BBFS Providers Manhattan

Does anyone know if she [URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/lucille-escort-manhattan-381718[/URL] does BBFS?

I reached out to her regarding limits and she responded vaguely with everything aside from anal which sounds like a YMMV based on her response.

[QUOTE=JesseChang90;4119277]Hey guys, long time lurker and first time poster here.

I've been a regular at two fairly well known GFE spas in Manhattan (Kiss Kiss Pop and GFE All Stars) and I've had success getting BBFS from several providers at both locations. YMMV because I've seen these girls multiple times each and I'm also Asian so I can speak their language. I don't know if the fact that I can speak to them in their native language really matters but I figured I should mention that before saying BBFS is available with them; I just know that I've gotten it on several occasions and with these girls I don't even have to ask anymore. It's just assumed I'm going bare.

KKP. Pinky and Nana.

Pinky is a newish girl and I haven't seen Nana in a while but they both have BBFS available. The first time I did it with Pinky she asked for an additional $50 but with Nana I didn't have to pay any extra.

GFE All Stars. Helen.

I've seen Helen three times and the last two were BBFS. This place is 240 all in and the girls don't expect or ask for more. I think Helen might be my ATF. She's definitely the hottest one there.

Please keep in mind that the best way to get BB in my experience is to engage in a good amount of foreplay. DATY, kissing, massaging, rimming. These are all things I do for the girls and when they're equally as horny as you are, your chances of BB go way up.

Anyway, I have an appointment with the famous Gina Rollins (this will be my first time seeing her) and I was wondering if you guys could tell me how accurate / recent her photos are. She looks pretty young in her photos but when I spoke to her on the phone to confirm my appointment, she sounded much older than her photos look, if that makes sense. Either way, after my session I will report back here but I'm sure everything that can be said about her has already been said.

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]I don't know how true this is but this is what I've been told by a number of people: it is *much* easier to get BBFS from asian girls at various spas and brothels if you are asian. I'm not sure of the reasons but I have my suspicions.

Also, I don't know how many people know about this, but there are places in Japan called "Soapland" spas where you can go in and get a massage and bareback sex. They never use condoms. But, if you are non-asian, they won't even let you in the door. They get past all of the anti-prostitution laws apparently by framing the bareback sex as them just "washing" you by using their mouths, their asses, and their pussies. There was a Japanese woman on adultwork for a while that offered this service to non-asians. She came to your hotel room though. She's the one who told me about these places. I had been planning a trip to Japan that never materialized but I did talk with her about this.

[QUOTE=Martin0028;4119671]Gina Rollins has a slightly deeper voice-not anime or girly girl like. But she looks pretty much the same as the pics. Everything is still nice and tight. She keeps herself in great shape. She is really the epitome of an escort in attitude as well as skills. There is a reason she is a legend. And to top it off she has such a nice personality. Every hobbyist should see her at least once. Have fun![/QUOTE]Gina does look mostly the same as in her pics but. She definitely looks older. The pics are about 5 years old, I'd say, maybe even 10. However, she is still hot, and still one of the best in NYC for BBFS, along with her friends. You definitely cannot go wrong by booking a session with her!!

[QUOTE=Masoko23;4119761]That's the copy and paste of one of my reviews about Samantha Sweet. I never shared it before because the woman is a mother and I respected that until a fellow monger publicly acknowledged BBFS with her. I have seen her for 3 years now multiple time. Bareback is standard practice unless you asked for the cover. Anal not on the first date. You have to see her at least once then she might let you fuck her anal bareback including creampie. Don't ask about bareback when you book her, she will not answer. Just go see her.

Also don't bring alcohol. My first time with her I brought wine and I lost literally 15 min just drinking the all bottle with her. She might be an heavy drinker.

Over the years, we get very comfortable to the point I know a lot about her private life, address and even real name.

Just do the booking, keep me out of it, follow my advice and have fun.[/QUOTE]The question is: is she worth the $500 when there are others out there like Gina and Alexis (and even a few porn stars) who charge less?

