Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Willow1535;4747337]I try not to watch any of the cable "news" shows and choose to read / research things for myself. I also stay away from Facebook and Twitter as well. I only discuss politics with my friends. Some tend to lean one way or the other, but that doesn't bother me. I can't deal with people who are entrenched and stuck in that mode where they think that "their side" is superior. I consider myself to be a Libertarian. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats in the past and will continue to base my decisions on the issues, rather than vote along party lines.

I think that we should all have to pass a test (civics, political science, math, etc,) before you can vote. Maybe even spelling! Everyone should be able to vote, but you should have a clue on how our government works[/QUOTE]If that is a requirement, how will the Dems get the dead folks to vote? LOL.

[QUOTE=Willow1535;4747337]I think that we should all have to pass a test (civics, political science, math, etc,) before you can vote. Maybe even spelling! Everyone should be able to vote, but you should have a clue on how our government works.[/QUOTE]I've always said the same thing about running for President. Being over 35 and a US citizen is probably the easiest qualifications of any job on Earth. Even to flip burgers or clean toilets requires a high school diploma or GED.

They need to come up with a very difficult test that is harder to pass than a medical board exam or bar exam. It will test you on all matters of Presidential duties, such as government and law, economics, science, foreign policy, etc.

Once you are able to pass that exam, then you can run for President. The most important job in the world should not have the lowest barrier to entry.

[QUOTE=TigerKing;4746803]My eyes are open. 18,000. Sounds legit. No telling how many lies were on Hillary's server she smashed and destroyed. Maybe 18,001.[/QUOTE]Not saying HRC wasn't hiding anything but if she were it's total speculation and probably false. Your hero, the tangerine tellatubby on the other hand has thousands of lies documented. Nice story dude. Keep telling it.

[QUOTE=JimJaimes;4747742]Not saying HRC wasn't hiding anything but if she were it's total speculation and probably false. Your hero, the tangerine tellatubby on the other hand has thousands of lies documented. Nice story dude. Keep telling it.[/QUOTE]I don't know at all. That was the point of her doing it so no one would know. Makes sense. You must know of course. Destroying personal servers is normal behavior so quit being so naive. This argument is pointless because everyone has their own views and opinions. Trump 2020 by a landslide. Biden should be quite the shit show in upcoming debates. Good luck sir.

[QUOTE=TigerKing;4746439]How does a vote in Idaho count 5 times more than someone in California? Idaho has 4 votes in the Electoral. California has 55. I personally don't want "dipshits" in California or New York making the decisions for me. Like one said earlier on here it's only when a Democrat loses an election that they say it should go off the popular vote. If you know going into a campaign that the popular vote doesn't get you elected and then you should campaign to win the electoral. Pretty simple.[/QUOTE]Doesn't deserve any credibility for anything they type. Just sayin' dude. Really? TigerKing? Seriously? Piss off.

[QUOTE=JimJaimes;4747754]Doesn't deserve any credibility for anything they type. Just sayin' dude. Really? TigerKing? Seriously? Piss off.[/QUOTE]I could say the same. Get a clue.

[QUOTE=JimJaimes;4747754]Doesn't deserve any credibility for anything they type. Just sayin' dude. Really? TigerKing? Seriously? Piss off.[/QUOTE]Mad about a username on a forum where people talk about hookers. Wow. You take this shit way too serious. This will be the last I talk about politics on this forum. Some get butt hurt too bad.

[QUOTE=TigerKing;4746439]How does a vote in Idaho count 5 times more than someone in California? Idaho has 4 votes in the Electoral. California has 55. I personally don't want "dipshits" in California or New York making the decisions for me. Like one said earlier on here it's only when a Democrat loses an election that they say it should go off the popular vote. If you know going into a campaign that the popular vote doesn't get you elected and then you should campaign to win the electoral. Pretty simple.[/QUOTE]You'll be singing a different tune once Texas and Florida become reliable blue states in Presidential elections.

Then you gerrymandering twats will come up with some other scam that tries to deny voters their Constitutional rights.

