Rants and Stupid shit in Orange County

[QUOTE=EncinoChad;6966612]Yapping alert / disclaimer.

Man, what the hell is up with the rotation of girls in AMPs.

Like, I finally have time to catch up on some recommendations from some mongers on here, then by the time I get to them, the ladies that I want to try out are not there anymore. And a lot of recommendations are from fresh reviews as well from places that haven't been shut down.

This some limited-time only bs loll.

The only thing I could think of is that they're following the cinema / theater model where new releases brings peeps to the theater to buy tickets, in this case, we're buying "tickets" to "see" 304's. Idk, I just think this whole rotation thing is dumb.[/QUOTE]I couldn't find it to comment. You have to understand that the earth does not rotate around you. The current ways exist for good reasons. This is a free guide so you should be grateful if you can even get something useful out of it.

What AMP? What rotation? How can Taylor make so much money if the Eras Tour doesn't go around the country? If there is no rotation, the bookings for a lady will keep dropping.

[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;6971170]If the attraction is opposite sex features then, you aren't gay. Sexology, psychology and Neuroscience proved this wrong decades ago. A lot of guys from a sociologically stance are buzzed, tired or high. Most street prostitution is blowjobs so, a transgender who just blows or knows howto conceal their penis can easily hook a lot of Johns.[/QUOTE]I think we agree Sukijo.

Trans women, like Dylan Mulvaney, were gay guys before they transitioned. A large proportion reverse transition to again become gay men. Those trannies on Beach Blvd like to suck cock. They are gay men. If you enjoy them sucking your cock, knowing that they are biological men, then you are bi or gay. Is that not true?

Trying to figure out if it's coincidence or me.

I changed mobile providers yesterday, and I'm unable to get onto bedpage. Not sure if it's blocked by the new provider, or by the account by default with the new provider, or might just be that page is coincidentally down just as I switch.

I guess first question, is it really down? Second question would be, how do you address this with the cell company?

[QUOTE=DaveSC;6974854]Trying to figure out if it's coincidence or me.

I changed mobile providers yesterday, and I'm unable to get onto bedpage. Not sure if it's blocked by the new provider, or by the account by default with the new provider, or might just be that page is coincidentally down just as I switch.

I guess first question, is it really down? Second question would be, how do you address this with the cell company?[/QUOTE]I check BP almost everyday. Never seen it down before. If you ever want to check if any site is down, just run a ping or check the down or not sites. If you think your ISP is blocking a site, either use a VPN or use a free proxy site. Such as.

[URL]https://proxyium.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=DaveSC;6974854]Trying to figure out if it's coincidence or me.

I changed mobile providers yesterday, and I'm unable to get onto bedpage. Not sure if it's blocked by the new provider, or by the account by default with the new provider, or might just be that page is coincidentally down just as I switch.

I guess first question, is it really down? Second question would be, how do you address this with the cell company?[/QUOTE]Bedpage isn't down. I can get in easily from all devices and networks.

Try accessing via WiFi instead of over the cell network and see if that makes a difference. I've never heard of cell networks blocking sites like that but I guess it's not outside of the realm of possibilities. If you can get in via WiFi then it's something related to the wireless network. If not, then it's something on your device that's preventing it. Maybe try a different browser.

[QUOTE=DaveSC;6974854]Trying to figure out if it's coincidence or me.

I changed mobile providers yesterday, and I'm unable to get onto bedpage. Not sure if it's blocked by the new provider, or by the account by default with the new provider, or might just be that page is coincidentally down just as I switch.

I guess first question, is it really down? Second question would be, how do you address this with the cell company?[/QUOTE]You can test on [URL]downforeveryoneorjustme.com[/URL].

Maybe the parental blocking is on. Otherwise it's easier to switch than deal with it.

[QUOTE=BSouthgate;6972171]Trans women, like Dylan Mulvaney, were gay guys before they transitioned. A large proportion reverse transition to again become gay men. Those trannies on Beach Blvd like to suck cock. They are gay men. If you enjoy them sucking your cock, knowing that they are biological men, then you are bi or gay. Is that not true?[/QUOTE]I'd say if you seek them out thinking that they are men, then yes. If you enjoy getting your cock sucked by someone who looks like a woman, but it turns out they are a man of any degree, then no.

But sexuality is a spectrum, not a lot of people are completely straight or gay based on long-standing studies. In our society there's a lot of stigma so some of the most gay people of all swear up and down they are totally straight. You will never get past that issue here in the US, so any conversation is a non-starter.

Whereas in Thailand there's very little stigma. Ladyboys are common and generally don't consider themselves male or female (there are trans people in Thailand, but they aren't ladyboys). Either you like your dick sucked by them or you don't. No profound questions necessary, obviously you aren't completely straight if you do but neither is almost anybody. It is quite normal for a "straight" woman to find other women attractive, but not enough to want sexual relationships with them. Same for men. There are a lot more 1's and 2's on the Kinsey scale than 0's. Most of the 0's are extremely closeted due to religion. I have a best friend that to this day is a 6 who pretends to be a 0 because of religion, he won't leave it.