[QUOTE=TexLonghorn;4119978]I recently discovered this site, [URL]https://ladys.one/usa-new-york[/URL].

I haven't met any of the girls yet but they openly advertise what they do. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on a service you want and all the girls pop up. There are some real freaks on there. Girls who are into gang bangs, OWO, SWO, AWO, etc.

Some of the girls on this site have been mentioned in this forum before, but others not so much.

Any info?[/QUOTE]I seriously doubt that any of the things listed on that site are accurate. For one thing, if you click "porn star" you get a whole lot of girls listed who are NOT porn stars!!

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4120942]I don't know how true this is but this is what I've been told by a number of people: it is *much* easier to get BBFS from asian girls at various spas and brothels if you are asian. I'm not sure of the reasons but I have my suspicions.

Also, I don't know how many people know about this, but there are places in Japan called "Soapland" spas where you can go in and get a massage and bareback sex. They never use condoms. But, if you are non-asian, they won't even let you in the door. They get past all of the anti-prostitution laws apparently by framing the bareback sex as them just "washing" you by using their mouths, their asses, and their pussies. There was a Japanese woman on adultwork for a while that offered this service to non-asians. She came to your hotel room though. She's the one who told me about these places. I had been planning a trip to Japan that never materialized but I did talk with her about this.[/QUOTE]I think I have to agree somewhat here. I am korean. I have not gotten it bare that often, but when I did it was mostly with asian women. I have had non asian also as well, but those were seriously unexpected for me and I was not even searching for it. I just think they were horny.

Imo, for asian women its a comfort thing. Most women are not from this country. Being close to "one of their kind" makes it more familiar. The girls want BFE just as much as we want GFE. And when you're into lots of foreplay and getting them to enjoy it, its just more natural to feel like you're at home doing someone in your country. Does that even make sense? LOL.

Also, in asian countries, the bb is much more prevalent. Even if you go to the Bay Area in CA, PSE basically means BB.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4120951]I seriously doubt that any of the things listed on that site are accurate. For one thing, if you click "porn star" you get a whole lot of girls listed who are NOT porn stars!![/QUOTE]A lot of girls think they are pornstars. Some may even have a video up on a site ans they think that qualifies them to be considered a pornstar. Lots of girls on listcrawler call themselves pornstars also.

[QUOTE=RockySkis;4120348]Given that I'm seeing the same girls posted to multiple locations (NYC and Dallas and Chicago, etc), I'm inclined to think bullshit. I could be wrong, but. Probably not wrong.[/QUOTE]Some of the girls do travel I suppose. Some of the girls I have seen on other boards and have openly listed the same services. Some have already been discussed on this board such as Dolci / Cristina, KKP, etc. It may not be completely bullshit. Some of the girls may be part of an agency and the agency may be placing the ad and offering services the girl may not be aware of. Its probably 50% legit.

Do you think that the VIP tag on eros ads may mean bare is available?

I recently TOFTT. I met this girl in Westchester. [URL]https://westchester.bedpage.com/WomenSeekMen/white-plains-westchester-ny-usa/6608387.html[/URL].

(in my best Lundeberg voice) Yeah, the girl was definitely not the one in the pictures. Ad says 42 years old, but probably more like 52 years old. Pushing 250 lbs. Her tits were humongous. I really just wanted to leave as soon as I walked in.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4120942]I don't know how true this is but this is what I've been told by a number of people: it is *much* easier to get BBFS from asian girls at various spas and brothels if you are asian. I'm not sure of the reasons but I have my suspicions.

