Same experience with Kaylani
[QUOTE=Carx16;6548388]Yes, I been in the VIP with her awhile back and she talks a big game but I was disappointed overall with the experience. I first had a dance with her to get the vibe and she was very flirty and friendly. So I question about the VIP and she said $$ for us to have "a lot of fun". This was my fault for not asking what exactly "fun" was because I was enjoying what I thought was a good vibe. So we got the $120 VIP option and started to get friendly. She grab my guy and went for a HJ and started teasing for a BJ but then told me its $ more and $$ total for FS. I guess I got too comfortable with the club and ignored clarifying the terms beforehand because previous girls who mention their standard price usually includes BJ + FS. I was complete turn off by the up sell that I only tipped her the $ for the HJ and ended my VIP relatively early. I later got a VIP with VIKKI which I knew would be a guarantee good time.
Hopefully your experience fairs better than mine with her. Best of luck to ya.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience with Kaylani. So I negotiate when I'm getting a dance and she tells me it's $$ for fun in the VIP. Then once we're in the VIP she tells me it's only for a HJ. I was so pissed. Every other girls it means FS. This girl had the audacity to ask me to come back. I could've stayed at home and saved myself money.
Another reason why negotiating in the VIP is a bad idea
[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6548913]Looks like when we get bamboozled / robbed / jacked of our hard-earned money, general trend is because we don't negotiate out on the floor. Floor meaning, the general viewing area facing the stage.
Once you're in the back you have lost ALL LEVERAGE. You're already in 'Sunk-Cost Fallacy' meaning you've already paid for the VIP and now at the mercy of the dancer and what she wants to charge. The little head speaks for the big head. Sure you've enjoyed yourself, but on that long drive back home you're just counting all the money that could've been saved towards your mortgage / rent / car payment / junior's new baseball glove.
I can't emphasize this enough, boys.
DO YOUR NEGOTIATING ON THE FLOOR! Particularly with girls you have no rapport with / girls you've never danced with prior. Know exactly what you're receiving as the customer, what the dancer is doing as a provider, and the exact amount of money / cash / green / paper / duckets / lettuce / bread / skrill / moolah involved between both parties. Do this before even standing up to go pay for the VIP. Trust me, it hurts a lot more thinking about the money you lost than it is when you see her walk away dissatisfied with the price you want.
I'm at a point where I have a rotation of enjoyable dancers where we both know what's up and don't need to negotiate. If I'm bored or a newbie catches my eye, I'll revert to the above tip. If you got the looks and / or skills to negotiate in the VIP, roll the dice.
I'm of the opinion any dancer could charge whatever she wants (Freedom of Choice). I'm also of the opinion that any customer can say yes / no / negotiate (Freedom of Choice.).[/QUOTE]I've had the dancer use majority of VIP time before negotiating for extras. I made this mistake once and never again. Beware out there fellas. They are ruthless.