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Was strolling the East Livingston and Main Street area early this morning and came across Danielle, a nice looking WSW that was very proficient. While there were plenty to pick from in all shapes and sizes, she seemed less anxious than all the rest. Gave a great BBBJCIM and not once did she talk roses. While she was doing the deed she took off her clothes and made herself very 'accessible'.
She had an excellent place to go to and will definitely look for her in the future. She did say that LEO has been pretty active on the Eastside since the Bottoms/Hilltop massacre and that many of the girls from the westside were not strolling the eastside.
Unfortunately she didn't have digits but did say she was out regularly in that area.
Happy Hunting...
P.S. There were at least 10 ladies out this morning in that area. Of the 10 that I saw, 9 were definitely acceptable. Of the ten, 7 were BSW and 3 were WSW. I had been on the westside earlier in the evening and didn't see squat except for LEO and obvious locals just out walking around.
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LE active
I don't patronize SW, but I watch TV.
Channel 6 says LE have been busting and replacing with decoys- past few days.
Channel 6 mentioned LE are taking their Roxannes and Johns to Rhodes Park to transfer them to the paddy wagon. Although I have been reading enough to know you all are very careful and know the best approach, but you might want to check out Rhodes Park (or nearby park) to see if LE are active before approaching a 'new/ different' SW.
Great time to take some pics of 'new' or never seen before SW and post them here- so people can identify the 'new' SW that people should be wary of.
PS the news mentioned something to the effect that the arrests are a lost cause, no matter what most woman go back to work, etc.
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[QUOTE=Whoah28]I don't patronize SW, but I watch TV.
Channel 6 says LE have been busting and replacing with decoys- past few days.
Channel 6 mentioned LE are taking their Roxannes and Johns to Rhodes Park to transfer them to the paddy wagon. Although I have been reading enough to know you all are very careful and know the best approach, but you might want to check out Rhodes Park (or nearby park) to see if LE are active before approaching a 'new/ different' SW.
Great time to take some pics of 'new' or never seen before SW and post them here- so people can identify the 'new' SW that people should be wary of.
PS the news mentioned something to the effect that the arrests are a lost cause, no matter what most woman go back to work, etc.[/QUOTE]
Ha - I knew I had a feeling about that blonde on Broad yesterday I reported on. Something just told me it was not right.
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Yea, I was watching the news last night and they had a sting going on using female and male decoys arresting over 60 people in total.
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Story on the Bust
[url]http://www.wbns10tv.com/?sec=&story=sites/10tv/content/pool/200708/718565283.html[/url]
Wow - this in on 10tv - the Combined totals for 3 days was 69 people busted according to the video. They did it Monday, Tuesday and Wed. The video shows Rhoades park for sure. They also show briefly the Sunoco area on Sully.
If the West Side was dry before - it most certainly is now.
COLUMBUS, Ohio - Officers with the Columbus police vice squad said they came close to breaking a record on Wednesday after making more than 30 arrests on the city's west side.
The arrests were made in an effort to stop men and women from soliciting sex on city streets, 10TV's Angela An reported.
During the three-day undercover operation, police said 69 men and women were arrested in the neighborhood near Broad Street and Central Avenue.
The operation began on Monday when, according to police, 17 men and women were arrested for soliciting and prostitution. On Tuesday, 19 more arrests were made, An reported.
On Wednesday, 33 people were taken into custody, police said. According to vice officers, the record for number of arrests in one day is 34.
During the operation, it wasn't just prostitutes being arrested, but also the men who come to find them. Most police refer to them as 'Johns,' An reported.
Two undercover police officers who pose as prostitutes spoke with 10TV and said the disease and health issues that surround prostitution make it a much bigger problem than most people give it credit for.
"They call it a victimless crime, but it's not," one of the officers said. "You're taking it home to your wife and kids and families and anyone else who knows you."
An undercover Columbus police sergeant said there isn't really a demographic of people that they see more often when dealing with prostitution. The people arrested in the past three days ranged from 23 to 76, and were arrested as early as 6 a.m., An reported.
"Some are unemployed, retired, old people and young people," the sergeant said. "So I don't think you can put a demographic on who we get as much as it really affects all of society."
Police acknowledge that the age-old problem of prostitution never seems to go away, but they said efforts must be made or it could overtake neighborhoods.
Stay with 10TV News and refresh 10TV.com for additional information.
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[QUOTE=Broad St Guy][url]http://www.wbns10tv.com/?sec=&story=sites/10tv/content/pool/200708/718565283.html[/url]
Wow - this in on 10tv - the Combined totals for 3 days was 69 people busted according to the video. They did it Monday, Tuesday and Wed. The video shows Rhoades park for sure. They also show briefly the Sunoco area on Sully.
If the West Side was dry before - it most certainly is now.
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Hey, be careful out there. It said in the news story that the cops are going to be doing this the rest of the week but not saying where they will be doing it. Keep your eyes open for anything unusual. If you see something, report it on here to save someone some possible heartache.