Also, I don't know how many people know about this, but there are places in Japan called "Soapland" spas where you can go in and get a massage and bareback sex. They never use condoms. But, if you are non-asian, they won't even let you in the door. They get past all of the anti-prostitution laws apparently by framing the bareback sex as them just "washing" you by using their mouths, their asses, and their pussies. There was a Japanese woman on adultwork for a while that offered this service to non-asians. She came to your hotel room though. She's the one who told me about these places. I had been planning a trip to Japan that never materialized but I did talk with her about this.[/QUOTE]I guess it depends on the girl over here because I remember when people posted about gaga allowing BBFS a bunch of reviews came through here with disappointment of no BBFS with her. But I went and I'm Spanish and not of the light skinned variety but I made her feel comfortable and I'm still young not bad looking and made her trust me that I have no std and I'm clean and after we were fucking with a condom she just ripped it off and put me inside her. You just need to know how to talk to these ladies and make them feel appreciated and not like a piece of meat that your just going to push to the side once your done and never come back. It doesn't work with everyone but I have my victories everyonce in awhile.

I have a few other sites similar to [URL]https://ladys.one/usa-new-york[/URL].

They are.

[URL]http://nycescortmodels.com/model/swo-escorts[/URL]

[URL]http://www.naughty-nyc.com/news/the-naughtiest-services-at-naughty-nyc[/URL]

Any info?

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4120947]The question is: is she worth the $500 when there are others out there like Gina and Alexis (and even a few porn stars) who charge less?[/QUOTE]Given the price / quality attributes, what Gina and her crew offer is a bargain. The group that followed them is Amanda Manhattan and her team as very distant second place. To me I have seen consistently because she is super nice and allows me my most valuable service: anal creampie. Don't get me wrong Gina get me into that as well.

[QUOTE=HiThere123;3807799]In my dreams I've never been with Janet but Danielle Derek is an active pornstar that I've been bareback with who's lives in the area (I think still). I saw Danielle several times when she was on hiatus from filming. I haven't seen her in over a year though. After my first visit she was cool with bareback. Nice girl not a clock watcher. I tried to see her a few months ago but she has someone else handle her bookings. Whoever is doing so gave me an attitude so I just decided to move on. I think her donation requests have gone up quite a bit as well.[/QUOTE]Just tried to set something up with Danielle and I got her assistant who gave me a line about not implying services.

In the process of testing the waters now. Will update once I get a response. I have a feeling that I should have kept my mouth shut but after my experience with Kiss April I simply would rather lose out on "maybe" than take a gamble.

While I understand their concerns regarding explicit language, there are SO many other stars AND agents who won't waste your time like that, and it's just not necessary to go through that. Especially if you're offering options like additional verification info, plenty of references who ALL vouch for you and a willingness to speak on the phone to avoid putting anything in writing.

[QUOTE=TexLonghorn;4121131]I have a few other sites similar to [URL]https://ladys.one/usa-new-york[/URL].

They are.

[URL]http://nycescortmodels.com/model/swo-escorts[/URL]

[URL]http://www.naughty-nyc.com/news/the-naughtiest-services-at-naughty-nyc[/URL]

Any info?[/QUOTE]Ladys. One seems like a scraper to me since as MrFrench mentioned girls are either listing as porn stars when they not. For whatever reason there are a few gems there but they don't list post dates so you're flying blind.

The other 2 you link seem sketchy as hell.

First one trips my AV. Second one screams TGTBT. No phone number email only form contact google pulls the UK version instead of the normal US with a front page post from 2017.

First site I took one girl for example. Emmanuelle. That's this girl. [URL]http://instagram.com/monstergirl_antonia[/URL].

From the second site, Ophelia, are of India Reynolds.

[QUOTE=TexLonghorn;4121117]Some of the girls do travel I suppose. Some of the girls I have seen on other boards and have openly listed the same services. Some have already been discussed on this board such as Dolci / Cristina, KKP, etc. It may not be completely bullshit. Some of the girls may be part of an agency and the agency may be placing the ad and offering services the girl may not be aware of. Its probably 50% legit.

Do you think that the VIP tag on eros ads may mean bare is available?[/QUOTE]No. The VIP is just ad placement. Girls paying a shit ton to EROS because they're the only reliable advertising platform for them here in NYC. Slixa isn't as great for them here from what I've told.

