Rants, Raves, and Opinions

We all have those girls if they put in a bit more effort in things that are minor but would go a long way.

Let's start with Jessica 40 DDD. Apparently has amazing head game but lord have mercy the basement is a fucking boner killer and really makes anyone uncomfortable. Literally sounds like she just needs to find a couch, table, tv and tv stand and the place would feel a lot more friendly. (I'm not saying we need to get all that.).

I know we aren't suppose to save these girls and they need to figure it out but my goodness, is there a fucking way we can give them a push into the right direction? We all have those girls who are ALMOST there but they just need some luck to go there way. What would be the best thing to do about these situations? Because there are other girls as well that just need to give a bit more effort and things will definitely get better for them pending their bad habits and how much they let it control them.

[QUOTE=BagelFish;3899034]We all have those girls if they put in a bit more effort in things that are minor but would go a long way.

Let's start with Jessica 40 DDD. Apparently has amazing head game but lord have mercy the basement is a fucking boner killer and really makes anyone uncomfortable. Literally sounds like she just needs to find a couch, table, tv and tv stand and the place would feel a lot more friendly. (I'm not saying we need to get all that.).

I know we aren't suppose to save these girls and they need to figure it out but my goodness, is there a fucking way we can give them a push into the right direction? We all have those girls who are ALMOST there but they just need some luck to go there way. What would be the best thing to do about these situations? Because there are other girls as well that just need to give a bit more effort and things will definitely get better for them pending their bad habits and how much they let it control them.[/QUOTE]Been there, done that, own the t-shirt. Your last sentence says it all. If they're using, the habit ALWAYS comes first. Always. Buy them those things, come back a week later and the couch will be stained, have cigarette burns on it and will be missing a cushion because a roommate is using it for a pillow. The TV was sold or pawned before you were halfway home. The table is chipped and scratched. If they had control over their habit they'd have all those things already.

HS.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3899115]Been there, done that, own the t-shirt. Your last sentence says it all. If they're using, the habit ALWAYS comes first. Always. Buy them those things, come back a week later and the couch will be stained, have cigarette burns on it and will be missing a cushion because a roommate is using it for a pillow. The TV was sold or pawned before you were halfway home. The table is chipped and scratched. If they had control over their habit they'd have all those things already.

HS.[/QUOTE]More true words were never spoken Brother H. S. You are a fountain of information. Another week the TV tray is a large ash tray and the table is broken. The couch was moved upstairs or outside. But the free weekly TV guide from 3 weeks ago remains.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3899115]Been there, done that, own the t-shirt. Your last sentence says it all. If they're using, the habit ALWAYS comes first. Always. Buy them those things, come back a week later and the couch will be stained, have cigarette burns on it and will be missing a cushion because a roommate is using it for a pillow. The TV was sold or pawned before you were halfway home. The table is chipped and scratched. If they had control over their habit they'd have all those things already.

HS.[/QUOTE]Some people are just messed up and it's not always drugs. They are just lost souls. A lot of people (I could say "women" but I don't want to come down on one gender or the other) can't keep it between the lines. Those are the ones that seem to have a black cloud over their heads. They are always in trouble one way or another. I just found out that someone I know is about to lose their house to foreclosure. She has a job but is always underwater in debt. Just poor choices, as Dr. Phil would say. Her mother lost her house to a gambling addiction. These are otherwise "normal" people that dig themselves into a hole and can't seem to find their way out.

As HS says about the addicts: there isn't much any of us can do for those people. We are enabling their lifestyle by spending our money with them but my rationalization is that they are going to engage in that lifestyle anyways and there is nothing I can do to change anything. It is what it is. Take it or leave it.

Saw this and thought it was funny.

Prostitute. Prepaid plan.

Girlfriend. Monthly subscription plan.

Wife. Lifetime contract plan, penalty fee if cancellation.

[QUOTE=CuriousJack;3912911]I never knew the amount spent on the habit on a given day, I suppose it's similar if the addiction is crack. I suspect the majority of the SW's do both H and crack. Another unsettling thought: That's a lot of dick sucking each and every day![/QUOTE]This was originally in SW's but I moved my response over here so as not to tie up the flow of info there.

Yes, the majority are using both Boy (Heroin) and Girl (crack). I know guys get mad at me for "driving the price up" by offering them 30, but for many that's the magic number because they can get a bag of Boy for 20 and a bag of Girl for 10. If they can get 40 for full service they're very happy because they can get a pack of smokes or a few bags of chips and a soda as well.

