Escort Reports

[QUOTE=Flagrant;6106530]I saw her once, years ago. The session started off nice. But eventually she revealed she's not really into the whole GFE thing and basically said, "Can you hurry up and finish?" LOL.

I've thought about repeating, thinking, "Maybe her attitude has improved?" That thinking is based on nothing but pure delusion.

Anyway, I appreciate this report. I'll never consider her again.[/QUOTE]Jessica's attitude has not changed, at least it hasn't improved. I saw her for a qv which she says is 15 minutes, and included everything I wanted. I got there and she took the money and counted it. She got undressed and then said I have 5 minutes. I asked about the 15 minutes and she said it's only 5. Also said it's a quick fuck and nothing else. I was in and out in less than 5 minutes. Ripoff as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6107019]I've never seen her or attempted to either. This sucks if it happened. But when a ripoff report is somebody's very first post, a little skepticism is warranted.[/QUOTE]You're not wrong. I have no proof that what allegedly happened actually happened but I find it hard to believe that someone would take the time and effort to create a profile and write out a post if it wasn't true.

[QUOTE=NutsyNut;6107119]Jessica's attitude has not changed, at least it hasn't improved. I saw her for a qv which she says is 15 minutes, and included everything I wanted. I got there and she took the money and counted it. She got undressed and then said I have 5 minutes. I asked about the 15 minutes and she said it's only 5. Also said it's a quick fuck and nothing else. I was in and out in less than 5 minutes. Ripoff as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE]She is a crack maniac! Long time poster here. Aggressive, caustic, crappy, this critter is capable of some no good business. Has been around long enough to learn that most tricks are timid and will leave at the first sign of conflict. She is now officially entered into the classification of thief as attested by at least four reports. I was able to observe her as a visitor not a client while another provider I am very close to was shacked up with her. Sharing a hotel room cost etc. She presented as a toxic beast with vitriolic rambling. Couldn't spend every penny fast enough on the crack. Avoid. ".

[QUOTE=NutsyNut;6107119]Jessica's attitude has not changed, at least it hasn't improved. I saw her for a qv which she says is 15 minutes, and included everything I wanted. I got there and she took the money and counted it. She got undressed and then said I have 5 minutes. I asked about the 15 minutes and she said it's only 5. Also said it's a quick fuck and nothing else. I was in and out in less than 5 minutes. Ripoff as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE]Well, I consider what you described a ripoff.

Sometimes when I am in a good mood and have some time, setup appoints to ripoffs and ghost them, or I ask for outcalls and ghost. Even better!.

[QUOTE=Flagrant;6103869]Tryst is hilarious. If you search for girls in Madison, there's always a handful who aren't going to be in Madison for a couple of weeks. Like, do they understand how this is largely a spur of the moment addiction? I mean, they screen. So I'm going to send screening info to a girl in Florida for maybe a chance to see her when she maybe comes to Madison mid-September? LOL.

Anyway, the other nutty thing you encounter is this insanely vast menu of options. It's worse than a Chinese buffet. I challenge any of you code breakers to figure out what this one charges for an hour of incall in Madison, Wisconsin:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/jaydalee[/URL][/QUOTE]Her website clearly states her Wisconsin rates (60 mins = 400,90 mins = 600).

[QUOTE=CasualReader1;6107234]You're not wrong. I have no proof that what allegedly happened actually happened but I find it hard to believe that someone would take the time and effort to create a profile and write out a post if it wasn't true.[/QUOTE]I dunno, man, I'm not saying the ripoff didn't happen, but the time and effort to create a profile and write a post isn't any more than the time and effort to lead a provider who ghosted on a wild goose chase for revenge. Apparently guys do that. I just don't put as much stock in a first-poster's ripoff report as I do in an established forum participant's, that's all.

[QUOTE=RattleHead;6107422]Her website clearly states her Wisconsin rates (60 mins = 400,90 mins = 600).[/QUOTE]My point was simply that the tryst ad was bewildering. The pricing menu has over a dozen options for touring, many of which are location specific. There's pricing that excludes Wisconsin, which naturally raises the question, "OK, then, what's the price for Wisconsin?" And the ad does not answer that.

