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We're definitely talking about the same girl then.
Always sounds like she's messed up.
[QUOTE=Sincy Assman]I heard she is an indy, I have even called her myself. The reason I didn't meet her is cause every single time I called her she appeared to be on some serious meds. Not my style so I passed. Hope this helps.
Happy hunting![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cincyjim]You can mask your IP by finding a neighbor who leaves his wifi unlocked and use his IP.[/QUOTE]You can also proxy your web traffic through an SSH tunnel you can set up easily to a 3rd party system ([url]http://wiki.freaks-unidos.net/weblogs/azul/firefox-ssh-tunnel)[/url], or use a variety of open web proxies that can also perform anonymizing functions (scrubbing cookies and image bugs from websites etc.) Lots of public open proxy sites are listed at [url]http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/proxylists.html[/url] Foxyproxy (a firefox extension) also has a paid proxy service which has a dedicated set of open proxies reserved strictly for subscribers. Either way, it's generally a lot easier to masquerade/hide internet traffic than phone traffic. Tor has also been mentioned, although I know some review sites expressly prohibit accessing the site from Tor (since it makes it too easy for an unscrupulous provider to masquerade her identity and submit false reviews).
Btw, if you have an Android based smart phone, you can use the Google Voice application to actually hide your cell phone's "real" phone number (what shows up as caller orgination/caller-id) behind (a single) Google Voice phone number. The application also includes a shortcut icon that be used to easily toggle outgoing phone calls behind the Google Voice phone number. This allows you to use your phone's real cell phone number for calls made to your non-hobby related contacts, and use your google voice number for any hobby related phone calls you need to make. You can then configure all calls made to that google voice number to immediately roll over to google voice's voicemail transcription service (if for example you don't want any unexpected calls making it through to your cell phone) or to perhaps ring on through to your cell phone (if for example you're expecting a call back).
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Keep your head on strait BDD. If the likelyhood of her being trashed every time i call is high, then you have no idea what you are walking in to. Be smart bro.
Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Big Dik Daddy]We're definitely talking about the same girl then.
Always sounds like she's messed up.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I’m hoping you all might be able to give some advice. I’m thinking of scheduling a girl from Exotica-Dream Entertainment ([url]http://www.gwetspot.com/)[/url]. I have my eye on one girl that looks great to me. But I’ve never dealt with an agency like this. What should I expect from my visit—full service? Anyone had fun with one of these entertainers? (I posted this request in both the Daytona and Cincinnati forums because Exotica serve both cities.)
Muchas Gracias,
Crazykev
[QUOTE=Havingphun]You can also proxy your web traffic through an SSH tunnel you can set up easily to a 3rd party system ([url]http://wiki.freaks-unidos.net/weblogs/azul/firefox-ssh-tunnel)[/url], or use a variety of open web proxies that can also perform anonymizing functions (scrubbing cookies and image bugs from websites etc.) Lots of public open proxy sites are listed at [url]http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/proxylists.html[/url] Foxyproxy (a firefox extension) also has a paid proxy service which has a dedicated set of open proxies reserved strictly for subscribers. Either way, it's generally a lot easier to masquerade/hide internet traffic than phone traffic. Tor has also been mentioned, although I know some review sites expressly prohibit accessing the site from Tor (since it makes it too easy for an unscrupulous provider to masquerade her identity and submit false reviews).
Btw, if you have an Android based smart phone, you can use the Google Voice application to actually hide your cell phone's "real" phone number (what shows up as caller orgination/caller-id) behind (a single) Google Voice phone number. The application also includes a shortcut icon that be used to easily toggle outgoing phone calls behind the Google Voice phone number. This allows you to use your phone's real cell phone number for calls made to your non-hobby related contacts, and use your google voice number for any hobby related phone calls you need to make. You can then configure all calls made to that google voice number to immediately roll over to google voice's voicemail transcription service (if for example you don't want any unexpected calls making it through to your cell phone) or to perhaps ring on through to your cell phone (if for example you're expecting a call back).
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you may "hide" your number to the person you called but if someone requests the call records from the phone provider of the number called using google voice, the call detail in those records will contain the originating number. Which is your example would be the number of the Android based phone.
Does anyone kinow the address of Buddah's new site ?
