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[QUOTE=Gopher88;2100376]Them girls change there names like we change underware.
Summer, Linda, Susan, Michelle, Candy, Koko. And I'm sure many more.
Just read a review on that other site:
"Just so you guys know, Cindy is Coco / Michelle. Who was Amy at Oriental Spa".[/QUOTE]I'm still looking for Angela from the old Senina. Tried all her 5 old numbers she gave me but none no longer work. She probably changed her name / number and moved on as many of them do...a lot. LOL.
This place is full of shit. They advertised $50 for the hour for about a year and then they come up with its only for first timers even though it doesn't say that anywhere in the ad. When brought to the attention of whos there they pleaded ignornace so I left. HE's are hard to come by there unless you invest time with the right person.
[QUOTE=GotMilf;2091481][URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sunny-sap-60hr-special-oak-parkfree-table-shower/21380540[/URL]
TOFTT. Bad massage. Bad TS. Left unhappy. Too bad because masseuse was about an 8. Young and very cute. YMMV.
Seniors can PM me for details.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Silvio;2101578]HE's are hard to come by there unless you invest time with the right person.[/QUOTE]You're better off Investing your Money with a Provider rather than with a AMP Girl. AMP Girls don't stay very long at one place. So your Investment is out the Door. Providers tend to stick around alot longer than an AMP Girl. Besides with a Provider you'll get more than just a HJ HE.
I realize Asians look younger as a rule but those girls in their ad look like they are 10. They only thing those hands are good for are a crayola.
[QUOTE=Silvio;2101578]This place is full of shit. They advertised $50 for the hour for about a year and then they come up with its only for first timers even though it doesn't say that anywhere in the ad. When brought to the attention of whos there they pleaded ignornace so I left. HE's are hard to come by there unless you invest time with the right person.[/QUOTE]
I agree. My system is I stick to Chinese girls. I learned about 20 Chinese words and phrases. Polite things. You can make a very good impression and they remember you. If her massage is good and the girl seems nice, I ask (a) her Chinese name and (b) ask her if I can ask for her again. Then the next time, I get her phone number, and explain that I like her and don't want to lose touch if she goes somewhere else. 100% give their number and 100% text back and forth using "WeChat". Yeah, it's an investment. Only problem is I have like 6 Chinese "wives" now. A couple of them ended up working at the same place. Very tricky.
[QUOTE=RonM;2101621]You're better off Investing your Money with a Provider rather than with a AMP Girl. AMP Girls don't stay very long at one place. So your Investment is out the Door. Providers tend to stick around alot longer than an AMP Girl. Besides with a Provider you'll get more than just a HJ HE.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Silvio;2101578]This place is full of shit. They advertised $50 for the hour for about a year and then they come up with its only for first timers even though it doesn't say that anywhere in the ad. When brought to the attention of whos there they pleaded ignornace so I left. HE's are hard to come by there unless you invest time with the right person.[/QUOTE]I don't see where the ad states $50.00 anywhere.
If you are un-happy with one place then move on to another and post it on here, like you did. It's not like there are not enough places around advertising for our hard earned money.
If you do find one you like and trust then ask for her number or give her yours and tell her to notify you when she moves to another location. That has worked well for me and some AMP girls I have seen for over a year or so until they either quit the business or moved out of the area.
Thanks for letting us know.
Any Info on this one? The pictures are from Someone I know pretty well. When I asked about it. She told me, someone keep stealing her pics. I have a feeling she is lying. Just wondering if anyone have seen her. I might just surprise her.
[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sexy-sensual-and-beautiful-26/21856819[/URL]
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2100887]I'm still looking for Angela from the old Senina. Tried all her 5 old numbers she gave me but none no longer work. She probably changed her name / number and moved on as many of them do...a lot. LOL.[/QUOTE]The only Angela I remember was at 7*, but she too disappeared.
[QUOTE=Tripps;2099684]Went here once and got nothing. Not even a hint of extras. This was over a year ago though so a fresh perspective would be appreciated if you check them out.[/QUOTE]Thinking about trying them out, they are close by to my work, I have seen them putting up ads on backpage lately also.
[QUOTE=RaoulDuke;2102248]The only Angela I remember was at 7*, but she too disappeared.[/QUOTE]I'd be very happy to find out where Angela from 7* disappeared to after they closed. I lost touch. Anybody out there who may know, PM.