That's why the streets are so predictably cyclic. They get money, they score, they use and 3-4 hours they are out there again for the next score. Pretty much 24 hours a day. Naps here and there, maybe 2 hours of sleep somewhere during the day. 24 hours in a day, out there every 4 hours, 6 tricks a day. And we wonder why they aren't overly enthusiastic most of the time.

$200 a day is $73,000 a year on dope which I wager is more than many of us bring home in a year. Then think of the well established dealer running a house. 5 SW's a day and maybe 10 others making money other ways and they're looking at $3000 a day or a million a year. That's not all profit they have big expenses, but figure they are clearing $200,000 or $300,000 a year. And that's at the street level. For every one that gets busted or killed there's another willing to risk it for that kind of money.

We tend to think of going down and getting our 20 or 30 dollar BBBJ, but the money involved is actually staggering.

HS.

For the girls that are under management you have to double the daily total for their take. Dawn back in the early 2000's I knew her fairly well and for every dick she sucked she had to give up half with a minimum of $10.00 a dick. So if she got low balled down to $15.00 she would only get $5. 00 out of it. Most of the time management is also the dealer so they get only their medication of choice and maybe a something to eat. With that said I think your numbers are low.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3912988]This was originally in SW's but I moved my response over here so as not to tie up the flow of info there.

Yes, the majority are using both Boy (Heroin) and Girl (crack). I know guys get mad at me for "driving the price up" by offering them 30, but for many that's the magic number because they can get a bag of Boy for 20 and a bag of Girl for 10. If they can get 40 for full service they're very happy because they can get a pack of smokes or a few bags of chips and a soda as well.

That's why the streets are so predictably cyclic. They get money, they score, they use and 3-4 hours they are out there again for the next score. Pretty much 24 hours a day. Naps here and there, maybe 2 hours of sleep somewhere during the day. 24 hours in a day, out there every 4 hours, 6 tricks a day. And we wonder why they aren't overly enthusiastic most of the time.

$200 a day is $73,000 a year on dope which I wager is more than many of us bring home in a year. Then think of the well established dealer running a house. 5 SW's a day and maybe 10 others making money other ways and they're looking at $3000 a day or a million a year. That's not all profit they have big expenses, but figure they are clearing $200,000 or $300,000 a year. And that's at the street level. For every one that gets busted or killed there's another willing to risk it for that kind of money.

We tend to think of going down and getting our 20 or 30 dollar BBBJ, but the money involved is actually staggering.

HS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LikeHead;3913313]For the girls that are under management you have to double the daily total for their take. Dawn back in the early 2000's I knew her fairly well and for every dick she sucked she had to give up half with a minimum of $10.00 a dick. So if she got low balled down to $15.00 she would only get $5. 00 out of it. Most of the time management is also the dealer so they get only their medication of choice and maybe a something to eat. With that said I think your numbers are low.[/QUOTE]I agree, most of the time these days management is also the dealer. They do a $20 or $30 car date and turn around and spend it all on medication, effectively meaning they keep none of the money.

And, yes, I went conservative. The numbers are staggering enough. Watching the flow of traffic to some trap houses the numbers could easily be 5 times higher. I don't know if the non-SW's are stopping in once a day or making multiple trips and how much they are spending. I was basing it on the $200 average that multiple SW's have given me, a minimal number of 5 SW’s staying there, and minimal traffic above that. The larger ones could be turning a million a year in profit.

HS.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3913348]I agree, most of the time these days management is also the dealer. They do a $20 or $30 car date and turn around and spend it all on medication, effectively meaning they keep none of the money.

And, yes, I went conservative. The numbers are staggering enough. Watching the flow of traffic to some trap houses the numbers could easily be 5 times higher. I don't know if the non-SW's are stopping in once a day or making multiple trips and how much they are spending. I was basing it on the $200 average that multiple SW's have given me, a minimal number of 5 SWs staying there, and minimal traffic above that. The larger ones could be turning a million a year in profit.

HS.[/QUOTE]Why would a simple SW need management? Only reason I can think of is extorsion. These last couple of days have been a whirlwind of new information regarding the money involved in this whole business. Thanks to HS for your valuable input! I asked a provider today about her daily habit and she said $150 covers it. I then asked what was her preference, H or crack? She said, " I'd pick crack but I NEED heroine. " I could cry writing this right now. So sad.

[QUOTE=CuriousJack;3915357]I could cry writing this right now. So sad.[/QUOTE]Do you have a soft spot for strung out SW's while at the same time supporting their bad habits that put them in that predicament? Interesting.