[QUOTE=Fanofyours7]Does anyone kinow the address of Buddah's new site ?[/QUOTE]Here it is, it's new yet again along with a new girl as well.
Not sure what happened, but certainly those 2 will be missed.
[url]http://buddah.escort-site.com/[/url]
Thanks for the info concerning Buddah's site. Like most on here, I know from experience that these agency girls are here one day and gone the next. As soon as they get enough cash in their pocket they're gone. I think it's rare for someone to be here six months later. Callie would be the exception.
[QUOTE=Fanofyours7]Thanks for the info concerning Buddah's site. Like most on here, I know from experience that these agency girls are here one day and gone the next. As soon as they get enough cash in their pocket they're gone. I think it's rare for someone to be here six months later. Callie would be the exception.[/QUOTE]
on the large canine board someone that Hannah went to high school with recognized her (not hard to do when there's a face pic) and was causing a bit of trouble.
I'm guessing a family member encouraged her to "retire".
that more providers aren't recognized by family, friends, co-workers and enemies. You have your face out there for the entire world to see. And the Internet is forever. Those pics will haunt you for the rest of your life.
It's nice for us to see a real pic but a smart provider should blur the face. She should be able to get clients based on good reviews and not a face pic.
Oh, what to do on a snowy day. SW's are probably staying home. I may have to give the chat lines a try for the first time. I've seen multiple opinions of which one to use. Is it just quantity of ads, or does one have better quality?
I happen to go down to Findlay market this morning, and guess what, I saw two regular WSW's of the old days. I new them as Sara & Sharon. They were two WSW that use to be found between Mohawk and Ravine on McMik.
They both use to wear the Mini Skirts and High Heels Pumps alot, and dressed well for the most part.
They didn't have the lot of an SW, but more of the white locals around the area. They had a crush place on Stark, and another on McMik. They also use to have one down by the Brighten Approach Bridge, near the laundry. If you saw one the other was near by, somewhere.
Sharon is about 5'8"; 135lbs, long brunette hair, big brown eyes, very shapely legz w/racehorse ankles, and nice feet, never dirty, even in sandals (?), and alway shaved to the max. She had nice 36D's, and at the time was about 25. Nice big eyes and a keen nose, with decent teeth & smile. She was one of the cleanest (Hygiene & Dress) SW's I have ever known. She had a great attitude too, and never ever took advantage of a bad situation, as I know her.
Sara was a duplicate of Sharon, she was just 5'5" a little thicker about 145lbs, dark sandy blond hair. She liked to wear the front in one roll of braids. She had more of a baby face, and looked like she was 18 instead of #25y/o.
Sharon was my Favorite, because she was SEXIER, and to me more willing to do everything. Sara was a little shorter, and a little thicker, and they are both cousins. They both did everything, but they had a client of older men, who over-paid them very well, sometimes just to look at them, doing whatever.
I am not remember just how they are related, but I know Sharon is the Aunt of Short Body the Scammer, and the Aunt of two of the girls in LPH. Sara their cousin too, in someway. Anyway the to of them use to be out all the time, and seldom had cell phones since this was back well over 4-5 years ago or more. They used the phone at the corner by the old theater. And they always had a phone where you could leave a message and contact them via someone. They always, always called you back within 20-30 minutes. They have only been bust twice I think, and they got more time because they would not roll over on their clients or other people.
I got to know them back before I was even a Member of this board, and I got the introduce to them via a Senior Member who introduced me to this board. These two are hard to find anymore. I know them by their real names, but you may know them by their SW names or street names. Those I can't remember.
Anyway they said old sexz Martha has had a Baby, and was suppose to be off drugs. She while Pregnant, but may have slipped again. She is with her parents now, in WH. Kiwi, is back at home too in Clermont County with her Family. She has a job as a waitress, and is doing fine. She has lost about 30-40lbs, and from what is said, looking like she did when she first hit the streets. Kiwi was the "BOMB" when it came the Shapely, Thick, Sexy, and Young WSW. She was okay to look at, not Bad at all, but no Martha.
The Spanish looking tall, thick, girl with the long black hair, and always wore the make-up around her eye. I can't think of her name, it slips from me right. Maria is her name, I just remembered. There were several Maria's but she was more on Race to Vine, down to Walnut. Mostly on Race, near McMik. She is straight and has a kid not or another kid, but is off the drugs. The other shorter two Maria are off drugs to, but they think they have moved away to another city.