Move on. I'm sure she has.
[QUOTE=BenBeck;2102597]I'd be very happy to find out where Angela from 7* disappeared to after they closed. I lost touch. Anybody out there who may know, PM.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Toosweet1975;2100309]They really have nothing better else to do. But, wasn't smart right next to a day care. 24 hours service, wow.[/QUOTE]I bet daddy spent an hour there before picking up their kid.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2101758]I agree. My system is I stick to Chinese girls. I learned about 20 Chinese words and phrases. Polite things. You can make a very good impression and they remember you. If her massage is good and the girl seems nice, I ask (a) her Chinese name and (b) ask her if I can ask for her again. Then the next time, I get her phone number, and explain that I like her and don't want to lose touch if she goes somewhere else. 100% give their number and 100% text back and forth using "WeChat". Yeah, it's an investment. Only problem is I have like 6 Chinese "wives" now. A couple of them ended up working at the same place. Very tricky.[/QUOTE]I've gotten plenty of AMP girls phone numbers. I've learned their real names too. I've even ummm partaken of their favors after they left the parlor I met them at but these always come to end. I can see why a provider would be a better bet. I had a good thing for the last 4 months but it ended when she quit her parlor. I'm just nervous about providers. Part of me just thinks parlors are safer. Rather go without or work it at the bars than get busted. I wish I had your problem Bob.
I always wondered what happens to most of the girls once an AMP is closed a very few pop up again but many just fade away from the AMP scene. Any thoughts.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2101758]I agree. My system is I stick to Chinese girls. I learned about 20 Chinese words and phrases. Polite things. You can make a very good impression and they remember you. If her massage is good and the girl seems nice, I ask (a) her Chinese name and (b) ask her if I can ask for her again. Then the next time, I get her phone number, and explain that I like her and don't want to lose touch if she goes somewhere else. 100% give their number and 100% text back and forth using "WeChat". Yeah, it's an investment. Only problem is I have like 6 Chinese "wives" now. A couple of them ended up working at the same place. Very tricky.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Morrisman;2102793]I'm just nervous about providers. Part of me just thinks parlors are safer.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say Massage Parlors are Safe. Remember what just happened at the Copper Massage Parlor. Providers can be a bit Leery. But if she has Awesome Reviews you have nothing to worry about. Besides Providers tend to stay in the area alot longer than an AMP Girl.
I've found the EMP girls to be an even safer bet than the AMP ladies. How much of this is LE racism is up to debate. The advertising and store front locations for AMP's are way less UTR than the quiet, less visible offices used for EMP's.
[QUOTE=RonM;2103241]I wouldn't say Massage Parlors are Safe. Remember what just happened at the Copper Massage Parlor. Providers can be a bit Leery. But if she has Awesome Reviews you have nothing to worry about. Besides Providers tend to stay in the area alot longer than an AMP Girl.[/QUOTE]
The midday raid in McKinley Park scared the staff at the next-door day care center, where the police activity disrupted children's naptime and shook up parents who arrived to find police tape and authorities in bulletproof vests.
Noooooooooo, naptime was disrupted. It is for the children, how can we allow naptime be interrupted. So once again, about 10 cops storm a building so that a handy can be stopped.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;2103639]The midday raid in McKinley Park scared the staff at the next-door day care center, where the police activity disrupted children's naptime and shook up parents who arrived to find police tape and authorities in bulletproof vests.
Noooooooooo, naptime was disrupted. It is for the children, how can we allow naptime be interrupted. So once again, about 10 cops storm a building so that a handy can be stopped.[/QUOTE]That Raid was Ridiculous. Cops and a Swat Team bust a Massage Parlor because a Massuse allegedly offered a Sex Act? Then a Cop punches a Handcuffed Lady who was on the Ground? Really? She's going to reap Millions in a Law Suit. Giving yourself a HJ is not a Crime. But when a Girl gives you a HJ it's a Class X Felony. Doesn't make sense to me.
[QUOTE=RonM;2103641]That Raid was Ridiculous. Cops and a Swat Team bust a Massage Parlor because a Massuse allegedly offered a Sex Act? Then a Cop punches a Handcuffed Lady who was on the Ground? Really? She's going to reap Millions in a Law Suit. Giving yourself a HJ is not a Crime. But when a Girl gives you a HJ it's a Class X Felony. Doesn't make sense to me.[/QUOTE]Actually two different raids, the handcuffed woman getting hit was a northside place a year or so ago. The place near a day-care center (aren't most businesses near a day care center these days) was more recent.
