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Who cares how you get there. Dead is dead.
People dying on the streets because of drug and mental health issues are much more prevalent yet much less worried about than sneeze victims.
Your Dr license is suspect.
[QUOTE=DrDave39;4704300]You don't catch homelessness from somebody sneezing in a room 3 days before you got there, brushing your hand on the arm of that chair, then rubbing your eye. Just saying.
The good dr.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;4703755]Find it amusing that barebacking does not seem to scare anyone but the coronavirus does.[/QUOTE]I don't know about you but I'm looking for ole Amon 777 that used to post on here so he could give me a lead on a SW that does BBFS, BBDATY and hasn't showered or wiped her ass in a week with a slight cough. Anyone? Play safe.
I've added a new rule to my personal code. Well, more like guidelines than rules. If she posts or sends a snapchat filtered photo, run away and don't look back. You know, the ones with the cutesey little cat ears or teddy bear noses or whatever the f'k they are. Those filters can transform a girl that looks like Broomhilda into Cinderella. Trust me as I speak from experience: if she's using a filter, it's because she has to. Be safe, and don't say I didn't warn you.
[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4704570]Who cares how you get there. Dead is dead.
People dying on the streets because of drug and mental health issues are much more prevalent yet much less worried about than sneeze victims.
Your Dr license is suspect.[/QUOTE]The problems of mental illness and homelessness are extremely complex. People disagree on the best steps to take, and taking action next month rather than today will not make much difference in the overall outcome. (If you encounter a homeless person tonight who is on the point of freezing to death, that is a different story.) However, there is general agreement about what to do about coronavirus, and washing hands, keeping social distance, etc. , RIGHT NOW, will make a difference in the course of the pandemic.
[QUOTE=Golden3;4705917]The problems of mental illness and homelessness are extremely complex. People disagree on the best steps to take, and taking action next month rather than today will not make much difference in the overall outcome. (If you encounter a homeless person tonight who is on the point of freezing to death, that is a different story.) However, there is general agreement about what to do about coronavirus, and washing hands, keeping social distance, etc. , RIGHT NOW, will make a difference in the course of the pandemic.[/QUOTE]If either party in a hookup has covid-19, the chance of transmitting it is extremely high. The risk associated with getting it is way higher than the risk of getting most STDs. Even HIV at this point can be treated and controlled. The others, outside of some still rare outlier resistant strains, are easily treated with antibiotics and non-fatal. With coronavirus, chance of dying is north of 1% by current research if you're over 50, well into the teen percentages as you get older. Even if you're not older, you become a carrier who can easily transmit the disease to someone more vulnerable. At this point, keeping this from overloading the health care system so we don't run out of beds, ventilators and health workers for the people who need them is the main concern. You can't stop the spread, but you can slow it down so that it's manageable for the next 18 months until there's a vaccine. The alternative is some folks basically getting triaged to death gasping out their last breaths as their organs shut down from lack of oxygen because there's no room in the ICU.
The chance of a provider catching this and being a super spreader is high. Ohio Dept. Of Health believes 1% of the population already has this, a number that could double every six days without preventive measures. How many guys do some of these providers see in a week? And you can transmit it well before you have symptoms. There may be a treatment or two identified to help make the worst cases less bad within a month or two, but no guarantees.
The risk here is way beyond STDs for us and for society. I got to think hard about even seeing regular UTRs who I believe (but who ever really knows?) are low volume, but probably not. Seeing anyone else who may be doing dozens of guys a week is just nuts.
While the providers themselves are mostly younger and less at risk, I'm not sure what may qualify as a condition that could make them more vulnerable. Diabetes certainly. Heroin usage? Smoking? Dunno, but a lot are less healthy than the general population.
This is not the flu. It's at least 10 times deadlier than a typical flu. Maybe 23 times deadlier. Last numbers I saw were 0. 1% death rate for a typical flu vs. 2. 3% in the general global population from covid-19.
[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4704570]Who cares how you get there. Dead is dead.
