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[QUOTE=ManDownUnder;5183659]I learned a lot from reading this forum (thank you), so I thought I would share my M&G experience. It's been a shit ton of work to get my first 10 meetings, here's how they went.

1 - drinks, back to my place, fun was had, already seen again.

2 - coffee, made mistake of picking Starbucks, no seating. She was cool going to my place, fun was had, already seen again.

3 - drinks, WYP $100 first date incentive, have one drink then she says she has plans, we leave together and part ways, later that night she texts me that I forgot to give her the first date incentive, LOL. Blocked.

4 - dinner, I get to restaurant and she ghosts me. I hit her up for gas $, crickets.

5 - drinks, she says she wants to get to know me first. Dinner following week. She says still not ready but will have fun next time. Set next date, we'll see, maybe she's just looking for free meals. She's funny as shit, so I don't really care either way.

6 - drinks. I had 2 beers, she sucks down a cocktail, martini and 2 tequila shots. OMG. Back to my place, more shots, crazy fun was had. She said she had great time and I can contribute $50 less going forward, I'm good with that!

7 - drinks, back to my place for dinner. Made out like teenagers, but it was already pretty late and she had early meet. She agreed to fun next time. I made clear before meet no fun, no sugar, so no amount given and was happy she didn't ask. Working on setting 2nd meet.

8 - coffee, could tell she was a newbie based on profile and texting, but when she shows up to M&G with a friend, give me a break. Next day she's asks for Uber money, LOL. Not spending my time with newbies anymore (2 other newbies I chatted with, didn't meet, just endless texting).

9 - no M&G, she agrees to come directly to my place, fun was had, but it really wasn't that fun.

10 - no M&G, she agrees to come directly to my place, fun was had and this one was fun.

While it's a lot of work, and outcome uncertain, I find this so much better than escorts.

[blue]If no sugar is given unless fun is had they are escorts. Simple as that. Call them what you want when you are with them if it gets them to fuck you without bullshit for compensation but between us men let us be truthful.

If a chick won't fuck you unless she's getting paid she's a hooker, end of.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]How the heck have you gotten to this point? I've been trying for month's, and end up with nothing but one dead end after another. LOL. I'm just about ready to throw in the towel when my membership runs out! I'd be happy with just one or two of what you have experienced.

[QUOTE=DpmSaturn14;5186087]How the heck have you gotten to this point? I've been trying for month's, and end up with nothing but one dead end after another. LOL. I'm just about ready to throw in the towel when my membership runs out! I'd be happy with just one or two of what you have experienced.[/QUOTE]As I said it was a ton of work. Probably 35 offline conversations yielded 10 girls that agreed to meet, 5 ended in bed, 3 duds and 2 in process.

Based on my experience so far (one month in), this is in-between seeing an escort and having a girlfriend. My approach (based on what I've read in this forum) is to treat the girl like they are your girlfriend. In return, the good ones will make you feel like she is your girlfriend (no delusions, I realize they are there for the $. None have asked for contribution up front, where as most escorts I've been with want $ up front. Escorts typically watch the clock, and I always feel pressured to finish within the specified time. None of my successes watched the clock. One went for 3 hours. My #9, ironically, the prettiest with a rocking body, I didn't like at all because she made me feel like she didn't want to be there.

I would say on average the girls I've seen have had a very pretty face (7/8), but could lose a few pounds (body 6/7). I realize that if I target higher quality, my success rate will be much lower or probably cost more.

[QUOTE=WCFields62;5185464]Too bad her age limit is 51.[/QUOTE]No girl will ever ask to see I'd to verify your age. If the pics on your profile are reasonably accurate, you should be good to go. I asked one girl that I was a few years above her range, she said no problem.

[QUOTE=DpmSaturn14;5186087]How the heck have you gotten to this point? I've been trying for month's, and end up with nothing but one dead end after another. LOL. I'm just about ready to throw in the towel when my membership runs out! I'd be happy with just one or two of what you have experienced.[/QUOTE]You have to have an approach (game they call it) that works for them.

What is your initial message? What do you say -- let me know and I'll give you my impression.

There are a ton of women on SA who don't intend to meet; they could be gift scammers, money up front scammers, or just people who are bored and chat up men for the fun of it. But it definitely can work. I've always had good success although it can be a bit of work. I tend to get bored with most of them, so I'm usually looking for the next. I've been seeing my current SB for a little over 3 months and still very hot for her so so far so good.

[QUOTE=ManDownUnder;5183659]I learned a lot from reading this forum (thank you), so I thought I would share my M&G experience. It's been a shit ton of work to get my first 10 meetings, here's how they went.

1 - drinks, back to my place, fun was had, already seen again.

2 - coffee, made mistake of picking Starbucks, no seating. She was cool going to my place, fun was had, already seen again.

3 - drinks, WYP $100 first date incentive, have one drink then she says she has plans, we leave together and part ways, later that night she texts me that I forgot to give her the first date incentive, LOL. Blocked.

4 - dinner, I get to restaurant and she ghosts me. I hit her up for gas $, crickets.

5 - drinks, she says she wants to get to know me first. Dinner following week. She says still not ready but will have fun next time. Set next date, we'll see, maybe she's just looking for free meals. She's funny as shit, so I don't really care either way.

6 - drinks. I had 2 beers, she sucks down a cocktail, martini and 2 tequila shots. OMG. Back to my place, more shots, crazy fun was had. She said she had great time and I can contribute $50 less going forward, I'm good with that!

7 - drinks, back to my place for dinner. Made out like teenagers, but it was already pretty late and she had early meet. She agreed to fun next time. I made clear before meet no fun, no sugar, so no amount given and was happy she didn't ask. Working on setting 2nd meet.[/QUOTE]I am happy you had great times. But beside reading your adventures. I don't see any valuable info here. Give us names, links, things that can be helpful for us. I am not trying to be an ass but I feel that needed to be said.