[QUOTE=DaveSC;6974854]Trying to figure out if it's coincidence or me.

I changed mobile providers yesterday, and I'm unable to get onto bedpage. Not sure if it's blocked by the new provider, or by the account by default with the new provider, or might just be that page is coincidentally down just as I switch.

I guess first question, is it really down? Second question would be, how do you address this with the cell company?[/QUOTE]Like Grimmy said, using WiFi should use the rules of the WiFi provider instead of the cell provider. If that doesn't work try using a free VPN just to check if something is filtering web IP addresses. If that doesn't work look up changing your DNS on your phone and use a public DNS.

[QUOTE=VoltronX;6975045]Like Grimmy said, using WiFi should use the rules of the WiFi provider instead of the cell provider. If that doesn't work try using a free VPN just to check if something is filtering web IP addresses. If that doesn't work look up changing your DNS on your phone and use a public DNS.[/QUOTE]It's also possible (just trying to exhaust everything because I don't know how techie you are) that you are trying to connect to the site while you're also connected to the WiFi network of wherever you are. Disable the WiFi and try connecting through the cell network. I think it is extremely unlikely that the cell network is keeping you out. Cell networks allow you to log into porn sites, escort sites, and all kinds of stuff, so there's no reason they'd try to keep you off of bedpage.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6975019]I'd say if you seek them out thinking that they are men, then yes. If you enjoy getting your cock sucked by someone who looks like a woman, but it turns out they are a man of any degree, then no.

But sexuality is a spectrum, not a lot of people are completely straight or gay based on long-standing studies. In our society there's a lot of stigma so some of the most gay people of all swear up and down they are totally straight. You will never get past that issue here in the US, so any conversation is a non-starter.

Whereas in Thailand there's very little stigma. Ladyboys are common and generally don't consider themselves male or female (there are trans people in Thailand, but they aren't ladyboys). Either you like your dick sucked by them or you don't. No profound questions necessary, obviously you aren't completely straight if you do but neither is almost anybody. It is quite normal for a "straight" woman to find other women attractive, but not enough to want sexual relationships with them. Same for men. There are a lot more 1's and 2's on the Kinsey scale than 0's. Most of the 0's are extremely closeted due to religion. I have a best friend that to this day is a 6 who pretends to be a 0 because of religion, he won't leave it.[/QUOTE]I agree with Wally on this. Good discussion.

[QUOTE=DaveSC;6974854]Trying to figure out if it's coincidence or me.

I changed mobile providers yesterday, and I'm unable to get onto bedpage. Not sure if it's blocked by the new provider, or by the account by default with the new provider, or might just be that page is coincidentally down just as I switch.

I guess first question, is it really down? Second question would be, how do you address this with the cell company?[/QUOTE]If you're using an iPhone, check this post:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3578-General-Reports&p=6937336&viewfull=1[/URL]#post6937336.

[QUOTE=DaveSC;6974854]Trying to figure out if it's coincidence or me.

I changed mobile providers yesterday, and I'm unable to get onto bedpage. Not sure if it's blocked by the new provider, or by the account by default with the new provider, or might just be that page is coincidentally down just as I switch.

I guess first question, is it really down? Second question would be, how do you address this with the cell company?[/QUOTE]Did you try purging all your cookies and history? Sometimes a browser will remember a page and its subpage. So if something changed on their end, your browser might be trying to go to a dead page. Or try a different browswer or different computer. Also, some public places have wifi, and there are sites which are black listed from use. Which is a good idea so a bunch of high school kids go to the public library to watch porn online.

I've seen many SWs in my first year of mongering so far, and I just realized that I haven't seen a single American provider: thinking_emoji:.

I mainly been seeing latinas and sometimes asians.

The thing is. . . I feel like I'm not missing out on much loll.

But a thick curvy white MILF is definitely on my wishlist.

Side note:

I wish more MPs and even escorts have 45 min sessions as a provided service.

30 min can be too fast, and 1 hour can be a bit too long for me sometimes.

But 45 minutes is that sweet spot for me. Angela Spa in Santa Ana has 45 min sessions, and shit was so clutch.

[QUOTE=DaveSC;6974854]Trying to figure out if it's coincidence or me.

I changed mobile providers yesterday, and I'm unable to get onto bedpage. Not sure if it's blocked by the new provider, or by the account by default with the new provider, or might just be that page is coincidentally down just as I switch.

I guess first question, is it really down? Second question would be, how do you address this with the cell company?[/QUOTE]I'm sure you have found, the sites in question are not down. Lots of good troubleshooting advise already given, so hopefully you've tried those.

I would try side by side, your cell phone and another device. That will tell you, that in fact you can reach site a / b or if its your phone / provider.

As others have said, isolate the issue. Is it your phone or your mobile service provider. You can turn on wifi, turn off cell service, etc.

If you find its the device, then you'll need to work thru the settings. If the issue seems to be the carrier, I don't think you stand a chance of getting it corrected. IF it is the carrier, they've blocked it for whatever reason they have. Getting that issue communicated, well that might be humbling as well.