[QUOTE=SpaspaHunter;4121539]No. The VIP is just ad placement. Girls paying a shit ton to EROS because they're the only reliable advertising platform for them here in NYC. Slixa isn't as great for them here from what I've told.[/QUOTE]I had an outcall based on an Eros review, Verified even. Was not the girl in the picture and the website price of $250 I was told was just for her to show up, anything else I wanted was extra, up to $700 for what I wanted. So good luck with Eros.

[QUOTE=Fenfen;4120842]Does anyone know if she [URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/lucille-escort-manhattan-381718[/URL] does BBFS?

I reached out to her regarding limits and she responded vaguely with everything aside from anal which sounds like a YMMV based on her response.[/QUOTE]Why don't you ask the mongers who reviewed her?

[QUOTE=Chris93;4121126]I guess it depends on the girl over here because I remember when people posted about gaga allowing BBFS a bunch of reviews came through here with disappointment of no BBFS with her. But I went and I'm Spanish and not of the light skinned variety but I made her feel comfortable and I'm still young not bad looking and made her trust me that I have no std and I'm clean and after we were fucking with a condom she just ripped it off and put me inside her. You just need to know how to talk to these ladies and make them feel appreciated and not like a piece of meat that your just going to push to the side once your done and never come back. It doesn't work with everyone but I have my victories everyonce in awhile.[/QUOTE]On point. Make them comfy, make them feel like its not working, have them enjoy. They want bfe as much as we want GFE.

As for japan. If you're the wrong color, good luck. Their comfort level with outsiders is very low for the most part.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4121519]Just tried to set something up with Danielle and I got her assistant who gave me a line about not implying services.

In the process of testing the waters now. Will update once I get a response. I have a feeling that I should have kept my mouth shut but after my experience with Kiss April I simply would rather lose out on "maybe" than take a gamble.

While I understand their concerns regarding explicit language, there are SO many other stars AND agents who won't waste your time like that, and it's just not necessary to go through that. Especially if you're offering options like additional verification info, plenty of references who ALL vouch for you and a willingness to speak on the phone to avoid putting anything in writing.[/QUOTE]She was a lot more affordable when she was still dancing in NJ as Daisy Star. Her prices have wildly fluctuated since she started doing porn.

[QUOTE=JesseChang90;4119277]Hey guys, long time lurker and first time poster here.

I've been a regular at two fairly well known GFE spas in Manhattan (Kiss Kiss Pop and GFE All Stars) and I've had success getting BBFS from several providers at both locations. YMMV because I've seen these girls multiple times each and I'm also Asian so I can speak their language. I don't know if the fact that I can speak to them in their native language really matters but I figured I should mention that before saying BBFS is available with them; I just know that I've gotten it on several occasions and with these girls I don't even have to ask anymore. It's just assumed I'm going bare.

KKP. Pinky and Nana.

Pinky is a newish girl and I haven't seen Nana in a while but they both have BBFS available. The first time I did it with Pinky she asked for an additional $50 but with Nana I didn't have to pay any extra.

GFE All Stars. Helen.

I've seen Helen three times and the last two were BBFS. This place is 240 all in and the girls don't expect or ask for more. I think Helen might be my ATF. She's definitely the hottest one there.

Please keep in mind that the best way to get BB in my experience is to engage in a good amount of foreplay. DATY, kissing, massaging, rimming. These are all things I do for the girls and when they're equally as horny as you are, your chances of BB go way up..[/QUOTE]Is this KKP as it is now?

[QUOTE=MintyFresh;4121725]She was a lot more affordable when she was still dancing in NJ as Daisy Star. Her prices have wildly fluctuated since she started doing porn.[/QUOTE]I don't care so much about the pricing as I do about the BS attitude. Either tell me you don't do X or that you won't answer any questions (which is a no), or you do but don't waste both my time and yours trying to lecture or shame me in an email exchange.

Especially after I've jumped through all your hoops.