[QUOTE=CuriousJack;3915357]Why would a simple SW need management? Only reason I can think of is extorsion. These last couple of days have been a whirlwind of new information regarding the money involved in this whole business. Thanks to HS for your valuable input! I asked a provider today about her daily habit and she said $150 covers it. I then asked what was her preference, H or crack? She said, " I'd pick crack but I NEED heroine. " I could cry writing this right now. So sad.[/QUOTE]In the bad old days a SW needed "protection" so other SW's or Managers didn't kick her ass. In today's world with Traphouses bring more of the norm, places where SW's can not just score but also stay at, the dealer is also the Manager. SW's who aren't exclusive to one Traphouse run the risk of being told they can no longer stay there or being charged more to score. During the warm weather they may live in an abounded house or even a garage or sleep in a park and score from mobile dealers working out of their cars (if they have a phone or know where the dealer will be at certain times) but when the cold weather rolls around and they want back into a traphouse they'll be asked "oh yeah? Where ya been all summer?. Extortion? Of course. But SW's have few options and fewer resources.

HS.

[QUOTE=CuriousJack;3915357]Why would a simple SW need management? Only reason I can think of is extorsion. These last couple of days have been a whirlwind of new information regarding the money involved in this whole business. Thanks to HS for your valuable input! I asked a provider today about her daily habit and she said $150 covers it. I then asked what was her preference, H or crack? She said, " I'd pick crack but I NEED heroine. " I could cry writing this right now. So sad.[/QUOTE]I bet that you're not crying while they're swallowing you're meat.

[QUOTE=CuriousJack;3915357]Why would a simple SW need management? Only reason I can think of is extorsion. These last couple of days have been a whirlwind of new information regarding the money involved in this whole business. Thanks to HS for your valuable input! I asked a provider today about her daily habit and she said $150 covers it. I then asked what was her preference, H or crack? She said, " I'd pick crack but I NEED heroine. " I could cry writing this right now. So sad.[/QUOTE]We got dudes out here crying? I luv it!

Schadenfreude is a very real thing 😁.

[QUOTE=LuvNitdc5;3916248]We got dudes out here crying? I luv it!

Schadenfreude is a very real thing 😁.[/QUOTE]I had a feeling I'd catch shit from that last post. No more compassion from me I promise. I'll just report on my experiences. Sorry if I pissed anyone off.

[QUOTE=CuriousJack;3916842]I had a feeling I'd catch shit from that last post. No more compassion from me I promise. I'll just report on my experiences. Sorry if I pissed anyone off.[/QUOTE]It's a short journey from crying like a white knight to fronting them hundreds of dollars for promised sessions that never happen. If you find yourself having feelings beyond horniness and reaching for your wallet and you're not getting serviced, it's too late. But don't feel terrible, it's happened to many senior members. It feels worse knowing you should have been smarter, than just losing your hard earned money for nothing.

[QUOTE=MilwaukeeTJ;3916901]It's a short journey from crying like a white knight to fronting them hundreds of dollars for promised sessions that never happen. If you find yourself having feelings beyond horniness and reaching for your wallet and you're not getting serviced, it's too late. But don't feel terrible, it's happened to many senior members. It feels worse knowing you should have been smarter, than just losing your hard earned money for nothing.[/QUOTE]Amen brother.

[QUOTE=CuriousJack;3916842]I had a feeling I'd catch shit from that last post. No more compassion from me I promise. I'll just report on my experiences. Sorry if I pissed anyone off.[/QUOTE]No apologies please. And I doubt anyone is pissed about any of it. You're no clown. I was a bit harsh.

SW are so far down the path already. Don't get invested, we can't help them in any way other than being respectful when we spend fifteen minutes with them.

[QUOTE=CuriousJack;3915357]Why would a simple SW need management? Only reason I can think of is extorsion. These last couple of days have been a whirlwind of new information regarding the money involved in this whole business. Thanks to HS for your valuable input! I asked a provider today about her daily habit and she said $150 covers it. I then asked what was her preference, H or crack? She said, " I'd pick crack but I NEED heroine. " I could cry writing this right now. So sad.[/QUOTE]Hey, don't feel bad. I've met some cock-gobblers that I really have liked. And yes, I've helped them out. And yes, I feel like THE BIGGEST FUCKING FAT-HEADED FOOL for doing so. It's taken me forever, and forever being taken to learn that I am just a trick. I am a source of quick cash for their habit, their kids, their self esteem, or whatever motivates a woman to willingly suck a stranger's stinky, greasy dick, get a mouthful of bodily fluids, spit, or for Five Dollars more, swallow this disgusting tasting goo. Am I glad they're there? Yep! Are pigs sentient, intelligent animals? Yep! Do eat eat bacon every fucking chance I get? So as long as I'm not eating a bacon double cheeseburger in a hog pen, or scarfing down bacon wrapped water chestnuts in a slaughter house, I relish my bacon consumption like Falstaff at Golden Coral.

