Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=DNut;4730100]I was chatting with a provider who asked an interesting question. Acknowledging that times are hard and a lot of people don't have the disposable income they once did, how can she entice clients without herself losing out by lowering prices. She does have a point. Just like everyone, she also has bills that need to be paid.

I suggested that instead of taking less money, to ADD time. Instead of (for example only) charging $200 for an hour, still charge $200 but for 75 minutes or 90 minutes. She is asking about getting more clients so I believe I can safely assume that she doesn't have the current client base to schedule back-to-back-to-back clients; she has downtime. Not many of us can still go longer than an hour, have multiple pops within that hour, get to position 85 of the Kama Sutra without doing physical therapy afterwards, etc. , but offering some extra time to catch one's breath between pops could provide some incentive in these challenging times. (I am only stating my suggestion, but I'm sure someone will take this as a challenge to a debate over the merits of this idea. It's not open for debate.).

The point of this post is to ask, does anyone have any other ideas on how to entice clients these days, other than lower rates, that I could pass along?[/QUOTE]The p411 girls are trying to hold hard to their high rates, but I don't see it happening as their regulars start to drop off. I've noticed the girls that like to sort of dictate terms and act hard to get seem to more available these days. In a couple of weeks it will be a buyer's market. I don't mean that they will go to bargain basement prices, but the whole "$350 for an hour, 550 for 90 min" (how does that math even make sense?) will drop off the board.

Had one the other day say she was willing to do me a favor by dropping the multi-hour requirement. Well, I don't think I need any favors right now.

[QUOTE=DNut;4730100]I was chatting with a provider who asked an interesting question. Acknowledging that times are hard and a lot of people don't have the disposable income they once did, how can she entice clients without herself losing out by lowering prices. She does have a point. Just like everyone, she also has bills that need to be paid.

I suggested that instead of taking less money, to ADD time. Instead of (for example only) charging $200 for an hour, still charge $200 but for 75 minutes or 90 minutes. She is asking about getting more clients so I believe I can safely assume that she doesn't have the current client base to schedule back-to-back-to-back clients; she has downtime. Not many of us can still go longer than an hour, have multiple pops within that hour, get to position 85 of the Kama Sutra without doing physical therapy afterwards, etc. , but offering some extra time to catch one's breath between pops could provide some incentive in these challenging times. (I am only stating my suggestion, but I'm sure someone will take this as a challenge to a debate over the merits of this idea. It's not open for debate.).

The point of this post is to ask, does anyone have any other ideas on how to entice clients these days, other than lower rates, that I could pass along?[/QUOTE]Before long I think the girls are going to be in serious trouble financially. Many of us, myself included, have lost jobs and are now stuck at home with the wife and no way to get out to "party". I've been able to sneak out a couple times but that's likely to change for the worse. The point is, I believe OUR availability is going to be seriously diminished which is going to force them to lower prices--simple supply and demand.

So what can they do to maintain business or, hopefully, grow it? In my opinion, not much. What they should have been doing all along is handling their business more professionally. Some of them do but as we all know, most of them don't. They ghost us, the don't respond timely, they're drugged out when we arrive, some don't bathe regularly, they provide lousy service and expect us to accept it. The list goes on and on. There are many girls I've met that I truly like but there are just as many that don't know the first damn thing about building a "relationship", and I mean a business relationship, not a love interest.

The way I see it, the girls that have treated us well will continue to see their business hold steady, at least as much as possible in these weird times. The ones that have taken us for granted are going to have a difficult time.

[QUOTE=Ryann222;4723989]You are a small minded human. Profiting off my name I would never work for you again. You are holding on to anything you possibly can thinking I would come back. Go ahead send people to my hub I'm making ad revenue. Keeping my pictures on your site just to spite me. You're a creepy stalker, you will never look good in any situation you put yourself in.[/QUOTE]Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows, if the coronavirus crap goes on a couple months longer, I may have to!!
You are nothing more to him than one in a very long line of providers that he has dealt with over the years. They come and they go, we cum and we go.
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.

[QUOTE=LurkinGround;4730406]Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows[/QUOTE]Well, to be fair, your reviews on TER spend quite a bit of time sucking dick and getting fucked by trannies. Just saying. Nothing wrong with that, but it's not a huge step, right?