Both Sharon & Sara, speak more of others than themselves, but I have their numbers, and they have mine. The both had a Big Crush on one of the Senior Members here, and they asked about him and this Forum alot. I learned more about that than I will ever write down, or ever expose. I don't think they knew they were telling me so much about themselves, and others.
I learned all of this while we were eating, and this took over an hour + more, to finish. I know they all still do a little something on the side to gain the extra money, but they are very exclusive in who they deal with. They prefer the married men since they are guaranteed not to make waves or cause problem, and they pay well too. Oh-Well!
This is getting too long, and I have more than say about what if going on as they know it with the new SW's on the streets. I was surprised they knew so much about the streets and who is on them and the personal history of some of the girls. Sounds like they still have contacts, and stay well informed. Basically Gossip Style, but True!
I hate to read anytime about someone getting ripped off, but especially so when that info was already here to warn you. This might be pointing out the obvious, but USASG does have a "search thread" feature. Sure you are still gonna have to RTFF and do some additional follow up because not every post brought back in the search will pertain to the provider in question. But it will help to reduce your risk.
Did you find negative posts in the search about a provider named Taylor and not certain if it is your Taylor? Then pose your question to the extensive panel of experts here along with some commentary about the questionable info you discovererd while RTFF. You will find out quickly if your intended date is one in the same. It will also be most appreciated to see that you did your due diligence first and not just asking the "anyone take the plunge with x" question that you often find here. Newbies in particular please read the prior sentence again.
The rip off girls are likely to change names often to try to avoid someone discovering their scam when they are searching for reviews. Unless it is against forum policy I would recommend posting complete phone number with area code in the RIP OFF thread. Yes, phone numbers change too but takes just a little more effort on their part than a name change. It just improves our chances of finding and confirming the scams.
Fellow Mongers,
I live in Cincinnati and a current job has me traveling to Chicago. After reading a post on their board, I felt it necessary to share.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3928[/url]
Simon
I saw the post via your link. For the record, and ease of finding it, it is posted by Mister Quick a Senior Member w/1, 234 post. Look down the page, it is very easy to find.
The presence of CPD. Vice police along with the Sheriffs dept. I can remember years back, see archives, when "WORDUP" posted and vice being on the board, and how the girls were being questioned about people on this board. Most of the girls did not know what they were talking about, especially since few had access to the internet. Now more in online, and they are still asking, about us, and reading about them. The cops know how to use this forum to move the girls around or to clean the streets at will.
Also, "WORDUP & GIANI" have said time and time again about not posting so much details, and let people on the streets work out the details. Yea, a halfway decent detective can figure it out, but let them figure it out. Plus we have started posting face face SW's and I have become guilty of that, and it was a one time only thing, even though I was looking for information. I got it, but would not without posting the faces, and I still regret it.
I am against posting faces of SW's and detailed info, and location, as a general rule. Still, there are few SW's out there who are not out there everyday, that the Police do not know already, and have not already arrested.
Oh, by the way, LE was threatening to revoke the girls probation, unless they helped find certain member on this forums, so never use your sceen name on the street of anywhere else. That is Cold-Blooded. Read the archive post, about probation offices reading the forum, looking for names and pix, guarded by local LE. Damn!
It is a simple fact that if a man is carrying multi condoms, and is stopped by the police and they are found, nothing is done. But if any of the women walking the streets are stopped and multi condoms are found on them, they are often arrested for pandering prostitution. They are saying that a women can not carry multi condoms, like she can; t have multi "FREE" Sex partners. Go Figure?
Yea, LE has be here for year, look how fast District #5 got rid of the SW's from MLK up to Marshall and beyond. Dist. #1 did the rest, and then you just saw the hardcore SW's out. People like Jamie and more. Hell, even in 15 degree, two feet of snow, and wind chills of.2degrees, Jamie was still out nearly everyday. Damn!
Still, no one is going to change their behavior here, regardless of any suggestions, advice, or recommendations. If someone is critical of the details someone post or the way, it can start a flaming match, and that is never productive.
