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Unfortunately overpaying makes these gals expect it and that effects their attitude.

Solution, stop doing it!

When they are slow they become willing to please much more easily as well.

[QUOTE=StyleNProfile;6698342]We can all thank the simps who treat these parlor girls like they are the first piece of pussy they ever had and overpay for standard service. They take the info that other mongers have shared in good faith and use it to fuck up the market so the girls treat them "special" (LOL).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigInJapan;6699083]That is the question! lol.

Given that these girls see dozens of guys every week, I can't imagine that the occasional odd man out over tipping is going to ruin the game for everyone. What I can imagine is that the girls remember the guys that treat them well. Just like with servers at restaurants where one is a regular, they'll be sure to provide exceptional service knowing it will be worth their while if they do.

These days, I pay the standard (240/hour) and if a girl [u][b]really[/b][/u] goes above and beyond, I'll show my appreciation for that in the tip. I am not advocating blindly over tipping though. The girls also remember/recognize that, I'm sure. To paraphrase a famous proverb "A simp and his money are soon parted".[/QUOTE]100% agree. I'm not into overpaying for no reason. I always pay the standard rate and will occasionally reward above and beyond service with some extra. If the going rate goes up. No big deal. I get above and beyond treatment all the time. Not because I sometimes tip extra but because I'm good looking, good hygiene, and the girls I see know that I treat them like a human being.

Without tipping anything extra. I regularly get treatment that most of you could only dream of. Earlier this year. I had a girl that I had been seeing regularly off and on for a few months and never tipped her anything above the standard rate -- but also knew when her birthday was so I surprised her with an extra 1 k tip that day.

But I'm so sick and tired of hearing people whine about how they're going to "get priced out of the market" and trying to shame or insult those who do reward the girls.

Here's the hard truth If you can't throw that level of money away without it causing you any concern then you clearly can't afford the hobby. I'm doing really well these days but I was incredibly poor when I was younger. So while I understand the whining. I also have no sympathy. I'm sorry that you work in retail and can't afford better. Your financial situation is not my problem.

There shouldn't be a standard rate. Capitalism says that the really good women should be more expensive than the older and average gals. That's how it is in other cities. I'm happy to pay more for the top girls and let the people who can't afford as much to go see the lower quality women at a lower rate.

So stop bitching about what others pay. Let's just enjoy the hobby and stop putting your inadequacies on other people.

Agree 100%. Especially for us out of towners, a few extra bucks is always good to give the best chance of a rewarding experience.

Now onto more important topics. Who is in the new line up at Gardenia for December? Any talent on the younger end (20's)?

[QUOTE=OlderThanRocks;6699182]100% agree. I'm not into overpaying for no reason. I always pay the standard rate and will occasionally reward above and beyond service with some extra. If the going rate goes up. No big deal. I get above and beyond treatment all the time. Not because I sometimes tip extra but because I'm good looking, good hygiene, and the girls I see know that I treat them like a human being.

Without tipping anything extra. I regularly get treatment that most of you could only dream of. Earlier this year. I had a girl that I had been seeing regularly off and on for a few months and never tipped her anything above the standard rate -- but also knew when her birthday was so I surprised her with an extra 1 k tip that day.

But I'm so sick and tired of hearing people whine about how they're going to "get priced out of the market" and trying to shame or insult those who do reward the girls.

Here's the hard truth If you can't throw that level of money away without it causing you any concern then you clearly can't afford the hobby. I'm doing really well these days but I was incredibly poor when I was younger. So while I understand the whining. I also have no sympathy. I'm sorry that you work in retail and can't afford better. Your financial situation is not my problem.

There shouldn't be a standard rate. Capitalism says that the really good women should be more expensive than the older and average gals. That's how it is in other cities. I'm happy to pay more for the top girls and let the people who can't afford as much to go see the lower quality women at a lower rate.

