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[QUOTE=KGirlSavant;7181578]And this is why the rates are all jacked up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ZebraZebra;7181659]Honey is hot, looks young, and has great service and attitude. Bbfscip.

Yes she was non upcharge in the bay but this ain't the bay.

You should be complaining about 600 girls that charge 200 for BBFS and no cip.[/QUOTE]While it just sucks that Honey / Aelin didn't come in at an all in price given her rates in the BA, she and whoever she talked with about pricing structure was level headed enough to go with the "normal" LA rates, even if it is on the high end. We'll just have to see how that strategy works out for her. From what I've heard she plans to stay here a good while so there may be a chance she'll reduce her rate at some point in time in the future. It's happened before to others.

If you want to point fingers for the price increases, at least point it in the right direction. This trend can easily be laid at the foot of SBC and their girls. They started it and the ripple effect is beginning to manifest into a large wave from what I'm seeing. Before, it use to be that HYA and stellar service providers were rewarded with a stream of constant business at the cost of staying in line with the prevailing donation rates. Now it's more about how much to squeeze money out of mongers in the shortest amount time and working the least amount before bailing. As long as people are willing to see these types of girls, the trend will continue.

Zebra, are you saying that if a Freesia level girl popped up at 600+200 with CIP, you won't complain? Or 600 all in?

I think it's better for all of us to ignore girls that are above 350. We've all acclimated or for most us, resigned ourselves, to the upcharges. Let's not make 400/500/600 become the next baseline. I'm just not very confident in people seeing that it's a viable counter to it though. However, look at Britney and Lani and Mocha before them as proof of concept.

[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7180802]300 in an area with a higher cost of living vs 450 all-in means the bosses here are overcharging LA mongers big time because a FOB will not know the market rates and will go with what the boss tells her. We are getting f*ked in more ways than one.[/QUOTE]Once again, we are talking about North vs South, LOL.

The only way to solve this ridiculous price gauging is to stop seeing those who are ripping you off just because you are in L. A.

This is an age old topic that always come up.

You live you learn and that's years of mongering I learn.

Up charge never made up the quality for me in terms of either look or service, it's up to the girls who think they are worth, and when shit doesn't work out, they lower the price.

You can only fool a customer once.

[QUOTE=CreamInside;7180963]Looks like she is back starting today with all in BBFS pricing via CGLA but I hear she is only in town for a short stay.

[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/phoebe[/URL][/QUOTE]Saw her on her last short stay, got lucky.

She is still banging hot vs all ajumah out there, tight body and plastic fuck doll.

I last donated 350 all in so for what it worth this round.

[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7181712]

Zebra, are you saying that if a Freesia level girl popped up at 600+200 with CIP, you won't complain? Or 600 all in?

[/QUOTE]I wouldn't complain if she's Freesia level. Even if it was no CIP I wouldn't complain. But if anyone did complain, I agree, they should be directed at those charging insane prices.

I myself have seen almost all the SBC girls, Freesia, Peony, Celine, Iris, Poppy, Amelia, Dahlia.

I don't mind high prices for extra hot girls, but I am very unlikely to repeat. Out of those girls listed, only Freesia, Celine, Amelia, Poppy were worth seeing, and in that ranking order.

Dahlia was the biggest disappointment ever. I don't know what they were thinking, she's 350 max.

This week alone I have seen 5 girls and half of them were mid but I won't complain because their rates aren't insane.

Ravi, Sohee, Britney, were all decent. Honey is my new favorite. Nali is still the GOAT. 🐐Until Ina comes back haha.

[QUOTE=PumpNDump;7181364]The increase in prices and upcharging for services are the result of the greedy hoe syndrome of the girls. The bookers do not set prices or test market conditions of prices. For some goddamn reason the owners of the operations is allowing the girls to set the price. As we are well aware of some of these girls are just insane demanding the rate they set or setting up no msog conditions. If people are serious about how pissed they are about the prices stop visiting those girls and cripple them financially so they starve and come down their high slot.[/QUOTE]Complaining every week on the forum isn't going to do anything. Stop over hyping the HYA hoes and vote with your wallets. I noticed the girls who tried to charge $600 in LA have since moved to OC so it looks like LA mongers aren't giving in to those prices for the most part.

[QUOTE=Phazze93;7181182]You are right about one thing, I don't TOFTT.

I'm too particular & risk adverse to roll the dice.

So I do appreciate those of you that do TOFTT. Cheers.

Private monger groups, buddies, forums. People aren't exactly swearing blood oaths or signing NDAs.

Short of you keeping a detail to yourself, if its out, its out.

Unless a girl, booker or boss is going to publicly come out and provide insight, its all speculation.

But alas, they won't. They'll just lurk on this forum and post from burner accounts.