True story, a friend worked for a wireless carrier in IT. Their IT department had issues with devices connecting from their own carriers wireless network, Some required ports for the application were blocked, where any other carrier was not blocked. Totally common app. The internal IT team tried to reach out to the wireless team that would be responsible. Not sure they ever got to the correct team.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6971237]

I think the misunderstanding comes from a cultural difference. Many American women speak of any kind of sex with an older man as if its disgusting, and almost a form of sexual abuse if there is a 20 year age gap in a marriage. There is disgust with men's sexual needs and satisfaction, and an anti-male anti-boomer attitude in many quarters. So the idea of a woman doing sex work, and doing her job happily is unimaginable. Most of these Chinese women working the shops do not seem to be nymphomaniacs, they are just women who are ok with the job, and making more money than they ever dreamed possible. There is also some simple-minded racist views of Asian women as weak and compliant. Which comes from people who have not been around Chinese or Korean women much.[/QUOTE]I got to know several hundred young Asian women in my professional life and I absolutely agree, not weak or compliant. You have to look below the surface-level Confucious proper etiquette.

And then, to build on the first part of Dark's paragraph, I think another cultural difference is the acceptance of men's sex drive. In China, women think that's just how men are, accept them for what they are. In the US, if you want more sex than your White wife wants, well, that just proves how bad you are, thoughtless, selfish. Also, in the US it seems like a lot of White women look down on other women who really enjoy sex, and that's an inhibiting influence. Just my 2 c worth, could be wrong.

Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;6981681]I got to know several hundred young Asian women in my professional life and I absolutely agree, not weak or compliant. You have to look below the surface-level Confucious proper etiquette.

And then, to build on the first part of Dark's paragraph, I think another cultural difference is the acceptance of men's sex drive. In China, women think that's just how men are, accept them for what they are. In the US, if you want more sex than your White wife wants, well, that just proves how bad you are, thoughtless, selfish. Also, in the US it seems like a lot of White women look down on other women who really enjoy sex, and that's an inhibiting influence. Just my 2 c worth, could be wrong.

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]I tried to add a note of informality by writing as one word "g o t t a," but the site rewrote that as "got to," and somehow that didn't seem right, so I gave up and wrote "have to". Also just now I see it won't let me but the period inside the quotes. Jes' sayin'.

Otherwise this site is wonderful.

Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=EncinoChad;6978903]I've seen many SWs in my first year of mongering so far, and I just realized that I haven't seen a single American provider: thinking_emoji:.

I mainly been seeing latinas and sometimes asians.

The thing is. . . I feel like I'm not missing out on much loll.

But a thick curvy white MILF is definitely on my wishlist.

Side note:

I wish more MPs and even escorts have 45 min sessions as a provided service.

30 min can be too fast, and 1 hour can be a bit too long for me sometimes.

But 45 minutes is that sweet spot for me. Angela Spa in Santa Ana has 45 min sessions, and shit was so clutch.[/QUOTE]When you say "American" are you referring to those who are American citizens, or are you referring to something else? If the former, how do you know the Latinas and Asians you've seen weren't American citizens?

[QUOTE=HoDough;6981763]When you say "American" are you referring to those who are American citizens, or are you referring to something else? If the former, how do you know the Latinas and Asians you've seen weren't American citizens?[/QUOTE]American provider = provider that grew up here in the states.

The providers I've seen all told me that they're from other countries, they also knew little to no English.

I have to break out my Spanish for most of my visits.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;6981681]I got to know several hundred young Asian women in my professional life and I absolutely agree, not weak or compliant. You have to look below the surface-level Confucious proper etiquette.

And then, to build on the first part of Dark's paragraph, I think another cultural difference is the acceptance of men's sex drive. In China, women think that's just how men are, accept them for what they are. In the US, if you want more sex than your White wife wants, well, that just proves how bad you are, thoughtless, selfish. Also, in the US it seems like a lot of White women look down on other women who really enjoy sex, and that's an inhibiting influence. Just my 2 c worth, could be wrong.

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]I was in Japan in a convenience store and my American friend was showing me some anime that was fairly x-rated. At that point, a Japanese guy came in to look for a magazine, and I felt a little embarrassed that we were looking at soft-porn, but my friend said "hey in Asia there is no shame about this". And it then became clear why so many American guys end up in Asia but relatively few American women. On the other hand, places like Paris or Italy, you see American women or older people, but not single guys hanging out and teaching English.

Taking even a broader perspective even of Western culture going back to kings and emperors going back 2000 years, its clear that even married men have an appetite for some side honey. Its natural, and going back to cave man days, then men who loved'them-and-leaved'them had more offspring than stodgy guys who stayed with one woman. Of course it was better for the woman to have a big guy protect her and the kids, and to bring home a mastodon steak every once in a while. This is one theory as to why, we as dudes are horny 365 days a year, but most other animals are only horny when they encounter a female in heat. If a woman can dangle some tuna and keep us interested all year, we are better providers and will keep coming back for more. Or in our parlance, we become "regulars".

