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[QUOTE=Ronaroo; 1211461]I have been stood up by her 2x now. I want to meet this lovely lady, but I also like gals who respect their clients time as much as their own.
Its too bad these working gals don't practice what they preach. [/QUOTE]Can we get a full story? Did she give you a reason? Was it on short notice? This is intriguing because bad reports about her are rare.
[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1213278]Actually, Jay, in all seriousness, it's refreshing to find a "babe" like Abby in the biz. Not only because of her beauty, but because of her intellect as well as her sense of humor. I consider myself lucky that she moved here back around the holidays and that I've gotten to know her a little. As a regular client of hers, I can only be supportive of whatever she does. You only live once is such a worn-out phrase. Anything short of mad passionate living is a waste of time. Abby has taught me that. And, for that, I'm grateful that she came to Indy. I'm not from here. I came to this area several years ago and didn't have a regular until she showed up. Bottom line? And I hope I'm not offending anyone with these remarks, I'd rather throw a few roses Abby's way to drop hot yogurt all over her than to date any of the fat, disgusting Hoosier women that I've seen in this state (and I'm not talking about other providers here). And, well I don't need to tell anyone from Indiana, this state is chalk full of the Hoosier cattle. If any of you knew where I worked, I'd just have you visit my office because many of the cows seem to work there with me. And with where they position their tattoos, it's like they could float around like those blimps that you see at football games with the advertising on their sides or underbellies. It's the most repugnant place of business in the Midwest. And so, all in one post now, I've managed to write about the beauty and grace of a unique, awesome provider to a subject where I'm about to yack up my spaghetti. Again, sorry for the lewd comments.
Keeping it real.
BFDeal. [/QUOTE]WOW! You judge a whole state's opposite sex by the women you work with? Would you take an opposite view if you worked at Brads? To be fair I'm not from Indiana either. But I have to say there are lots of attractive women here. Providers included. And this place has the nicest women of any place I have lived. Thats just my opinion.
I've been to Brad's and I agree with you, and I'm not talking about the providers in this state. The 2 or 3 I've met are attractive. When I need clothes, I usually go to Keystone at the Crossing, and the women who stroll around that place are hot. But when it comes to some of the corn-fed beefers I've seen in central Indiana, I'm not just talking about where I work. Walk in Kroger, Meijer or Walmart some time in towns like Beech Grove or Greenwood. Or better yet, go to an Applebee's in Greenfield or Shelbyville some time (my job requires some travel to the southern / eastern cities) around lunch or 1 pm on a Wednesday or Thursday. Check out the herd in those places. And what do you mean by nice? You must eat at Ruth Chris or Puccini's. Yes, the female servers and some of the chicks who eat there are hot and most are very nice. But try hitting one of the aforementioned Applebee's on one of those days I wrote about. I was at one of them last week, and 2 cows with their fat kids sat in one of those corner "oversized" tables, and before I left I walked by the table (they had just left) to use the restroom. It looked like a tornado zone. Leaving a table like that is the epitome of rude. After seeing some of the porkers I've seen in this state, sometimes I have to ask myself, do they even look in a mirror before they leave their house?
Just my. 02.
BFD.
[QUOTE=Osirusss;1213318]WOW! You judge a whole state's opposite sex by the women you work with? Would you take an opposite view if you worked at Brads? To be fair I'm not from Indiana either. But I have to say there are lots of attractive women here. Providers included. And this place has the nicest women of any place I have lived. Thats just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
[quote]I didn't mean to upset anyone here, and I know I am probably missing out on her.
But my brain works perfectly fine and she plain stood me up 2x.
On Monday she tells me she was in car accident 1 hr before appt then blows me off for 2 days
But I giver her benefit of the doubt and reschedule for thur.
Where she completely ignores me. Then she tells me 10 hrs later she lost her phone.
Well she had my email addy and could have should have let me know.