But yeah, if I scroll all the way to the bottom, and visit her separate website:

[URL]https://www.exoticjaydalee.com/travel-54/[/URL]

I can find:

[QUOTE]Wisconsin Touring Rates

Madison and Green Bay WI 400/hr 600/90min 700/2hr 900/3hr

800/Cocktail Date 1100/4hr dinner date FBSM-250/hr 350/90min[/QUOTE]Yawn. Next.

[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6107463]I dunno, man, I'm not saying the ripoff didn't happen, but the time and effort to create a profile and write a post isn't any more than the time and effort to lead a provider who ghosted on a wild goose chase for revenge. Apparently guys do that. I just don't put as much stock in a first-poster's ripoff report as I do in an established forum participant's, that's all.[/QUOTE]I don't think I've ever sent one of them on a wild goose chase just for the thrill of making them run all around town, that's just needlessly cruel, and 2 wrongs don't make a right.

I would rather deny rip-off artists any business. Maybe it's just me, IDK, but I choose to believe someone that writes a rip-off report because I have been ripped-off so many times myself and have Zero tolerance for it.

I'm mostly out of the hobby these days so I don't really care if people do as I think is best in regards to a rip-off artist.

This is a somewhat new ad:

[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/cherri-is-here-for-the-week/074950147236[/URL]

Anyone seen her?

The ad has some indications of being a scam. Glamorous pics, no face, sparse text. "Here for the week" usually means "nowhere near your dumb ass. " etc. LOL.

She sent a face pic. It was somewhat TGTBT. Not supermodel fake. More wholesome girl next door fake.

I spoke with her. She seemed somewhat legit. But some red flags:

* Wants $400 for an hour, said yes to GFE, but it sounds limited.

* Hosts from her apartment. Said, "No boyfriend" which usually indicates the opposite.

* Said she'd send address, then went silent.

I generally avoid going to residential incall. A ripoff can happen in hotels too, but at least with most hotel rooms, you can bolt the door, so at least you know when someone is about to interrupt. Usually, the girl has to let the dude in. In a residence, you can't easily control or even be aware of all the points of entry for surprise visitors.

I might see if she's open to a car date. Just to meet in person in a setting that's more in my control.

[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6107463]I dunno, man, I'm not saying the ripoff didn't happen, but the time and effort to create a profile and write a post isn't any more than the time and effort to lead a provider who ghosted on a wild goose chase for revenge. Apparently guys do that. I just don't put as much stock in a first-poster's ripoff report as I do in an established forum participant's, that's all.[/QUOTE]Based on everything I have ever heard about her, his report is very believable. Now if someone posted a good review of her, and was a new member, that I would not believe.

I received a message from another member who told me that in his entire experience of doing this hobby, his visit with her was the only time he felt that he Was in the company of a truly horrible and evil human being. That says a lot.

Has anyone reported on Mya from Fitchburg.

She regularly post and seems legit.

Since everyone has been helpful to me, I wanted to add too the group. Don't know if she's been reported on before, thought I'd add my two cents worth. I saw her a few months back. Had a descent massage with a BBBJ to finish. I believe FS is cover and never got far enough nor did I ask about GFE. Her kitty got really wet when playing with it during the session. No rx usages or management that I could see, but she does not have any teeth. Not a clock watchers, fairly easy on the wallet. All around sweet person. If I get the time will repeat. Be Safe. Stay cool.

[URL]https://milwaukee.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/come-have-some-fun-in-windsor-/444418029493[/URL]

[QUOTE=IronMan74;6108472]Based on everything I have ever heard about her, his report is very believable. Now if someone posted a good review of her, and was a new member, that I would not believe.

I received a message from another member who told me that in his entire experience of doing this hobby, his visit with her was the only time he felt that he Was in the company of a truly horrible and evil human being. That says a lot.[/QUOTE]I totally understand the skepticism of a first post but I created the account a while ago and simply just lurked and for a year or so, gaining info on who to see or who to avoid.