Your party is shrinking every year and you see the writing on the wall. Only scared desperate people come up with increasingly desperate measures to hold on to power.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;4747467]If that is a requirement, how will the Dems get the dead folks to vote? LOL.[/QUOTE]There isn't any right-wing conspiracy theory you aren't completely taken in by. Did you get your pillow from the guy on faux news? LOL.

[QUOTE=Willow1535;4747337]I try not to watch any of the cable "news" shows and choose to read / research things for myself. I also stay away from Facebook and Twitter as well. I only discuss politics with my friends. Some tend to lean one way or the other, but that doesn't bother me. I can't deal with people who are entrenched and stuck in that mode where they think that "their side" is superior. I consider myself to be a Libertarian. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats in the past and will continue to base my decisions on the issues, rather than vote along party lines.

I think that we should all have to pass a test (civics, political science, math, etc,) before you can vote. Maybe even spelling! Everyone should be able to vote, but you should have a clue on how our government works.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you said.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;4747467]If that is a requirement, how will the Dems get the dead folks to vote? LOL.[/QUOTE]YOU win the stupidest post ever on here. Kena1, you are no longer #1.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;4747467]If that is a requirement, how will the Dems get the dead folks to vote? LOL.[/QUOTE]You misspelled, "Republicans". There. I fixed it for you.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/us/republican-voter-fraud.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=BengalMan;4748170]YOU win the stupidest post ever on here. Kena1, you are no longer #1.[/QUOTE]That TigerKing guy is about to take the lead. LOL.

Dems with the dead people voting and Republicans with brain dead people voting. It's all the same. They would cancel each other out.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;4747467]If that is a requirement, how will the Dems get the dead folks to vote? LOL.[/QUOTE]

You miss the most important tests of all: personal ethics, honesty and morality. Unfortunately few candidates, if any, would pass. And the vanishingly few who might pass would probably fail most of the other tests. LOL.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4747513]I've always said the same thing about running for President. Being over 35 and a US citizen is probably the easiest qualifications of any job on Earth. Even to flip burgers or clean toilets requires a high school diploma or GED.

They need to come up with a very difficult test that is harder to pass than a medical board exam or bar exam. It will test you on all matters of Presidential duties, such as government and law, economics, science, foreign policy, etc.

Once you are able to pass that exam, then you can run for President. The most important job in the world should not have the lowest barrier to entry.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4748035]There isn't any right-wing conspiracy theory you aren't completely taken in by. Did you get your pillow from the guy on faux news? LOL.[/QUOTE]I am of draculan descent and sleep in a coffin leaning against the corner in my bedroom! BTW this post and the last were pure sarcasm! Both parties suck! Anyone that fights so hard to oppress or change the other's point of view for a political party has been brainwashed or is a sheep! What most have forgotten is right is right and wrong is wrong! We have a duty to help out or fellow man. Woman and child. Now where does it say that we have to beat the crap out of one another to prove our beliefs. Be that politics, religion, sex or anything else in this world.

If you see someone dying on the side of the road are you going to walk over and ask them qualifying questions before you help them out?

[QUOTE=TigerKing;4747987]Mad about a username on a forum where people talk about hookers. Wow. You take this shit way too serious. This will be the last I talk about politics on this forum. Some get butt hurt too bad.[/QUOTE]I chalk that up to a job well done! And this thread isn't about hookers. It's about stupid ass modern day republicans putting asswipes like trump in office and then defending it. And you fit the bill.

This subsection is a riot, and not in a good way. It's like watching children argue about whose dad can beat up whose. For those that are so offended by Trump and his administration, I'm happy to take that horrendous stimulus check off your hands. No need to thank me. It's the least I can do for my fellow man.

And for those of you in NKY, I'll take them off your hands too.