Sucks for me and now for her bc she obviously has some issues that are all here for the masses to read[/quote]I've got issues for the masses to read? Why don't we tell the whole story-how you kept sending me text after text, how I didn't have a good feeling about you and how it took about a month for me to actually schedule something with you, after you had someone go out of her way to text me to tell me you were fine. I mean-if someone consistently ignores you for a month, wouldn't you get the hint they weren't interested in you?
So, after finally scheduling with you, I arrived at the hotel-didn't check in-and started getting bad vibes again. You'd think that an hour notice would be sufficient.
And then, after I cancelled on you the first time, you started whining, texting me all the time, and after ignoring you for a couple of days with your persistent texts, I figured I'd give you another shot, against my better judgement-and based on the screenshots of the texts you sent me, you have proven that my fears of you were accurate, and I'm glad I cancelled on you again.
[QUOTE=AbbyAmour;1213641]I've got issues for the masses to read? [/QUOTE]That's my girl!
BTW, how do you get those phone screen shots?
First off, this has to go down as a lesson for any provider reading this (besides Abby). It's obviously wise to be extremely cautious and thorough in your screening/selection process. I'm so lucky I don't have to do anything like that.
But more than anything, this is a classic example of how we lose great providers. Ten more guys like this and I'd offer to help Abby pack. I think I read one of her ads on a Web site somewhere that said the following:
"Turnoffs: Losers, annoying people."
Now I think we know what she meant by that.
But I can't sign off without mentioning something about what he posted. I call it the understatement of the year: "And I know I'm probably missing out on her."
Dude, ya think?
Play safe and keep it real.
BFDeal.
[QUOTE=AbbyAmour; 1213641]I've got issues for the masses to read? Why don't we tell the whole story-how you kept sending me text after text, how I didn't have a good feeling about you and how it took about a month for me to actually schedule something with you, after you had someone go out of her way to text me to tell me you were fine. I mean-if someone consistently ignores you for a month, wouldn't you get the hint they weren't interested in you?
So, after finally scheduling with you, I arrived at the hotel-didn't check in-and started getting bad vibes again. You'd think that an hour notice would be sufficient.
And then, after I cancelled on you the first time, you started whining, texting me all the time, and after ignoring you for a couple of days with your persistent texts, I figured I'd give you another shot, against my better judgement-and based on the screenshots of the texts you sent me, you have proven that my fears of you were accurate, and I'm glad I cancelled on you again. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AbbyAmour; 1213641]I've got issues for the masses to read? Why don't we tell the whole story-how you kept sending me text after text, how I didn't have a good feeling about you and how it took about a month for me to actually schedule something with you, after you had someone go out of her way to text me to tell me you were fine. I mean-if someone consistently ignores you for a month, wouldn't you get the hint they weren't interested in you?
So, after finally scheduling with you, I arrived at the hotel-didn't check in-and started getting bad vibes again. You'd think that an hour notice would be sufficient.
And then, after I cancelled on you the first time, you started whining, texting me all the time, and after ignoring you for a couple of days with your persistent texts, I figured I'd give you another shot, against my better judgement-and based on the screenshots of the texts you sent me, you have proven that my fears of you were accurate, and I'm glad I cancelled on you again. [/QUOTE]I can't imagine any woman seeing the guy after reading the screenshots he sent Abby. Cancelling an appointment, cancelling two appoints is no reason for those screenshots. He is wound much too tight.
So Abby is supposed to make it up to him? She's supposed to find out what he has in mind, make-up wise, after going behind closed door?
I have to think how he acted after the first appointment was cancelled likely drove the second cancellation.
Here is the problem with her reports.
None of those texts were sent until after she stood me up twice. Twice I drove 35 new at $4 / gallon.
If she is such a sweetheart of a gem then she just stood have been honest and canceled on me.
Tell me you think I am a cop, there is 0 reason to not trust me or not like me. I have plenty of good references from lacy and gia and viva and formerly mc. Bell I even saw her girlfriend autumn just so Abby would verify me.
Let me repeat I never emailed or texted her anything nasty until she lied and stood me up 2x.