People dying on the streets because of drug and mental health issues are much more prevalent yet much less worried about than sneeze victims.
Your Dr license is suspect.[/QUOTE]Vinnie, there are multiple serious issues that kill people, granted. But COVID-19 has the potential to spread like wildfire if people don't massively reduce social interaction. You can't become homeless because someone walks past a homeless enclosure then sneezes in you office- you CAN catch COVID-19 that way. And you're not "immune" if you're otherwise young and healthy- we are seeing SERIOUS lung damage in younger folks who recover from the actual virus- want to wheeze and struggle to make it up stairs the rest of your life? You can die from it "second hand" quite easily as well- in Italy (which has MORE doctors and hospital beds per capita than the US) people have already dies because they came to the hospital with serious medical issues that normally would be handled- but there were no intubation stations or ICU beds available as they are all overwhelmed with serious COVID-19 cases. So yeah, anyone with a doctor's license (except for say that narcissistic dickhead Drew Pinsky) should, and is, taking this very seriously. You should, too.
Peace.
TGD.
[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;4706168]If either party in a hookup has covid-19, the chance of transmitting it is extremely high. The risk associated with getting it is way higher than the risk of getting most STDs. Even HIV at this point can be treated and controlled. The others, outside of some still rare outlier resistant strains, are easily treated with antibiotics and non-fatal. With coronavirus, chance of dying is north of 1% by current research if you're over 50, well into the teen percentages as you get older. Even if you're not older, you become a carrier who can easily transmit the disease to someone more vulnerable. At this point, keeping this from overloading the health care system so we don't run out of beds, ventilators and health workers for the people who need them is the main concern. You can't stop the spread, but you can slow it down so that it's manageable for the next 18 months until there's a vaccine. The alternative is some folks basically getting triaged to death gasping out their last breaths as their organs shut down from lack of oxygen because there's no room in the ICU.
The chance of a provider catching this and being a super spreader is high. Ohio Dept. Of Health believes 1% of the population already has this, a number that could double every six days without preventive measures. How many guys do some of these providers see in a week? And you can transmit it well before you have symptoms. There may be a treatment or two identified to help make the worst cases less bad within a month or two, but no guarantees.
The risk here is way beyond STDs for us and for society. I got to think hard about even seeing regular UTRs who I believe (but who ever really knows?) are low volume, but probably not. Seeing anyone else who may be doing dozens of guys a week is just nuts.
While the providers themselves are mostly younger and less at risk, I'm not sure what may qualify as a condition that could make them more vulnerable. Diabetes certainly. Heroin usage? Smoking? Dunno, but a lot are less healthy than the general population.
This is not the flu. It's at least 10 times deadlier than a typical flu. Maybe 23 times deadlier. Last numbers I saw were 0. 1% death rate for a typical flu vs. 2. 3% in the general global population from covid-19.[/QUOTE]That.
Very well stated and absolutely true. Let me add no one has ever died from NOT getting laid for a month!
The good dr.
HIV is a fucking killer! That's a fact! How stupid can you be? There is no cure for it that's point blank! Herpes is another it may not kill you but you have it for life. One girl told me just put some cream on it and its okay. Fuck that. This virus will go away it is like the flu that was spread during WWI. That killed thousands of Americans when out troops came home. I myself is seeing only one provider. I started that 3 months go. So if your so afraid then stop fucking your wives and girlfriends too. Put a body condom on too where ever you go! This shit is bat shit crazy!! You can't even buy toilet paper in the stores what a fucking joke. And for you Anal and Greek lovers that hole is nasty. Now they can't wipe their ases clean. Totally nasty!! I will not stop having sex thru all of this cause most of this is over reaction and stupid. Yep I said BAT who in the fuck is eating bats that's what started this. I will keep on fucking lenny6746.
[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;4703755]Find it amusing that barebacking does not seem to scare anyone but the coronavirus does.[/QUOTE]Dave has a point, but there are important differences to consider regarding COVID-19.
