tell the difference between a 2005 Mercedes or a 2012. Just make sure it has a modern dashboard (that can play iPod music) and the paint job and headlights in good condition. Having a luxury car will make the SB feel like she's with someone who has money and she can brag to her friends about it.[/QUOTE]I really had to laugh when I read this. When I first started down the SD road it was in a new, somewhat modest truck that I paid about 30 k for. And a lot of young girls love trucks, but I switched to a german car at about half the price just out of happenstance and the comments about my car increased dramatically.
[QUOTE=Dolato;2068323]I agree that it's important to present the part when going to a M&G. That doesn't mean talk big and act flashy, but also act like a grown ass man and not some man-child that the girls are used to with guys their age. You don't have to spend big $ at a M&G, but ordering / recommending a good drink or even opening the door can be a big difference from what she's used to.
I don't consider myself to have lived in luxury or priviledge, but have learned first hand how the "finer things" really are relative. There may be the POTs who already have a taste for the luxuries in life and need a SD to finance their ways, but there are also plenty of girls who have lived a much more modest life and each new experience is an eye opening one that can show her the value you can add to her life besides the $/ visit.[/QUOTE]I'll take women I know to get a foot massage. Cost range from .15 to a full body for .30 plus tip. These places are all over and you'd be surprised that most NPs have never even had a massage. Yeah, totally crazy. IMO the best way to introduce someone to the good life. I just took someone here last week. [URL]http://www.yelp.com/biz/win-win-spa-san-gabriel[/URL].
Win Win. Got to love the name. About 6-7 older Chinese ladies and 2 that were under 30. Don't think extras can be had but I got my extras later. My tech masseuse was the youngest and about 6-7/10. She was a decent masseuse and was climbing up on my back and getting her knees deep into my muscles. She must of only weighed 90 lbs though. She also got her elbows deep into my shoulders where she went to town. I almost let out a whimper but suppressed it as I didn't want to give her the satisfaction of hearing me squirm. She had her covered pussy up on my forehead, on my shoulder, on my feet (yes I noticed and it was steamy). On the flip she rubbed my chest and thighs. Then jumped on top of me in an almost CG position where she worked on my hips. Her hand was "accidentally" rubbing up on the equipment left and right (I wore tighty whiteys). I got a semi and she said, "All done." Don't know if extras can be had, other than the two younger ones, I don't think I would even want to. Out the door feeling great and only .70 lighter.
Put my date to sleep. I woke her up at the hotel though to get mine. Here are some pics from a previous date I had with one of Baldy Cruiser's friends.
I'm such a Manwhore.