I agree, heck some guys spend big $ so that GF or wife or SO, put out, what the problem is spending a little $ to get same result with some hardworking girls.
This from the article on the Mckinnley Park MP raid "In an unrelated press conference on Tuesday, authorities with federal, state and local law enforcement agencies sought to call attention to the "horrific nightmare" of Human trafficking for sex-related trade." Ya that is why they are punching them in the face and threatening to deport them in card board boxes. I have spoken to Providers in the past about how they are treated during a raid and they all say they are treated like crap. Eight cops bust in to arrest two middle aged Asian women. What a joke your tax dollars hard at work.
[QUOTE=Mrpink;2104178]This from the article on the Mckinnley Park MP raid "In an unrelated press conference on Tuesday, authorities with federal, state and local law enforcement agencies sought to call attention to the "horrific nightmare" of Human trafficking for sex-related trade." Ya that is why they are punching them in the face and threatening to deport them in card board boxes. I have spoken to Providers in the past about how they are treated during a raid and they all say they are treated like crap. Eight cops bust in to arrest two middle aged Asian women. What a joke your tax dollars hard at work.[/QUOTE]Legalizing Prostitution would get rid of the Human Traffickers and Pimps. It would make it alot safer for the Girls that want to be in this Business.
[QUOTE=Mrpink;2104178]This from the article on the Mckinnley Park MP raid "In an unrelated press conference on Tuesday, authorities with federal, state and local law enforcement agencies sought to call attention to the "horrific nightmare" of Human trafficking for sex-related trade." Ya that is why they are punching them in the face and threatening to deport them in card board boxes. I have spoken to Providers in the past about how they are treated during a raid and they all say they are treated like crap. Eight cops bust in to arrest two middle aged Asian women. What a joke your tax dollars hard at work.[/QUOTE]Please note that I am vehemently opposed to human trafficking but please know that trafficking is just a buzz word used nowadays to impose severe punishments upon sexworkers who are arrested. I'd venture a guess and say that 99% of women in this business are here by either by choice or poor choices that led them here. They are absolutely not trafficked, and it sickens me to see our rights, as working girls and as clients, chipped away little by little under the guise of rescuing these poor prostitutes. When I was busted, there was SIX (officers who attended the arrest, not one of them being a female. I was treated like a mass murderer, yet I've never even had a traffic citation, much less a previous arrest or conviction record. I had horrific flashbacks for a very long time. To this day, I am disgusted by the CPD, how I was treated and how the judicial system victimizes and punishes sexworkers. I'm glad you gentlemen are wise to the BS going on behind the scenes.
[QUOTE=BerticalBlinds;2104251]Please note that I am vehemently opposed to human trafficking but please know that trafficking is just a buzz word used nowadays to impose severe punishments upon sexworkers who are arrested. I'd venture a guess and say that 99% of women in this business are here by either by choice or poor choices that led them here. They are absolutely not trafficked, and it sickens me to see our rights, as working girls and as clients, chipped away little by little under the guise of rescuing these poor prostitutes. When I was busted, there was SIX (officers who attended the arrest, not one of them being a female. I was treated like a mass murderer, yet I've never even had a traffic citation, much less a previous arrest or conviction record. I had horrific flashbacks for a very long time. To this day, I am disgusted by the CPD, how I was treated and how the judicial system victimizes and punishes sexworkers. I'm glad you gentlemen are wise to the BS going on behind the scenes.[/QUOTE]I hope things are going well for you and I bet your inbox is full.
[QUOTE=RonM;2104197]Legalizing Prostitution would get rid of the Human Traffickers and Pimps. It would make it alot safer for the Girls that want to be in this Business.[/QUOTE]I don't think decriminalizing prostitution will get rid of human traffickers or pimps. Granted, it may curb some of it but not get rid of it altogether. People are trafficked for "legit" businesses now.
I agree with your second statement.