I think all of us have taken unwise risks with women before, even if only with civilians. (One of my minor traumas of some years past involved a pregnancy scare with a sort-of girlfriend, who wasn't a provider.) In many people's estimation, hobbyists, ipso facto, are foolishly risk-tolerant fellows.
Here's the difference, though: STDs, LEO, etc involve relatively known risks that we have all factored in and made decisions about. For example, most of us have an opinion about BBFS. (I choose to avoid it with 99% of all pros, but that's just me.).
COVID-19, however, is an (unknown) unknown, and you can't protect yourself with a condom, or by using a burner phone and checking reviews to make sure a provider is legit. We are therefore in completely unknown territory, until this settles down or there's a vaccine. Hence the hyper-cautious attitude among so many guys who are otherwise risk-takers.
WASH YOUR DICK SKINNERS with SOAP and WATER! For 20 seconds!! Wow that's hard to do!! For the younger mongers on here That means YOUR HANDS! As far as BBFS that's all I do. I've never caught any STDs from any provider I've been with or any woman I've been with. I'm always getting checked By my health provider Thats for my safety and the women I have sex with. Play safe wash your hands!! Lenny 6746.
[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4706998]I've never caught any STDs from any provider I've been with or any woman I've been with. Lenny 6746.[/QUOTE]This sounds like you've been with guys, too?!
[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4706377]HIV is a fucking killer! That's a fact! How stupid can you be? There is no cure for it that's point blank! Herpes is another it may not kill you but you have it for life. One girl told me just put some cream on it and its okay. Fuck that. This virus will go away it is like the flu that was spread during WWI. That killed thousands of Americans when out troops came home. I myself is seeing only one provider. I started that 3 months go. So if your so afraid then stop fucking your wives and girlfriends too. Put a body condom on too where ever you go! This shit is bat shit crazy!! You can't even buy toilet paper in the stores what a fucking joke. And for you Anal and Greek lovers that hole is nasty. Now they can't wipe their ases clean. Totally nasty!! I will not stop having sex thru all of this cause most of this is over reaction and stupid. Yep I said BAT who in the fuck is eating bats that's what started this. I will keep on fucking lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Your mentality on this is literally what's wrong with this country and world culturally. So much entitlement.
Bengal dingle I don't do men Or anal. You could be into that! Not me. My mentality rate Mr new senior monger is fine. Go out and find yourself a LBFM. That's what you need to prove your a true Monger. I stay with our fantastic American providers! For your information the STDs have been on the rise for months now. I know of three that have HIV and are selling their asses. And a lot of you mongers are sticking your dicks into their ass thinking that's fine. What a fucking joke. BBBJ for your information is another way to get STDs and take it home to your loved one. Come on now lets get real!! This virus is real. I understand that. But I'm still going to live my life style the way I always have just with more caution!! Lenny6746.
[QUOTE=BengalMan;4707397]This sounds like you've been with guys, too?![/QUOTE]Pro vs civilian I'm sure is what he meant.
[QUOTE=Muncher2323;4707403]Your mentality on this is literally what's wrong with this country and world culturally. So much entitlement.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Had nothing to do with bats or any other animal. That was the first rumour.
They broadcasted it on the nightly news showing the wild animals the Chinese eat. They were in cages. And now its a RUMOR?? They eat dogs too I bet you think that's a rumor too! And the Chinese government banned the markets from selling these animals after it was found that's where the virus came from. Did you wash your hands for 20 seconds today with soap and water today or did you drop it in the shower and Bengal dingel came over and help you out. Play safe Lenny6746.
Didn't hear that they banned d shit like that. They need to close the wet markets all together. But the rich and powerful in China believe that eating bat gizzards monkey blood or whatever the current rage is will keep their packers stiff.
Seasonal flu comes mostly from ducks and other fowl in the same wet markets. It happens every year. Closing up those shitholes would do world health a world of good.
