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Cheetah
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;1973979]I've probably gotten more FREE extras from Cheetah than from just about any other clubs (or maybe neck and neck with Follies); it's really more about charm there than money, in my experience.
When I was in graduate school (at Tech), I roomed with two Cheetah dancers; we were threesome fuck buddies, and obviously I wasn't rich (I think I made $9 k per year from my PhD stipend, and that was in the early 90's); that was back when dancers made a ton of money without extras (they each made about $1000/ night on average). But, we had loads of fun together, and that's what got their interest, I suppose.
Dancing as a job actually sucks. The hours are horrible, it's psychologically and physically exhausting, there are no benefits, pay is inconsistent so it's impossible to make a budget and is financially stressful, AND it's still a very marginalized way to make a living, much less hold down a normal relationship. A guy who's just fun, and not weird or demanding, is a godsend to these women.
O.[/QUOTE]I recently went to the Cheetah for the 1st time and thoroughly enjoyed myself. It's definitely an upscale club experience. The dancers aren't harassing you for dances. We spent the entire time around the bar with several ladies laughing and talking with us. When we wanted a dance, we moved to one of the tables and the girls followed us back when we were done. I have a new favorite club.
And Ozy is right about stripping not being a lucrative career. The only thing I might add is that one of the major problems is that many of these girls have poor money management skills. Yes, there are nights where they will make $1000+, but there are a lot of nights where they barely make $200. It takes some skill to manage that kind of cashflow.
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[QUOTE=Ozymandias;1973979]I've probably gotten more FREE extras from Cheetah than from just about any other clubs (or maybe neck and neck with Follies); it's really more about charm there than money, in my experience.
When I was in graduate school (at Tech), I roomed with two Cheetah dancers; we were threesome fuck buddies, and obviously I wasn't rich (I think I made $9 k per year from my PhD stipend, and that was in the early 90's); that was back when dancers made a ton of money without extras (they each made about $1000/ night on average). But, we had loads of fun together, and that's what got their interest, I suppose.
Dancing as a job actually sucks. The hours are horrible, it's psychologically and physically exhausting, there are no benefits, pay is inconsistent so it's impossible to make a budget and is financially stressful, AND it's still a very marginalized way to make a living, much less hold down a normal relationship. A guy who's just fun, and not weird or demanding, is a godsend to these women.
O.[/QUOTE]Wow, congrats. I realize it is in the past, but you are still my hero.
Yes, just being a normal person goes a long way. I've had enough freebie relationships with dancers to agree with you. Heck, I'm 46 now and had a thing going with a good looking girl for free at another club. I think we both moved on due to lack of time.
As for being a dancer, yeah, it's hard on them to. It's not something I would want to do in their place. The shoes, dealing with drunk jerks, the hours, I do feel for them at times. Of course, I also remember the one girl that lied and stole from me. Though, one out of six relationships isn't a bad percentage of genuinely good people. Interestingly, one was a foster mom for the state. She loved each and every one of those children and would spend every dime she mad on her kids. I've also met a ton of really good girls that I never had a relationship with, just good people. Now, some were sex freaks, some weren't. There was a girl from the Goldrush years ago that was a complete nut, wow.
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[QUOTE=DickMGood;1974793]There are no benefits, pay is inconsistent so it's impossible to make a budget and is financially stressful.
They each made about $1000/ night on average.
If I made an average of 1000 dollars per night I sure as hell wouldn't worry about "being financially stressful."
.[/QUOTE]They're just fantastically bad at managing money.
I have known WAY to many dancers over the years, and ONE has actually come out ahead from dancing: every other one concluded their dancing career either at zero net worth or in debt. The one who made actual bank went into dancing with a plan: she did it for exactly two years, recorded all her earnings and banked them, paid taxes (she used either a CPA or an enrolled agent), and, perhaps most importantly, made it a policy of never socializing with customers OR dancers outside of work. She danced at Shooter Alley around 10 years ago, and actually exited dancing with quite a nest egg (maybe 2-3 hundred grand, I don't recall the exact amount).
By contrast, the Korean AMP girls I used to know were often careful money managers. I remember "Candy", my AMP ATF, who worked at VIP Spa (on Maple Drive in Buckhead) back in the mid 90's (and who is now an owner of Gold Spa) used to work with a group of Korean business people (most of the AMP girls did) to "transfer" assets to Korea: she would give them $100 thousand at a time. She bought commercial real estate in Korea, and on Buford Highway (I know she's a partner in a couple of shopping centers there), and of course partnered in a spa. Pretty rich by now, I imagine.
So I have to laugh when I see these strippers' tweeting that they're "getting money" and "boss bitches"; income = wealth.
O.
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Doll House
Anybody seen the playboy cybergirl (named CJ in another club) in Doll House. She used to be one of my favorite in another club. I have given 3 10 girls in my life and she is one of them. She is about 21, blonde, spinner, the boobs, 5' 7" and absolutely gorgeous. People told me she has gone to Doll House and I am going there soon to find out. I can't imagine how Doll House can attract a girl like this. If she is there, I WILL go there more often for sure. She danced for me before and I don't know about what she provides in extras. Looking at her is plenty enough for me. I still have her cyber pictures.