So stop bitching about what others pay. Let's just enjoy the hobby and stop putting your inadequacies on other people.[/QUOTE]

It's really interesting having known most of these girls from other cities where they charge a bit of a premium (7 total). My gift for them was always $$.5 flat across the board, even $$.2 sometimes if there wasn't a table shower. Seeing the same girls up there now, they tell me the guys here are cheap. Not that I don't sympathize with you guys but it's not that much of a difference. I handed $$.5 to one of the new girls working with one of the girls I know and she went to get me $10 change and I told her to keep it. She was genuinely surprised and gave me a deep kiss and pushed me back on the table for more fun since it wasn't busy. I've gotten crazy mileage from $$.5 gifts. I'm not dropping 1 k tips but I'm also not getting ripped off either (minus the Black Friday fiasco). I wouldn't say I'm the best looking guy but I treat them well and take care of them. The girls will find ways to keep me in the spa, not kick me out at the end of my hour. A lot of you guys are fixated on rushing to get a 2nd serving in, but I'm focused on taking care of them. The girls have returned the favor many times over to me.

So here's what I will say: Worry less about how much you have to give and more about how to get the best out of what you give. Because I've never given more than $$. 5 and I've gotten way more than most of you would think of.

[QUOTE=OlderThanRocks;6699182]100% agree. I'm not into overpaying for no reason. I always pay the standard rate and will occasionally reward above and beyond service with some extra. If the going rate goes up. No big deal. I get above and beyond treatment all the time. Not because I sometimes tip extra but because I'm good looking, good hygiene, and the girls I see know that I treat them like a human being.

Without tipping anything extra. I regularly get treatment that most of you could only dream of. Earlier this year. I had a girl that I had been seeing regularly off and on for a few months and never tipped her anything above the standard rate -- but also knew when her birthday was so I surprised her with an extra 1 k tip that day.

But I'm so sick and tired of hearing people whine about how they're going to "get priced out of the market" and trying to shame or insult those who do reward the girls.

Here's the hard truth If you can't throw that level of money away without it causing you any concern then you clearly can't afford the hobby. I'm doing really well these days but I was incredibly poor when I was younger. So while I understand the whining. I also have no sympathy. I'm sorry that you work in retail and can't afford better. Your financial situation is not my problem..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChicagoStud;6699221]Agree 100%. Especially for us out of towners, a few extra bucks is always good to give the best chance of a rewarding experience.

Now onto more important topics. Who is in the new line up at Gardenia for December? Any talent on the younger end (20's)?[/QUOTE]I was there yesterday. Saw that there were two new girls there. One was really pretty and a slightly fuller figure, the other one looked young and was super thin (too thin for my tastes). Was introduced and offered the new girls but I already had my mind set on one of my favorites so I turned them both down. Unfortunately can't remember either of their names.

My experience is that no matter how young the girls look or say they are. They are always older. I'd say that honestly most girls doing this work are in the 30-45 range. I know one girl in her mid-50's that people in this forum all rated in her 20's. In all my years, the youngest that I've ever truly met (and verified) was 27.

[QUOTE=OlderThanRocks;6699276]My experience is that no matter how young the girls look or say they are. They are always older. I'd say that honestly most girls doing this work are in the 30-45 range. I know one girl in her mid-50's that people in this forum all rated in her 20's. In all my years, the youngest that I've ever truly met (and verified) was 27.[/QUOTE]An utterly brilliant old philosopher once said (ok... it was me!):[list]
[b]I don't know or care about their AGE! I don't fuck whatever number they may say is their age, I fuck their LOOKS[/b]![/list]So, if they [u]LOOK[/u] 25 years old, by conventional age standards for American Girls, then that's what we should care about. We all know conventional age standards for Asian Girls are, generally, much different than what most American men are used to and able to accurately discern. My solution is to report age like this: "[u]Myrtle has the LOOK of a 25-year-old[/u]" ... and leave it at that. Most readers here all KNOW what that look is like, and [b]that's[/b] what we'll be LOOKING at while we fuck 'em! Easy-Peasy!

Now, if one has the LOOK of a [u]12-year-old[/u], then I wanna see some ID proving she's at least 18! But I don't see any of us running into such a situation with the girls or places being reported about here.

Been a while.

First I went to Gardenia and I saw a black vehicle with someone inside just sitting in front of the place so I drove around and parked and watched the place for a few minutes.

Nothing happen but I saw a couple of yall walk in one right after the other lolol. Yall crazy. Literally door closed and other walked right in so someone bumped into other. Awkward haha.

So I decided to visit Tokyo instead. Met a pretty girl there named Lola and her friend "JoJo" or "JuJu" couldn't really understand. Both pretty girls. Jojo a bit thicker wish I had gotten her but all good. Lola was pretty and pretty bolt ons.