I'm direct for a reason, and if time is money then they're honestly losing more than I am by engaging in this nonsense.

[QUOTE=Chief5665;4121619]Why don't you ask the mongers who reviewed her?[/QUOTE]Because I'm not premium, I can't access the reviews or see who those people are.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4122136]I don't care so much about the pricing as I do about the BS attitude. Either tell me you don't do X or that you won't answer any questions (which is a no), or you do but don't waste both my time and yours trying to lecture or shame me in an email exchange.

Especially after I've jumped through all your hoops.

I'm direct for a reason, and if time is money then they're honestly losing more than I am by engaging in this nonsense.[/QUOTE]That's what I do. You go straight to the point. Since the ter review system is down in the US, I asked those girls direct question. Anal or no. BBFS or not, BBBJ or no and so on. I don't want to waste the money I worked hard for bullshit.

[QUOTE=TexLonghorn;4121117]

Do you think that the VIP tag on eros ads may mean bare is available?[/QUOTE]Maybe in some of cases but mostly not. From what I can tell, the VIP tag on Eros means they paid more money for their ad.

[QUOTE=Chris93;4121126]I guess it depends on the girl over here because I remember when people posted about gaga allowing BBFS a bunch of reviews came through here with disappointment of no BBFS with her. But I went and I'm Spanish and not of the light skinned variety but I made her feel comfortable and I'm still young not bad looking and made her trust me that I have no std and I'm clean and after we were fucking with a condom she just ripped it off and put me inside her. You just need to know how to talk to these ladies and make them feel appreciated and not like a piece of meat that your just going to push to the side once your done and never come back. It doesn't work with everyone but I have my victories everyonce in awhile.[/QUOTE]Well, that's certainly true in my experience and I've been saying it here a lot: if you treat the girls with courtesy and respect you never know what you're going to get.

But, it is easier for asians to get bb from asian girls. There are a lot of reasons for this. But, that doesn't mean that you can't get bb from asians if you're not an asian. It just means it's not as easy to do.

Anyone know what happened to Chelsea that chick who worked in queens was real cool and damn cheap for BBFS cip action.

Anyone have info on Karma Giordani or Alysia Wild?

Speaking of wasted time, I recently contacted Envy Jolie (or at least I'm assuming it was her at the protonmail address).

Conversation started out simple enough, I mentioned my testing status, she stated she wouldn't discuss services but would instead send me reviews once she vetted my references, and assured me that I'd get what I had in mind.

I said fine, she vetted me with no problem, seemed like things were going smoothly. She said that if I had any questions I could ask afterwards. Sent me the review screenshots, all indicated CFS.

At this point, I responded back stating that I was specifically looking for BBFSCIP and Greek CIA.

This is where things went downhill. I'm not sure if English is her first language, but each email response after that sounded increasingly incoherent, almost like a foreigner using Google translate.

Her first response basically sounded like she was looking to charge me extra for those services. So at that point I said ok fine how much extra?

Her next email after that was completely incomprehensible but it essentially sounded like she was saying that it was against her religion and that I couldn't pay her enough to perform these services. Something about when I can print money then we can talk, although the way she wrote it was nowhere near that comprehensible. She mentioned something about "eating protein", which is what leads me to believe that whoever this person was, was using Google translate.

Her next response after that seemed like it was accusing me (saracastically or otherwise) of trying to stalk or kill her and it sounded like she was expressing shock at the fact that so many stars I had seen were willing to do BBFSCIP (I didn't tell her this, but I'm sure she inferred it).

By this point her emails were suddenly so incoherent that it almost seemed like a scam and I was talking to a fake account. Again, I don't know how well she can speak English but the initial emails prior to my explicit statements were very well written by comparison. And then suddenly there was a complete 180 like I was talking to another person.

If this was a scam and a fake, it was a very confusing and poorly planned one.