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Busts
Broad St Guy
Wow, talk about good intuition. There were several busted at Chi/Broad on Wed.
I did a check on the Public Access site. Most of the busts on Monday happened on the eastside around Main/Hampton & Main/Elizabeth....and a couple up north Lakeview/Cleveland.
I imagine more westside arrests will be posted soon.
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[QUOTE=ILuvIt]Broad St Guy
Wow, talk about good intuition. There were several busted at Chi/Broad on Wed.
I did a check on the Public Access site. Most of the busts on Monday happened on the eastside around Main/Hampton & Main/Elizabeth....and a couple up north Lakeview/Cleveland.
I imagine more westside arrests will be posted soon.[/QUOTE]
Yeah - while she look really good and was tempting - there were several red flags for me. She just did not fit in. I am not saying an experienced monger can not be caught - but an experienced monger would have passed this one by I would think. I don't want to go into the details that gave it away, but something about her made me keep on trucking. Also I was on my way somewhere and was not really looking to get my monger on. Luck only goes so far. Always better to follow gut feelings and use the right head for thinking.
I think from the video, it is clear what to watch for in talking to SW. Also I would lay odds those taped convesations of the decoy occured with the decoy on the drivers side window. Huge red flag. Drive away. If the girl won't get in the car, drive and chat for awhile. Forget it.
Did you see any bust on the site in the Sullivant area? Curious as the news video shows the Sunoco on Sully.
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BSG,
Good looking out! I also was in the Bottoms yesterday & thought a brunette looked to good to be out there. I didn't pull up to her, due to fear that she was a LE decoy. Glad I didn't take the plunge yesterday morning.
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Rolling The Strolls
Went west on Main saw two just west of Alum creek, turned south on Parsons didn't see anything across Greenlawn to Mound, left on Souder nothing in the Sulli-Souder area. Across Town to Broad to Wilson. Saw 2 WSW around Odgen and Broad one the typical skank that hangs in the area,the other a new face. Around the block and she was gone . Mid 30'ish and blond hair, Rolled east on Broad through downtown up Cleveland to almost Morse. Saw one possible HSW and a couple run down BSW's ,around 22 ed and Cleveland.
Did see alot of LEO out one cruising down Parsons in a unmarked chevy impala silver in color with the window divider behind the front seat. A few hanging around the church parking lot across from Rhodes Park.
Also did see a SW about the 670 and 5 th ave stop light across from Wendy's but it may have been a cross dressing guy. Looked a little too rough to be a girl.
Be careful, if it don't feel right it's porbably not right. I'll take pics next time
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Hot, hot HOT!
Boy, it's sure been hot lately. I have a friend who happened to be traveling through the west side this afternoon. He said it was quite a site on Sully: A scantily dressed but clean looking white girl with her back to the storefront, talking to a black man while she watched the traffic. A good looking blonde on a bike with a purse, traveling the streets and the alleys a eyeing cars while cruisers and unmarked SUVs circled. Spotters sitting on steps talking into hidden mics. I guess there ARE some strange people out there!
My friend likes to cruise and said he's been meeting a lot of new friends in totally new places lately, just by keeping his eyes open. He likes to go far west and south, but also said he has met several friends north, but not real far north.
Interesting.
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[QUOTE=Het0015]I may be wrong but that is the reason why, when abused women drops her charges against her abusive pimp/boyfriend (happens all the time); the State takes it up so the abusive pimp/boyfriend still remains in trouble, at least that I've heard. However considering what ILuvIt described above, the State perhaps isn't taking up such abuse cases very often.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/07/opinion/07iyengar.html?_r=1&n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fContributors&oref=slogin[/url]
August 7, 2007
Op-Ed Contributor
The Protection Battered Spouses Don’t Need
By RADHA IYENGAR
Cambridge, Mass.
TWO decades ago, in an effort to curb domestic violence, states began passing “mandatory arrest” laws. Police officers responding to a call for help would no longer need to determine whether one person was truly violent or out of control; every time someone reported abuse, the police would simply be required to make an arrest.
It seemed like a good tactic — at least to people who work with victims of domestic violence. (Police officers tended to be less enthusiastic, because they prefer to make arrests at their own discretion.) Arrests would immediately stop the violence and might discourage abusers from further acts of abuse.
But 20 years later, it seems the mandatory arrest laws are having an unintended, deadly side effect. The number of murders committed by intimate partners is now significantly higher in states with mandatory arrest laws than it is in other states.
Support for the laws began in 1984, after a federal district court in Connecticut ruled that the police had inadequately protected a woman whose husband had brutally assaulted her. State lawmakers decided they needed more control over how local police departments enforced restraining orders against abusers and intervened in incidents of violence. One way to get that control was to dictate how the police should respond in each case.
A small but influential study of police responses to domestic violence calls, conducted by criminologists in Minnesota in the early 1980s, found that arrests were the most effective strategy for reducing future violence. Now, 22 states and the District of Columbia have laws that mandate or at least strongly recommend that everyone accused of domestic abuse be arrested.