Would I ever be cruel or harm a pig just for the enjoyment of it? Of course not. Would I twist a hooker's titties til she yelps a little? If I'm going to cum any time this century, OF COURSE!

So there we have it. This world is full of contradictory situations and banging strange women in the back of our cars or on some shitty stained couch, or in a luxury suite with a movie-star beautiful escort while our wife or girlfriend is at home thinking what great guys we are and how much we love them is just a few of the contra-dicked-ory moments of life. There are left leaning billionaires and poverty stricken Trump supporters. What can we do except make sure the woman is not UC LEO and that she doesn't leave the condom wrapper on the floor for our kids to find.

Coochie (fuck man, I got no answers) Eater.

God Bless You All.

P.S. Am I glad there are women in porn? FUCK YEAH! Would I want my daughter to do it? HELLZ NO! Am I glad your daughter is doing it? Need I say more?

I just want to put a general question out there in terms of how rough some are willing to go? I have been mostly exclusively on SA since 2016-17 area. I like rough play I mean I put it in my bio that I like rough, I being the one who gives it out. I have met with some resistance to it from some of the girls I have met on there but some like it so rough I have a line where I won't cross. There was a girl who has been reviewed recently who could take a beating. I mean I gave open hand strikes to the face and she took it like a champ. Another who has pulled her profile wanted to be forced oral till she was gagging. I didn't mind those because those were fun times that led to wet fun. One recently I met on the east side was shouting loudly to me to bit her nipple in half that she could take it. I was a little in shock by it. Not that I wasn't having fun just by the pain tolerance. I mean I was choping down pretty hard and was drawing a little blood out, It was a bit off putting to say the least. I had another girl in West Allis who wanted me to engage in Rape Play. Were she would be fighting back and I would have to pin her down and finish her off it was a bit weird until we talked after and she said it was hot and she wanted it again. Another middle aged woman I met of SA wanted me to sock her one in the face full fucking fist! I was like nope I boxed in HS and early college and I could damage an orbital if that happens. She was all it's ok I need that to get off and it made me think to pose this question here. What is the roughness limit you won't go beyond?

There all kinds out there, arnt there? I will admit that I am not quite the BDSM guy that you are, but, I do enjoy getting a little kinky. Supprisingly enough, I have even found a few girls that like it as well. Many of you remember Smiles, who did love it rough and tumble. She liked being choked, smacked, bitten, even slapped. The choking thing seems to be more previlant than many would think. To some it is a trust thing with the guy she is getting pounded by. Others it is the David carradine hanging naked in a closet by way of Bangkok. There was one submissive girl that would let me do anything and everything my heart desires. I stuck my dick so far down her throat her eyes rolled in the back of her head and went limp for awhile. I pulled it out and after she woke up, she gobbled it right back down the throat. I digress, as for my personal limits, I will not strike a woman. Smiles was not happy when I limp wrist slapped her like a ***** once. She almost bit my dick off in retaliation for not being able to do it, especially due to my size, I could have made it smart. Rape play. Mabye? There would have to be a lot of conversation and assurances. For me. Choking I am supprisingly ok with (go figure). As it can be a trust thing and way for girl to get off while pounding away, as long as I do it very gently (not to brag, but, I could and have broken bones with the grip. Heavy construction will give you these abilities). Biting is another as long as it is gentle. I can't bring myself to accidently bite off someone's titty or some shit.