To reiterate, I did say to take everything here with a grain of salt. Including what I say.

I honestly thought Remi was 40+ before I saw what I saw. Who knows, it coulda been a fake.

I also thought Ina was nearing 40 but supposedly she's younger. So yea, who knows.

Age perception is so subjective, but perhaps I'm more sensitive to it as I'm on the younger side and Asian.

Going back to why I don't TOFTT as there are likely more kgirls older than me than those that are younger than me.

My original (recent) post after my long absence from this thread was simply to share intel I've come across during my time in this scene.

Also, in response to the random / inaccurate response that Ina got whaled up.

While I couldn't care less about a providers personal motivations / decisions about entering into this profession. I do still have a heart.

So I am morally conflicted as I'm sure others mongers are as well when there is a lack of choice and a strong hint of coercion.

COERCION on the part of the SSG / SKS & that wild beast of a boss.

This wasn't some recent epiphany.

I've just happen to witness & come across too much feedback from non-overlapping sources to not believe it to be true.

Some of which is irrefutable, some of which is speculative.

There's a good reason they're down to 1-2 girls.

My point being, I'm not here because I have an axe to grind.

Just to share some thoughts that some others might find relevant.

This is Walter Cronkite signing out.[/QUOTE]As I have said many times already, Ina is not available because the boss at SSG made such a stink after discovering her primary moneymaker could no longer bear her tyrannical bullshit and so flew her coop in WLA. However, that boss made it so very uncomfortable for the other boss once mongers let her know Ina was Miranee that she was pushed out of the korg in order to keep harmony between the 2 orgs.

[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7177858]Has anyone else enjoyed Yona's torpedo tits? All I see are sessanggirls being talked about here. Just create a thread for them and talk with your various aliases there.[/QUOTE]Bro. Post some comparable photo examples of Yonas torpedo tit's. You got us curious now what they look like.

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[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7181765]As I have said many times already, Ina is not available because the boss at SSG made such a stink after discovering her primary moneymaker could no longer bear her tyrannical bullshit and so flew her coop in WLA. However, that boss made it so very uncomfortable for the other boss once mongers let her know Ina was Miranee that she was pushed out of the korg in order to keep harmony between the 2 orgs.[/QUOTE]If you want to know the truth just ask the booker. If you don't know the truth don't come and spread hearsay on public channels. I asked politely what happened because of the rumors on the board and the booker seemed appalled at the lies being spread. I'm going to keep it short but what seemed to happen with Ina involved an pretty illegal act performed by her where she was involved with a friend and an immigration lawyer that she I guess screwed over. The lawyer is apparently angry because the lawyer herself is now being investigated by immigration officials. So I guess now US immigration official are on a hunt for the both girls. I guess this lawyer also knows about Korean agencies now and is on the hunt for her in LA to save her ass it seems. The lawyer found out she was a ho and is demanding info on their whereabouts or she was going to start reporting agencies to the officials. The booker allowed me to post this information. Ask them if you want more info, this is all I have to share. You bros really should do your homework FYI, now is not the time to mess with ICE and have them digging. Ill stick to my secretive underground brothels and street hookers for now. Dont forget the tit and ass paradise south of the border.

[QUOTE=Thud1;7181866]Bro. Post some comparable photo examples of Yonas torpedo tit's. You got us curious now what they look like.[/QUOTE]This brings back memories. Before Hana's new tit job, when she would be in DG, she would have torpedo tits. That is the only other example I know. Miss having that NorCal and SoCal legend around.

[QUOTE=KGirlSavant;7181578]And this is why the rates are all jacked up.[/QUOTE]The rates are jacked up because of the multiple booker system and how bookers are actually the owners. The bookers in LA are said to earn 3-4 times more then bookers in NorCal. NorCal bookers are exclusive and loyal to their agency. There are 1-2 agencies where the booker is also their boss but most seems to work with a booker-boss relationship, similar to what you saw in the Boston case.

This system seems to work because the agencies have control over their rates and they all seems to work together on pricing. From what I remember, and this was some years ago when I used to be friendly with the long time OG booker Joanne, is that they make a pretty low rate so the overall fees in NorCal are also less. Everyone knows Joanne and her honestly. The NorCal bosses also seems to have full control. LSC bosses is a former service queen who I had the pleasure of taking for a spin, she is known to blow up a mongers phone if you overstay. Since she knows some of us mongers personally from banging us in the past, she isn't afraid to call us out. You dont want to get banned from LSC, because its likely forever unless you can get passed their vigorously screening where they legit check your real credentials. I think I slept with about 70% of NorCal owners. Viola, Caras, BGC, LSC, LKS, and SA are run by the most notable former kgirls. All of this is pretty known in NorCal IYKYK.

