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I am holding off until more is known or at least virus is more contained.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4706419]Effectively, this virus is also sexually transmitted. Given that most people don't know they carry it and are passing it as a result, what's a monger or SD to do in these trying times? I am effectively getting out of the sugar bowl for the moment, but am interested to hear other's approaches. FFA.[/QUOTE]
Just search on PrEP. My doctor told me that PrEP has roughly a 99% success rate. The CDC says that there is a 74% success rate. BBJ's are fairly safe, but I think engaging in BBFS or BB anal is foolish.
([URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prep.html[/URL]).
[QUOTE=Ablas;4708446]Hey guys,
Recently decided to go BB with a few providers, and am now regretting it. Luckily, I am still within 24 h period and am considering going on PEP to reduce risk of HIV. However, it seems there is no real study on the effectiveness of PEP for HIV prevention. Does anyone know any good numbers around PEP's effectiveness with sources? The reason I ask is it'll cost me a bit over a thousand, and I've found very little proof that it actually does anything.
Secondly, while on PEP, is it a hall-pass to indulge in risky behavior while on the regimen?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
I've been wondering since the day I've made my account of what exactly goes through the mind of a BBFS monger. I've personally only done it twice so far and I did get seen afterwards extensively from my provider to rule out anything. When I come here it's fun to see you guys extensively talking about it and finding all providers who do it and I have to say that is fun to watch all of this. I had to say that having sex with a rubber has felt pretty much the same to me or at least with a minimal difference than uncovered sex. Time for coming has been pretty much the same and depending on how wet the provider is, it's sometimes blurry to realize that I'm wearing a rubber. Having a peace of mind is also great. This is getting long. What exactly goes through the mindset of many of you people? FYI. I got a degree in CSE and a minor in psychology so understanding many of these things are exhilarating for me. Thank you.
I've been at this game just under 4 years and it was a progression for me. I didn't even think BBBJ was an option, when I first started. After seeing a couple providers, I began reading forums and realized what I was missing out on. BBBJ became my standard, and DATY soon followed. I really wanted BBFS, but didn't try it for the first year, because I was worried about the risks. I finally worked up the courage and have been seeking it ever since. It's not a decision maker for me, though; sometimes I'll pick a girl solely on her looks and she doesn't offer it. In those situations, I know ahead of time what I'm getting into, so I'm not expecting it. That being said, my primary goal is BBFSCIP, which I don't think feels anything like CFS. Even more so from a mental perspective; for me, there's nothing more exciting / empowering / satisfying than dumping a load in a girl.
[QUOTE=VovaUkrainian;4742169]Hey guys,
I've been wondering since the day I've made my account of what exactly goes through the mind of a BBFS monger. I've personally only done it twice so far and I did get seen afterwards extensively from my provider to rule out anything. When I come here it's fun to see you guys extensively talking about it and finding all providers who do it and I have to say that is fun to watch all of this. I had to say that having sex with a rubber has felt pretty much the same to me or at least with a minimal difference than uncovered sex. Time for coming has been pretty much the same and depending on how wet the provider is, it's sometimes blurry to realize that I'm wearing a rubber. Having a peace of mind is also great. This is getting long. What exactly goes through the mindset of many of you people? FYI. I got a degree in CSE and a minor in psychology so understanding many of these things are exhilarating for me. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VovaUkrainian;4742169]I've been wondering since the day I've made my account of what exactly goes through the mind of a BBFS monger....[/QUOTE]Funny, I've never thought of "BBFS monger" as a category or thought of myself as one. I don't exactly go looking for it and a girl that either openly advertises BBFS or is well-known to provide it is unlikely to get on my TDL.
I'm pretty picky about which girls I see, and when I find one I like and am comfortable with I tend to repeat, typically seeing them 3-4 times a month. In my experience if you are having repeat sessions with a girl BBFS will eventually be offered, either for a modest up-sell or just put out there gratis.
[QUOTE=KD7771;4594370]So I consider myself to be the King of BB. It is my M. O. When I visit with these ladies of the night. I have doing this for almost 4 years now with NO STD's and I dumped loads into 29 ladies, and some I have been a regular with the entire time. Here is my personal plan (works for me, may not for others).
I get tested every 3 months, period. I use [URL]STDcheck.com[/URL].
I never do anything with a girl with trackmarks. I stop and leave. I also never give donations until its over.