[QUOTE=Doggo1987;3919360]I just want to put a general question out there in terms of how rough some are willing to go? I have been mostly exclusively on SA since 2016-17 area. I like rough play I mean I put it in my bio that I like rough, I being the one who gives it out. I have met with some resistance to it from some of the girls I have met on there but some like it so rough I have a line where I won't cross. There was a girl who has been reviewed recently who could take a beating. I mean I gave open hand strikes to the face and she took it like a champ. Another who has pulled her profile wanted to be forced oral till she was gagging. I didn't mind those because those were fun times that led to wet fun. One recently I met on the east side was shouting loudly to me to bit her nipple in half that she could take it. I was a little in shock by it. Not that I wasn't having fun just by the pain tolerance. I mean I was choping down pretty hard and was drawing a little blood out, It was a bit off putting to say the least. I had another girl in West Allis who wanted me to engage in Rape Play. Were she would be fighting back and I would have to pin her down and finish her off it was a bit weird until we talked after and she said it was hot and she wanted it again. Another middle aged woman I met of SA wanted me to sock her one in the face full fucking fist! I was like nope I boxed in HS and early college and I could damage an orbital if that happens. She was all it's ok I need that to get off and it made me think to pose this question here. What is the roughness limit you won't go beyond?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Doggo1987;3919360]I just want to put a general question out there in terms of how rough some are willing to go? I have been mostly exclusively on SA since 2016-17 area. I like rough play I mean I put it in my bio that I like rough, I being the one who gives it out. I have met with some resistance to it from some of the girls I have met on there but some like it so rough I have a line where I won't cross. There was a girl who has been reviewed recently who could take a beating. I mean I gave open hand strikes to the face and she took it like a champ. Another who has pulled her profile wanted to be forced oral till she was gagging. I didn't mind those because those were fun times that led to wet fun. One recently I met on the east side was shouting loudly to me to bit her nipple in half that she could take it. I was a little in shock by it. Not that I wasn't having fun just by the pain tolerance. I mean I was choping down pretty hard and was drawing a little blood out, It was a bit off putting to say the least. I had another girl in West Allis who wanted me to engage in Rape Play. Were she would be fighting back and I would have to pin her down and finish her off it was a bit weird until we talked after and she said it was hot and she wanted it again. Another middle aged woman I met of SA wanted me to sock her one in the face full fucking fist! I was like nope I boxed in HS and early college and I could damage an orbital if that happens. She was all it's ok I need that to get off and it made me think to pose this question here. What is the roughness limit you won't go beyond?[/QUOTE]I once dated a woman I worked with (awful idea in case you need another person to tell you that) and she kept going further and further down the BDSM road. One night I walked into her place and she had 10 push pins (sewing needles). She wanted me to push 5 through each nipple. I was out.

Having said that I don't have much in the way of limits with someone I've been with a couple of times as long as there's discussion, consent and a safeword.

HS.

[QUOTE=BigMilwaukee;3919714]There all kinds out there, arnt there? I will admit that I am not quite the BDSM guy that you are, but, I do enjoy getting a little kinky. Supprisingly enough, I have even found a few girls that like it as well. Many of you remember Smiles, who did love it rough and tumble. She liked being choked, smacked, bitten, even slapped.[/QUOTE]I knew Smiles socially. She was friendly, bright, funny, and had a warm personality. I knew she was a provider, but social convention and messy legal implications kept me from pursuing her.

And now I find out this cute, sweet, petite, little slip of a girl was punching bag? She liked it rough? She was so tiny, you could throw her over your knee and spank her with one hand, drink your beer with the other, and you'd never miss a play watching the Packers spank the Bears. I mean a good fart would blow her into the next room.

And you got to choke her and fuck her? I am so fucking jealous right now. I feel as though I've wasted my life.

Coochie (Oh, wait. I have wasted my life.) Eater.

Good Bless You All.

With Smiles. Loved her small perky tits. She was the best provider at talking dirty talk while you fucked her. I'm a budget friendly guy but I would spend $$ if she ever came back.

[QUOTE=CoochieEater;3920716]I knew Smiles socially. She was friendly, bright, funny, and had a warm personality. I knew she was a provider, but social convention and messy legal implications kept me from pursuing her.

And now I find out this cute, sweet, petite, little slip of a girl was punching bag? She liked it rough? She was so tiny, you could throw her over your knee and spank her with one hand, drink your beer with the other, and you'd never miss a play watching the Packers spank the Bears. I mean a good fart would blow her into the next room.

And you got to choke her and fuck her? I am so fucking jealous right now. I feel as though I've wasted my life.

Coochie (Oh, wait. I have wasted my life.) Eater.

Good Bless You All.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DaveDream;3920975]With Smiles. Loved her small perky tits. She was the best provider at talking dirty talk while you fucked her. I'm a budget friendly guy but I would spend $$ if she ever came back.[/QUOTE]Is smiles still around? Haven't seen her in a cpl years. Can you pm me her #?

[QUOTE=AveryLaser5166;3921751]Is smiles still around? Haven't seen her in a cpl years. Can you pm me her #?[/QUOTE]As I said I knew Smiles socially / quasi-business related. She was still in Milwaukee when she pulled the plug on escorting. It was about shortly after that that she fell of my map as well. As you can imagine, she had a sugar daddy. She might have got two, and / or got a really fat one to host her lifestyle. Anyway, she has permanently erased the record, and unless she surfaces somewhere else using the same name, I believe she is goner than a shadow at noon. Sad. The same is true for Mercades in Madison. One of the best providers ever to sling pussy, squirt in a face, or gush in a mouth. Dearly loved, sadly missed.