[QUOTE=Kenal1;4730352]Before long I think the girls are going to be in serious trouble financially. Many of us, myself included, have lost jobs and are now stuck at home with the wife and no way to get out to "party". I've been able to sneak out a couple times but that's likely to change for the worse. The point is, I believe OUR availability is going to be seriously diminished which is going to force them to lower prices--simple supply and demand.

So what can they do to maintain business or, hopefully, grow it? In my opinion, not much. What they should have been doing all along is handling their business more professionally. Some of them do but as we all know, most of them don't. They ghost us, the don't respond timely, they're drugged out when we arrive, some don't bathe regularly, they provide lousy service and expect us to accept it. The list goes on and on. There are many girls I've met that I truly like but there are just as many that don't know the first damn thing about building a "relationship", and I mean a business relationship, not a love interest.

The way I see it, the girls that have treated us well will continue to see their business hold steady, at least as much as possible in these weird times. The ones that have taken us for granted are going to have a difficult time.[/QUOTE]I think they already are in trouble. That $1200 only shows up for tax payers, and most of them don't file TBH. I'm fortunate. I haven't been going to an office for the last decade, so this is all just "normal" for me. There's still some girls out there that are regular based and can still hunker down with. But it's a bad idea to be banging heroin addicts that are essentially revolving doors right now. JMHO.

[QUOTE=DNut;4730100] The point of this post is to ask, does anyone have any other ideas on how to entice clients these days, other than lower rates, that I could pass along?[/QUOTE]The idea of adding more time for the same amount of money is a good one. May save a client or two. Unfortunately, it's not going to change the direction the wind is blowing.

During a recession, guys will find money under the car seat if necessary to see a girl.

During a recession with a chance of a miserable death from Covid-19 added in and who cares what's under the car seat. Not going to risk dying.

Visit a sex worker and you know she is seeing many guys. You can take precautions to prevent catching something nasty. Can get meds to cure or prolong life.

Visit a sex worker now you have no idea who she has seen. Are her previous clients Covid free or carriers? Does she have it? Did she breath on you? Kiss you? How is your luck at Russian roulette?

You get Covid you die. Doesn't matter what the girl says or does to attract clients these days that dance with death doesn't change for her or her clients.

[QUOTE=LurkinGround;4730406]Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows, if the coronavirus crap goes on a couple months longer, I may have to!!
You are nothing more to him than one in a very long line of providers that he has dealt with over the years. They come and they go, we cum and we go.
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.[/QUOTE]Not repeat? That seems like a crazy notion. She is a great provider.

[QUOTE=LurkinGround;4730406]Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows, if the coronavirus crap goes on a couple months longer, I may have to!!
You are nothing more to him than one in a very long line of providers that he has dealt with over the years. They come and they go, we cum and we go.
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.[/QUOTE]What's up with the site. Has Steve closed up shop? God I hope not.

[QUOTE=DNut;4730100]I was chatting with a provider who asked an interesting question. Acknowledging that times are hard and a lot of people don't have the disposable income they once did, how can she entice clients without herself losing out by lowering prices. She does have a point. Just like everyone, she also has bills that need to be paid.

I suggested that instead of taking less money, to ADD time. Instead of (for example only) charging $200 for an hour, still charge $200 but for 75 minutes or 90 minutes. She is asking about getting more clients so I believe I can safely assume that she doesn't have the current client base to schedule back-to-back-to-back clients; she has downtime. Not many of us can still go longer than an hour, have multiple pops within that hour, get to position 85 of the Kama Sutra without doing physical therapy afterwards, etc. , but offering some extra time to catch one's breath between pops could provide some incentive in these challenging times. (I am only stating my suggestion, but I'm sure someone will take this as a challenge to a debate over the merits of this idea. It's not open for debate.).

The point of this post is to ask, does anyone have any other ideas on how to entice clients these days, other than lower rates, that I could pass along?[/QUOTE]If the situation was exactly the opposite, say providers left the field for another opportunity in mass, would the remaining providers have a qualm with raising rates?

Within a few months, unemployment is projected to be at over 10%. Deflation is already occurring and will only accelerate. Whatever money that I have now will only be worth more in the future and it would be wise to hold on to it or I should save if the emergency affects me. If someone wants me to spend on non-necessitates, then I see no reason to not want a discount for money that will increase in spending value or to justify depleting my emergency fund.