[QUOTE=Gonz199;4749572]This subsection is a riot, and not in a good way. It's like watching children argue about whose dad can beat up whose. For those that are so offended by Trump and his administration, I'm happy to take that horrendous stimulus check off your hands. No need to thank me. It's the least I can do for my fellow man.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JimJaimes;4749129]I chalk that up to a job well done! And this thread isn't about hookers. It's about stupid ass modern day republicans putting asswipes like trump in office and then defending it. And you fit the bill.[/QUOTE]I said the forum. I didn't say anything about this thread. See the difference between you and I are I can have an adult conversation with Liberals without getting my ass hurt. Anyway I'm still trying to figure out what you did well.

[QUOTE=Gonz199;4749572]This subsection is a riot, and not in a good way. It's like watching children argue about whose dad can beat up whose. For those that are so offended by Trump and his administration, I'm happy to take that horrendous stimulus check off your hands. No need to thank me. It's the least I can do for my fellow man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jayson7825;4749574]And for those of you in NKY, I'll take them off your hands too.

.[/QUOTE]So clever with that broken record bullshit. You trumptards act like he did that all by himself or something. Keep it up though, he will need all the braniacs like you he can get in November.

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4749709]So clever with that broken record bullshit. You trumptards act like he did that all by himself or something. Keep it up though, he will need all the braniacs like you he can get in November.[/QUOTE]A child who can't get his way so you just keep throwing the same tantrum until your mommy gives you a cookie.

What pussy is? Or you been in the house to long? Hell start a spelling bee. Or take a test that will do it. There's the good old my dog is bigger than your dog! You all are acting like a pack of fucking kids. Are you too scared to go out and play? Go out and find some pussy. That will take your mind off your frustration. I've found a few new good ones. They are out there! Lenny6746.

With all the childish name calling and personal attacks, apparently we sometimes need to be reminded.

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;4750471]With all the childish name calling and personal attacks, apparently we sometimes need to be reminded.[/QUOTE]Is opposing bigotry, bigotry?

If after being reminded of this definition and I was asked if that described me? My face would turn red and I would have to raise my hand to affirm that in a lot of cases that is 'me'. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it, what everyone does NOT have is the right to demand your brothers and sisters to have that same opinion. Thanks 'funguy' for the reminder!

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;4750471]With all the childish name calling and personal attacks, apparently we sometimes need to be reminded.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;4750471]With all the childish name calling and personal attacks, apparently we sometimes need to be reminded.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BobbyLinn;4750506]If after being reminded of this definition and I was asked if that described me? My face would turn red and I would have to raise my hand to affirm that in a lot of cases that is 'me'. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it, what everyone does NOT have is the right to demand your brothers and sisters to have that same opinion. Thanks 'funguy' for the reminder![/QUOTE]I believe that people that proudly follow a con man that openly emboldens racists, neo-nazis, thugs, and liars, who also encourages those people to display that behavior, should be shamed and ridiculed publicly.

If that makes me a name-caller, I can live with it.

[QUOTE=Gonz199;4749572]For those that are so offended by Trump and his administration, I'm happy to take that horrendous stimulus check off your hands. No need to thank me. It's the least I can do for my fellow man.[/QUOTE]I can't wait to see Captain Bone Spurs switch his tune on those stimulus checks once the pandemic is over. He puts his cartoony signature on them now and takes credit for handing out money to needy Americans, but we all know by election time he'll be calling them "socialist handouts" by Pelosi and Schumer and blaming them for his deficit spinning out of control.

Trump changes his mind like a fart in the breeze. He has no idea which way it's going to go one minute to the next. The worst flip flopper we've ever seen.

Yes everyone has a right to an opinion and we usually voice ours However, remember opinions have different.

Values. Age Experience Education Life Experiences Thats how we develope Expert witnesses. So accept know and respect your level. But of course there are those without any objectivity or a foundation for their thoughts that will always have to be right. Be Safe.

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4751223]I believe that people that proudly follow a con man that openly emboldens racists, neo-nazis, thugs, and liars, who also encourages those people to display that behavior, should be shamed and ridiculed publicly.

If that makes me a name-caller, I can live with it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DoctorAl;4751314]Yes everyone has a right to an opinion and we usually voice ours However, remember opinions have different.