I lost my patience at that point and basically said I'm done, thanks but no thanks. She sent one last email again alleging that I was trying to kill her, and I basically lost my shit and said WTF are you talking about this is confusing AF. She basically responded "Ya I'm confused too, I don't have time for this as I'm traveling. ", along with more incoherent babbling. I didn't even bother to respond at that point.

So there you have it, ladies and gents. Hands down THE strangest experience I've had yet in this hobby.

Seriously. WTF.

[QUOTE=Chris93;4122678]Anyone know what happened to Chelsea that chick who worked in queens was real cool and damn cheap for BBFS cip action.[/QUOTE]Whenever a train-wreck (at least in appearance) like her disappears, my fear is overdose. But she could have just very well took her business far elsewhere to another place closer to reliable suppliers.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4123015]Speaking of wasted time, I recently contacted Envy Jolie (or at least I'm assuming it was her at the protonmail address).

Conversation started out simple enough, I mentioned my testing status, she stated she wouldn't discuss services but would instead send me reviews once she vetted my references, and assured me that I'd get what I had in mind.

I said fine, she vetted me with no problem, seemed like things were going smoothly. She said that if I had any questions I could ask afterwards. Sent me the review screenshots, all indicated CFS.

At this point, I responded back stating that I was specifically looking for BBFSCIP and Greek CIA.

This is where things went downhill. I'm not sure if English is her first language, but each email response after that sounded increasingly incoherent, almost like a foreigner using Google translate.

Her first response basically sounded like she was looking to charge me extra for those services. So at that point I said ok fine how much extra?

Her next email after that was completely incomprehensible but it essentially sounded like she was saying that it was against her religion and that I couldn't pay her enough to perform these services. Something about when I can print money then we can talk, although the way she wrote it was nowhere near that comprehensible. She mentioned something about "eating protein", which is what leads me to believe that whoever this person was, was using Google translate.

Her next response after that seemed like it was accusing me (saracastically or otherwise) of trying to stalk or kill her and it sounded like she was expressing shock at the fact that so many stars I had seen were willing to do BBFSCIP (I didn't tell her this, but I'm sure she inferred it).

By this point her emails were suddenly so incoherent that it almost seemed like a scam and I was talking to a fake account. Again, I don't know how well she can speak English but the initial emails prior to my explicit statements were very well written by comparison. And then suddenly there was a complete 180 like I was talking to another person.

If this was a scam and a fake, it was a very confusing and poorly planned one.

I lost my patience at that point and basically said I'm done, thanks but no thanks. She sent one last email again alleging that I was trying to kill her, and I basically lost my shit and said WTF are you talking about this is confusing AF. She basically responded "Ya I'm confused too, I don't have time for this as I'm traveling. ", along with more incoherent babbling. I didn't even bother to respond at that point.

So there you have it, ladies and gents. Hands down THE strangest experience I've had yet in this hobby.

Seriously. WTF.[/QUOTE]Thats the strangest experience you ever had in this hobby? Man. Thats nothing. Sorry to say but there is worse, maybe even far worse, to come. Not hoping that on you by any means. Just saying LOL.

BTW. If she was indeed flying / traveling while e-mailing you, maybe wi-fi signals going in and out may have been the cause for the incoherent messages. Just a thought. Welcome to the hobby.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4123015]Speaking of wasted time, I recently contacted Envy Jolie (or at least I'm assuming it was her at the protonmail address).

Conversation started out simple enough, I mentioned my testing status, she stated she wouldn't discuss services but would instead send me reviews once she vetted my references, and assured me that I'd get what I had in mind.

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So there you have it, ladies and gents. Hands down THE strangest experience I've had yet in this hobby.

Seriously. WTF.[/QUOTE]This hobby attracts some strange bedfellows (pun intended). My only BBFS experience with a provider (not this one) was her idea, not mine. I had seen her every week for about six months and one day she just climbs aboard and starts pumping away. Not just once, but for the next eight months. Then she started visiting at my apartment as friends for another four months. Then she lost her fucking mind. Started peeling the layers away from her story and discovered it was mostly fabricated. Lesson? If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, don't put your dick in crazy.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4123015]Speaking of wasted time, I recently contacted Envy Jolie (or at least I'm assuming it was her at the protonmail address).