[QUOTE=LurkinGround;4730406]Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows, if the coronavirus crap goes on a couple months longer, I may have to!!
You are nothing more to him than one in a very long line of providers that he has dealt with over the years. They come and they go, we cum and we go.
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.[/QUOTE]Eh to each their own, my "higher prices" provide me the luxury to stay home till need be while you are already pondering your future endeavors.

Employee? Where is my W-2?

[QUOTE=Fatmando;4730675]If the situation was exactly the opposite, say providers left the field for another opportunity in mass, would the remaining providers have a qualm with raising rates?

Within a few months, unemployment is projected to be at over 10%. Deflation is already occurring and will only accelerate. Whatever money that I have now will only be worth more in the future and it would be wise to hold on to it or I should save if the emergency affects me. If someone wants me to spend on non-necessitates, then I see no reason to not want a discount for money that will increase in spending value or to justify depleting my emergency fund.[/QUOTE]And just like that, the conversation was shifted from, "Let's help each other out in these tough times. ", to "Me, me me! I'm the only one that matters so I better get more for less. ".

Let's steer this conversation back to trying to be helpful.

[QUOTE=Fatmando;4730675]If the situation was exactly the opposite, say providers left the field for another opportunity in mass, would the remaining providers have a qualm with raising rates?

Within a few months, unemployment is projected to be at over 10%. Deflation is already occurring and will only accelerate. Whatever money that I have now will only be worth more in the future and it would be wise to hold on to it or I should save if the emergency affects me. If someone wants me to spend on non-necessitates, then I see no reason to not want a discount for money that will increase in spending value or to justify depleting my emergency fund.[/QUOTE]Deflation in the petroleum market is due to Russia and the Saudis pumping the market with way to much supply atm! Everyone is going to do a 10-20% cut in daily production. So prices will go back up to $60. In a few months when everyone goes back to work! Wait until thre is hyper inflation if things keep going the way they are! If you are old enough to remember the late 70's to early 80's then you will know what I am talking about!

[QUOTE=LurkinGround;4730406]
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.[/QUOTE]I am surprised you don't think that I think her and brooke are the best in Cincinnati.

[QUOTE=LurkinGround;4730406]Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows, if the coronavirus crap goes on a couple months longer, I may have to!!
You are nothing more to him than one in a very long line of providers that he has dealt with over the years. They come and they go, we cum and we go.
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.[/QUOTE]There's a reason EE can't keep any girls for any length of time. They figure him out real fast.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;4730475]You get Covid you die. Doesn't matter what the girl says or does to attract clients these days that dance with death doesn't change for her or her clients.[/QUOTE]People like you are fueling this ridiculous hysteria around C-19. No, if you get Covid you most likely will not even know that you have it. If you're in a risk group then yes there is a chance that you will die. A chance not a certainty. Covid is not ebola.

These are the most recent numbers for the worldwide distribution of deaths due to corona.

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/[/URL]

If you are under 40 with no underlying conditions your chance of survival is 99.8 percent if you're over 40 then it jumps to the astonishingly poor rate of 99.6%.

These numbers are based on confirmed cases only with the horribly inadequate testing that has been done. Once real testing starts the morbidity rate (people who have it) is going to skyrocket, and the mortality rate (percent of people who die from it that have it) is going to drop like a fucking rock. Something to the tune of. 000 something mortality rate. Right now, at this moment when expressed as a percentage the total number of deaths from corona is 0. 0008% of the world population. This is not a Jerry Bruckheimer movie, humanity is not engaged in a desperate fight for it's survival.

Why couldn't corona have aggressively targeted stupid people instead of grandmas and grandpas.

[QUOTE=Admin2;4730975]Why couldn't corona have aggressively targeted stupid people instead of grandmas and grandpas.[/QUOTE]Most of the time those two groups are one and the same. At least based on my assessment of Boomers in the past 20 years.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;4730733]Deflation in the petroleum market is due to Russia and the Saudis pumping the market with way to much supply atm! Everyone is going to do a 10-20% cut in daily production. So prices will go back up to $60. In a few months when everyone goes back to work! Wait until thre is hyper inflation if things keep going the way they are! If you are old enough to remember the late 70's to early 80's then you will know what I am talking about![/QUOTE]I never referenced oil prices as the cause for all deflation. Deflation also occurred in the 2008 recession as well. With this many people losing their jobs, deflation will occur. Estimates from the CBO have us at 10% unemployment at the end of the year. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html

[QUOTE=Fatmando;4731072]I never referenced oil prices as the cause for all deflation. Deflation also occurred in the 2008 recession as well. With this many people losing their jobs, deflation will occur. Estimates from the CBO have us at 10% unemployment at the end of the year. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html[/QUOTE]I have had serious deflation problems since about 2010. Pills help sometimes. I need inflation.