Coochie (but the world is still full of hypes, chicken-heads, rip-offs, and tweakers) Eater.

God Bless You All.

Safe sex for mongers means never ever allowing a syringe and needle into your house. A close monger friend of mine had a girl OD at his place. Rather than the embarrassing or awkward situation I had envisioned, it totally destroyed his life. Because of the thirty something year age difference, the cops were convinced that he either supplied the drugs or knew who did. They put him in jail. His landlord thought that he had a regular shooting gallery going on and evicted him while throwing everything my friend owned in a dumpster as a biohazard. Naturally he lost his job. He got out of jail with nothing. Think of my friend the next time you bring an SW over to your own place for sex and be safe.

[QUOTE=JohnKat;3937933]Safe sex for mongers means never ever allowing a syringe and needle into your house. A close monger friend of mine had a girl OD at his place. Rather than the embarrassing or awkward situation I had envisioned, it totally destroyed his life. Because of the thirty something year age difference, the cops were convinced that he either supplied the drugs or knew who did. They put him in jail. His landlord thought that he had a regular shooting gallery going on and evicted him while throwing everything my friend owned in a dumpster as a biohazard. Naturally he lost his job. He got out of jail with nothing. Think of my friend the next time you bring an SW over to your own place for sex and be safe.[/QUOTE]That's keeping it real my friend. The secondary problem is you can tell them no using while they are there, they'll nod and agree, ask to use the bathroom and do it anyway. I now keep Narcan at both my place and in my car. It's a poor alternative to just not allowing it in the first place, but in a desperate situation it may save someone's ass.

HS.

[QUOTE=JohnKat;3937933]Think of my friend the next time you bring an SW over to your own place for sex and be safe.[/QUOTE]Having someone OD at your place might be the worst case. But I can imagine (never having been in the situation myself) that being in the presence of anyone who OD's regardless of where it is, could turn out to be very messy. In fact, having someone OD very shortly after you leave them, if there is any way to identify you were with them, would have the potential to turn out very badly.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3938165]That's keeping it real my friend. The secondary problem is you can tell them no using while they are there, they'll nod and agree, ask to use the bathroom and do it anyway. I now keep Narcan at both my place and in my car. It's a poor alternative to just not allowing it in the first place, but in a desperate situation it may save someone's ass.

HS.[/QUOTE]Not the name I know her by but she used to come over a lot and in the bathroom quite awhile and I'd ask what takes so long and if she was shooting up in there, she said she was prepping up but never looked different LOL then she forgot her mixing cap and I left it so she would know I know, then I started going to her place once she moved from that shit hole on chambers st and me her and her twin would watch dexter or something but her sisters car was there but not her, all of a sudden I hear her yell up and to come quickly she then comes running back up and I ask what's going on, well her best friend was shooting up in the basement with her sister and OD so they gave him multiple narcon to revive him, a week later he OD and died at his house, now I feel bad he died but couldn't imagine if he would have died in there basement while I was there, that shit freaked me out.

I m not sure how to get that, last I heard its about 130 bucks. And if I had it, it would have to be accessable and some ***** would probably steal it!

Had one utr staying with me for awhile, she had her bf and sister here playing cards in basement and told me her bf was having a seizure and he drove a truck so couldn't have it.

On his record. Sister disappeared, got her bf to wake up, he said his meds for seizures did something to him. Well she ended up in jail, and another gal told me allbout him oding in my basement. Evidently the sis took all the drugs left and got a ride from someone so in case the paramedics were called, there wouldn't be any drugs in the house. Live and learn.