She took care of me very well. TS. Salad tossed. Lots of GFE.

Left satisfied.

I do a lot of travelling for work and have been reading the different city forums for a while and just decided to start adding my 2 cents. Was in MCO recently and, after reading reports, was very interested in visiting Angela at Let's Relax. Right as I was about to visit, someone posted a review stating that Angela wasn't as attractive as people were claiming. Made me start to second guess my choice but I stuck with my gut and made the trip. Really glad I did. She was very attractive and also very bubbly and flirtatious. They tried to get me to with someone else (Angela busy, not free for 1 hr) but I said I would come back. That is when they said "Ok" and shortly after she waltzed in wearing her birthday suit. Very nice! Had all of the same activities as previously reported and it was a really wonderful visit. She was funny, too. Kept on shaking her head and laughing at herself. "Oh, Angela. Too much wet! Too much wet! I heard she may not be around soon, so if you are considering a visit, I highly recommend.

BTW. Out of all the cities I travel to, MOC is definitely one of the tops for this hobby. San Diego is also a good one.

[QUOTE=OrlandoMcKoy;6699515]Nothing happen but I saw a couple of yall walk in one right after the other lolol. Yall crazy. Literally door closed and other walked right in so someone bumped into other. Awkward haha.[/QUOTE]Honestly. Wouldn't it be better (without the syphilis and gonorrhea, anyway) if this "sport" were like the old western days. Roll into the saloon with a few buddies after a long day at work. Grab a beer / whiskey, relax and wait for your turn with the ladies? All of this "don't make eye contact" stuff is just silly. It shouldn't be an issue, as long as you don't bump into your pastor, your wife, your brother-in-law, or your dad / son, when visiting these wonderful establishments.

I walked into MM a few years ago (before the Sp-apocalypse), and there must have been 4-5 dudes hanging out in the front room, waiting their turn. Everyone looking like a spanked puppy, refusing to make eye contact. If I wasn't on a time crunch, I would have ran to the grocery store and picked up a 12 pack of beer, to bring back to the waiting room, for an impromptu tailgate (oddly appropriate word for the scenario) party in the waiting room. Wonder what Keiko would have said, about that?

Anyway, there is no reason to get worked up about bumping into each other, when visiting these places. It's no BFD. Enjoy the sport and don't worry about what other people think. Nobody (at least here, anyway) should care. Unless I got there first. .

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw4xe-hzYUQ[/URL]

[QUOTE=FootyFanatic14;6699224]So here's what I will say: Worry less about how much you have to give and more about how to get the best out of what you give. Because I've never given more than $$. 5 and I've gotten way more than most of you would think of.[/QUOTE]Even just moderate gestures of appreciation can yield great rewards. It's amazing how bringing few snacks, a Boba tea or cold Ramune to start the session can really extend the level and duration of fun.

I frequently give the providers a massage at some point in the session, as well. You know how random girls will sometimes poke their heads in the door, in the middle of a visit? Got "busted" by another girl, when giving my primary a massage. She wanted some massage as well, so ended up with an impromptu 4 hands session, that went overtime due to the additional massage for the additional girl. That's a pretty good trade off.

Knowing that there has been a lot of rotation at Gardenia, Tokyo, etc. I swung by Tokyo this afternoon to see the new talent.

One of the new girls opened the door in a tight little black dress, took me by the hand and into the room. Once the door was closed she introduced herself and then wrapped her arms around my neck and started making out with me. Her name is Lola and she is very, very pretty. Long dark hair, good curves (probably C cup). She's a little bit on the shorter side for me but we managed just fine.

I don't want to write a penthouse forum letter. But it was a really, really good session. Total GFE. I held her up in the air while she wrapped her legs around me and was grinding against me while we made out. After a little while I sat her on the edge of the table as we slowly took each other's clothes off. I laid her down and started kissing all over her body and we were doing a modified 69 with her on her side and me half on the table half-off. Suited up and get her on top of me while I was sitting on the edge of the table. Then doggy. And finished in mish.

I would say that she's right up there with Blue at the other store or Kiki from MM in terms of passion but she's looks a bit younger than either of them.