[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4707993]They broadcasted it on the nightly news showing the wild animals the Chinese eat. They were in cages. And now its a RUMOR?? They eat dogs too I bet you think that's a rumor too! And the Chinese government banned the markets from selling these animals after it was found that's where the virus came from. Did you wash your hands for 20 seconds today with soap and water today or did you drop it in the shower and Bengal dingel came over and help you out. Play safe Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TickleJay;4708652]Didn't hear that they banned d shit like that. They need to close the wet markets all together. But the rich and powerful in China believe that eating bat gizzards monkey blood or whatever the current rage is will keep their packers stiff.
Seasonal flu comes mostly from ducks and other fowl in the same wet markets. It happens every year. Closing up those shitholes would do world health a world of good.[/QUOTE]The Wet markets were banned years ago after the SARS epidemic was caused by a bat virus and then later reinitiated because the lack of the wet markets was a huge economic loss. The wet markets are mostly there for the rich to enjoy exotic fare. FYI. The seasonal flu is not caused from ducks and other fowl. The seasonal flu type A and type B with a number of mutations hence the numbers after are not caused. There have been flu's that have crossed over such as avian flu which was caused by chickens and swine flu which was caused by you guessed pigs.
There's a huge virology lab in Wuhan.
[URL]https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487[/URL]
The scientists at the lab, of course, test shit on lab animals. China is communist. Those scientists aren't making nearly enough $$. We (the USA) have strict policies on the proper disposal of these lab animals, including special incinerators so the 'experiments' don't make their way into the public sector.
Poor scientist China Man sells his used lab animals to the wet markets instead of just incinerating them (or properly disposing of them).
Of course, China will never admit to this. And will execute anyone from mainland China who offers proof of this.
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;4710216]There's a huge virology lab in Wuhan.
[URL]https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487[/URL]
The scientists at the lab, of course, test shit on lab animals. China is communist. Those scientists aren't making nearly enough $$. We (the USA) have strict policies on the proper disposal of these lab animals, including special incinerators so the 'experiments' don't make their way into the public sector.
Poor scientist China Man sells his used lab animals to the wet markets instead of just incinerating them (or properly disposing of them).
Of course, China will never admit to this. And will execute anyone from mainland China who offers proof of this.[/QUOTE]Entirely possible. I've had several patients recently who are certain this is a biological warfare attack. I gently pointed out that you don't start an attack by turning a pathogen loose on your own people and trashing your own economy. Far more likely is a saying attributed to Napolean (amongst others) -:
"Never assume a conspiracy, if simple stupidity will explain the facts".
The good dr.
Thank you for your report, Dr Dave you should have your nuts cut off for spreading rumors!! Hell I will do it for free with no office charge or fee! You act like a old woman any way!! Lenny6746.
[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4710835]Thank you for your report, Dr Dave you should have your nuts cut off for spreading rumors!! Hell I will do it for free with no office charge or fee! You act like a old woman any way!! Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Try re-reading my post slowly. Sound out the words if you need to.
Making sense of lenny's posts are half the fun.
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;4710216]There's a huge virology lab in Wuhan.
[URL]https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487[/URL]
The scientists at the lab, of course, test shit on lab animals. China is communist. Those scientists aren't making nearly enough $$. We (the USA) have strict policies on the proper disposal of these lab animals, including special incinerators so the 'experiments' don't make their way into the public sector.
Poor scientist China Man sells his used lab animals to the wet markets instead of just incinerating them (or properly disposing of them).
Of course, China will never admit to this. And will execute anyone from mainland China who offers proof of this.[/QUOTE]Everyone should read this. Molly don't just post shit to see her name. She is educated in the field of science an does her research.
When I 1st got in the hobby I generally stuck to using listcrawler to find providers. It had some fake ads then, but I've found they've always been pretty easy to identify. Seemed like 4 to 5 years ago there were at least 10 or so that advertised daily so never really had a hard time finding someone to have some fun with. Wow, now it has maybe 1 or so that might seem worth seeing and a whole lot of crap fake ads. I also had several of my favorites that seemed I could reach at least 2 at any given time but a lot of them have kinda disappeared. I use to see Anita on the east side very often because she was 10 minutes away and gave me great rates because I would come often. Milliana was a favorite but I have no clue what happened to her. I've seen Brittany more times than I can count and still do if I can't stir up anything new. The 2 Brooklyns were always an option (never seen B. Marie). Of course unfortunately we lost Cookie. Is it me or does it seem listcrawler is mostly a waste of time? I keep seeing ads for Savannah but not crazy over the Mitchell ave area. Also kinda seems like the talent around here is really going down hill.