If you want to drop the upcharge, just stop supporting it. Trust me they will lower their rates and still make bread. For instance, LSC Aelia. There are rumors she is a some drama so might not be around long but if you dont support her new rates as Honey, shell soon drop in the no upcharge category. However we must remember, this is a board made of less then 10 percent of Ho consumers. I was one of the first to condemn OG Jamies upcharge movement. Most bros were just blinded by the talent that came from NorCal. The damage is done. We NorCal bros took our countless turns at her when she was 220 all in. What are rates today? They were nearing 500 at one point.

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[QUOTE=GoldDust58;7181988]
This system seems to work because the agencies have control over their rates and they all seems to work together on pricing.[/QUOTE]And herein lies the issue for LA. A couple of agency bosses are no longer playing ball with rest and going with the implicit structure of pricing in LA. They've gone rogue with the excuse that the girls set the pricing. This has never been the case before.

Yes, bookers in OC / LA have demanded more and rates have reflected that. Hence the price creep you see in recent years. However, now certain bosses want to capitalize on this and push the envelope even further.

[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7182053]And herein lies the issue for LA. A couple of agency bosses are no longer playing ball with rest and going with the implicit structure of pricing in LA. They've gone rogue with the excuse that the girls set the pricing. This has never been the case before.

Yes, bookers in OC / LA have demanded more and rates have reflected that. Hence the price creep you see in recent years. However, now certain bosses want to capitalize on this and push the envelope even further.[/QUOTE]While I agree with this all, I don't think you realize that a lot falls on the hoes too. No ho is that innocent and I've been involved with a white ho too before to know there isn't much different between white or Asian ho. A ho is a ho. I think kgirls and their booker or bosses are pushing our threshold together. There is a NorCal agency, from LA, that is charging mongers 350 and has already pulled a semi-popular kgirl from another org where she wss charging 300 just a week pior.

From my understanding of what some of the non upcharge girls have told me, they pay out a set fee to both house and booker, which is reasonable. My big tit source said that when she spoke to upcharge houses while looking to make more money, some offered a reasonable payout while some bookers wanted a high pay out. But still she kept most of the upcharge fees. It was only 20-40 more fees than up charge houses. The girls are making the majority of the money she said. Bros don't let them bullshit you. Now I don't think the bookers and bosses or any less innocent. I think they are harboring an environment where they welcome girls asking for higher rates and have built a demand around that with their customer base. I agree with you that in these cases, they are advertising the higher rates to entice girls to come there. They want to see how much we are willing to pay in order to secure high end kgirls and some will support that.

The only solution is to not support it yourself. Plain and simple. And if you choose to support it, so be it. It's your money, do as you please. Girls in other cities will often give you free BBFS even with the advertised upcharge rates. I have two buddies that come to LA and don't pay upcharge with the girls they saw previously in NorCal. They have told them the upcharge only went to themselves so they waived the fee. Hell there is an upcharge girl that never charged me either in Mid Wilshire. I will not name her, it was our agreement only.

[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7181765]As I have said many times already, Ina is not available because the boss at SSG made such a stink after discovering her primary moneymaker could no longer bear her tyrannical bullshit and so flew her coop in WLA. However, that boss made it so very uncomfortable for the other boss once mongers let her know Ina was Miranee that she was pushed out of the korg in order to keep harmony between the 2 orgs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoldDust58;7181962]If you want to know the truth just ask the booker. If you don't know the truth don't come and spread hearsay on public channels. I asked politely what happened because of the rumors on the board and the booker seemed appalled at the lies being spread...[/QUOTE]I try to avoid kgirl drama as much as possible because it's just added stress to something I don't want or need. I just want to enjoy an hour of fun with a nice girl, get my pop or two off, talk about useless shit, maybe even get a decent massage out of it. I leave fulfilled and I'm ready to deal with reality until the next appointment.

What both of you are saying could be true or not. Hearsay from both the girl and booker is always a possibility. In addition, neither of you were active participants in what transpired, whatever it may be. So we're still in a he said she said situation.

I can only speak from my own experience. I never encountered the problems some people post about SSG outside the occasional silence / no response. As for Ina / Miranee, she's a silly fun girl that's DTF and sounds half drunk most of the time but very much good natured. She's not once mentioned her troubles with SSG but neither did I ask about it. All I saw was that during the whole WLA purge, she came back as Miranee for a few weeks and then poof. Sure, the rebrand struck me as odd considering how popular and busy she was. Then I see she got whaled up. Wait, no, she's a damsel in distress under the tyranny of SSG and finally decided to leave. Hold on, no, she's done some illegal shit and now on the run from Immigration.

I'm not going to invest my time and energy to figure out which one of those three or maybe none of them are true.