Values. Age Experience Education Life Experiences Thats how we develope Expert witnesses. So accept know and respect your level. But of course there are those without any objectivity or a foundation for their thoughts that will always have to be right. Be Safe.[/QUOTE][B]DunningKruger effect[/B]

[URL]https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect[/URL]

[I]As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the bias results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."[/I]

All opinions aren't created equally.

Are we not simply agreeing that opinions have varying degrees of value?

[QUOTE=DoctorAl;4751314]Yes everyone has a right to an opinion and we usually voice ours However, remember opinions have different.

Values. Age Experience Education Life Experiences Thats how we develope Expert witnesses. So accept know and respect your level. But of course there are those without any objectivity or a foundation for their thoughts that will always have to be right. Be Safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4752082][B]DunningKruger effect[/B]

[URL]https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect[/URL]

[I]As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the bias results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."[/I]

All opinions aren't created equally.[/QUOTE]The problem with Dunning-Kruger is that you can't possibly explain it to the people who have it.

Or, when I summarize a very large literature on human competence:

"competent people can recognize competence AND incompetence, in themselves and in others. Incompetent people can NOT recognize competence OR incompetence, in themselves or in others".

The good dr.

[QUOTE=DrDave39;4752619]The problem with Dunning-Kruger is that you can't possibly explain it to the people who have it.

Or, when I summarize a very large literature on human competence:

"competent people can recognize competence AND incompetence, in themselves and in others. [b]Incompetent people can NOT recognize competence OR incompetence, in themselves or in others"[/b].

The good dr.[/QUOTE]Ironic how the incompetent [i]claim [/i]so much competence.

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4752709]Ironic how the incompetent [i]claim [/i]so much competence.[/QUOTE]It's often difficult to teach / inform / tell someone about something when they believe they already know it. Even when they do not.

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4752709]Ironic how the incompetent [i]claim [/i]so much competence.[/QUOTE]Narcissism 101.

Tgd.

I agree with INeedaName. The president, who by the way has done a phenomenal job managing the economy, our military, and our borders, has wrestled with this decision to open the economy. And at some point, he has an obligation to balance the needs of health and economic sustainability.

There are so many factors. And I disagree with the flip flop comment a few posts down. Name one. What I like about the airing of the daily briefings is that you get to see what he actually said, and the context. Not what CNN Said and their out of context airplay.

Let's not forget. This is a president ho is doing this job for a dollar a year. He is the same president who paid for a Jewish boy to have surgery overseas on his own dime. And has paid the college education of many kids, other than his own. Give the guy a break. Instead of finding ways to criticize, during this time, find the positive in what's going on, and the magnitude of the decision he must make.

[QUOTE=INeedAName;4753215]Yes, the doctors are knowledgeable in infectious disease and spread and mitigation. But that is where their authority stops. ors.[/QUOTE]

Finally, two stand up conservatives. Thanks for offering to round up these entitlement checks and send them back to the Federal Government. You guys are true patriots.

[QUOTE=Jayson7825;4749574]And for those of you in NKY, I'll take them off your hands too.

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I feel like this page should be called "Teenage girl drama". Seriously, you guys are worse then little teenage girls. No one gives a crap about your opinions on politics. Post useful information about providers and stop behaving like a bunch of teenage girls. This section has been full of useless dribble for almost a month.

You expressed it better than I did! Thank you I get tired of reading that crap too! Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=Dasap;4753336]I feel like this page should be called "Teenage girl drama". Seriously, you guys are worse then little teenage girls. No one gives a crap about your opinions on politics. Post useful information about providers and stop behaving like a bunch of teenage girls. This section has been full of useless dribble for almost a month.[/QUOTE]This thread is called "Rants, Raves, and Opinions," yet here you come typing OMG and talking about how people are acting like little girls. LOLOL. Why would you be angry at people for sharing their rants, raves, and opinions in the thread designed for exactly that? Am I missing something?