Conversation started out simple enough, I mentioned my testing status, she stated she wouldn't discuss services but would instead send me reviews once she vetted my references, and assured me that I'd get what I had in mind.

I said fine, she vetted me with no problem, seemed like things were going smoothly. She said that if I had any questions I could ask afterwards. Sent me the review screenshots, all indicated CFS.

At this point, I responded back stating that I was specifically looking for BBFSCIP and Greek CIA.

This is where things went downhill. I'm not sure if English is her first language, but each email response after that sounded increasingly incoherent, almost like a foreigner using Google translate.

Her first response basically sounded like she was looking to charge me extra for those services. So at that point I said ok fine how much extra?

Her next email after that was completely incomprehensible but it essentially sounded like she was saying that it was against her religion and that I couldn't pay her enough to perform these services. Something about when I can print money then we can talk, although the way she wrote it was nowhere near that comprehensible. She mentioned something about "eating protein", which is what leads me to believe that whoever this person was, was using Google translate.

Her next response after that seemed like it was accusing me (saracastically or otherwise) of trying to stalk or kill her and it sounded like she was expressing shock at the fact that so many stars I had seen were willing to do BBFSCIP (I didn't tell her this, but I'm sure she inferred it).

By this point her emails were suddenly so incoherent that it almost seemed like a scam and I was talking to a fake account. Again, I don't know how well she can speak English but the initial emails prior to my explicit statements were very well written by comparison. And then suddenly there was a complete 180 like I was talking to another person.

If this was a scam and a fake, it was a very confusing and poorly planned one.

I lost my patience at that point and basically said I'm done, thanks but no thanks. She sent one last email again alleging that I was trying to kill her, and I basically lost my shit and said WTF are you talking about this is confusing AF. She basically responded "Ya I'm confused too, I don't have time for this as I'm traveling. ", along with more incoherent babbling. I didn't even bother to respond at that point.

So there you have it, ladies and gents. Hands down THE strangest experience I've had yet in this hobby.

Seriously. WTF.[/QUOTE]She just emailed me earlier to tell me she was drunk when she wrote those responses 😂.

She did agree to BBFS but at a higher rate than her website lists.

I'm still trying to negotiate. Will update if things go well.

[QUOTE=Chris93;4122678]Anyone know what happened to Chelsea that chick who worked in queens was real cool and damn cheap for BBFS cip action.[/QUOTE]That she either went to another town to work (she told me she was from virginia or pa) or she got locked up again (I had her tell me about her lesbian lock up love while I was fucking her). Anyways I only saw her once as her rates practically doubled and she tried to accuse me of taking advantage of her bs.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4123015]Speaking of wasted time, I recently contacted Envy Jolie (or at least I'm assuming it was her at the protonmail address).

Conversation started out simple enough, I mentioned my testing status, she stated she wouldn't discuss services but would instead send me reviews once she vetted my references, and assured me that I'd get what I had in mind.

I said fine, she vetted me with no problem, seemed like things were going smoothly. She said that if I had any questions I could ask afterwards. Sent me the review screenshots, all indicated CFS.

At this point, I responded back stating that I was specifically looking for BBFSCIP and Greek CIA.

This is where things went downhill. I'm not sure if English is her first language, but each email response after that sounded increasingly incoherent, almost like a foreigner using Google translate.

Her first response basically sounded like she was looking to charge me extra for those services. So at that point I said ok fine how much extra?

Her next email after that was completely incomprehensible but it essentially sounded like she was saying that it was against her religion and that I couldn't pay her enough to perform these services. Something about when I can print money then we can talk, although the way she wrote it was nowhere near that comprehensible. She mentioned something about "eating protein", which is what leads me to believe that whoever this person was, was using Google translate.