[QUOTE=Ryann222;4730710]Eh to each their own, my "higher prices" provide me the luxury to stay home till need be while you are already pondering your future endeavors.

Employee? Where is my W-2?[/QUOTE]Ok, business associate then, LOL.

And sweetie, I am fine financially, no pondering future endeavors, I'm next in line to run a half billion dollar a year company.

Even though this is the Octagon, didn't mean to flame you, you were fine. Personally, I didn't see anything that justified the higher rates compared to some of his other girls. I'm sure you have your loyal following and I'm happy for you. There is a reason they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream as the ole saying goes, best of luck to you.

[QUOTE=Alphabet2611;4730774]I am surprised you don't think that I think her and brooke are the best in Cincinnati.[/QUOTE]Now Brooke, I have repeated with. Even though she was a bit thicker than I prefer and I am not really a big boob guy, I found her slight southern drawl and face to be very appealing. Her BBBJCIM was outstanding as well.

I have been dealing with EE for years and "most" of the ones I have seen were great, Galina and Cherry, ATF material. Some, I can remember their names, a real tall one with a great rack, 2-3 years ago was another.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;4730777]There's a reason EE can't keep any girls for any length of time. They figure him out real fast.[/QUOTE]I have met with a couple that said he was good to deal with and a couple that didn't have nice things to day, mainly that he scheduled "clients" too close together. I really don't know all that much about the situation, I was told he pays for half the room rate, and takes a cut of the donation. He deals with the scheduling and they deal with the "other part" of the transaction. Not white knighting here but I would think there are 2 sides to every story. I've never had an issue with him or any of his girls. Always prompt, returns text quickly, never ghosted, etc. There have been a few that have stayed with him for quite awhile BTW. Others come and go, I chalk up a lot of that to the normal eb and flow in that line of work. There arent many that stay doing it for long. I would imagine its a bit draining both mentally and physically on these girls, never knowing who is showing up, will they be abusive, rip them off, etc. I am always on edge meeting someone for the 1st time, I could imagine they feel the same, only going through it multiple times per day. Has to wear them down after a while.

[QUOTE=Fatmando;4731072]I never referenced oil prices as the cause for all deflation. Deflation also occurred in the 2008 recession as well. With this many people losing their jobs, deflation will occur. Estimates from the CBO have us at 10% unemployment at the end of the year. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html[/QUOTE]Oil Prices usually are an indicator of what is to come! Right now the US is at the mercy of the Chinese! We allowed to much manufacturing and supply lines to be moved over seas for larger profits! 3 M is a prime example of what I am talking about. They only have 1 plant in the USA and 2 over seas. What they produce domestically and overseas has not been coming into the USA market. Also they have raised the prices on their PAPR systemsfor an example from around $600 to a minimum of $ 1300.8 years ago you could buy the same system for $300. The newer systems are also back ordered for a minimum 8 months.

Let us also look at the fact that the fed is printing money like we have it! That devalues the currency and the amount of buying power that a $1 has. That is inflation! So it takes more $ to buy the same thing! Have you looked at the beef market? Prices went up almost a $1 a lb 2 weeks ago. Most grocery stores and butcher markets are not getting their normal supply from the suppliers. So demand for meat, less of it means higher prices.

I wish there would be deflation, that way I could get gas for under. 75 cents, Marlboros for. 50 cents a pack. Oh wait, that means my hourly wage would have to go from $30 plus an hour back to $8 an hour.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;4731482]Oil Prices usually are an indicator of what is to come! Right now the US is at the mercy of the Chinese! We allowed to much manufacturing and supply lines to be moved over seas for larger profits! 3 M is a prime example of what I am talking about. They only have 1 plant in the USA and 2 over seas. What they produce domestically and overseas has not been coming into the USA market. Also they have raised the prices on their PAPR systemsfor an example from around $600 to a minimum of $ 1300.8 years ago you could buy the same system for $300. The newer systems are also back ordered for a minimum 8 months.

Let us also look at the fact that the fed is printing money like we have it! That devalues the currency and the amount of buying power that a $1 has. That is inflation! So it takes more $ to buy the same thing! Have you looked at the beef market? Prices went up almost a $1 a lb 2 weeks ago. Most grocery stores and butcher markets are not getting their normal supply from the suppliers. So demand for meat, less of it means higher prices.

