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[QUOTE=ParrotReborn;2906276]LOL, you guys are hardcore!
Side note: what would happen if a younger monger like myself took one of those boner boosters??
I find some providers don't give CBJ until I'm fully hard. Then expect to shove a soft sausage into her oven. That never works out well!![/QUOTE]I know a younger dude who some goldies (red kind). He said they just increased his stamina, and made him get hard every time he even thought of sex.
[QUOTE=HeadHunting;2907726]I know a younger dude who some goldies (red kind). He said they just increased his stamina, and made him get hard every time he even thought of sex.[/QUOTE]I'm a younger dude (<40) and can confirm this as my experience with Goldreallas (the black package "XXX" ones anyway): much longer stamina, much faster recovery after the bust, and even a slight increase in length & girth at full-mast (see my first post about my experiences; partner I test-drove on the first time said she could def feel a difference. And she didn't know until afterwards that I had taken anything).
I've had better results if (1) I haven't eaten right before taking them and (2) I haven't had a lot to drink. Even if I'm not feeling a buzz the alcohol can tamp the effects down. Not that they don't work, just that they don't seem to work as well or as fast.
And like the original v: they can and usually do give me one helluva headache. Past couple of runs with them I've learned to toke up on my headache medicine of choice towards the end of the effects when I can first feel the headache starting up; seems to help nick it down both in intensity and duration.
As for general health / performance: make sure you get enough sleep regularly (I know, easier said than done), have a decent diet (meaning: don't regularly eat a bunch of carbs and sugars and shit. Meats+veggies should be the majority of what you eat), and watch your regular meds. There's a whole bunch of stuff that can cause subtle side effects to your testosterone levels; for example, steroid-class drugs (eg, prednisone, fluticasone, etc) some of which are OTC for "maintenance usage" or are often prescribed for long periods or even indefinitely. Over time they can seriously jank your T levels.
And lay off the porn. Speaking from experience, that shit messes you up inside and out.
[QUOTE=JWSouth;2908621]I'm a younger dude (<40) and can confirm this as my experience with Goldreallas (the black package "XXX" ones anyway): much longer stamina, much faster recovery after the bust, and even a slight increase in length & girth at full-mast (see my first post about my experiences; partner I test-drove on the first time said she could def feel a difference. And she didn't know until afterwards that I had taken anything).
I've had better results if (1) I haven't eaten right before taking them and (2) I haven't had a lot to drink. Even if I'm not feeling a buzz the alcohol can tamp the effects down. Not that they don't work, just that they don't seem to work as well or as fast.
And like the original v: they can and usually do give me one helluva headache. Past couple of runs with them I've learned to toke up on my headache medicine of choice towards the end of the effects when I can first feel the headache starting up; seems to help nick it down both in intensity and duration.
As for general health / performance: make sure you get enough sleep regularly (I know, easier said than done), have a decent diet (meaning: don't regularly eat a bunch of carbs and sugars and shit. Meats+veggies should be the majority of what you eat), and watch your regular meds. There's a whole bunch of stuff that can cause subtle side effects to your testosterone levels; for example, steroid-class drugs (eg, prednisone, fluticasone, etc) some of which are OTC for "maintenance usage" or are often prescribed for long periods or even indefinitely. Over time they can seriously jank your T levels.
And lay off the porn. Speaking from experience, that shit messes you up inside and out.[/QUOTE]Everything you're saying here is true, and this is some good game. I noticed maximum girth length with the red ones. When I used the black ones, I didn't have a good experience, but that may be because I was chain smoking that day and drinking heavily all week. I also only get 5 or 6 hours of sleep a night. The first time I took a red one, I banged three chicks in a 12 hour span. Couldn't cum with the first two and lasted the whole session. Lost wood on the third, but that could be from the chain smoking again. I 'm going to tighten up and see what happens.
Just food for thought. I've been in this hobby for awhile. Has anybody else considered the amount of women they have actually been with during that time? When I put some serious thought into it, I'm putting up some wilt chamberlain type numbers. Nothing to brag about, it's actually pathetic when I do the math and realize how much I've spent on this hobby. If I could be granted a wish, I'd wish to have every dime I've ever spent lingering deposited into my bank account. I probably would have to work for a few years.