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6982645]I was in Japan in a convenience store and my American friend was showing me some anime that was fairly x-rated. At that point, a Japanese guy came in to look for a magazine, and I felt a little embarrassed that we were looking at soft-porn, but my friend said "hey in Asia there is no shame about this". And it then became clear why so many American guys end up in Asia but relatively few American women. On the other hand, places like Paris or Italy, you see American women or older people, but not single guys hanging out and teaching English.

Taking even a broader perspective even of Western culture going back to kings and emperors going back 2000 years, its clear that even married men have an appetite for some side honey. Its natural, and going back to cave man days, then men who loved'them-and-leaved'them had more offspring than stodgy guys who stayed with one woman. Of course it was better for the woman to have a big guy protect her and the kids, and to bring home a mastodon steak every once in a while. This is one theory as to why, we as dudes are horny 365 days a year, but most other animals are only horny when they encounter a female in heat. If a woman can dangle some tuna and keep us interested all year, we are better providers and will keep coming back for more. Or in our parlance, we become "regulars".[/QUOTE]I lived for years in big cities and small, in China. I knew thousands of women, fucked hundreds, and married one.

Chinese women have a shell of Confucian conformity around them. On the outside, you see a songbird. If you can break through the shell, you find a tigress.

For example, I dated a woman about 15 years younger than me. When I met her, a mutual attraction was evident. She introduced her father, who was in his 80's. The old man impressed me with stories of the long March, his meeting with Mao, and the Western author CP Snow. My interest in Daddy aroused intense jealousy in the daughter with whom I had not yet had sex. She took me to her small room in the family apartment.

"Can I get you to like me as much as you like my father". She opened my fly, pulled my flaccid penis out of the opening in my boxers, and started to lick and suck the tip sensually. The shell was broken.

I had similar dating experiences with other women. All equally horny and all expecting horniness from me. When I was horny, and they were not, they always worshiped and satisfied my bodily excitement.

I have more stories if you want to hear.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6982645]I was in Japan in a convenience store and my American friend was showing me some anime that was fairly x-rated. At that point, a Japanese guy came in to look for a magazine, and I felt a little embarrassed that we were looking at soft-porn, but my friend said "hey in Asia there is no shame about this". And it then became clear why so many American guys end up in Asia but relatively few American women. On the other hand, places like Paris or Italy, you see American women or older people, but not single guys hanging out and teaching English.

Taking even a broader perspective even of Western culture going back to kings and emperors going back 2000 years, its clear that even married men have an appetite for some side honey. Its natural, and going back to cave man days, then men who loved'them-and-leaved'them had more offspring than stodgy guys who stayed with one woman. Of course it was better for the woman to have a big guy protect her and the kids, and to bring home a mastodon steak every once in a while. This is one theory as to why, we as dudes are horny 365 days a year, but most other animals are only horny when they encounter a female in heat. If a woman can dangle some tuna and keep us interested all year, we are better providers and will keep coming back for more. Or in our parlance, we become "regulars".[/QUOTE]I honestly believe that we aren't meant to be monogamous. At least men aren't. Women maybe, but men are hardwired to be horny and to be attracted to certain physical attributes in women. Culturally most of us want to be monogamous. I have a great marriage and family life and wouldn't want it any other way. But at the same time, sex in a monogamous life gets pretty boring, and that's why the world invented things like prostitution and swinging. I have long held the belief that my mongering over the years has kept my marriage and family life healthy. I do feel guilty about it sometimes (or often actually). If my SO ever found out it would be absolutely devastating for her, and that alone bothers me. But at the same time it is fully transactional. I don't have any emotional attachment to anybody I've ever mongered with. I show up, do the deed, pay my money, and leave. Up until fairly recently almost all of my mongering was overseas, so I never saw anybody more than once. This building up relationships to get better service thing that is prominent around here now is a new thing to me, and I'm hesitant to go there because after seeing a girl more than once or twice I start to feel a little bit attached. So there's a very fine line to walk there. One between building up just enough trust to get good service and being "too attached" or looking forward to seeing that person a little too much.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6983711]I honestly believe that we aren't meant to be monogamous. At least men aren't. Women maybe, but men are hardwired to be horny and to be attracted to certain physical attributes in women. Culturally most of us want to be monogamous. I have a great marriage and family life and wouldn't want it any other way. But at the same time, sex in a monogamous life gets pretty boring, and that's why the world invented things like prostitution and swinging. I have long held the belief that my mongering over the years has kept my marriage and family life healthy. I do feel guilty about it sometimes (or often actually). If my SO ever found out it would be absolutely devastating for her, and that alone bothers me. But at the same time it is fully transactional. I don't have any emotional attachment to anybody I've ever mongered with. I show up, do the deed, pay my money, and leave. Up until fairly recently almost all of my mongering was overseas, so I never saw anybody more than once. This building up relationships to get better service thing that is prominent around here now is a new thing to me, and I'm hesitant to go there because after seeing a girl more than once or twice I start to feel a little bit attached. So there's a very fine line to walk there. One between building up just enough trust to get good service and being "too attached" or looking forward to seeing that person a little too much.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you, Grimmy. I suspect that women are also biologically polyamorous.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6983711]I honestly believe that we aren't meant to be monogamous. At least men aren't. Women maybe, but men are hardwired to be horny and to be attracted to certain physical attributes in women. Culturally most of us want to be monogamous. I have a great marriage and family life and wouldn't want it any other way. But at the same time, sex in a monogamous life gets pretty boring, and that's why the world invented things like prostitution and swinging. I have long held the belief that my mongering over the years has kept my marriage and family life healthy. I do feel guilty about it sometimes (or often actually). If my SO ever found out it would be absolutely devastating for her, and that alone bothers me. But at the same time it is fully transactional. I don't have any emotional attachment to anybody I've ever mongered with. I show up, do the deed, pay my money, and leave. Up until fairly recently almost all of my mongering was overseas, so I never saw anybody more than once. This building up relationships to get better service thing that is prominent around here now is a new thing to me, and I'm hesitant to go there because after seeing a girl more than once or twice I start to feel a little bit attached. So there's a very fine line to walk there. One between building up just enough trust to get good service and being "too attached" or looking forward to seeing that person a little too much.[/QUOTE]I bet some guys start feeling the "7 year itch", or have a "mid-life crisis" or whatever. The idea of having boring sex with the same woman who is involved in all kinds of non-sexual business with you all day. Then it gradually comes to your mind how hot it would be to have some wild sex with a new woman. What an adventure! It would make you feel 10 years younger and remind you of how you used to be in your single days. So you meet someone, and end up in a love affair, and maybe end up in a divorce.