I just felt the need to inform everyone here what happened. I certainly would like to know what someone is like prior to visiting them. As I walked out, I knew the hassle wasn't worth the drama for the relatively small amount of cash but I knew I'd be posting about it here.

Like I said, I've seen her about 3 times before, but only once at her northside apt and the closed door didn't phase me because although she certainly did not have the best attitude, things were completed and I left with the job done with nobody coming out the other door the time before.

If you truly think I'm pulling the wool over your eyes, go experience her for yourself.

[QUOTE=IronMan74;6108472]Based on everything I have ever heard about her, his report is very believable. Now if someone posted a good review of her, and was a new member, that I would not believe.

I received a message from another member who told me that in his entire experience of doing this hobby, his visit with her was the only time he felt that he Was in the company of a truly horrible and evil human being. That says a lot.[/QUOTE]I'm no fan of hers. But that seems a bit hyperbolic.

[QUOTE=Soreth;6109331]I totally understand the skepticism of a first post but I created the account a while ago and simply just lurked and for a year or so, gaining info on who to see or who to avoid.

I just felt the need to inform everyone here what happened. I certainly would like to know what someone is like prior to visiting them. As I walked out, I knew the hassle wasn't worth the drama for the relatively small amount of cash but I knew I'd be posting about it here.

Like I said, I've seen her about 3 times before, but only once at her northside apt and the closed door didn't phase me because although she certainly did not have the best attitude, things were completed and I left with the job done with nobody coming out the other door the time before.

If you truly think I'm pulling the wool over your eyes, go experience her for yourself.[/QUOTE]I think you might be responding to someone else, or are misinterpreting my post. I believe you 100%.

[QUOTE=IronMan74;6109790]I think you might be responding to someone else, or are misinterpreting my post. I believe you 100%.[/QUOTE]He was probably responding to me. I tend to believe him too. But I do think it's reasonable to take newness into account, since there have been a fair number of "first posts" that turned out to be b. S. Flung by a disgruntled monger to harm a provider he was pissed at. It happens. Probably not this time.

[QUOTE=Flagrant;6109654]I'm no fan of hers. But that seems a bit hyperbolic.[/QUOTE]I don't know. We have probably all had a bad experience or two. I don't think it is a stretch to say that she was someone's worst.

I saw her on her last visit to Madison and negotiated down on her rate. I believe she was not getting many visits so she discounted the rate. She still wasn't worth the price I paid for.

[QUOTE=Flagrant;6107811]My point was simply that the tryst ad was bewildering. The pricing menu has over a dozen options for touring, many of which are location specific. There's pricing that excludes Wisconsin, which naturally raises the question, "OK, then, what's the price for Wisconsin?" And the ad does not answer that.

But yeah, if I scroll all the way to the bottom, and visit her separate website:

[URL]https://www.exoticjaydalee.com/travel-54/[/URL]

I can find:

Yawn. Next.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveBoydodo;6104416]I have met her once. But it went like this: I came, I saw, I left.

She opened the door. I see the girl in picture but 10-15 years older. She was wearing lingerie and tits were shaggy like gradma's. So I just turned around and left.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a perfect example of YMMV? Jaydalee has numerous recent good reviews both on TER and this website. Have not experienced myself due to schedules and other factors despite trying several times. So I gave up.

But hey, to each their own.

Anyone else with Jaydalee experience? PM me if you prefer?

[QUOTE=IronMan74;6110060]I don't know. We have probably all had a bad experience or two. I don't think it is a stretch to say that she was someone's worst.[/QUOTE]Totally understood. She didn't rip me off. I got more or less what I expected from a mechanical point of view. I just expected her to at least pretend she was enjoying it and try to delight me for the short time we were together (half hour). That was too much to ask, clearly. I definitely left the donation. But she texted me 10 minutes after I left, "Where's the donation?" So there was that additional bad taste in the mouth. Was she that inept or was she trying to get me to pay again? I abandoned that burner number as I had no desire to find out.

Nonetheless, she was far from the worst experience I've had. But I believe the ripoff report. And based on that, I will never consider her again.