The one that told me all about it was on that shit too, but would admit it. I asked her one day why, she said she liked it /1 h then c. One day out of the blue, she called and said she had to get off this stuff and would I help her when she went to rehab. I said yes. Well she got busted before she could get into rehab and went thru rehab in co. She talked about having to stay away from her old friends andwanted to stay with me when she got out. A few weeks before she got out I could see her attitude change. She was out less than 24 hrs and back with her old friends getting all fucked up. I guess she had god intentions of getting off, but I've been told when they get close to getting released, they start thinking about getting high and that's what usually happens! Out of a lot of girls on that shit, and I know many, I have seen only two get out of the habit and stay out of it! Well at least so far. Some are right, they will go into the bathroom and use before doing anything, I don't know what I'd do if they od in the house, I know I would call the paramedics, and with the sting on my record, the cops are not dumb, but I don't use, Not sure what would happen! Guess Ill have to talk to a cop friend of my neighbors when she's around and ask. Another your I knew was using and stayed with me on and off. She found out she was pg by her ass bf. He was in jail. I got her to a obgyn who sent her to a high rist obgyn closer to home. Se put her on Subutex 3 day supply at a time. She was doing great til her friend got her on crack. She missed doc appts her doc called me, wanting to know what was going on. I told her exactly what was going on. She said for her to call she doesn't judge. Well she ended up in county in WI somewhere and they only did the shit that start with a "M" they took her every day til the baby was born, then she was done cold turkey while the baby stayed in the hosp til they got her weened off the shit. She got out, her and BD don't have custody of the baby. I had surgery and she stopped by on night, and before I could hide my norcos, she snagged them. Told her if I ever seen her again I'd get the cops on her. Never heard from her again, and I'm glad! Can't stay away from users in this hobby as most are users. I know if they sot up in the house, just dfk them and you can taste the shit. Just hope things don't ever go south on me again. Its a crap shoot.

[QUOTE=JohnKat;3937933]Safe sex for mongers means never ever allowing a syringe and needle into your house. A close monger friend of mine had a girl OD at his place. Rather than the embarrassing or awkward situation I had envisioned, it totally destroyed his life. Because of the thirty something year age difference, the cops were convinced that he either supplied the drugs or knew who did. They put him in jail. His landlord thought that he had a regular shooting gallery going on and evicted him while throwing everything my friend owned in a dumpster as a biohazard. Naturally he lost his job. He got out of jail with nothing. Think of my friend the next time you bring an SW over to your own place for sex and be safe.[/QUOTE]I've had them commit crimes on the drive over. When you are getting two or three visits from the police a year, you know something you are doing is wrong. Then spending 3 min in the bathroom washing their hands. Found a few biohazards. Usually when they left so fast to see their dealer they left their purse in the house. Purse full of needles and condoms. Pipes and such.

[QUOTE=Terry7168;3938442]I m not sure how to get that, last I heard its about 130 bucks. And if I had it, it would have to be accessable and some ***** would probably steal it!

Had one utr staying with me for awhile, she had her bf and sister here playing cards in basement and told me her bf was having a seizure and he drove a truck so couldn't have it.

On his record. Sister disappeared, got her bf to wake up, he said his meds for seizures did something to him. Well she ended up in jail, and another gal told me allbout him oding in my basement. Evidently the sis took all the drugs left and got a ride from someone so in case the paramedics were called, there wouldn't be any drugs in the house. Live and learn.

The one that told me all about it was on that shit too, but would admit it. I asked her one day why, she said she liked it /1 h then c. One day out of the blue, she called and said she had to get off this stuff and would I help her when she went to rehab. I said yes. Well she got busted before she could get into rehab and went thru rehab in co. She talked about having to stay away from her old friends andwanted to stay with me when she got out. A few weeks before she got out I could see her attitude change. She was out less than 24 hrs and back with her old friends getting all fucked up. I guess she had god intentions of getting off, but I've been told when they get close to getting released, they start thinking about getting high and that's what usually happens! Out of a lot of girls on that shit, and I know many, I have seen only two get out of the habit and stay out of it! Well at least so far. Some are right, they will go into the bathroom and use before doing anything, I don't know what I'd do if they od in the house, I know I would call the paramedics, and with the sting on my record, the cops are not dumb, but I don't use, Not sure what would happen! Guess Ill have to talk to a cop friend of my neighbors when she's around and ask. Another your I knew was using and stayed with me on and off. She found out she was pg by her ass bf. He was in jail. I got her to a obgyn who sent her to a high rist obgyn closer to home. Se put her on Subutex 3 day supply at a time. She was doing great til her friend got her on crack. She missed doc appts her doc called me, wanting to know what was going on. I told her exactly what was going on. She said for her to call she doesn't judge. Well she ended up in county in WI somewhere and they only did the shit that start with a "M" they took her every day til the baby was born, then she was done cold turkey while the baby stayed in the hosp til they got her weened off the shit. She got out, her and BD don't have custody of the baby. I had surgery and she stopped by on night, and before I could hide my norcos, she snagged them. Told her if I ever seen her again I'd get the cops on her. Never heard from her again, and I'm glad! Can't stay away from users in this hobby as most are users. I know if they sot up in the house, just dfk them and you can taste the shit. Just hope things don't ever go south on me again. Its a crap shoot.[/QUOTE]M= Methadone, that's some serious shit a man made drink to legally get high they go drink at a clinic and leave, an old school chum from back in the day left his M out a few years ago and his wife got to it OD and died, he got 5 years in prison because its suppose to be locked in a box if they are allowed to take there weekend dose home.