Again she admitted lying about a car accident bc she had second thoughts about seeing me,
Fine no problem then tell me you don't trust me and that you think I am a pig and I will move on.
But don't schedule with me again and stand me up again and then lie to me about both days.
Wow, you don't think I have a good reason to be pissed, yeah she might be hot but she will be old and wrinkly some day and there will be another hot young than to replace her
The sad thing is I am a nice guy and every gal I have met would say so.
Dude, you came on this board and flew off at the handle about how Abby canceled on you, then she posts your lurid texts, and we're supposed to believe you're a nice guy? Abby is a well-respected member of this board and many others as well as a top-notch provider in the area, not to mention a true lady and a sweetheart in every sense of the word. Abby and I have had a couple conversations about other providers in the area and she hasn't had one negative thing to say about anyone, and I'm sure she feels the same way about hobbyists and prospective hobbyists until someone sets her off, and that someone was you when you sent those texts to her. You can't call yourself a "nice guy" and send texts like that to anybody, and then say maybe we can still get together. WTF? Advice. When someone cancels on you and you still want to see her, say something like,"too bad we couldn't hook up this time, maybe we can shoot for some time soon." That's what a nice guy would write, one that would hold out any hope in seeing her. I can't imagine how providers go through life when they've got to deal with "nice guys" like you. Have you ever checked into anger management, Mr. Nice Guy? Please, rather than play "he said, she said" on here and turn this into something that resembles a rancid Springer episode, let's just stop this nonsense now and move on to more pleasant topics, like the Indiana Fever's season-opening win or how the humidity has finally drifted off and nice, cool evenings are ahead. Yes, that's it. I wrote "nice" and meant it! As far as Ms. Amour is concerned, she has earned my support and respect on here, as well as many other members of this board. If a lady like that ever calls me a "nice guy," I would consider it an honor.
Play safe and keep it real.
BFDeal.
[QUOTE=Ronaroo; 1213835]Here is the problem with her reports.
None of those texts were sent until after she stood me up twice. Twice I drove 35 new at $4 / gallon.
If she is such a sweetheart of a gem then she just stood have been honest and canceled on me.
Tell me you think I am a cop, there is 0 reason to not trust me or not like me. I have plenty of good references from lacy and gia and viva and formerly mc. Bell I even saw her girlfriend autumn just so Abby would verify me.
Let me repeat I never emailed or texted her anything nasty until she lied and stood me up 2x.
Again she admitted lying about a car accident bc she had second thoughts about seeing me,
Fine no problem then tell me you don't trust me and that you think I am a pig and I will move on.
But don't schedule with me again and stand me up again and then lie to me about both days.
Wow, you don't think I have a good reason to be pissed, yeah she might be hot but she will be old and wrinkly some day and there will be another hot young than to replace her
The sad thing is I am a nice guy and every gal I have met would say so. [/QUOTE]
I came on USASG because it was a good place to share. This drama is beginning to sound like some of the boards I used to look at. I am not opposed to sharing information but drama is another thing. I know I am not the old man on the block but if the guys know a woman by her reports and reputation nuff said. Take what you read with a grain of salt and move on it would seem. Let's talk about the "good stuff" and pm the other. Me, just give me a good lady reasonably available, who loves to digest all I have to offer her in my dreams and allow me to fill almost all the nooks and crannies, is drama and dse free, and I might try to dream as often as I can with her. Not asking to much is it?
Have a good day all and enjoy this cool weather with the dream of your choice.
Big Mack
Or not, LOL.
Ronaroo, I almost felt for you for a moment. I've been there with a past provider that was pretty skittish about me. Cancelled on me twice as I was driving to our meeting, even getting one of my regulars kinda freaked out about seeing me again until I was able to offer her some new assurances. Really had me frustrated. So, I could understand that frustration from you.