[QUOTE=PearlDiver20;6110738]Sounds like a perfect example of YMMV? Jaydalee has numerous recent good reviews both on TER and this website. Have not experienced myself due to schedules and other factors despite trying several times. So I gave up.

But hey, to each their own.

Anyone else with Jaydalee experience? PM me if you prefer?[/QUOTE]I hope she's what you're looking for. Personally, I've encountered plenty of girls who use old pics of themselves. It's basically bait and switch. Why do we tolerate it? The answer is simple (and depressing): We lack impulse control and we think, "Why not? I'm here already. " I love hearing stories about dudes who get to the door, feel dissatisfied for whatever reason, and walk the fuck away. If you haven't done that, find the ugliest and least interesting girl you can on STG. And practice that skill. Over and over. Until you feel completely confident in your absolute right to insist on what you're looking for. To refuse to put up with less.

I guarantee you, with that attitude, you won't be indulging much in these parts. Unless you have absolutely zero taste. LOL.

[QUOTE=RunawayTruck;6105946]Any Intel on this cute blond?

[URL]https://milwaukee.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sugar-and-spice-im-everything-/602274811795[/URL][/QUOTE]I have seen Jane a couple times. Talks nonstop a mile a minute. Kind of a turn off. So I decided to repeat. Offered a little less for a QV. She accepted. Since, she has been asking for the rest of her HHR rate. Something that was never discussed or agreed upon. She's not my first choice, but for sure will no longer repeat.

[QUOTE=Mfdvr;6111263]I have seen Jane a couple times. Talks nonstop a mile a minute. Kind of a turn off. So I decided to repeat. Offered a little less for a QV. She accepted. Since, she has been asking for the rest of her HHR rate. Something that was never discussed or agreed upon. She's not my first choice, but for sure will no longer repeat.[/QUOTE]And who will drive an hour for this kind of service. Save four-five visit and buy apple watch ultra! Better eye candy and service than any one of these STG chicks!

I was met with the same criticism for a first post so I get it. If a first time post could be a pissed out monger so can be a post from a senior one as well and why take all the pain to create account and write a review.

[QUOTE=Soreth;6109331]I totally understand the skepticism of a first post but I created the account a while ago and simply just lurked and for a year or so, gaining info on who to see or who to avoid.

I just felt the need to inform everyone here what happened. I certainly would like to know what someone is like prior to visiting them. As I walked out, I knew the hassle wasn't worth the drama for the relatively small amount of cash but I knew I'd be posting about it here.

Like I said, I've seen her about 3 times before, but only once at her northside apt and the closed door didn't phase me because although she certainly did not have the best attitude, things were completed and I left with the job done with nobody coming out the other door the time before.

If you truly think I'm pulling the wool over your eyes, go experience her for yourself.[/QUOTE]

I can't remember the last time I saw a local provider. Pre-Covid? The recent rip-off report was confirmation enough for me. Yes, a few good escorts work here, but those are difficult to schedule; and, I suppose part of it for me is variety is the spice of life. Add into it the investment. I know for some gentlemen, money is no object. But for me, the recent inflation rate of local providers with so so reviews has nearly made me quit this hobby. My interest has moved to seeing visiting providers with reasonable rates, some of whom occasionally repeat. They aren't always the highest profile, but at least I've never been ripped off and the service has been as advertised. And, I usually find them interesting as women.

[QUOTE=Mfdvr;6111263]I have seen Jane a couple times. Talks nonstop a mile a minute. Kind of a turn off. So I decided to repeat. Offered a little less for a QV. She accepted. Since, she has been asking for the rest of her HHR rate. Something that was never discussed or agreed upon. She's not my first choice, but for sure will no longer repeat.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Intel, Mfdvr. Looks like slim pickens.