I wish there would be deflation, that way I could get gas for under. 75 cents, Marlboros for. 50 cents a pack. Oh wait, that means my hourly wage would have to go from $30 plus an hour back to $8 an hour.[/QUOTE]That's all anecdotal speculation. Not every product will go down in price during a pandemic but overall demand will decrease. The unemployed do not usually increase their spending. The Federal Reserve cut its benchmark interest rate to 0% and that is not something that is down if inflation is suspected. Once the rate goes to zero you really can't go lower, which is why the current stimulus involves literally giving people money to spend. Once again, not action that occurs if inflation is threat.

The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that spending on food services, arts and accommodations would temporarily decline by about 80% during a major pandemic. Spending on public transportation would drop by 67%. When the populations unemployment increases rapidly demand diminishes, inflation is not the outcome.

[QUOTE=Fatmando;4731680]That's all anecdotal speculation. Not every product will go down in price during a pandemic but overall demand will decrease. The unemployed do not usually increase their spending. The Federal Reserve cut its benchmark interest rate to 0% and that is not something that is down if inflation is suspected. Once the rate goes to zero you really can't go lower, which is why the current stimulus involves literally giving people money to spend. Once again, not action that occurs if inflation is threat.

The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that spending on food services, arts and accommodations would temporarily decline by about 80% during a major pandemic. Spending on public transportation would drop by 67%. When the populations unemployment increases rapidly demand diminishes, inflation is not the outcome.[/QUOTE]Demand for basic needs like rent / mortgage, utilities, food, insurance etc. Do not change. However the comforts or wants in life should decrease. Food for an example will usually go up in prices. As I stated earlier beef prices are climbing and supply seems to be diminishing. After my earlier post, I read two articles about the dairy industry (co ops) telling the dairy farmers to dump the milk they are collecting due to issues getting it to market. Even though demand is high, the supply is decreasing. That will result in higher prices in the future, which is inflation.

As far as interest rates, they have been low for how many years now? About 7 years or so, well before Trump took office. When the fed keeps dropping interest rates until it is 0% that is not a good thing either. It gives no incentive to folks to save money. It also props up a weak economy and a heavy debited Government. One could argue that the cash money that is being handed out is nothing more then a grab for votes for both parties! I would rather have the economy opened back up and welfare / snap / ebt benefit reform, along with getting the deficit almost to $0.

What is your take on the stock market? IS it or was it over inflated? Another article I just read stated it could go back to around 15 k for the first time in years. We haven't ween that in how many years?

[QUOTE=Admin2;4730975]People like you are fueling this ridiculous hysteria around C-19. No, if you get Covid you most likely will not even know that you have it. If you're in a risk group then yes there is a chance that you will die. A chance not a certainty. Covid is not ebola.

These are the most recent numbers for the worldwide distribution of deaths due to corona.

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/[/URL]

If you are under 40 with no underlying conditions your chance of survival is 99.8 percent if you're over 40 then it jumps to the astonishingly poor rate of 99.6%.

These numbers are based on confirmed cases only with the horribly inadequate testing that has been done. Once real testing starts the morbidity rate (people who have it) is going to skyrocket, and the mortality rate (percent of people who die from it that have it) is going to drop like a fucking rock. Something to the tune of. 000 something mortality rate. Right now, at this moment when expressed as a percentage the total number of deaths from corona is 0. 0008% of the world population. This is not a Jerry Bruckheimer movie, humanity is not engaged in a desperate fight for it's survival.

Why couldn't corona have aggressively targeted stupid people instead of grandmas and grandpas.[/QUOTE]Early on the death rate was estimated at 1% or less. This won't even thin the herd.

[QUOTE=BillBut52;4731119]I have had serious deflation problems since about 2010. Pills help sometimes. I need inflation.[/QUOTE]Be careful! I hear those pills can cause HYPER-inflation! LOL.

[QUOTE=LurkinGround;4731378]Now Brooke, I have repeated with. Even though she was a bit thicker than I prefer and I am not really a big boob guy, I found her slight southern drawl and face to be very appealing. Her BBBJCIM was outstanding as well.