So mongering takes the pressure off. Its a safety value so the pressure does not build up to an explosion. Its never as satisfying as being with a woman who is with you just because she likes you, but its a decent approximation. And when the hour is up, you leave with a spring in your step, and feel great. And then everything else is a little easier to take. You might even appreciate being with a woman who cares about you more than she cares about what tip you will be handing over.

So mongering probably does save many marriages.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6983711]I honestly believe that we aren't meant to be monogamous. At least men aren't. Women maybe, but men are hardwired to be horny and to be attracted to certain physical attributes in women. Culturally most of us want to be monogamous. I have a great marriage and family life and wouldn't want it any other way. But at the same time, sex in a monogamous life gets pretty boring, and that's why the world invented things like prostitution and swinging. I have long held the belief that my mongering over the years has kept my marriage and family life healthy. I do feel guilty about it sometimes (or often actually). If my SO ever found out it would be absolutely devastating for her, and that alone bothers me. But at the same time it is fully transactional. I don't have any emotional attachment to anybody I've ever mongered with. I show up, do the deed, pay my money, and leave. Up until fairly recently almost all of my mongering was overseas, so I never saw anybody more than once. This building up relationships to get better service thing that is prominent around here now is a new thing to me, and I'm hesitant to go there because after seeing a girl more than once or twice I start to feel a little bit attached. So there's a very fine line to walk there. One between building up just enough trust to get good service and being "too attached" or looking forward to seeing that person a little too much.[/QUOTE]In my humble opinion, Men aren't meant to be monogamous. There's 7 billion people in the world. It wouldn't happen if everyone was monogamous. Also Men and Women cheat differently. Women cheat emotionally and bond differently when they have sex. When women have sex, they pair bond with that person. Their biology works differently than men.

Men can have sex with no emotional attachment. Men cheat by providing for that other person such as buying houses or providing for that person.

Depending on your SO, it might be better for you to come up with an agreement between the both of you where you can have sex with multiple people. Just don't embarrass her and don't bring any outside babies or diseases.

Just food for thought.

[QUOTE=Chaos019;6984455]In my humble opinion, Men aren't meant to be monogamous. There's 7 billion people in the world. It wouldn't happen if everyone was monogamous. Also Men and Women cheat differently. Women cheat emotionally and bond differently when they have sex. When women have sex, they pair bond with that person. Their biology works differently than men.

Men can have sex with no emotional attachment. Men cheat by providing for that other person such as buying houses or providing for that person.

Depending on your SO, it might be better for you to come up with an agreement between the both of you where you can have sex with multiple people. Just don't embarrass her and don't bring any outside babies or diseases.

Just food for thought.[/QUOTE]Men and women are not so biologically different. The difference is cultural. Women cheat differently because of cultural mores and expectations, not because of any biological difference. Read the book "Sex at Dawn" by Ryan [URL]https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sex[/URL]+at+dawn&crid=3 JJFHA0652 ZCZ&sprefix=sex+at+dawn%2 Caps%2 C162&ref=nb_sb_noss_2.

I married my first wife when I was about 25 years old because she was very sexual, and very culturally uninhibited. We fucked five times a day on weekends and twice every weekday night. But such a sexual woman cannot fuck with just one guy. Her first cheating was with a guy in her university chemistry course. She told me how being near him made her pussy drip so much that her jeans were soaked. Then there was the gas station attendant and the lawyer and the travelling European student she met in a bar. I was immature and could not put up with the cheating and my jealousy. Funny thing was that she was the only woman I was ever faithful with. I have not heard from her in 55 years. I bet she chalked up at least as many lovers as I did in my life.