I never do anything with a girl smelling like Starkiss Tuna! Same as above. She isn't clean.
I never negotiate BB until I meet her, then I drop it that I only do BB. Never had one say no as they want the money.
Best experience ever: I did get to do a MFM with one 2 years back and we took turns dropping our loads in her. I did 2, my buddy did 3. It was awesome. I wish she was still around.[/QUOTE]I can't stop laughing at you. Do you get a large volume discount at the lab? Is it like Cheers, where everybody knows your name? "Norm!
Hysterical.
Hey guys, I'm new to this and I was wondering what are the odds I could catch a STD or something from a girl? I was thinking of going BBBJ. Thanks.
This is a fantastic post about what is risky (and not so much) for transmission. IDK how one keeps safe as a monger, though.
[URL]https://erinbromage.wixsite.com/covid19/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?fbclid=IwAR3Pkkx7OHlOkBoFFS-CAqVNcIKVrnEai-KfbSS8lvYzRpf4wsgbqEcaKvI[/URL]
Thanks. This is very high quality information.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4777588]This is a fantastic post about what is risky (and not so much) for transmission. IDK how one keeps safe as a monger, though.
[URL]https://erinbromage.wixsite.com/covid19/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?fbclid=IwAR3Pkkx7OHlOkBoFFS-CAqVNcIKVrnEai-KfbSS8lvYzRpf4wsgbqEcaKvI[/URL][/QUOTE]
You probably will infect everyone you live with.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4777588]This is a fantastic post about what is risky (and not so much) for transmission. IDK how one keeps safe as a monger, though.
[URL]https://erinbromage.wixsite.com/covid19/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?fbclid=IwAR3Pkkx7OHlOkBoFFS-CAqVNcIKVrnEai-KfbSS8lvYzRpf4wsgbqEcaKvI[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BBNovice2018;4780162]You probably will infect everyone you live with.[/QUOTE]Anyone keep a secret anti-biotic stash just in case you get a surprise "gift" following an encounter??
[QUOTE=VovaUkrainian;4742169]Hey guys,
I've been wondering since the day I've made my account of what exactly goes through the mind of a BBFS monger. I've personally only done it twice so far and I did get seen afterwards extensively from my provider to rule out anything. When I come here it's fun to see you guys extensively talking about it and finding all providers who do it and I have to say that is fun to watch all of this. I had to say that having sex with a rubber has felt pretty much the same to me or at least with a minimal difference than uncovered sex. Time for coming has been pretty much the same and depending on how wet the provider is, it's sometimes blurry to realize that I'm wearing a rubber. Having a peace of mind is also great. This is getting long. What exactly goes through the mindset of many of you people?[/QUOTE]I've only done it 3 times and it was with the same girl. We agreed to a BBBJ, but she asked if I wanted a rubber when it came time for sex. I was surprised to say the least when she gave me the option and opted to go bare. The last time I saw her I thought about what I'd been doing and felt pretty dumb. The thought of the 10 other guys she'd seen that day fucking her bare sent chills down my spine. I can't say I'd never do it again, but it's yet to happen since.
Bare sex doesn't feel that much better to me either and isn't something I actively seek. I think it's mostly a mental thing. It feels more intimate to fuck a girl raw. Knowing that a provider will do it makes her less attractive in my eyes though. Girls who have a strict covered only policy seem cleaner and just feel better to be around.
So I'm sure it has been posted before but regardless I want to bump it since I was so satisfied with the process. I ended up getting a little reckless after I started my rounds when Covid had settled down in my area. I usually always wrap up for anything but decided to skip that for the BBBJ and I was all in on some DATY at a few AMP's and an escort. I would say 3-4 weeks after my binge to make up for lost time I was pissing needles. I was pretty fucking scared. But found push health which is basically a quick virtual doctor situation. I did put in my real name, birth date etc. But put an old address because I can't have shit sent to my house. I understand there may be some trail in my health records (maybe not. Not sure how that works) which is fine. Not a big deal to me just don't want anything coming in the mail. I literally had a prescription sent to pharmacy within an hour of signing up. I never had to speak to a doctor just put my symptoms and got a notification that prescription was sent. I understand the importance of testing and following the process but to get something in my system quick this was great. In case you are wondering I am pissing like a champ now, went in to PP for a test, and going back in a few months for another. Anyways Push Health = good shit. Stay safe out there.