I have been dealing with EE for years and "most" of the ones I have seen were great, Galina and Cherry, ATF material. Some, I can remember their names, a real tall one with a great rack, 2-3 years ago was another.[/QUOTE]Juliette! She was awesome and I saw her a many times. I didn't know she did FS until out last visit together. Her DUI really set her back. Oh good times.

I agree with this post quite a bit. There are two sides to every story. Steve at EE has always treated me well, been prompt to respond, sent pics if a provider said not have any in his site etc. I have providers I like thru EE and some I didn't. It seems the girls who he schedule for almost always thi k they can go it alone after a bit and I am 100% sure many guys the see tell them if you cut Steve out you could be so much better. I don't know the back story about the Ryann / Ee breakup and I don't care. I do t need to see dirty laundry aired here because that's between them. I will say Steve is posting a few updates on twitter and still responds to texts. He told me he was working on a new site and it would be a few days and that was early this past week. That's my two cents.

Stay thirsty my friends.

[QUOTE=LurkinGround;4731387]I have met with a couple that said he was good to deal with and a couple that didn't have nice things to day, mainly that he scheduled "clients" too close together. I really don't know all that much about the situation, I was told he pays for half the room rate, and takes a cut of the donation. He deals with the scheduling and they deal with the "other part" of the transaction. Not white knighting here but I would think there are 2 sides to every story. I've never had an issue with him or any of his girls. Always prompt, returns text quickly, never ghosted, etc. There have been a few that have stayed with him for quite awhile BTW. Others come and go, I chalk up a lot of that to the normal eb and flow in that line of work. There arent many that stay doing it for long. I would imagine its a bit draining both mentally and physically on these girls, never knowing who is showing up, will they be abusive, rip them off, etc. I am always on edge meeting someone for the 1st time, I could imagine they feel the same, only going through it multiple times per day. Has to wear them down after a while.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigBibble;4732017]Juliette! She was awesome and I saw her a many times. I didn't know she did FS until out last visit together. Her DUI really set her back. Oh good times.[/QUOTE]I was just thinking of Juliette the other day. Wonder what happened to her. She never opened up to me about her personal life, but she knew I was in love with her and treated me well.

I've noticed a big influx of new providers on the ad site. Many ads seem to be copied from escort alligator. Just curious as to why. I.

Aaska Tom.

[QUOTE=NothingToDo;4732059]I was just thinking of Juliette the other day. Wonder what happened to her. She never opened up to me about her personal life, but she knew I was in love with her and treated me well.[/QUOTE]She was amazing. Those tits, those legs, that mouth. Damn she needs to come back. Others like jennevencia or something like that and Andee have been my favorites. Andee had that wholesome college athletics body was one of the best.

Steve has had some amazing ladies through the years. I would need a calculator to figure out how many appointments I have scheduled through Steve and I have only had one bad one which he fixed immediately.

[QUOTE=Numbnutts;4732296]She was amazing. Those tits, those legs, that mouth. Damn she needs to come back. Others like jennevencia or something like that and Andee have been my favorites. Andee had that wholesome college athletics body was one of the best.

Steve has had some amazing ladies through the years. I would need a calculator to figure out how many appointments I have scheduled through Steve and I have only had one bad one which he fixed immediately.[/QUOTE]Marianne, another of Steve's was a gorgeous lady.

[QUOTE=Admin2;4730975]People like you are fueling this ridiculous hysteria around C-19. No, if you get Covid you most likely will not even know that you have it. If you're in a risk group then yes there is a chance that you will die. A chance not a certainty. Covid is not ebola.

These are the most recent numbers for the worldwide distribution of deaths due to corona.

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/[/URL]

If you are under 40 with no underlying conditions your chance of survival is 99.8 percent if you're over 40 then it jumps to the astonishingly poor rate of 99.6%.

These numbers are based on confirmed cases only with the horribly inadequate testing that has been done. Once real testing starts the morbidity rate (people who have it) is going to skyrocket, and the mortality rate (percent of people who die from it that have it) is going to drop like a fucking rock. Something to the tune of. 000 something mortality rate. Right now, at this moment when expressed as a percentage the total number of deaths from corona is 0. 0008% of the world population. This is not a Jerry Bruckheimer movie, humanity is not engaged in a desperate fight for it's survival.