[QUOTE=FootyFanatic14;6699224]It's really interesting having known most of these girls from other cities where they charge a bit of a premium (7 total). My gift for them was always $$.5 flat across the board, even $$.2 sometimes if there wasn't a table shower. Seeing the same girls up there now, they tell me the guys here are cheap. Not that I don't sympathize with you guys but it's not that much of a difference. I handed $$.5 to one of the new girls working with one of the girls I know and she went to get me $10 change and I told her to keep it. She was genuinely surprised and gave me a deep kiss and pushed me back on the table for more fun since it wasn't busy. I've gotten crazy mileage from $$.5 gifts. I'm not dropping 1 k tips but I'm also not getting ripped off either (minus the Black Friday fiasco). I wouldn't say I'm the best looking guy but I treat them well and take care of them. The girls will find ways to keep me in the spa, not kick me out at the end of my hour. A lot of you guys are fixated on rushing to get a 2nd serving in, but I'm focused on taking care of them. The girls have returned the favor many times over to me.

So here's what I will say: Worry less about how much you have to give and more about how to get the best out of what you give. Because I've never given more than $$. 5 and I've gotten way more than most of you would think of.[/QUOTE]Exactly. It's my habit to give more than asked for a few reasons.

1) I am average looking, middle aged, and not well hung. So some things I can do to make myself a bit more memorable and welcomed when I return are be to be polite, respectful, and personable; and to give a little extra unasked. I also don't stress over getting a second round in. I'd rather kick back and relax with them if we have extra time.

2) I don't want to talk about money after a session has started. If a girl is the type that keeps asking for more as we progress, it kills the mood for me and I probably won't see her again.

3) It's really not that extra. It's a 25 percent tip. People also tip me that much in my service business sometimes (no I'm not a waiter LOL).

If someone is a rockstar or so charming that they will be remembered and greeted as sweetly as I am without having to tip, good for them! But my method works for me.

Decided to try let's Relax for the first time today, I've been going to Gardenia since things opened back up. I have to stay by saying I love the parking at Let's Relax, it's downstairs and the spa is right at the top of the stairs, almost as discreet as you can get. Monica / blue is my ATF but today I wanted somebody new, I walk inside and guess who greats me? Monica LOL. I told her I wanted to see get but she said she had very pretty new girl, so I gave in. A few min go by and Ada walks in and she was really cute. I don't know if she was new by she seemed really submissive. We've reviewed these spa's a thousand times so everything is on par with the service that's expected, the only difference was that Ada have more of a GF experience than a PSE experience, she seemed so innocent and cute, skin was a bit tanned and she had the sexiest man mades, large b / small c, dark hair past her shoulders, typical AMP backside. I went around 2 pm and they weren't busy at all.

[QUOTE=OlderThanRocks;6699276]

My experience is that no matter how young the girls look or say they are. They are always older. I'd say that honestly most girls doing this work are in the 30-45 range. I know one girl in her mid-50's that people in this forum all rated in her 20's. In all my years, the youngest that I've ever truly met (and verified) was 27.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree. I've been corrected on here when I've said a girl "looks about 25" and I feel the same about it. If she looks that way to me, that's how I'm going to review her. I know most of them are actually older, but who cares? They've done a damn good job keeping young looking and we should be impressed with that dedication.

Plus, they keep those rooms dim for that very reason, to help us with our illusions. I'm good with that.

[QUOTE=Cocoacruiser;6699669]Exactly. It's my habit to give more than asked for a few reasons.

1) I am average looking, middle aged, and not well hung. So some things I can do to make myself a bit more memorable and welcomed when I return are be to be polite, respectful, and personable; and to give a little extra unasked. I also don't stress over getting a second round in. I'd rather kick back and relax with them if we have extra time.

2) I don't want to talk about money after a session has started. If a girl is the type that keeps asking for more as we progress, it kills the mood for me and I probably won't see her again.

3) It's really not that extra. It's a 25 percent tip. People also tip me that much in my service business sometimes (no I'm not a waiter LOL).

If someone is a rockstar or so charming that they will be remembered and greeted as sweetly as I am without having to tip, good for them! But my method works for me.[/QUOTE]I agree that negotiating after the session starts is a mood killer. Especially with some attitudes about it. Only once or twice have the girls been so cute and funny about it that I didn't mind. But usually negotiating during the session makes me lose interest.