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;4710216]There's a huge virology lab in Wuhan.
[URL]https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487[/URL]
The scientists at the lab, of course, test shit on lab animals. China is communist. Those scientists aren't making nearly enough $$. We (the USA) have strict policies on the proper disposal of these lab animals, including special incinerators so the 'experiments' don't make their way into the public sector.
Poor scientist China Man sells his used lab animals to the wet markets instead of just incinerating them (or properly disposing of them).
Of course, China will never admit to this. And will execute anyone from mainland China who offers proof of this.[/QUOTE]Molly,
You are an intelligent lady. Brilliant in fact. Far, far too smart for this right wing conspiracy foolishness.
[QUOTE=BengalMan;4711716]Molly,
You are an intelligent lady. Brilliant in fact. Far, far too smart for this right wing conspiracy foolishness.[/QUOTE]Usually you have to go see Scarlett to hear the crazy shit.
I guess I needed to state it was a rumor about the wet markets. Or 'right-wing conspiracy' (what the hell is that, anyway?
My bad.
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;4711918]I guess I needed to state it was a rumor about the wet markets. Or 'right-wing conspiracy' (what the hell is that, anyway?
My bad.[/QUOTE]Molly I wouldn't be too concerned about dumbass comments from RogerOver, I mean TechSticles. It's a hard for him to tell the difference between an 'outer space' conversation and an intellegent observation passed on by someone who obviouly has a brain with a helluva lot more capacity than his. What I have observed about RogerOPver / TechSticles is that he does infact have 2 brains! One is lost and the other one is out looking for it. Thanks for the info Molly on this 'Novel' virus.
[QUOTE=DickMorehead;4712306]Molly I wouldn't be too concerned about dumbass comments from RogerOver, I mean TechSticles. It's a hard for him to tell the difference between an 'outer space' conversation and an intellegent observation passed on by someone who obviouly has a brain with a helluva lot more capacity than his. What I have observed about RogerOPver / TechSticles is that he does infact have 2 brains! One is lost and the other one is out looking for it. Thanks for the info Molly on this 'Novel' virus.[/QUOTE]1st, I've done as much research on this fucking thing as anyone and Molly's assessment is about as accurate as possible with the information and disinformation WE have.
But I checked out of Twitter for awhile because I'm up to HERE with hearing about what is basically just a new strain of flu virus. Economy tanked, people's lives wrecked just so the media can push an agenda. Are we really discussing it on an ***** mongering website too?
[QUOTE=DickMorehead;4712306]Molly I wouldn't be too concerned about dumbass comments from RogerOver, I mean TechSticles. It's a hard for him to tell the difference between an 'outer space' conversation and an intellegent observation passed on by someone who obviouly has a brain with a helluva lot more capacity than his. What I have observed about RogerOPver / TechSticles is that he does infact have 2 brains! One is lost and the other one is out looking for it. Thanks for the info Molly on this 'Novel' virus.[/QUOTE]You're such an infected rectal prolapse. Now you're following me around the board, spouting stupid shit about two accounts being the same person. Why don't you go fuck that addict enthusiastic lauren? I mean, if you'll fuck that, you'll fuck anything.
I'm surprised you stopped sucking sadsuck's cock long enough to do it. I think that's the only review you have, so I'm not sure what you think makes you any expert on anything, except fucking old addicts and pathetically stalking me around the board. I'll bet you got so excited when I posted something that you could finally respond to. Pathetic shitbird.
I think you both need to take me up on my offer!! LOL Lenny6746.