Read a lot of this, question is what is the % of mongers that catch the bug when rolling with a massage parlor girl. Does keeping a mask on really reduce the risk of spread enough to do it. Also if you think a about it, if I guy that had the bug came in before you during the day and was sucking on her tits, are they now contaminated and you risk getting it sticking your face in her chest?
[QUOTE=Visconti5683;4890064]So I'm sure it has been posted before but regardless I want to bump it since I was so satisfied with the process. I ended up getting a little reckless after I started my rounds when Covid had settled down in my area. I usually always wrap up for anything but decided to skip that for the BBBJ and I was all in on some DATY at a few AMP's and an escort. I would say 3-4 weeks after my binge to make up for lost time I was pissing needles. I was pretty fucking scared. But found push health which is basically a quick virtual doctor situation. I did put in my real name, birth date etc. But put an old address because I can't have shit sent to my house. I understand there may be some trail in my health records (maybe not. Not sure how that works) which is fine. Not a big deal to me just don't want anything coming in the mail. I literally had a prescription sent to pharmacy within an hour of signing up. I never had to speak to a doctor just put my symptoms and got a notification that prescription was sent. I understand the importance of testing and following the process but to get something in my system quick this was great. In case you are wondering I am pissing like a champ now, went in to PP for a test, and going back in a few months for another. Anyways Push Health = good shit. Stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]So the only thing you did bb was get a BBBJ? Wow, that is one of the statistically small cases of getting something that way. Did you ever find out what it was that you had? And what medicine did they prescribe?
[QUOTE=RemsenSt;4895871]So the only thing you did bb was get a BBBJ? Wow, that is one of the statistically small cases of getting something that way. Did you ever find out what it was that you had? And what medicine did they prescribe?[/QUOTE]I know it. I was surprised. There is a new AMP with a girl that is popular AF by me and the escort was a budget buy so I would assume it was one of those but who knows. Azithromycin and Cefixime were prescribed which I believe cover clap and the G. I ended up getting a 10 panel with the HIV RNA added on to it because I freaked myself out. Everything was good so the prescriptions did their job.
[QUOTE=Stealth72;5062652]I even know a couple that will do bb anal. Talk about risky.[/QUOTE]Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5063146]Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. You need to google that and learn about STD's. Yes anal is very risky.
[URL]https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/sexual-health/does-anal-sex-have-any-health-risks/[/URL]
Here you go. Anything not protected has risks.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5063146]Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.[/QUOTE]Why is BBBJ seemingly not a big deal?
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5063146]Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.[/QUOTE]Butt sex is the number one way to catch the package, where have you been all these years. Blood is the number one way to get it.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5063146]Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.[/QUOTE]I'd worry about two types of Hepatitis, HIV and HSV2 and the standard bacterial stuff.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5063146] But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.[/QUOTE]AIDS was originally known as GRID (Gay Related Immuno Deficiency). Why? Because it was mainly spreading through the homosexual community since they did all of the unprotected butt sex. Anal sex makes it very easy to expose yourself to blood borne pathogens.
There are people that think only the receivers of gay anal sex can get HIV. So those guys say they can't get it because they are straight.
[QUOTE=Nick6789;5063371]There are people that think only the receivers of gay anal sex can get HIV. So those guys say they can't get it because they are straight.[/QUOTE]With stats from CDC and solid info from sources like WebMD, there's no excuse for speculating.
Want to know how many adults have HSV2, how many are asymptomatic, who catches STDs more easily from oral. Men or women? It's a quick Google question away.
Want info on incubation periods, surf the [URL]stdcheck.com[/URL] website. Get the ten panel test periodically there too. Note your doctor probably only runs tests for the bacterial STDs. Same with Health Department. Don't skip the viral stuff.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5063146]Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure there's an excuse for thinking this in 2020. Anal sex is the most dangerous sex due to the higher chance of exposure to blood and membrane, which can give you HIV and other things. It's not a good idea to have unprotected anal sex with anyone unless you're in a relationship with them and regularly get tested.