It is a shame the officer was so successful in his efforts but that is what happens in a bigger city. We are a much smaller one, and info travels even faster, a shorter distance, and our SW areas are far smaller in comparing the two. So LE has to work fast, and target small areas. Stings are known by the neighborhood people, and thus are not welcomed, except by the Yippies making their homes inside the hood.
People read the Mister Quick post several times, and understand what it is about, and what it is really saying. As posted before, warm weather is coming, and SW's will be out, but so will LE, and they need to justify theor budgets, thus justify their jobs with lots of Victimless Crime Arrest, those are the easy ones. Far easier that arresting drug dealers, who might be willing to shoot at cops, even when they are not arresting anyone, and they is a whole other subject in itself.
Yea We Know. This Is Uncle Simon Country!
[QUOTE=Simonpieman]Fellow Mongers,
I live in Cincinnati and a current job has me traveling to Chicago. After reading a post on their board, I felt it necessary to share.
[url]http://www.Usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3928[/url]
Simon[/QUOTE]
I would like to chime in with a thought that has come to me over the last year or so of watching things on here. I have seen a few members, now senior, who have suddenly skyrocketed the number of their posts in what seem like days, even though they have been lurkers for a long time. Their posts always use known information as their "facts" and are fairly detailed but nothing unique about the info. It always goes through my head "is this a cop trying to become a Sr. member so they can begin the more serious PM dialogues where the real hardcore info is passed back and forth. I'm sure I'm not the only one that has taken note of this. There was a member who shall remain nameless since I have no evidence, that did this just last month. Anyone have any thoughts to that end? Maybe I'm just stating the blatantly obvious...
Reading that Mr quick post should be a warning to all. Do you're homework, rtff, know (as well as able) who you're sharing info with.
I mentioned about a bust using a another site in Indy just a couple of weeks ago, but it could happen here the same way.
On the streets, or in the motels, LE could be anywhere! And it has been awhile since any major stings have taken place in any of the local city/towns.
Keep you're heads up and eyes and ears open.
ez
[QUOTE=Ezenuf]Reading that Mr quick post should be a warning to all. Do you're homework, rtff, know (as well as able) who you're sharing info with.
I mentioned about a bust using a another site in Indy just a couple of weeks ago, but it could happen here the same way.
On the streets, or in the motels, LE could be anywhere! And it has been awhile since any major stings have taken place in any of the local city/towns.
Keep you're heads up and eyes and ears open.
ez[/QUOTE]
We're here, they're here and some of the ladies are here.
If you remember that this is a business for the ladies then you understand that this is nothing different from any other customer support forum.
The vendor is here, the customer is here, as well as the competition and prospective customers.
References work to a degree, but if the guy or lady is popped it's easy for them to make a deal that results in LE building a vitae, look up Operation Flee Collar and you can see how much work went into trying to nail the large canine board.
Just for fun some night we should all head down to Head First on 3rd St just
before last call so we can watch vice playing with the local ladies.
I'm all in an that thought. could be alot of fun!! Any legit ladies standing, let's take back to my place!! Could be a hot night!!! But DISCRETE and more DISCRETE!!
WM
[QUOTE=WarlockKy]We're here, they're here and some of the ladies are here.
If you remember that this is a business for the ladies then you understand that this is nothing different from any other customer support forum.
The vendor is here, the customer is here, as well as the competition and prospective customers.
References work to a degree, but if the guy or lady is popped it's easy for them to make a deal that results in LE building a vitae, look up Operation Flee Collar and you can see how much work went into trying to nail the large canine board.
Just for fun some night we should all head down to Head First on 3rd St just
before last call so we can watch vice playing with the local ladies.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mrrdfun]I would like to chime in with a thought that has come to me over the last year or so of watching things on here. I have seen a few members, now senior, who have suddenly skyrocketed the number of their posts in what seem like days, even though they have been lurkers for a long time. Their posts always use known information as their "facts" and are fairly detailed but nothing unique about the info. It always goes through my head "is this a cop trying to become a Sr. member so they can begin the more serious PM dialogues where the real hardcore info is passed back and forth. I'm sure I'm not the only one that has taken note of this. There was a member who shall remain nameless since I have no evidence, that did this just last month. Anyone have any thoughts to that end? Maybe I'm just stating the blatantly obvious...[/QUOTE]
Good observation, Mrrd. It's easy to confirm the quality of the sr member with his profile, not only by what he posts, but also how long he has been posting. Members and providers can never be too careful. SP's would be better off losing an opportunity and members would be better off missing an adventure, rather than taking unnecessary risks following a bogus referral or 'muff diving' in the 'dark', with Uncle LEO in the next room. It would be much safer, easier, and probably a lot more fun, for those sworn to protect and defend, to entrap hobby enthusiasts and their subjects, while monitoring the internet, than it would be, to have to chase real wacked out criminals in the dark and the cold.