Her next response after that seemed like it was accusing me (saracastically or otherwise) of trying to stalk or kill her and it sounded like she was expressing shock at the fact that so many stars I had seen were willing to do BBFSCIP (I didn't tell her this, but I'm sure she inferred it).

By this point her emails were suddenly so incoherent that it almost seemed like a scam and I was talking to a fake account. Again, I don't know how well she can speak English but the initial emails prior to my explicit statements were very well written by comparison. And then suddenly there was a complete 180 like I was talking to another person.

If this was a scam and a fake, it was a very confusing and poorly planned one.

I lost my patience at that point and basically said I'm done, thanks but no thanks. She sent one last email again alleging that I was trying to kill her, and I basically lost my shit and said WTF are you talking about this is confusing AF. She basically responded "Ya I'm confused too, I don't have time for this as I'm traveling. ", along with more incoherent babbling. I didn't even bother to respond at that point.

So there you have it, ladies and gents. Hands down THE strangest experience I've had yet in this hobby.

Seriously. WTF.[/QUOTE]Careful with this one Uncle. I never had any experience with her, but I checked out her twitter and she sounds very incoherent. Plus from the looks of her twitter timeline, which may or may not be her, it looks like she has a lot of stalkers.

Hope it works out for you.

[QUOTE=KidCash21;4123496]Careful with this one Uncle. I never had any experience with her, but I checked out her twitter and she sounds very incoherent. Plus from the looks of her twitter timeline, which may or may not be her, it looks like she has a lot of stalkers.

Hope it works out for you.[/QUOTE]I see her Twitter is followed by other stars like Minka with their verified accounts so that's a plus.

And if she's normally incoherent that actually makes more sense LOL.

Isn't she Norwegian? Probably has a hard time translating certain things to English?

But I don't see any other Twitter accounts pretending to be her. So it looks legit.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4123707]I see her Twitter is followed by other stars like Minka with their verified accounts so that's a plus.

And if she's normally incoherent that actually makes more sense LOL.

Isn't she Norwegian? Probably has a hard time translating certain things to English?

But I don't see any other Twitter accounts pretending to be her. So it looks legit.[/QUOTE]My information says that she's of latin descent and born in Phoenix, Arizona. .

It's possible that you were actually communicating with a booking assistant who might have been anyone. I know that she does bookings through AlluringIntros (formerly ExclusiveModelIntroductions) and English may not be a first language for whoever you were talking with. Although I know they usually won't discuss services so it might have been someone else.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4123773]My information says that she's of latin descent and born in Phoenix, Arizona. .

It's possible that you were actually communicating with a booking assistant who might have been anyone. I know that she does bookings through AlluringIntros (formerly ExclusiveModelIntroductions) and English may not be a first language for whoever you were talking with. Although I know they usually won't discuss services so it might have been someone else.[/QUOTE]I'm with French on this one. It could be an agent you were communicating with. I have seen Instagram videos of Envy talking and she speaks English very well. It could be her Booker you were exchanging info with.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4123773]My information says that she's of latin descent and born in Phoenix, Arizona. .

It's possible that you were actually communicating with a booking assistant who might have been anyone. I know that she does bookings through AlluringIntros (formerly ExclusiveModelIntroductions) and English may not be a first language for whoever you were talking with. Although I know they usually won't discuss services so it might have been someone else.[/QUOTE]There's another website: Envy Jolie's playmates, which also has it's own Twitter. I emailed them asking if the other Twitter account no (at XXXEnvy4 U) was legit.

I did the same thing with Victoria June and other stars when I suspected a scam email address.

Will see what happens.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4123950]There's another website: Envy Jolie's playmates, which also has it's own Twitter. I emailed them asking if the other Twitter account no (at XXXEnvy4 U) was legit.

I did the same thing with Victoria June and other stars when I suspected a scam email address.

Will see what happens.[/QUOTE]I think its legit. Her Instagram xxxenvy4 u has her saying she is visiting NYC.

According to AIA, Envy Jolie was visiting NYC from 1/22-1/24.