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[QUOTE=Schelong;1975561]Haven't posted in a while, but I'm going to start contributing again and let's start with Ms. Cleo. I was just as excited to see her post as you were and 'lucky' enough to get a session. Damage was $3.5 for the hour and honestly not worth it. Like most pornstars, she displayed none of the enthusiasm or sex drive that you see in her scenes. Very mechanical and business like. She didn't rush me and followed instruction well. Highlight of the session was the BBBJ. Her skills are real. Other than a 1 time trophy fuck, I wouldn't recommend. The only pornstars I could honestly say give a real PSE that I've experienced are Honey Danielz and Sky Black. Your better off finding a look-a-like for a fraction of the price.[/QUOTE]Rule of thumb. Never mess with porn stars who are now escorts!! Especially if they have a "high pussy price". The ones with the highest prices will give you the shittiest of performances. There are a few of them in Atlanta that will rock your world for the donation but most of them are pure bs'ers. I made the mistake once of paying a half-wit porn star, Envy Star, $150 bucks. The session was lame as fuck. She didn't do anything but fake moan and groan the whole time. I got have gotten a full hour with someone less famous who could have probably rocked my world. Most porn stars are a waste of time when it comes to escorting.
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Allright
I have not been to a club in a while. Strokers is one it was nice but was with a girlfriend at the time so no VIP. I have been to Pink Pony tried a few vips most were on dayshift one was good but cost me a lot of money. Have been to Follies a few times funds were not allowing me VIP even one dancer named secret wanted me to go. When I was younger I used to frequent the clubs in Augusta since I lived there and they very 'iffy". I did like secret. My funds are about to get better. Would follies be worth it? Would secret be worth the VIP?
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Pin-ups
Went by Pin-ups today. I felt like I had the place to myself. With about 20 dancers. I had a good time spreading the love around but especially enjoys time with Nadia and Louisiana. Low pressure and good table dances (especially Louisiana. Handsy). I didn't press for extras.
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[QUOTE=GreyGecko;1986839]I have not been to a club in a while. Strokers is one it was nice but was with a girlfriend at the time so no VIP. I have been to Pink Pony tried a few vips most were on dayshift one was good but cost me a lot of money. Have been to Follies a few times funds were not allowing me VIP even one dancer named secret wanted me to go. When I was younger I used to frequent the clubs in Augusta since I lived there and they very 'iffy". I did like secret. My funds are about to get better. Would follies be worth it? Would secret be worth the VIP?[/QUOTE]That depends on which "Secret" is was (there have been a couple).
Was it this one?
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[QUOTE=Ozymandias;1987448]That depends on which "Secret" is was (there have been a couple).
Was it this one?[/QUOTE]OMG O it is... I she is so Beautiful.
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Vip,
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;1987448]That depends on which "Secret" is was (there have been a couple).[/quote]
Was it this one? But will I enjoy the vip with her?
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Ozy
My last posts looked a little jibberish. Blame it on cheap brandy. Anyway I have notice Ozy that you are quite the connosseur. Much respect to you.
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[QUOTE=GreyGecko;1987585]Was it this one? But will I enjoy the vip with her?[/QUOTE]She's a "sure thing" in VIP.
I didn't realize she was back at Follies (she was at Pink Pony for a while).
O.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;1988468]She's a "sure thing" in VIP.
I didn't realize she was back at Follies (she was at Pink Pony for a while).
O.[/QUOTE]Thanks O... Soon as I get a little more saved I'll be there. And that will be soon, YAY.
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[QUOTE=Acaryu;1985145]Anybody seen the playboy cybergirl (named CJ in another club) in Doll House. She used to be one of my favorite in another club. I have given 3 10 girls in my life and she is one of them. She is about 21, blonde, spinner, the boobs, 5' 7" and absolutely gorgeous. People told me she has gone to Doll House and I am going there soon to find out. I can't imagine how Doll House can attract a girl like this. If she is there, I WILL go there more often for sure. She danced for me before and I don't know about what she provides in extras. Looking at her is plenty enough for me. I still have her cyber pictures.[/QUOTE]So did you go to Doll house is she there? Did you fuck? And what was the damage?
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Riley's
Went to Riley's on FIB and saw an older mixed woman dancing named Sherry. Not your typical stripper as she was older meaning not the typical.
20 somethings. Her belly had flab as you could tell she had kids. I always have found mixed women to be something special and of course I'm in a strip club so top head isn't clicking on all cylinders as it should be. I get a couple of dances from her thinking there is a reason this chick is in here, very little contact. We spoke about the VIP and she claimed nobody had ever taken her to VIP in the 3 yrs she's worked there so we talked and decided to be the nice guy. I can say it did not get any better, not even a little. She rather sit in my lap and talk about her kids than do anything which was a turnoff. There was a really curvy, thick (chunky) white girl there I had my eye on but she was with her guy the whole time and not many other girls available. The VIP sucks there BTW as it's very thin strings for a curtain.