Look at who's asking what, and try to find out why they're asking, before sharing too much detail. I will usually respond to a 'pm' with another question. Often, at weird times of the day or night, paying close attention to how long it takes and what time of day, they send their reply. Be suspect if they don't reply or choose not to engage in any type personal dialog. A simple 'thanks for the info' at 2:00am speaks volumes about a sr that pm's me at 1:00pm. Ask other known srs if you are suspicious about a post or pm from a recent 'fast paced sr', before giving out too much info? If he's asking about a specific provider, ask details that only you might be familiar with, about others he may have already seen? If he's truly a legit sr, he should have no problem answering a few questions and should have some history ..... and be willing to share with another veteran sr? I too believe that we would be foolish to overlook the possibility, that there are some that may wish to disrupt our party, by gaining sr status ? They could be LE, religeous zealots, media, or even other SP's and pimps wishing to reduce competition for their own personal gain, by infiltrating this board as a sr member. Sharing info is entertaining and valuable, and I don't wish to discourage it. But, ...... Always proceed with caution, and as RR, the greatest President ever, stated ............... 'trust, but verify'.
[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic]It is a simple fact that if a man is carrying multi condoms, and is stopped by the police and they are found, nothing is done. But if any of the women walking the streets are stopped and multi condoms are found on them, they are often arrested for pandering prostitution.[/QUOTE]This just makes my head spin. In this day and age, carrying and using a condom is essential for one and all. Hell, it always should have been. What hypocrisy to have one city department (the Police) running around busting SWs for that while other departments (Health Dept) will freely hand condoms out like they are dinner mints.
The message this sends? Some city employees WANT you to die, and actively pursue that outdated mode of thinking.
(Mongers, you can help: do what I do. After a date, just hand them one or two condoms. Pay it forward. Don't make them ask; just do it. I have never had one turned down or left behind.)
Human sexuality will always be explored, in a myriad of approved by some/not approved by others ways. Just think of parents & teens; deeply religious & gays, etc. But to actively put a group of people in a corner by actively discouraging them from carrying protection? That, my friends, is down right criminal in my book.
I did a search for Tiffany Charm in Cincinnati today and noticed a little box under the forum section that was checked. The title of the box is "Also search in child forums". Is that a joke. WTF?
[QUOTE=Simonpieman]I did a search for Tiffany Charm in Cincinnati today and noticed a little box under the forum section that was checked. The title of the box is "Also search in child forums". Is that a joke. WTF?[/QUOTE]It would be more clear if it read "Also search in sub forums".
When it is checked it will include matches from forums that have that forum as a parent.
[QUOTE=Simonpieman]I did a search for Tiffany Charm in Cincinnati today and noticed a little box under the forum section that was checked. The title of the box is "Also search in child forums". Is that a joke. WTF?[/QUOTE]
I think you are just thinking out of context on this one. The use of "child" forums in that message is referring to the directories. "Cincinnati" being the parent directory and child directories within consisting of "Escort Reports", "Craigs List Reports", "Street Walker", etc.
Perhaps it would be more appropriate if the term "sub directories" had been used instead.
Saw this lady on Eros: [url]http://www.eros-ohio.com/files/155242.htm[/url]
Site appears to be a couple of years old. She's done adverts in Chicago and NC before, but I can't seem to find any reports on her.
Any thoughts?
[QUOTE=Cincy]Saw this lady on Eros: [url]http://www.eros-ohio.com/files/155242.htm[/url]
Site appears to be a couple of years old. She's done adverts in Chicago and NC before, but I can't seem to find any reports on her.
Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]There's new review on the dog site.
Not by anybody I recognize though.
Says she like an AMP experience.
If that's true she'll be very popular.
[QUOTE=Resipsaloquito]There's new review on the dog site.
Not by anybody I recognize though.