[QUOTE=ManDownUnder;5186673]As I said it was a ton of work. Probably 35 offline conversations yielded 10 girls that agreed to meet, 5 ended in bed, 3 duds and 2 in process.

Based on my experience so far (one month in), this is in-between seeing an escort and having a girlfriend. My approach (based on what I've read in this forum) is to treat the girl like they are your girlfriend. In return, the good ones will make you feel like she is your girlfriend (no delusions, I realize they are there for the $. None have asked for contribution up front, where as most escorts I've been with want $ up front. Escorts typically watch the clock, and I always feel pressured to finish within the specified time. None of my successes watched the clock. One went for 3 hours. My #9, ironically, the prettiest with a rocking body, I didn't like at all because she made me feel like she didn't want to be there.

I would say on average the girls I've seen have had a very pretty face (7/8), but could lose a few pounds (body 6/7). I realize that if I target higher quality, my success rate will be much lower or probably cost more.[/QUOTE]This is pretty much spot on for success. Understanding the girls are not escorts or don't want to be treated as such anyway is key. I agree with having a targeted group regarding age, beauty, body type that gives you what you need but doesn't turn you off. I prefer under 27-28 but struggle to really connect with the 18-19 you. I love the 23 yo's as they are usually aware of what this is about and many are sick of the "boys" treating them shitty. I just closed out with an 18 yo I got as a rookie to this action because she kept asking for more money and was hard to really have a real conversation. The sex was great, for me anyway, but like Bran mentioned you can get bored if you don't have the right match. I'm over 60 and in decent shape so I list my age a little younger than actual as some of the girls feel really weird about doing over 60 yo dudes. I'm hanging on for a little longer as these young hotties do a body good. The key to my success has been that them good, promote them and be reliable and not a freak. Most of my arrangements last for several months and the girls really start to get kinky as they get warmed up to the deal. You need to know how to read the room and make sure you can converse with them on their level not their grandfathers.

[QUOTE=JoeParkers;5187706]I am happy you had great times. But beside reading your adventures. I don't see any valuable info here. Give us names, links, things that can be helpful for us. I am not trying to be an ass but I feel that needed to be said.[/QUOTE]I think it's worth commenting on the "names" thing. For the type of woman I look for, she would NOT want to be "reviewed" and absent her doing something really untoward, betraying trust, etc. , I'd not post who I was seeing even after it ended. I'd feel it violated their trust. But those who ask for what I think is silly money, or who flake, are pro's with escort ads, or who bait and switch; I'll post a link.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d3597c30-5bf6-4911-83c1-32a9b2df8d39[/URL] Google her and you'll see she's an adult film star or as she put it mattress actress. I imagine her rate will be high so probably be a one and done.

I should have a few reviews this week or next. The arrangements I had I let one go but then one vanished, I think she was just on for holiday help and the 3rd thought I was avoiding her when I was really quarantining for 2 weeks but she got mad & moved on. Nice girl has a cum fetish, I'll probably post about her. I think I have a few that might work really well for me including a 30 year old mom from NH that comes down to Boston for 2 days a week for her job. We did a vid call & she pointed out if the connection is there and I get a hotel, it means she doesn't have to pay for the hotel herself & she gets to spend the entire night with a man she can have fun with & get some money for it. So that works great for me.

[QUOTE=BigStu;5188514][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d3597c30-5bf6-4911-83c1-32a9b2df8d39[/URL] Google her and you'll see she's an adult film star or as she put it mattress actress. I imagine her rate will be high so probably be a one and done.

I should have a few reviews this week or next. The arrangements I had I let one go but then one vanished, I think she was just on for holiday help and the 3rd thought I was avoiding her when I was really quarantining for 2 weeks but she got mad & moved on. Nice girl has a cum fetish, I'll probably post about her. I think I have a few that might work really well for me including a 30 year old mom from NH that comes down to Boston for 2 days a week for her job. We did a vid call & she pointed out if the connection is there and I get a hotel, it means she doesn't have to pay for the hotel herself & she gets to spend the entire night with a man she can have fun with & get some money for it. So that works great for me.[/QUOTE]Saw posts about her a few years ago. She wanted 1000 per meet or something in that range.

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[QUOTE=BR1201;5189207]Saw posts about her a few years ago. She wanted 1000 per meet or something in that range.[/QUOTE]My current SB was intrigued so I sent her a message on SA; no response yet.

[QUOTE=Bran001;5189929]My current SB was intrigued so I sent her a message on SA; no response yet.[/QUOTE]Classic. "My time is very valuable. I expect compensation for our first (platonic) meeting. I don’t have time to have coffee with every Tom dick and Harry on here". We have a winner!

[QUOTE=Bran001;5189938] We have a winner![/QUOTE]The response I got was that she is looking for a "very wealthy" man. On the bright side her movie clips were pretty good, nice angles and she takes it like a champ.

[QUOTE=Bran001;5189938]Classic. "My time is very valuable. I expect compensation for our first (platonic) meeting. I dont have time to have coffee with every Tom dick and Harry on here". We have a winner![/QUOTE]Wow. I would've wrote back to told her to go screw herself and look elsewhere. I guess you do act and say things like that when you receive hundreds of messages from guys with one liners or worse.

Has anyone had this issue? This has happened to me once before. Exactly at 50% into the time of the subscription, they cancelled my account stating that I solicited sex. I never did a nything like that on the site. And this happened again this month, my 2nd subscription. Not once did I mention sex or anything, all I said is I am looking for a companion. And suddenly in exactly 2 weeks, I get it cancelled. Any thoughts?