[QUOTE=LumberJack5555;6112283]I can't remember the last time I saw a local provider. Pre-Covid? The recent rip-off report was confirmation enough for me. Yes, a few good escorts work here, but those are difficult to schedule; and, I suppose part of it for me is variety is the spice of life. Add into it the investment. I know for some gentlemen, money is no object. But for me, the recent inflation rate of local providers with so so reviews has nearly made me quit this hobby. My interest has moved to seeing visiting providers with reasonable rates, some of whom occasionally repeat. They aren't always the highest profile, but at least I've never been ripped off and the service has been as advertised. And, I usually find them interesting as women.[/QUOTE]" if you look through the reports of the past several years on this site it is evident that addiction is the prevalent driving force for a majority of the women who work as providers. Honestly I know of none that are simply here out of the goodness of their heart Or their kink for older men, men of all shapes and sizes, men of all demeanor, men in need. We have of course observed the gems. The ones that make you forget its service. But this isn't talent so much as it is simply a natural sexual responsiveness which cannot be shelved during the act. When they disappear on state vacations, for six months to a year we like to report that. When they reappear because they have now found their freedom again only to re-shackle themselves to drug dealers. And that is when we rejoice right? Fundamentally it is a disturbing relationship and dynamic. When we handover the donation are we helping? Are we hurting? Do we care? Crack crazed, legs and arms covered in bruises, rip offs plotting door knocks in the middle of a session. Really resembles cockroaches more than anything else. Everybody's trying to feed and not get stepped on. The general pay scale or shall we say donation scale on STG is low rent as it gets. And yes the majority are strung out. So are we not bottom feeders? I say yes. Nothing classy going on here with providers or as clients. I guess my problem is I care once in a while it gets to me. ".

[QUOTE=LumberJack5555;6112283]I can't remember the last time I saw a local provider. Pre-Covid? The recent rip-off report was confirmation enough for me. Yes, a few good escorts work here, but those are difficult to schedule; and, I suppose part of it for me is variety is the spice of life. Add into it the investment. I know for some gentlemen, money is no object. But for me, the recent inflation rate of local providers with so so reviews has nearly made me quit this hobby. My interest has moved to seeing visiting providers with reasonable rates, some of whom occasionally repeat. They aren't always the highest profile, but at least I've never been ripped off and the service has been as advertised. And, I usually find them interesting as women.[/QUOTE]I hear ya. I have another trip booked to Madison middle of this month and have been watching the board looking for options. At this point (assuming I can get them to respond) I am looking at either Lexxi or Angel, possible fallback to Asian Mia but I need out and her in rates are already higher than I want.

Anyone have experience with either of these?

[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/let-me-put-the-rise-and-shine-/211172994334[/URL]

[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/xo-jax-smoking-ot--new-pics--g/637611280970[/URL]

[QUOTE=Martinobi;6113356]I hear ya. I have another trip booked to Madison middle of this month and have been watching the board looking for options. At this point (assuming I can get them to respond) I am looking at either Lexxi or Angel, possible fallback to Asian Mia but I need out and her in rates are already higher than I want.

Anyone have experience with either of these?

[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/let-me-put-the-rise-and-shine-/211172994334[/URL]

[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/xo-jax-smoking-ot--new-pics--g/637611280970[/URL][/QUOTE]This one is Nicole:

[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/let-me-put-the-rise-and-shine-/211172994334[/URL]

You can search for reports on her by that name. I would not recommend. She was good when she started, years ago. Lately, it's pure rush job and frenzy.

[QUOTE=Flagrant;6113378]This one is Nicole:

[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/let-me-put-the-rise-and-shine-/211172994334[/URL]

You can search for reports on her by that name. I would not recommend. She was good when she started, years ago. Lately, it's pure rush job and frenzy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info man! Unfortunately she was the only person I could get to respond. :/ Looks like it'll be just a boring work trip!

[QUOTE=Martinobi;6113356]I hear ya. I have another trip booked to Madison middle of this month and have been watching the board looking for options. At this point (assuming I can get them to respond) I am looking at either Lexxi or Angel, possible fallback to Asian Mia but I need out and her in rates are already higher than I want.

Anyone have experience with either of these?

[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/let-me-put-the-rise-and-shine-/211172994334[/URL]

[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/xo-jax-smoking-ot--new-pics--g/637611280970[/URL][/QUOTE]I tried to Dm you, but got this message.