Why couldn't corona have aggressively targeted stupid people instead of grandmas and grandpas.[/QUOTE]And statistically the 25 year old provider who theoretically gave me COVID 19 because she can't quit working will get a respirator before my old ass does should the hospitals be overwhelmed. No one knows what the percentages are of people who contract it end up in the hospital but right now in real time if you end up in the ICU in NYC you have a 20% chance of walking out alive. And there is no discrimination. Any way anyone wants to spin it it's one hellava lot deadlier than the flu. And I really don't understand how hard it is to go without pussy for 2-3 months. Especially if it means you don't pass it on to Mom and Dad or the Grandparents. It's a pandemic. It's a novel virus with no vaccine or cure available. There is absolutely no harm for anyone taking extreme precautions for 2-3 months.

Was it only my imagination, but wasn't there used to be a Main Forum thread (not in Ohio, but the main Forum page) that dealt with discussions specifically about porn stars that do escorting on the side? I could have sworn it was on USSG; or maybe it was on the now defunct "large canine" site. Anyone remember that?

No, it's probably not going to kill you, even if you're over 70, though at that point the death rate may be well into the teens percentage wise at that age group. And it's a little fickle about exactly who it decides to kill.

Iit's far more dangerous than any STD out there. The infection rate in the USA overall and maybe even Ohio is probably higher than chlamydia, the most common STD, at this point, and will be much higher within a week to a few weeks. There's no STD that's going to kill you at this point, most likely, even HIV, given the treatments, and it's really hard for an uncircumcised male to get HIV even from unprotected sex with an infected woman. COVID-19, however, you walk into the room with the woman and there's a good chance you'll get it. You have sex with her and you almost certainly will. Even if the likely death rate for the general population is under 1%, or even under 0. 5%, which I think it is, it's still way higher than from any STD. And there's no protection you can use that's going to work, unless maybe anyone has a haz-mat suit with a zipper fly, which I still think would take the fun out of it.

[QUOTE=JimJaimes;4733995]And statistically the 25 year old provider who theoretically gave me COVID 19 because she can't quit working will get a respirator before my old ass does should the hospitals be overwhelmed. No one knows what the percentages are of people who contract it end up in the hospital but right now in real time if you end up in the ICU in NYC you have a 20% chance of walking out alive. And there is no discrimination. Any way anyone wants to spin it it's one hellava lot deadlier than the flu. And I really don't understand how hard it is to go without pussy for 2-3 months. Especially if it means you don't pass it on to Mom and Dad or the Grandparents. It's a pandemic. It's a novel virus with no vaccine or cure available. There is absolutely no harm for anyone taking extreme precautions for 2-3 months.[/QUOTE]The 25 year old won't need a respirator and if my ass was old I wouldn't even talk to anybody these days. Same if I had asthma, or was obese, or was in any of the other risk groups.

I'm not, I don't smoke, I hit the gym 5 times a week, if I caught it I would most likely be in the 94% in my age group who survive. Not does the 25 year old provider. No harm? Tell that to the 65 year old newly retired person who can no longer enter the work force and just lost 45% of their retirement portfolio. Tell that to the 25 year old bartender that is about to be homeless and lose whatever insurance coverage he had next year during flu season.

No harm. 250,000 people a year died in the US last year as a direct result of poverty, tell the extra 100 K who die next year that they are not being harmed.

IF Covid-19 Stats are of interest to you here are two websites aggregating the pandemics related info.

[URL]https://ncov2019.live/[/URL]

And something similar from Johns Hopkins.

[URL]https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;4735014]IF Covid-19 Stats are of interest to you here are two websites aggregating the pandemics related info.
[URL]https://ncov2019.live/[/URL]
And something similar from Johns Hopkins.
[URL]https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. Though if anyone really believes that China only had 82-83000 cases and only 3000+ deaths up to now, they are smoking some quality shit.

[QUOTE=DNut;4734449]Was it only my imagination, but wasn't there used to be a Main Forum thread (not in Ohio, but the main Forum page) that dealt with discussions specifically about porn stars that do escorting on the side? I could have sworn it was on USSG; or maybe it was on the now defunct "large canine" site. Anyone remember that?[/QUOTE]Was on Indys. I remember it.

[QUOTE=DNut;4734449]Was it only my imagination, but wasn't there used to be a Main Forum thread (not in Ohio, but the main Forum page) that dealt with discussions specifically about porn stars that do escorting on the side? I could have sworn it was on USSG; or maybe it was on the now defunct "large canine" site. Anyone remember that?[/QUOTE]TER had a huge forum along those lines. I'm still a "VIP" member, but the forums there went to shit after the shutdown.