[QUOTE=Mrpink;2104178]This from the article on the Mckinnley Park MP raid "In an unrelated press conference on Tuesday, authorities with federal, state and local law enforcement agencies sought to call attention to the "horrific nightmare" of Human trafficking for sex-related trade." Ya that is why they are punching them in the face and threatening to deport them in card board boxes. I have spoken to Providers in the past about how they are treated during a raid and they all say they are treated like crap. Eight cops bust in to arrest two middle aged Asian women. What a joke your tax dollars hard at work.[/QUOTE]Where is "Mckinnley Park".
[QUOTE=Humpfree;2104809]Where is "Mckinnley Park".[/QUOTE]It's the triangle formed by Ashland, Archer and 35th. There are a couple more such places, run by Chinese.
I can't say for sure, but among the ladies I know well, most have a kid and are widowed or divorced. They all seem to be learning English since that is a key to success in this country (IMO). In a creepy sort of way, they are trying for the "American dream". The ones I've kept in touch with, seem to be reaching their goals. English, a car, an apartment. Can't say that is a scientific survey, probably, I just like the women that still have hopes and dreams. The others. I lose contact with.
[QUOTE=NorthsideTod2;2103067]I always wondered what happens to most of the girls once an AMP is closed a very few pop up again but many just fade away from the AMP scene. Any thoughts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bob521;2105104]I can't say for sure, but among the ladies I know well, most have a kid and are widowed or divorced. They all seem to be learning English since that is a key to success in this country (IMO). In a creepy sort of way, they are trying for the "American dream". The ones I've kept in touch with, seem to be reaching their goals. English, a car, an apartment. Can't say that is a scientific survey, probably, I just like the women that still have hopes and dreams. The others. I lose contact with.[/QUOTE]With the Big Money you guys spend at these AMP's it doesn't surprise me that these Girls can afford a Car and an Apartment. Heck probably a Condo in Northbrook or a Mansion in Glencoe. LOL...
I had a great massage at Mercy on Michigan, and then again in Chinatown. A great time...
Wow, I'm glad to read your thoughts here and want you to know I am a Libertarian who believes that prostitution should be legalized with rights to workers and protection for their customers safety. That said, I do know for a fact that many, many, if not most of the foreign gals who come to the states have large loans to be repaid before they can go "on their own". Many of these gals may be agreeable to the work but many are taken advantage of as well.
I hope you are doing well and just wish our citizens would demand better of politicians.
Stay safe, Daz\.
[QUOTE=BerticalBlinds;2104251]Please note that I am vehemently opposed to human trafficking but please know that trafficking is just a buzz word used nowadays to impose severe punishments upon sexworkers who are arrested. I'd venture a guess and say that 99% of women in this business are here by either by choice or poor choices that led them here. They are absolutely not trafficked, and it sickens me to see our rights, as working girls and as clients, chipped away little by little under the guise of rescuing these poor prostitutes. When I was busted, there was SIX (officers who attended the arrest, not one of them being a female. I was treated like a mass murderer, yet I've never even had a traffic citation, much less a previous arrest or conviction record. I had horrific flashbacks for a very long time. To this day, I am disgusted by the CPD, how I was treated and how the judicial system victimizes and punishes sexworkers. I'm glad you gentlemen are wise to the BS going on behind the scenes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BerticalBlinds;2104251]Please note that I am vehemently opposed to human trafficking but please know that trafficking is just a buzz word used nowadays to impose severe punishments upon sexworkers who are arrested. I'd venture a guess and say that 99% of women in this business are here by either by choice or poor choices that led them here. They are absolutely not trafficked, and it sickens me to see our rights, as working girls and as clients, chipped away little by little under the guise of rescuing these poor prostitutes. When I was busted, there was SIX (officers who attended the arrest, not one of them being a female. I was treated like a mass murderer, yet I've never even had a traffic citation, much less a previous arrest or conviction record. I had horrific flashbacks for a very long time. To this day, I am disgusted by the CPD, how I was treated and how the judicial system victimizes and punishes sexworkers. I'm glad you gentlemen are wise to the BS going on behind the scenes.[/QUOTE]I don't believe your first post and I don't believe this one either.
IMHO.
[QUOTE=RonM;2105422]With the Big Money you guys spend at these AMP's it doesn't surprise me that these Girls can afford a Car and an Apartment. Heck probably a Condo in Northbrook or a Mansion in Glencoe. LOL...[/QUOTE]You are correct Ron.