Says she like an AMP experience.
If that's true she'll be very popular.[/QUOTE]
Any intel here? She's leaving on the 28th and I certainly think she would be awesome if anyone has tried.
I'm sure someone out there has experienced her.
Saw China the other day. She's not oriental at all and not even close to an AMP. Lame massage good conversation. Has you flip over for a hand shake and tells you absolutly no touching during this part. Very mechanical. She is very cute and has a smoking hot body. For a $ it's kinda worth it if that's all you want but any more then $ it would be a rip off.
Hope that helps.
Does she get nude or do you have to admire the smoking hot body through clothing?
[QUOTE=Stupidmale75]Saw China the other day. She's not oriental at all and not even close to an AMP. Lame massage good conversation. Has you flip over for a hand shake and tells you absolutly no touching during this part. Very mechanical. She is very cute and has a smoking hot body. For a $ it's kinda worth it if that's all you want but any more then $ it would be a rip off.
Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]
I saw her too on her last visit. No hugs, just handshakes. She does strip down to just panties, but even during the massage would step back if my hand touched her. She did climb onto my back to massage with her knees/legs, which sometimes bordered on painful (she may not realize that the kidneys are a bit more sensitive than the large muscles of the upper back), although it was nice when her legs would slide down on either side of me from time to time. Massage of lower legs was mostly light touch, although she did work a little deeper a couple of times.
On the flip, nice finish. A bit detached, but she does know the proper way to massage starting with a light touch and adjusting as necessary. Clean up, however, was being handed some kleenex and baby wipes.
Overall not a bad experience. Did the massage for the whole hour. It just wan't quite up to times back at the Golden Gate, where you have a nice hug, a warm rag clean up and even helping you to get dressed and straighten your tie. I guess I would say she was nice and got the job done, but a few little personal touches would definitely have elevated the experience, even without being able to touch her.
I can't find a current link, can someone help me out?
[QUOTE=JohnnyDoe]I can't find a current link, can someone help me out?[/QUOTE]
She was on the Eros site visiting Cincy. I think she's based out of Chicago. Her pics and site were pretty hot but the detached service is tuff for me to overcome!
Shouldn't this info on China be in the Escort section.
It will be more effective there, or in the M/P section ?
She doesn't sound like a very inviting person to spend good hard Earned money on!
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Does anyone know if she is still around? Young 19-20 asian/islander?
I had some good times with her!! Would love to find her!
Does anyone else have a problem viewing some of the girls websites on their iPhone? All other web pages are fine on mine but the escort.com ones. I checked all settings but it must be something just with these sites that end with escort.com (or something like that).
Not exactly a question I want to go to the store and ask.
So the new scam seems to be advertising for men to be in a porn shoot. Does anyone actually fall for this? Is this just the newest version of scams that appear in every nook and cranny of BP and CL? I guess I'm just curious what ya'll think. It is getting more difficult, it seems, to find an honest advertisement.
I had an interesting call today from a provider friend based in New Orleans. She had planned a tour in Nashville this weekend but canceled as she heard of three major busts 2 weeks ago. She has since taken down her phone number from her site and is only taking e-mails.
I viewed the postings on the usa board down there. Wow! Talk about paranoid city. Everyone is quite uneasy, to say the least.
I'm mentioning this as by now as most of us are aware this board is being monitered by Uncle Leo. It is extremely important that we watch our backs - providers and fellow mongers alike. Guys, watch who you receive P.M.'s from and the infomation shared. And girls, please do your homework and reference checks on new clients. We all have to be smart out there!
Wingman
What ever happened to Budda and that smoking hot girl he had that we all liked?
[QUOTE=Brummdog]What ever happened to Budda and that smoking hot girl he had that we all liked?[/QUOTE]Let me join in with that question. His site is empty too. I remember him saying, he is moving to another board.
Ok so I talked with a provider today. Here is my new thinking. If you treat me strictly as a client, you will get treated as a provider, and nothing more. I go out of my way to make people feel welcome, trusted and at ease. If any providers that read this don't like it, then go elsewhere, someone out there will let me spend my money and at least appear to be genuine. I am just tired of bending over backwards to make a provider feel at ease, only to be treated like a john doe client goin through a revolving door. Not anymore, I will only pay for what I get, and I will treat the same way I get treated.