But you know how THIS "nice guy" handled it? I told her I was disappointed, that I thought I'd done and given her everything I could, but I empathize with her position of keeping herself safe. As mad as I might have been at the wasted time I'd spent, I really did understand her position. She viewed me as a risk, right or wrong, and her being scared does not lead to a nice time for you anyway. So, I kept my head, treated her respectfully and moved on. There was no point in going off like you had. In sales, we call that "getting your needs met". It never does anyone any good. If you need to kick the dog, get a dog. But you just can't ever go off like that on a provider. They don't deserve it (well, maybe the robbing & thieving scam artists might) , and you just trashed your own rep. In my case, keeping cool paid off. Eventually, like months later, I ending up seeing her. Things worked out.
Abby, way to conduct yourself, yet again, with class. I apologize to you for Ronaroo, as you didn't deserve being treated that way. You can only do what you can do, and whatever that is to keep yourself safe and comfortable is your perogative. I would suggest, though, to all providers, and this is just a suggestion, that making excuses to avoid conflict often leads to greater conflict. When you don't feel right, just say so, get the fight over with and move on. I don't have one, but I'm sure there's a way to block texts from unwanteds, or at least just don't respond to shit like in those texts. I know it's tempting, and I've been drawn into more of those kinds of things in life than I care to remember, but silence is often the deadlier weapon in these matters. Not that you didn't deserve to respond to these public rants, and it seems that both your regulars, as well as wannabees like me can appreciate your position. I love how cordially you responded in those texts, ie,"Buttercup". Hilarious. I've learned this myself the hard way, over and over again.
TA2
[QUOTE=Jay War;1211563]I don't post much cause there is a bunch of BS most of the time but I will go to bat for Abby any day of the week. If you have been stood up by her twice I'm going to say you know why you just don't want to say. She is not only perfect in a physical attribute kind of way (she is a goddess) but also as a respectable provider. She is top notch at communication and has never been late let alone stood me up.[/QUOTE]Very perceptive post here JW. Kudos to you as you nailed ole Ronaroo on his BS from the get go. Definitely post more often as you have something to say.
It is a shame that any provider has to endure such ridicule. An official poo flinging contest conducted by the likes of Ronaroo here. Then the guy has ballz enough to outright call Abbey on being unreliable, as if she isn't going to out him for being such a dirtbag. Great going to Abbey for lambasting him for such vitriolic texts.
And Ronaroo should hold his phone under the faucet and wash its keypad out with soap and water for producing such offensive messages. That is unbelievable to me that you would send such garb. You obviously sent those msgs and my advice to you dude is get a check-up from the neck-up, cause something isn't right there brother. You are needing more than a few visits from Dr Phil over that trash that you conveyed. Go see someone NOW.
[QUOTE=Tryinagain2; 1214005]Or not, LOL.
Ronaroo, I almost felt for you for a moment. I've been there with a past provider that was pretty skittish about me. Cancelled on me twice as I was driving to our meeting, even getting one of my regulars kinda freaked out about seeing me again until I was able to offer her some new assurances. Really had me frustrated. So, I could understand that frustration from you.
But you know how THIS "nice guy" handled it? I told her I was disappointed, that I thought I'd done and given her everything I could, but I empathize with her position of keeping herself safe. As mad as I might have been at the wasted time I'd spent, I really did understand her position. She viewed me as a risk, right or wrong, and her being scared does not lead to a nice time for you anyway. So, I kept my head, treated her respectfully and moved on. There was no point in going off like you had. In sales, we call that "getting your needs met". It never does anyone any good. If you need to kick the dog, get a dog. But you just can't ever go off like that on a provider. They don't deserve it (well, maybe the robbing & thieving scam artists might) , and you just trashed your own rep. In my case, keeping cool paid off. Eventually, like months later, I ending up seeing her. Things worked out.