Martinobi has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

[QUOTE=HospyPro;6113217]" if you look through the reports of the past several years on this site it is evident that addiction is the prevalent driving force for a majority of the women who work as providers. Honestly I know of none that are simply here out of the goodness of their heart Or their kink for older men, men of all shapes and sizes, men of all demeanor, men in need. We have of course observed the gems. The ones that make you forget its service. But this isn't talent so much as it is simply a natural sexual responsiveness which cannot be shelved during the act.[/QUOTE]For low-end providers like the dregs on STG, you're right, I doubt there's one among them that isn't doing it to support a habit.

Higher end providers are often truly drug-free. They aren't doing it to support a habit, nor are they doing it because of kindness or a kink for older men. They're doing it because they don't mind having sex with strangers and they've come to conclusion that it pays much better than being a waitress, a barista, or a cashier. Where else can a girl with little or no education make a couple K a week? Or, in other cases, they have a legitimate job that they supplement by escorting on the side.

[QUOTE=Martinobi;6113463]Thanks for the info man! Unfortunately she was the only person I could get to respond. :/ Looks like it'll be just a boring work trip![/QUOTE]I'd second the view that Nicole isn't worth the price of admission. Hyperactive and rushed is a good way to describe my experience, she was either high or jonesing for her fix. She's also nowhere near as pretty as those old photos would suggest. Her "lifestyle" has taken its toll on her appearance and self-care.

Sadly, Nicole is probably one of the better STGers by reputation. After an at best mediocre experience with her, I wrote off STG altogether as a lost cause.

Incidentally, who is Angel? I've seen Mia and never could get a response from Lexxi, but Angel is a new one to me. I searched her name and several people have negative review of an "Earth Angel" from STG last year, I'm guessing it's not the same person.

[QUOTE=LumberJack5555;6112283]I can't remember the last time I saw a local provider. Pre-Covid? The recent rip-off report was confirmation enough for me. Yes, a few good escorts work here, but those are difficult to schedule; and, I suppose part of it for me is variety is the spice of life. Add into it the investment. I know for some gentlemen, money is no object. But for me, the recent inflation rate of local providers with so so reviews has nearly made me quit this hobby. My interest has moved to seeing visiting providers with reasonable rates, some of whom occasionally repeat. They aren't always the highest profile, but at least I've never been ripped off and the service has been as advertised. And, I usually find them interesting as women.[/QUOTE]I'm in the same situation. The few locals who had good reviews were either impossible to contact, or, when I did see them, were nothing to write home about.

Other than Tryst, where do you browse for visitors? I had a recent good experience with Lilly Lee off Tryst, looking for similar price / quality.

[QUOTE=Varanus;6113821]For low-end providers like the dregs on STG, you're right, I doubt there's one among them that isn't doing it to support a habit.

Higher end providers are often truly drug-free. They aren't doing it to support a habit, nor are they doing it because of kindness or a kink for older men. They're doing it because they don't mind having sex with strangers and they've come to conclusion that it pays much better than being a waitress, a barista, or a cashier. Where else can a girl with little or no education make a couple K a week? Or, in other cases, they have a legitimate job that they supplement by escorting on the side.[/QUOTE]Not to mention, it's all tax free money.

[QUOTE=Varanus;6113837]I'm in the same situation. The few locals who had good reviews were either impossible to contact, or, when I did see them, were nothing to write home about.

Other than Tryst, where do you browse for visitors? I had a recent good experience with Lilly Lee off Tryst, looking for similar price / quality.[/QUOTE]I've used P411 for the past year and a half. They pop up there, though they are often on Tryst as well. One thing I like is I can search and email providers from other areas asking if they might travel here at some point. When you're older with limited resources and find it difficult to connect with decent local talent, I've found the membership fee has been worth it. I don't waste my time with a provider unless they indicate "senior friendly. " And once you have a number of okays from providers you've seen, I think that helps in making future contacts. There's a trust factor with that. For example, the last provider I saw, I realized at the last minute was in town, When I contacted her, I indicated I thought she might be booked but asked her to keep me in mind if she had a cancellation or returned to Madison. Sure enough, she did the next day and got back to me. Turned out to be a good experience. Obviously, YMMV, but I have never felt uncomfortable with these women and have never been ripped off. I don't want to waste my dollar anymore seeing a local who has become cynical and over worked. The talent here has gotten so thin, overly expensive for me, or unavailable because they are still decent and therefore so popular. That said, P411 has a limited listing, but it does change with traveling talent.