[QUOTE=TheBro;5064285]I'm not sure there's an excuse for thinking this in 2020. Anal sex is the most dangerous sex due to the higher chance of exposure to blood and membrane, which can give you HIV and other things. It's not a good idea to have unprotected anal sex with anyone unless you're in a relationship with them and regularly get tested.[/QUOTE]I agree with TheBro, higher probability with Anal sex to have transmission thru blood, than vaginal and oral sex. Just like the probability is higher in catching an STD with this hobby than meeting someone in the bar or even tinder, bumble etc. More traffic, more potential to harm yourself. Best bet is to cover up, although we know that doesn't feel as good and depending on the provider and where are head is at the time, shit happens! Stay Safe Everyone!
[QUOTE=Lamarr;5065048]Really? Wow, I wouldn't have thought that BBBJ was high risk at all.[/QUOTE]I thought the same and I'm very selective who do I see. About one year ago I've got Clamidya from BBBJ. The doctor I saw did assure me that Clamidya and Ghonorea can be transmitted through unprotected oral. Never had unprotected BBFS with a provider, oral was the way I've got it. Luckily it can be treated easily.
You can never be too safe.
Ben.
[QUOTE=Lamarr;5065048]Really? Wow, I wouldn't have thought that BBBJ was high risk at all.[/QUOTE]I don't know about "high" risk, but there is a risk. Stuff like gonorrhea and chlamydia are possible. And if she has oral HSV, that one is possible to get too.
[QUOTE=NotaSexAddict;5065390]I don't know about "high" risk, but there is a risk. Stuff like gonorrhea and chlamydia are possible. And if she has oral HSV, that one is possible to get too.[/QUOTE]That settles it! I'm stickin' with BB foot jobs only!
[QUOTE=Lamarr;5065048]Really? Wow, I wouldn't have thought that BBBJ was high risk at all.[/QUOTE[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm[/URL]
[QUOTE=NotaSexAddict;5065390]I don't know about "high" risk, but there is a risk. Stuff like gonorrhea and chlamydia are possible. And if she has oral HSV, that one is possible to get too.[/QUOTE]Any exchange of bodily fluids has the potential to spread diseases, bacteria, etc. Oral sex entails open membrane tissue exposed to another person's open membrane tissue transported by saliva, open sores, blood (if applicable) etc. There is ALWAYS a potential to catch something if no cover is used.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5064198]With stats from CDC and solid info from sources like WebMD, there's no excuse for speculating.
Want to know how many adults have HSV2, how many are asymptomatic, who catches STDs more easily from oral. Men or women? It's a quick Google question away.
Want info on incubation periods, surf the [URL]stdcheck.com[/URL] website. Get the ten panel test periodically there too. Note your doctor probably only runs tests for the bacterial STDs. Same with Health Department. Don't skip the viral stuff.[/QUOTE]The CDC is a political agency, not a scientific one. Look up Paul Michael Glaser, an actor who played in the TV show starsky and hutch. His wife had aids for 4 years before they found out, yet he never caught it from her. Aids is spread when a person that has it puts their blood or semen into the bloodstream of another person. Semen in the butt finds its way into the blood. No straight man in America has ever caught aids from a woman by fucking her in the butt or pussy or from getting a blow job. In the 1970's we heard that aids was going to spread from drug addicted hookers to their clients. It never happened. In Africa is is spread from prostitutes to their clients. Whats the difference? In Africa body lice are common.
I do wonder if a man can catch it from sucking milk from tits and swallowing it. Or from body lice or bed bugs. I've had gonorrhea about 5 times and syphilis once. It was always from BBFS. I've had BBBJ from at least 1,000 women over the last 50 years, and I've never caught anything from it.
Sure, it may be "possible", but its also possible to find a million dollar lottery ticket on the ground. It ain't going to happen.
Certainly the CDC has been used in political ways recently. Longterm, they still are a reliable source of statistics.
Your explanation of how HIV is transmitted SEEMS to suggest you've never heard of a virus. Semen doesn't enter blood. Further, the prevalence of AIDS in Africa has to do with the rare use of condoms, the lack of education, and the progression of HIV into AIDS for lack of access to anti viral cocktails.
The early information on Aids you recall from the 70's, probably came from religious organizations, not CDC.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5065741]The CDC is a political agency, not a scientific one. Look up Paul Michael Glaser, an actor who played in the TV show starsky and hutch. His wife had aids for 4 years before they found out, yet he never caught it from her. Aids is spread when a person that has it puts their blood or semen into the bloodstream of another person. Semen in the butt finds its way into the blood. No straight man in America has ever caught aids from a woman by fucking her in the butt or pussy or from getting a blow job. In the 1970's we heard that aids was going to spread from drug addicted hookers to their clients. It never happened. In Africa is is spread from prostitutes to their clients. Whats the difference? In Africa body lice are common.