[QUOTE=GetUrRollOnMan;2910078]Just food for thought. I've been in this hobby for awhile. Has anybody else considered the amount of women they have actually been with during that time? When I put some serious thought into it, I'm putting up some wilt chamberlain type numbers. Nothing to brag about, it's actually pathetic when I do the math and realize how much I've spent on this hobby. If I could be granted a wish, I'd wish to have every dime I've ever spent lingering deposited into my bank account. I probably would have to work for a few years.[/QUOTE]GetUrRollOnMan: I totally agree, it is pathetic. I have tried to convince myself on numerous times that I am going to quit, only to realize that I am lying to myself. Not only have tried to count the number of chicks I've banged and the money I've 'wasted' in the process its depressing. But moreover, I wonder who really has the addition, the psycho chicks we screw, or us? Or all of us are in a vicious cycle. I get these attacks of morality now and then only to descend down to the abyss again. Hate to sound depressing, its just my thoughts.
[QUOTE=GetUrRollOnMan;2910078]Just food for thought. I've been in this hobby for awhile. Has anybody else considered the amount of women they have actually been with during that time? When I put some serious thought into it, I'm putting up some wilt chamberlain type numbers. Nothing to brag about, it's actually pathetic when I do the math and realize how much I've spent on this hobby. If I could be granted a wish, I'd wish to have every dime I've ever spent lingering deposited into my bank account. I probably would have to work for a few years.[/QUOTE]Well, I've always been a quality over quantity hobbyist (more high dollar girls); that, and when I find the occasional unicorn, I'll see her as a "regular" for a while. I would say, too, that for me, mongering is to augment my fucklist; it's not the whole list (ie. I've never been dependent on mongering).
So I'd put my total and probably more than 100 but less than 200? Over a 25 year period, that's not bad.
The tally, then, is going to be dependent on mongering style: if you're the guy who needs "relief" and swings by to pick up an SW every afternoon for some twenty dollar half and half, then that's certainly going to rack up a few thousand "hits" over 20-30 years.
O.
[QUOTE=GetUrRollOnMan;2910078]Just food for thought. I've been in this hobby for awhile. Has anybody else considered the amount of women they have actually been with during that time? When I put some serious thought into it, I'm putting up some wilt chamberlain type numbers. Nothing to brag about, it's actually pathetic when I do the math and realize how much I've spent on this hobby. If I could be granted a wish, I'd wish to have every dime I've ever spent lingering deposited into my bank account. I probably would have to work for a few years.[/QUOTE]Depends on what you're buying. Sexual addiction is a real thing and it's always guys trying to buy something besides sex. They are using the sex to satisfy another need. If you're buying what they are selling and keeping within your means then the moral issue is a vestige of the Victorian Age. If on the other hand you're trying to buy something besides simple, convenient sexual gratification then there could be an issue. We have a thread where there is a fairly good ongoing discussion about this.
Personally I would posit that very little sexual behavior in the US is not either covert or overt prostitution.
A2.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2910168]Depends on what you're buying. Sexual addiction is a real thing and it's always guys trying to buy something besides sex. They are using the sex to satisfy another need. If you're buying what they are selling and keeping within your means then the moral issue is a vestige of the Victorian Age. If on the other hand you're trying to buy something besides simple, convenient sexual gratification then there could be an issue. We have a thread where there is a fairly good ongoing discussion about this.
Personally I would posit that very little sexual behavior in the US is not either covert or overt prostitution.
A2.[/QUOTE]Overall fairly redpill sentiments, mi amigo. I concur all around.
Where's the other thread you mentioned?
[blue]Here you go
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4228-Sexual-Addiction-Reports[/url]
A2[/blue]
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;2910143]Well, I've always been a quality over quantity hobbyist (more high dollar girls); that, and when I find the occasional unicorn, I'll see her as a "regular" for a while. I would say, too, that for me, mongering is to augment my fucklist; it's not the whole list (ie. I've never been dependent on mongering).
So I'd put my total and probably more than 100 but less than 200? Over a 25 year period, that's not bad.
The tally, then, is going to be dependent on mongering style: if you're the guy who needs "relief" and swings by to pick up an SW every afternoon for some twenty dollar half and half, then that's certainly going to rack up a few thousand "hits" over 20-30 years.
O.[/QUOTE]I've been doing pump and dumps since I was 18. Started in AR and eventually moved to GA where not only did they have SWs, but Craiglist. Eventually backpage came along and the abundance of women was plentiful. So 16 years in the game, I think I'm close to that 1 k mark. Give or take 100. I didn't pay 20 for each encounter, sometimes less-sometimes more. I can easily say I've dumped 20,000 plus into my addiction.