[QUOTE=DickMorehead;4712306]Molly I wouldn't be too concerned about dumbass comments from RogerOver, I mean TechSticles. It's a hard for him to tell the difference between an 'outer space' conversation and an intellegent observation passed on by someone who obviouly has a brain with a helluva lot more capacity than his. What I have observed about RogerOPver / TechSticles is that he does infact have 2 brains! One is lost and the other one is out looking for it. Thanks for the info Molly on this 'Novel' virus.[/QUOTE]TechSticles reminds me of a joke from Neuro rounds: "He only has 3 neurons (brain cells) left. One is infected, the second is infarcted, and the 3rd is demented!
I didn't think Molly was pushing a conspiracy, just pointing out that sometimes bad things happen because people are greedy, stupid, and / or short-sighted. As we see many example of here, also known as "thinking with the small head".
Be safe.
Tgd.
Just be the beautiful sex kitten that you are your posts are fine, Lenny6746.
A 'Rump Ranger' by any other name is still a Rump Ranger! Speaking of Rump Ranger I guess that's how you know about "infected rectal prolapse".
Just curious if this lady is your twin sister or do you just copycat her style by changing you name whenever you stick your foot in you mouth? By the way let's count how many reviews you have, I know you have many bullshit posts that are 99% meaningless.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/46853096/[/URL]
[QUOTE=TechSticles;4712435]You're such an infected rectal prolapse. Now you're following me around the board, spouting stupid shit about two accounts being the same person. Why don't you go fuck that addict enthusiastic lauren? I mean, if you'll fuck that, you'll fuck anything.
I'm surprised you stopped sucking sadsuck's cock long enough to do it. I think that's the only review you have, so I'm not sure what you think makes you any expert on anything, except fucking old addicts and pathetically stalking me around the board. I'll bet you got so excited when I posted something that you could finally respond to. Pathetic shitbird.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;4711918]Or 'right-wing conspiracy' (what the hell is that, anyway?
[/QUOTE]Right wing conspiracy theories:
Obama was not born in US.
Climate change is not real.
Russia did not manipulate our elections.
Qnon.
Deep state.
You get the idea.
And I'm a republican!
[QUOTE=DrDave39;4712768]TechSticles reminds me of a joke from Neuro rounds: "He only has 3 neurons (brain cells) left. One is infected, the second is infarcted, and the 3rd is demented!
Tgd.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. That's fair.
So what is a left-wing conspiracy, then?
Maybe I should poke and post in this forum more often, especially since I am bored as fuck.
This article will be above the ability of many here to comprehend but well within Molly's capability. It somewhat reinforces Molly's rumor / theory. It is from that notorious right-wing organization, the CDC from 2007.
[URL]https://cmr.asm.org/content/cmr/20/4/660.full.pdf[/URL]
"Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) coronavirus (SARS-CoV) is a novel virus that caused the first major pandemic of the new millennium (89,180, 259). The rapid economic growth in southern China has led to an increasing demand for animal proteins including those from exotic game food animals such as civets. Large numbers and varieties of these wild game mammals in overcrowded cages and the lack of biosecurity measures in wet markets allowed the jumping of this novel virus from animals to human (353,376). Its capacity for human-to-human transmission, the lack of awareness in hospital infection control, and international air travel facilitated the rapid global dissemination of this agent. ".
"Coronaviruses are well known to undergo genetic recombination (375), which may lead to new genotypes and outbreaks. The presence of a large reservoir of SARS-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, together with the culture of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb. The possibility of the reemergence of SARS and other novel viruses from animals or laboratories and therefore the need for preparedness should not be ignored. ".
Even without the illicit movement of lab animals into the wet markets, China is recognized as a time-bomb. I have lived in some high corruption countries and her theory sounds plausible if unnecessary to explain the outbreak.
Bam.
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;4711918]I guess I needed to state it was a rumor about the wet markets. Or 'right-wing conspiracy' (what the hell is that, anyway?
My bad.[/QUOTE]
Oh boy, Lenny called me out on the internet. Whatever will I do with myself now?