"Fundamentally it is a disturbing relationship and dynamic. When we handover the donation are we helping? Are we hurting? Do we care? Crack crazed, legs and arms covered in bruises, rip offs plotting door knocks in the middle of a session. Really resembles cockroaches more than anything else. Everybody's trying to feed and not get stepped on. The general pay scale or shall we say donation scale on STG is low rent as it gets. And yes the majority are strung out. So are we not bottom feeders? I say yes. Nothing classy going on here with providers or as clients. I guess my problem is I care once in a while it gets to me. ".

Yes, I have had the same thoughts. It can be a terrible industry. And yet I find enjoyment in sharing time with women necessary. It completes one of my basic needs. What's a man to do? Which is why I find the hypocritical moralizers in this country who continue to outlaw prostitution the heart of the problem. They make it worse by forcing it underground.

[QUOTE=NutsyNut;6113816]I tried to Dm you, but got this message.

Martinobi has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.[/QUOTE]Sorry, try again, I cleared some space.

[QUOTE=LumberJack5555;6114405]"Fundamentally it is a disturbing relationship and dynamic. When we handover the donation are we helping? Are we hurting? Do we care? Crack crazed, legs and arms covered in bruises, rip offs plotting door knocks in the middle of a session. Really resembles cockroaches more than anything else. Everybody's trying to feed and not get stepped on. The general pay scale or shall we say donation scale on STG is low rent as it gets. And yes the majority are strung out. So are we not bottom feeders? I say yes. Nothing classy going on here with providers or as clients. I guess my problem is I care once in a while it gets to me. ".

Yes, I have had the same thoughts. It can be a terrible industry. And yet I find enjoyment in sharing time with women necessary. It completes one of my basic needs. What's a man to do? Which is why I find the hypocritical moralizers in this country who continue to outlaw prostitution the heart of the problem. They make it worse by forcing it underground.[/QUOTE]"Yes this discussion has been had with several of the higher minded thinkers and journalists. There's one writer who is a former sex worker. This one of her articles. The Watch: "Lies, damned lies and sex work statistics."

By Maggie McNeill March 27,2014 at 3:46 pm CDT (Maggie McNeill is a retired call girl. She writes at her blog, The Honest Courtesan.) Here is link to article posted in the Washington Post that sure they would prefer that they had never published because of it being counter to the politically correct. "[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/03/27/lies-damned-lies-and-sex-work-statistics/[/URL]" it is common knowledge that places with legalized prostitution have shown greatly improved safety for the provider. Places with legalized drugs and legalized prostitution have less crime, less incarceration, and health outcomes are profoundly superior to places that oppress. Check out the article of particular note is how the author bring light to "human trafficking / sex trafficking statistic in this country being bunk as all get out. A propaganda tool to unite the right wing, Christian, left wing, feminists in a war that actually oppresses women. Greater control over women. Thanks for adding comment. These STG girls here are beleaguered from habitual incarceration, addiction and desperation as well mental illness. And yes in spite of this I as a man have needs and am a participant."

The local scene seems to be going from bad to worse. STG is ever a cesspool of scams and girls I wouldn't fuck with your dog's dick. And yet they hang on. Why? Who on earth is the demand for this wretched supply?

And tryst? Hi there hot girl from 600 miles away visiting Madison in 2 months, yes where shall I send all my private info and a deposit in the hopes that you will actually come some day. LOL.

SA is the only reliable option, but it's a giant time suck. Thank god it costs $100 per month and they don't reliably take anonymous gift cards--otherwise, with zero friction, I'd be glued to the site all day chasing the latest hot young tail.