Of the 4 or 5 I have known very well outside of their AMPs they all made well over 100 K a year with 2 of them approaching 150 K. They all made so much money that they actually had problems trying to hide it all from the IRS...LOL.
They all worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week and maybe took 1 day a month off for shopping. Do the math, 5 customers a day at half the door fee plus the full 40 or 60 tip and your making 125 K and not paying any taxes. If they work in a busy AMP and do more than 5, make even more.
Like they say, "no honey no money"LOL.
[QUOTE=Dazhiba;2106105]Wow, I'm glad to read your thoughts here and want you to know I am a Libertarian who believes that prostitution should be legalized with rights to workers and protection for their customers safety. I hope you are doing well and just wish our citizens would demand better of politicians.
Stay safe, Daz\.[/QUOTE]I agree with Legalizing Prostitution with Legal Rights and Protections for the Girls and Clients.
Demand better of our Politicians? Easier said than done. Most are probably Sex Fiends themselves.
I was surprised they get 50 percent of the door fee. I assumed the owner tried to get piece of the tips.
So a good AMP might make more than an owner a small shop.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2106210]You are correct Ron.
Of the 4 or 5 I have known very well outside of their AMPs they all made well over 100 K a year with 2 of them approaching 150 K. They all made so much money that they actually had problems trying to hide it all from the IRS...LOL.
They all worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week and maybe took 1 day a month off for shopping. Do the math, 5 customers a day at half the door fee plus the full 40 or 60 tip and your making 125 K and not paying any taxes. If they work in a busy AMP and do more than 5, make even more.
Like they say, "no honey no money"LOL.[/QUOTE]
A lot of the girls tell me they don't get a piece of the door fee so this is good if they do.
[QUOTE=NorthsideTod2;2106612]I was surprised they get 50 percent of the door fee. I assumed the owner tried to get piece of the tips.
So a good AMP might make more than an owner a small shop.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2106210]You are correct Ron.
Of the 4 or 5 I have known very well outside of their AMPs they all made well over 100 K a year with 2 of them approaching 150 K. They all made so much money that they actually had problems trying to hide it all from the IRS...LOL.
They all worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week and maybe took 1 day a month off for shopping. Do the math, 5 customers a day at half the door fee plus the full 40 or 60 tip and your making 125 K and not paying any taxes. If they work in a busy AMP and do more than 5, make even more.
Like they say, "no honey no money"LOL.[/QUOTE]Asian Girls attract alot of attention from most guys. (me not being one of them) It doesn't surprise me these Asian Massage Girls (or "Grandmas" as they are commonly called on this board. LOL..) are making lots of Tax Free Cash.
The "No Honey No Money" saying applies to All Women. Civies and Providers.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2106777]A lot of the girls tell me they don't get a piece of the door fee so this is good if they do.[/QUOTE]All the ones I know get some % of the Door. Maybe 1/2 or maybe less.
I think the legit ones get a lower %.
[QUOTE=RonM;2106861]Asian Girls attract alot of attention from most guys. (me not being one of them) It doesn't surprise me these Asian Massage Girls (or "Grandmas" as they are commonly called on this board. LOL..) are making lots of Tax Free Cash.
The "No Honey No Money" saying applies to All Women. Civies and Providers.[/QUOTE]"Applies to all women"How true...LOL.
[QUOTE=NorthsideTod2;2106612]I was surprised they get 50 percent of the door fee. I assumed the owner tried to get piece of the tips.
So a good AMP might make more than an owner a small shop.[/QUOTE]Some get 50%,some get less. Depends on the deal with the owner.
Figure it out. If the door fee is $60 and the owner gets half and they have 30 customers a day (and many AMP's do more) 7 days a week 365 days a year, that's about $330,000 just to the owner at 50% of the door fee. At 40 customers a day that's $438,000 a year. Not bad for a neon sign, 3-4 private rooms, a few massage tables and some towels.
Does this give you any idea of why so many new AMP's are opening up?
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2106777]A lot of the girls tell me they don't get a piece of the door fee so this is good if they do.[/QUOTE]The door fee split varies. For example, at the Mercy on Michigan Ave, the girls get $25 from the $65 door fee. But I heard from enough girls that they don't get anything that I tend to believe them. Those are actually the places you want to visit as girls are more likely to offer extras. But be careful with upsellings though. Know the standard donations before you go and stand firm.