[QUOTE=CrefloDollar;2910129]GetUrRollOnMan: I totally agree, it is pathetic. I have tried to convince myself on numerous times that I am going to quit, only to realize that I am lying to myself. Not only have tried to count the number of chicks I've banged and the money I've 'wasted' in the process its depressing. But moreover, I wonder who really has the addition, the psycho chicks we screw, or us? Or all of us are in a vicious cycle. I get these attacks of morality now and then only to descend down to the abyss again. Hate to sound depressing, its just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]For me the guilt always comes after I get that nut off. We have an addiction brah. LOL I think I'm at a point now that I can. It honestly be in a committed relationship without cheating.
[QUOTE=GetUrRollOnMan;2910267]I've been doing pump and dumps since I was 18. Started in AR and eventually moved to GA where not only did they have SWs, but Craiglist. Eventually backpage came along and the abundance of women was plentiful. So 16 years in the game, I think I'm close to that 1 k mark. Give or take 100. I didn't pay 20 for each encounter, sometimes less-sometimes more. I can easily say I've dumped 20,000 plus into my addiction.[/QUOTE]Still cheaper than 16 years of golf.
Now golf: THAT is an expensive addiction!
O.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;2910382]Still cheaper than 16 years of golf.
Now golf: THAT is an expensive addiction!
O.[/QUOTE]Maybe we need to start a ho-mongers anonymous chat room. 12 step program and whole 9. I will be the first to start. Hi, My name is Creflo, and I am a ho mongerer.
Excellent topic guys, now let's look at things on the flip side from the AVERAGE provider's perspective. If some of you guys have blown 20-100 k over the years on diff providers, then why are these providers not rich??
I never understood that, especially the girls who charge like 100 Qv 150 hh, etc. WHY ARE THEY NOT RICH? Too many of the 150+ hh girls live (not just work, but LIVE) in ghetto, low income and impoverished areas.
If you are making like 200 withing 30 minutes, you should be well off if you have regulars (and manynof them do). These girls are making a killing and barely lifting a finger, scamming and chasing off older guys before time is up.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they are rich but only choose to work in the ghetto as a "front" but I don't understand how you can live in a cheap apartment and you make 150 within 30 minutes. I live in a "decent" house and make no where near 200 an hour. Don't give me that be about having slow days, these providers are booming!! Guys are blowing up their phones and they have regulars who see them at least twice a week.
I can't wrap my head around it! Why do I live in a house (on my own) making significantly less than the providers in the run down apartments.
If I was in their shoes, I would have it made in the shade! Makes no damn sense!!
[QUOTE=ParrotReborn;2910432]Excellent topic guys, now let's look at things on the flip side from the AVERAGE provider's perspective. If some of you guys have blown 20-100 k over the years on diff providers, then why are these providers not rich??
I never understood that, especially the girls who charge like 100 Qv 150 hh, etc. WHY ARE THEY NOT RICH? Too many of the 150+ hh girls live (not just work, but LIVE) in ghetto, low income and impoverished areas.
If you are making like 200 withing 30 minutes, you should be well off if you have regulars (and manynof them do). These girls are making a killing and barely lifting a finger, scamming and chasing off older guys before time is up.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they are rich but only choose to work in the ghetto as a "front" but I don't understand how you can live in a cheap apartment and you make 150 within 30 minutes. I live in a "decent" house and make no where near 200 an hour. Don't give me that be about having slow days, these providers are booming!! Guys are blowing up their phones and they have regulars who see them at least twice a week.
I can't wrap my head around it! Why do I live in a house (on my own) making significantly less than the providers in the run down apartments.
If I was in their shoes, I would have it made in the shade! Makes no damn sense!![/QUOTE]Crack ain't cheap man.
[QUOTE=ParrotReborn;2910432]Excellent topic guys, now let's look at things on the flip side from the AVERAGE provider's perspective. If some of you guys have blown 20-100 k over the years on diff providers, then why are these providers not rich??
I never understood that, especially the girls who charge like 100 Qv 150 hh, etc. WHY ARE THEY NOT RICH? Too many of the 150+ hh girls live (not just work, but LIVE) in ghetto, low income and impoverished areas.
If you are making like 200 withing 30 minutes, you should be well off if you have regulars (and manynof them do). These girls are making a killing and barely lifting a finger, scamming and chasing off older guys before time is up.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they are rich but only choose to work in the ghetto as a "front" but I don't understand how you can live in a cheap apartment and you make 150 within 30 minutes. I live in a "decent" house and make no where near 200 an hour. Don't give me that be about having slow days, these providers are booming!! Guys are blowing up their phones and they have regulars who see them at least twice a week.
I can't wrap my head around it! Why do I live in a house (on my own) making significantly less than the providers in the run down apartments.
If I was in their shoes, I would have it made in the shade! Makes no damn sense!![/QUOTE]It's simple: They blow what money they do make.