Abby, way to conduct yourself, yet again, with class. I apologize to you for Ronaroo, as you didn't deserve being treated that way. You can only do what you can do, and whatever that is to keep yourself safe and comfortable is your perogative. I would suggest, though, to all providers, and this is just a suggestion, that making excuses to avoid conflict often leads to greater conflict. When you don't feel right, just say so, get the fight over with and move on. I don't have one, but I'm sure there's a way to block texts from unwanteds, or at least just don't respond to shit like in those texts. I know it's tempting, and I've been drawn into more of those kinds of things in life than I care to remember, but silence is often the deadlier weapon in these matters. Not that you didn't deserve to respond to these public rants, and it seems that both your regulars, as well as wannabees like me can appreciate your position. I love how cordially you responded in those texts, ie,"Buttercup". Hilarious. I've learned this myself the hard way, over and over again.
TA2[/QUOTE]I do mean well said. I was going to say that it was rather stupid to even post such as Ronaroo did given all the positive comments over the past regarding Abby. Just reading this board would have indicated one, especially a new member, should be cautious in calling her out as he did. I would have further said that maybe he should have recognized that a private message to a senior member or one who has seen her would have been more appropriate. Calling one stupid would have been incorrect of me and I think TA2 said it well, I mean well, which is why I am so glad I did not post my comments about being stupid!
All these recent posts show why every message on this forum should be screened before it appears. Once again a whole bunch of space is being taken up by absolutely worthless posts. I have to admit tho I get a hearty laugh every time someone gushes all over a provider that allows them the "honor" of paying to fuck her. And she laughs all the way to the bank. Then there's the guys that cry like babies cause some provider won't see them. Get over it, there's a blue million of them, ain't hard to find either. Time to quit this lockeroom crap and get back to business.
Good post.
[QUOTE=Tryinagain2;1214005](edit delete) Ronaroo, I almost felt for you for a moment. I've been there with a past provider that was pretty skittish about me. Cancelled on me twice as I was driving to our meeting, even getting one of my regulars kinda freaked out about seeing me again until I was able to offer her some new assurances. Really had me frustrated. So, I could understand that frustration from you. (edit delete) TA2[/QUOTE]We fail to appreciate the girl's point of view. The job entails going behind closed doors with strange men. She is often small and we are often quite large. The risks of the job are several and serious, and we are often aware of only the basic ones. Even something happening during a noon appointment with Guy A can upset her and impact her emotional ability to keep an appointment with Guy B later in the day.
The job entails keeping from family and friends what is really going on. She must cover her tracks all the time. I doubt any of us appreciate the difficulty of leading a double life in the work life. The job may not be 24/7 but maintaining a work double life away from family and friends is 24/7 and I bet the emails she must respond to are also 24/7.
So the challenges are more than looking good all the time. All sorts of things can get in the way of her keeping an appointment including one that she confirmed minutes earlier.
Even when things in her life go perfectly I don't think it is all that easy to walk in the door with a smile on her face and always be backed up by a smile inside. My hat goes off to the girls who manage to pull it off and act for an hour but nobody can pull everything off every time.
Girls are fickle, God love them. Today may not feel right. This is part of being a girl. Girls need space and when she needs space she needs it NOW. This goes with the territory dealing with girls. There are things that make them different. We have to understand and appreciate the differences.
What happens if she calls to say she is sorry but she must cancel? Will that be a 30 second phone call? I doubt it. I bet some of us expect, as in demand, to reschedule on the spot. Maybe she is not able to see her schedule clearly at the moment. There are those of us who whine about not getting to see her as we were so looking forward to, yak yak yak. I bet some of us act childish. Some of us become angry as shown by those who run to a message board to post, "I just got stood up."
Friends, we are not stood up unless we are there and she is not. Give her the benefit of all doubt. Understand.
Many or some don't understand. So for her sanity she texts she must cancel and she's sorry and she'll get back in touch later. That should be the end of it for the present. But often times she is rewarded by a guy replying by phone or text, or a series of phone calls or texts with machine-gun rapidity containing drama or whatever, showing immaturity, maybe anger, on his part, and now, due to our reaction showing a true side we become the last guy in the world she will ever go with behind closed doors.
We as guys get what we deserve when we deal with a girl. Be understanding.