[QUOTE=BSouthgate;6985489]Men and women are not so biologically different. The difference is cultural. Women cheat differently because of cultural mores and expectations, not because of any biological difference. Read the book "Sex at Dawn" by Ryan [URL]https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sex[/URL]+at+dawn&crid=3 JJFHA0652 ZCZ&sprefix=sex+at+dawn%2 Caps%2 C162&ref=nb_sb_noss_2.

I married my first wife when I was about 25 years old because she was very sexual, and very culturally uninhibited. We fucked five times a day on weekends and twice every weekday night. But such a sexual woman cannot fuck with just one guy. Her first cheating was with a guy in her university chemistry course. She told me how being near him made her pussy drip so much that her jeans were soaked. Then there was the gas station attendant and the lawyer and the travelling European student she met in a bar. I was immature and could not put up with the cheating and my jealousy. Funny thing was that she was the only woman I was ever faithful with. I have not heard from her in 55 years. I bet she chalked up at least as many lovers as I did in my life.[/QUOTE]Dogs and cats are different because they are trained differently too. Without these cultural expectations, dogs would meow, and cats would bark. .

The thing with women is that they are more variable than men. As dudes, we behave more or less the same, and we want the same things more or less. And our DNA shows this. But women are more all over the place. There are some like the case you mention. There are also women who can go years without sex and not miss it. There are women who would prefer a good clothed cuddle to penetration. How many guys would be happy to without sex, after some cuddling and kissing, and you have rock hard wood poking a hole in your pants?

All mammals have gender differentiation. Almost all males want to sew their wild oats, then take off and find more females to impregnate. Women / females either don't want males around at all (who might eat her babies) or need their protection and help I child raising.

This is in response to a recent post in the MP thread about how much we're spending. I think it's better to continue it here.

For years I went for FS twice a month. Last year I had tighten the belt somewhat and I cut back to once a month, FS. Now I'm loosening up a little and go twice a month sometimes. My appetite for FS ideally is once every week or two. The cost of a session for me is usually $. 6, because I'm a regular with someone who asks just $. 2 extra donation.

Most of you guys probably need it more often. I'm in my late 70's now. When I was in my 20's and 30's I had to do it, with partner or alone, 10 times per week. This was the result of an early puberty. Kinsey BTW found that those of us with early puberties had to do it more often.

Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;6989732]This is in response to a recent post in the MP thread about how much we're spending. I think it's better to continue it here.

For years I went for FS twice a month. Last year I had tighten the belt somewhat and I cut back to once a month, FS. Now I'm loosening up a little and go twice a month sometimes. My appetite for FS ideally is once every week or two. The cost of a session for me is usually $. 6, because I'm a regular with someone who asks just $. 2 extra donation.

Most of you guys probably need it more often. I'm in my late 70's now. When I was in my 20's and 30's I had to do it, with partner or alone, 10 times per week. This was the result of an early puberty. Kinsey BTW found that those of us with early puberties had to do it more often.

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]I am pretty close to LHU. When I was in my 20's, I could have sex five times in a day and kind of needed sex at least three or four times a week. Now 80. I can still fuck twice a week but can also control the urge much better. Due to financial restrictions, once a month is fine. I love reading the reports on this site and the opinions of other brothers. Thank you all for contributing.

BS.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;6989732]This is in response to a recent post in the MP thread about how much we're spending. I think it's better to continue it here.

For years I went for FS twice a month. Last year I had tighten the belt somewhat and I cut back to once a month, FS. Now I'm loosening up a little and go twice a month sometimes. My appetite for FS ideally is once every week or two. The cost of a session for me is usually $. 6, because I'm a regular with someone who asks just $. 2 extra donation.

Most of you guys probably need it more often. I'm in my late 70's now. When I was in my 20's and 30's I had to do it, with partner or alone, 10 times per week. This was the result of an early puberty. Kinsey BTW found that those of us with early puberties had to do it more often..[/QUOTE]I'm still relatively young compared to you, with no kids or wife. Paid off my mortgage, recently sold one of my businesses, and have some good stable passive income from various investments and other businesses. So, it gives me a decent budget to spend every month. I average about 3-4 per week, or about 15 visits per month. Not all are spa visits. It's a mix between spas, house spas (C-Orgs), and escorts. I found that sometimes I would get bored with spas with mostly Chinese girls, so I tried to mix it up a bit with Latinas and Caucasians.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6989705]Dogs and cats are different because they are trained differently too. Without these cultural expectations, dogs would meow, and cats would bark. .

The thing with women is that they are more variable than men. As dudes, we behave more or less the same, and we want the same things more or less. And our DNA shows this. But women are more all over the place. There are some like the case you mention. There are also women who can go years without sex and not miss it. There are women who would prefer a good clothed cuddle to penetration. How many guys would be happy to without sex, after some cuddling and kissing, and you have rock hard wood poking a hole in your pants?

All mammals have gender differentiation. Almost all males want to sew their wild oats, then take off and find more females to impregnate. Women / females either don't want males around at all (who might eat her babies) or need their protection and help I child raising.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you DRD. Women's libido is more variable than men's. Some never want sex. Some like it several times a day. However, there is also significant variability in men's sex drive.