As far as I know, they make you take it there, she was locked up so they had to take her there dailey to get it.

As far as she went, they didn't care, but the baby had to have it and the jail wasn't going to be sued if she lost the baby for not getting what it needed.

Yeah methadone I couldn't think of what it was called thanks.

I hear you can get narcan for free at the needle exchange. I understand one has to watch a video on how to use it. Have a girl get one for you. I did.

Yes, at the place on 35th & Wisc.

[QUOTE=AltereEgo;3938569]I hear you can get narcan for free at the needle exchange. I understand one has to watch a video on how to use it. Have a girl get one for you. I did.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Griswold99;3938676]Yes, at the place on 35th & Wisc.[/QUOTE]Google (Your community) Opioid Meeting or Milwaukee Opioid Meeting or opioid community awareness. There are many groups that hold frequent educational meetings that offer free Narcon and training.

HS.

So me and her were texting and she tells me some of you losers that see her or have her number are coping and sending my posts to her, so much for trying to hide the site LOL you guys know who you are and should be banned from here as far as I'm concerned, I have a pretty good idea of who one of you are it's not hard to figure out, my response to her was what I post is the truth and she knows it and I don't care what you suck ups or she thinks it's my choice to post about my experiences.

[QUOTE=EddiesPickle;3940230]So me and her were texting and she tells me some of you losers that see her or have her number are coping and sending my posts to her, so much for trying to hide the site LOL you guys know who you are and should be banned from here as far as I'm concerned, I have a pretty good idea of who one of you are it's not hard to figure out, my response to her was what I post is the truth and she knows it and I don't care what you suck ups or she thinks it's my choice to post about my experiences.[/QUOTE]Pathetic losers who think they will win points from her. They will get what they deserve.

[QUOTE=EddiesPickle;3940230]So me and her were texting and she tells me some of you losers that see her or have her number are coping and sending my posts to her, so much for trying to hide the site LOL you guys know who you are and should be banned from here as far as I'm concerned, I have a pretty good idea of who one of you are it's not hard to figure out, my response to her was what I post is the truth and she knows it and I don't care what you suck ups or she thinks it's my choice to post about my experiences.[/QUOTE]Screenshotting and sending actual posts to curry favor is lame as hell, but trying to "hide" the site is never going to happen. It's not on the dark web, providers have their own section to advertise, you don't even need an account to read reviews and when searching for a particular provider this site routinely pops up.

If you're not going to see her again, who cares if she knows you posted a bad or mediocre review? The only downside I can see is perhaps she tells other providers since so many know each other. If that's the case or if you might see her again in a pinch create a second account for those types of reviews. Make the review generic enough that the provider can't pin it down to one specific visit.

Again, guys that use the site to bargain a better price or curry favor are assholes, but it's never going to change, so do what you need to do to cover yourself.

HS.

[QUOTE=EddiesPickle;3940230]So me and her were texting and she tells me some of you losers that see her or have her number are coping and sending my posts to her, so much for trying to hide the site LOL you guys know who you are and should be banned from here as far as I'm concerned, I have a pretty good idea of who one of you are it's not hard to figure out, my response to her was what I post is the truth and she knows it and I don't care what you suck ups or she thinks it's my choice to post about my experiences.[/QUOTE]Its not hard to figure out who tells their fav provider that someone gave them a bad review, esp when they call you out in a post.

I remember one provider that was very popular. I had a monger pm me many times about her, found out my plans with her and made sure it didn't happen.

Then when she didn't do what he wanted her too after that, put a bad review on her. She texted me all pissed off over his bad review of her. I asked her a few.

Questions to see if he was right or not. Ended up most of what he said was true over time, but not all of it. Well she was so pissed at him she called him and.

Tore him a new asshole, brought up me in the conversation and I got accused of ratting him out. She was venting to me over what she already knew. I do not pm personal stuff.

About A gal I am seeing any more. Some guys get too jealous. Hell to be honest, I've seen some post that make me jealous, but I'm not in a position that I can afford to.

See some of these providers right now. No clue if they will still be around when I can afford them. Just the way it is! I try to treat the girls well. Hoping they will.

Treat me well back, some do some don't. The ones that do event get tired of me or me them. Time to move on. I don't give them a bad review after all that unless.

They rip me off. I don't go for that ripping me off shit at all.