I do wonder if a man can catch it from sucking milk from tits and swallowing it. Or from body lice or bed bugs. I've had gonorrhea about 5 times and syphilis once. It was always from BBFS. I've had BBBJ from at least 1,000 women over the last 50 years, and I've never caught anything from it.
Sure, it may be "possible", but its also possible to find a million dollar lottery ticket on the ground. It ain't going to happen.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5065741] No straight man in America has ever caught aids from a woman by fucking her in the butt or pussy or from getting a blow job [/QUOTE]Magic Johnson wants a word with you.
I have never read a more incorrect comment here.
Gentlemen,
Can we please move over all the "expert opinions" over to general reports section? The topic here is escort reports.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5065741] Semen in the butt finds its way into the blood. No straight man in America has ever caught aids from a woman by fucking her in the butt or pussy or from getting a blow job. In the 1970's we heard that aids was going to spread from drug addicted hookers to their clients. It never happened.[/QUOTE]If you recall, it was gay men having anal sex which caused the initial spread of aids.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5065741]The CDC is a political agency, not a scientific one. Look up Paul Michael Glaser, an actor who played in the TV show starsky and hutch. His wife had aids for 4 years before they found out, yet he never caught it from her. Aids is spread when a person that has it puts their blood or semen into the bloodstream of another person. Semen in the butt finds its way into the blood. No straight man in America has ever caught aids from a woman by fucking her in the butt or pussy or from getting a blow job. In the 1970's we heard that aids was going to spread from drug addicted hookers to their clients. It never happened. In Africa is is spread from prostitutes to their clients. Whats the difference? In Africa body lice are common.
I do wonder if a man can catch it from sucking milk from tits and swallowing it. Or from body lice or bed bugs. I've had gonorrhea about 5 times and syphilis once. It was always from BBFS. I've had BBBJ from at least 1,000 women over the last 50 years, and I've never caught anything from it.
Sure, it may be "possible", but its also possible to find a million dollar lottery ticket on the ground. It ain't going to happen.[/QUOTE][URL]https://hivinfo.nih.gov/understanding-hiv/fact-sheets/hivaids-basics[/URL]
[QUOTE=Hoestroll;5066259]If you recall, it was gay men having anal sex which caused the initial spread of aids.[/QUOTE]It was called "Gay Cancer" for a while.
[QUOTE=EatonBeaver;5066376]It was called "Gay Cancer" for a while.[/QUOTE]It couldn't spread in the heterosexual community. If a man had it, he could only infect women, and they couldn't infect anyone. It only spread because it was in the gay community. It is also spread among iv drug users, but they can only spread it to other iv drug users. The spread of aids is almost entirely a result of the gay lifestyle, and we're all paying a price.
So, I recently got an appointment to see Shay.
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/white-girl-shay/34150521[/URL]
[URL]https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/11277443[/URL]
So, I've been texting her for a while, and this morning, she finally text me back saying the's available. Mornings are my thing, so she got my attention. Turns out she wants $1. 8 for hh and $2. 2 for hr, which is pretty damn high. But her attitude is, "If you don't want BBBJ and BBFS, bring a cover. " Like, she's defaulting to BB at those prices. Kinda scary, but anyhow, she's out at 19 and vandyke, in a trailer park around there. Didn't feel unsafe at all.
Her trailer is a mess, dog obviously scratched the shit out of the wall. It's not a mess like, things everywhere, it's more like, just hadn't been vacuumed, and I wouldn't want to sit on the couch type way that a lot of these ladies places look / feel. Her bedroom was pretty clean though, and the mattress on the floor was made. She's obviously bigger than her pics, by about 30 lbs, and she lets her top open up to some massive tattoo'd cannons, on top of a slightly smaller FUPA.
I just couldn't do it. I noped out, gave her $20, and hit the street. She wasted both of our time thinking that when I said that I liked petite women, that I'd still accept her, and, . . . Nope!
Good news is that this chick was so non-chalant about BBFS that it really made me question things, and I bought 24 condoms!
Dunno how good she is in the sack, but do know that she isn't that petite girl in the pics.
Alright, stay safe.