I postulate that most hookers come from the latter type of woman and most johns are also those with the higher sex drive.

Years ago, I was with an escort who told me that she got into the business after her divorce. With her x, she was fucking almost every night. After he left her, she needed two things, an income source and an opportunity to satisfy her hypersexuality. She found the solution in hooking.

I stumbled upon the instagram profile of a mamasan who's location I used to frequent.

God damn, these folks are living large.

Uppity hotels, luxury items, fashion events, fancy upscale dinners, etc. Etc.

Almost makes me want to become a papasan and assemble an all-star crew. Loll.

I wonder if her family knows how she gets her money.

[QUOTE=BSouthgate;6990883]Totally agree with you DRD. Women's libido is more variable than men's. Some never want sex. Some like it several times a day. However, there is also significant variability in men's sex drive.

I postulate that most hookers come from the latter type of woman and most johns are also those with the higher sex drive.

Years ago, I was with an escort who told me that she got into the business after her divorce. With her x, she was fucking almost every night. After he left her, she needed two things, an income source and an opportunity to satisfy her hypersexuality. She found the solution in hooking.[/QUOTE]I think that with prostitutes you get the whole spectrum. Some just need the money so badly that they'll do anything for it (and unfortunately, for some of them it's to support an unsavory habit). Some like they money they make for it and don't mind opening up their legs for multiple guys a day. They don't necessarily enjoy the sex but it's what they do for a living and they accept it. They culturally don't see it as an immoral profession, and that's fine. Some actually like the sex, some a lot more than others. But here's the thing. Even if you're a woman and you love sex and have a high sex drive, think about the prospect of a dozen random guys showing up to bang you every day. You probably don't enjoy sex with all of them. Some of them probably flat out disgust you, but your job is to open your legs for them and pretend that you enjoy the sex so you hold your nose and do it. I think it's misguided to believe that every sex worker we see is going to enjoy having sex with us every time we see them. On the other hand, some of them might be absolutely insatiable, but those are likely in the extreme minority.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6991877]I think that with prostitutes you get the whole spectrum. Some just need the money so badly that they'll do anything for it (and unfortunately, for some of them it's to support an unsavory habit). Some like they money they make for it and don't mind opening up their legs for multiple guys a day. They don't necessarily enjoy the sex but it's what they do for a living and they accept it. They culturally don't see it as an immoral profession, and that's fine. Some actually like the sex, some a lot more than others. But here's the thing. Even if you're a woman and you love sex and have a high sex drive, think about the prospect of a dozen random guys showing up to bang you every day. You probably don't enjoy sex with all of them. Some of them probably flat out disgust you, but your job is to open your legs for them and pretend that you enjoy the sex so you hold your nose and do it. I think it's misguided to believe that every sex worker we see is going to enjoy having sex with us every time we see them. On the other hand, some of them might be absolutely insatiable, but those are likely in the extreme minority.[/QUOTE]The barber has to cut everybody's' hair. Some are easy when they come for their monthly trim. Some are a pain in the ass when they ask for a Matt Damon special. Some stink and have head lice. But the barber never has an orgasm while cutting. The hooker has several.

[QUOTE=BSouthgate;6989770]I am pretty close to LHU. When I was in my 20's, I could have sex five times in a day and kind of needed sex at least three or four times a week. Now 80. I can still fuck twice a week but can also control the urge much better. Due to financial restrictions, once a month is fine. I love reading the reports on this site and the opinions of other brothers. Thank you all for contributing. BS.[/QUOTE]Not as old, and not as experienced, but would like to give a shout out to all the great posters for your reviews and wealth of comments in this world. Thank you and a tip of the hat to you all. Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=BSouthgate;6991999]. Some stink and have head lice. But the barber never has an orgasm while cutting. The hooker has several.[/QUOTE]It's my understanding that in most if not all states, a barber, if they see head lice cannot continue to serve that client, they have to stop & ask person to leave due to possibility of contamination to other clients.

The girls here, yeah, I bet they get some pretty disgusting guys, those that are slobs and can't get attention elsewhere.

But I might be wrong.

[QUOTE=Taws6;6996566]It's my understanding that in most if not all states, a barber, if they see head lice cannot continue to serve that client, they have to stop & ask person to leave due to possibility of contamination to other clients.

The girls here, yeah, I bet they get some pretty disgusting guys, those that are slobs and can't get attention elsewhere.

But I might be wrong.[/QUOTE]Taws6, your point needs to be clarified.

If you are implying that a hooker cannot refuse service to a diseased client, you are dead wrong.

Indeed, escorts do refuse service to diseased clients. Massage girls, in most establishments, would have no problem refusing service if they found lice or cooties or evidence of STD. One massage girl insisted I wear a mask because I was coughing. Street girls are probably the same.

If your point regards clients with poor hygiene or ugly, it would depend on the girl. Most MP girls would hold their noses like the barber would hold his if I guy stunk.

More interesting is your assumption that Johns "can't get attention elsewhere" because they are fat, ugly, socially awkward, and sloppy. This is not the case at all. Most men who go to pros are polyamorous (genetically programmed to need multiple partners), 2. In a social situation (married or with gf) or financial situation, where they do not have the time, convenience, or money to seek sex partners on Tinder or in bars. Hookers are convenient, socially low profile (you pay them to leave), and relatively inexpensive of time and money compared to most other dating opportunities.

In my last review of Lucy at Four Seasons (below), I observed two other Johns who entered the same brothel. Neither of these was particularly ugly, overweight, or sloppy looking. Neither am I. I am old but socially adjusted, outgoing, have many friends, and very handsome. I always bathe, shave and comb my hair before I meet a woman for sex. I prefer sex with hookers to sex with pickups because I can program my time and spend less money.

I wonder if low self-esteem may be a motivation for your assumption that we brothers are all a bunch of socially backward fat nerds.

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You might want to re-read my post. Missed my point I think you did.

[QUOTE=BSouthgate;6996596]Taws6, your point needs to be clarified.

If you are implying that a hooker cannot refuse service to a diseased client, you are dead wrong.

Indeed, escorts do refuse service to diseased clients. Massage girls, in most establishments, would have no problem refusing service if they found lice or cooties or evidence of STD. One massage girl insisted I wear a mask because I was coughing. Street girls are probably the same.

If your point regards clients with poor hygiene or ugly, it would depend on the girl. Most MP girls would hold their noses like the barber would hold his if I guy stunk.

More interesting is your assumption that Johns "can't get attention elsewhere" because they are fat, ugly, socially awkward, and sloppy. This is not the case at all. Most men who go to pros are polyamorous (genetically programmed to need multiple partners), 2. In a social situation (married or with gf) or financial situation, where they do not have the time, convenience, or money to seek sex partners on Tinder or in bars. Hookers are convenient, socially low profile (you pay them to leave), and relatively inexpensive of time and money compared to most other dating opportunities.

In my last review of Lucy at Four Seasons (below), I observed two other Johns who entered the same brothel. Neither of these was particularly ugly, overweight, or sloppy looking. Neither am I. I am old but socially adjusted, outgoing, have many friends, and very handsome. I always bathe, shave and comb my hair before I meet a woman for sex. I prefer sex with hookers to sex with pickups because I can program my time and spend less money.

I wonder if low self-esteem may be a motivation for your assumption that we brothers are all a bunch of socially backward fat nerds.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6991877]I think that with prostitutes you get the whole spectrum. Some just need the money so badly that they'll do anything for it (and unfortunately, for some of them it's to support an unsavory habit). Some like they money they make for it and don't mind opening up their legs for multiple guys a day. They don't necessarily enjoy the sex but it's what they do for a living and they accept it. They culturally don't see it as an immoral profession, and that's fine. Some actually like the sex, some a lot more than others. But here's the thing. Even if you're a woman and you love sex and have a high sex drive, think about the prospect of a dozen random guys showing up to bang you every day. You probably don't enjoy sex with all of them. Some of them probably flat out disgust you, but your job is to open your legs for them and pretend that you enjoy the sex so you hold your nose and do it. I think it's misguided to believe that every sex worker we see is going to enjoy having sex with us every time we see them. On the other hand, some of them might be absolutely insatiable, but those are likely in the extreme minority.[/QUOTE]We're talking as if a bunch of girls graduate from high school, and some decide to go to university and some decide to go into the lucrative prostitution career because they like dick. I think the the missing element from this discussion is that most of these women are divorced and have a kid to support, or they have a deadbeat husband and kid to support, or they have six parents with little pension to support. A pension in China might be $300 a month, and that does not cover medical care.

I just saw a video on YT about a current scandal that blew up in China where people gave money to a children's charity, and so a single mother had a sick kid and applied to get some money for some life-saving medical treatment for her child. So the scumbag charity director would only give money to the woman if she slept with him, and she had to keep coming back to be fucked and he would dribble out a little more this charity money. Eventually her kid died, and then he kept the money for himself. Obviously that woman was not looking for a good boning, and dying to suck a dick. She did what she had to do for the love of her child.

[QUOTE=Taws6;6996991]You might want to re-read my post. Missed my point I think you did.[/QUOTE]Your post read as follows:

"It's my understanding that in most if not all states, a barber, if they see head lice cannot continue to serve that client, they have to stop & ask person to leave due to possibility of contamination to other clients.

The girls here, yeah, I bet they get some pretty disgusting guys, those that are slobs and can't get attention elsewhere.

But I might be wrong. ".

I found it slightly offensive. I am not "pretty disgusting" or "a slob" and I have always been able to attract sexual attention from women and occasionally, even at the age of 81, I occasionally encounter a smiling flirting face.

There is a tendency among some mongers to say things like, "How could a massage girl enjoy sex with guys like us" or "Why do you think your hooker is really enjoying your pathetic DATY?" These statements exhibit self-deprecation and low self-esteem. From my experience, from my extensive reading of research findings, and even from my survey of ten OC massage women, I find no support for hookers hating their jobs. On the contrary, like barbers, many enjoy their jobs immensely, but some do not enjoy them. But that has nothing to do with the customers all being fat, ugly and socially awkward.