What the laws did not take into account was that eventually the victims of violence would come to realize that if they called the police, their abuser would certainly be arrested. And over the years, it turns out, that realization seems to have led victims to contact the police less. [...]
Full: <http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/07/opinion/07iyengar.html?_r=1&n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fContributors&oref=slogin>
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[QUOTE=Broad St Guy][url]http://www.wbns10tv.com/?sec=&story=sites/10tv/content/pool/200708/718565283.html[/url]
Wow - this in on 10tv - the Combined totals for 3 days was 69 people busted according to the video. They did it Monday, Tuesday and Wed. The video shows Rhoades park for sure. They also show briefly the Sunoco area on Sully.
If the West Side was dry before - it most certainly is now.
COLUMBUS, Ohio - Officers with the Columbus police vice squad said they came close to breaking a record on Wednesday after making more than 30 arrests on the city's west side.
The arrests were made in an effort to stop men and women from soliciting sex on city streets, 10TV's Angela An reported.
During the three-day undercover operation, police said 69 men and women were arrested in the neighborhood near Broad Street and Central Avenue.
The operation began on Monday when, according to police, 17 men and women were arrested for soliciting and prostitution. On Tuesday, 19 more arrests were made, An reported.
On Wednesday, 33 people were taken into custody, police said. According to vice officers, the record for number of arrests in one day is 34.
During the operation, it wasn't just prostitutes being arrested, but also the men who come to find them. Most police refer to them as 'Johns,' An reported.
Two undercover police officers who pose as prostitutes spoke with 10TV and said the disease and health issues that surround prostitution make it a much bigger problem than most people give it credit for.
"They call it a victimless crime, but it's not," one of the officers said. "You're taking it home to your wife and kids and families and anyone else who knows you."
An undercover Columbus police sergeant said there isn't really a demographic of people that they see more often when dealing with prostitution. The people arrested in the past three days ranged from 23 to 76, and were arrested as early as 6 a.m., An reported.
"Some are unemployed, retired, old people and young people," the sergeant said. "So I don't think you can put a demographic on who we get as much as it really affects all of society."
Police acknowledge that the age-old problem of prostitution never seems to go away, but they said efforts must be made or it could overtake neighborhoods.
Stay with 10TV News and refresh 10TV.com for additional information.[/QUOTE]When, when, when, WHEN will these jackasses realise that all of the problems they claim for prostitution are a direct result of the activity being illegal, I challange both of these officers to go to Nevada and find a disease problem at the legal brothels, such as the Moonlight Bunny Ranch. As long as it's completely illegal, it will be driven underground with no oversight, and there will be problems.
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That is exactly right!
[QUOTE=Seadog]When, when, when, WHEN will these jackasses realise that all of the problems they claim for prostitution are a direct result of the activity being illegal, I challange both of these officers to go to Nevada and find a disease problem at the legal brothels, such as the Moonlight Bunny Ranch. As long as it's completely illegal, it will be driven underground with no oversight, and there will be problems.[/QUOTE]
Not only that. Also when a SW with police records for prostitution does try to make money the legal way, like at a regular everyday job; her chances of getting hired is drastically reduced. The reality is that the LE are creating problems where previously NONE existed before. I wish that the laws and the LE will just simply protect home, businesses, and people from REAL criminals. If the LE didn't put so much of their resources into fighting a losing battle against prostitution and drugs, the reality is that they would be far more effective in law enforcement of reasonable laws that can actually be enforced and prosecution of identity theft thieves, get rich quick scams that don't work, labor violations, and a whole lot more that would be beyond the scope of this board. Also, the LE created more crime problems than before when you consider that many of the murders are drug related as well. If one could buy a pack of pot at a gas station or a small pouch of cocaine for much less than what one can get from an illegal drug dealer and if it had been that way all along; we would have had fewer murders than what the reality is. Secondly, the bad neighborhoods that exists today would have been far better than it actually is.
So, who's on a moral higher ground here. The SWs or the LE's? You have to consider that there is a difference between earning a living and stealing a living. The SWs are simply trying to earn a living and they are providing true value. It does seem to me that since the ways the laws are written and how the LE goes about to enforce it as it really is has created more crimes needlessly, therefore in some cases certain LE's and politicians are stealing a living so who are actually REAL criminals without taking into account of the wordings of criminal laws? The LE's are getting to be more and more like the Soviet KGBs and Hitler's Gestapos every day.
When it comes to drugs and prostitution laws that can't be wholefully enforced anyway, the LE really tries to get their hands into everything; kind of like how some 2 year olds get into everything so it looks to me that they are acting like a bunch of kids with authoritive powers blessed by a corrupt school principal to cause more needless harm.
This thing about the war on drugs and prostitution is government propaganda for political gain without regard to other more important problems that needs to be dealt with.
Stay Safe
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Good Point
[QUOTE=Hejova][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/07/opinion/07iyengar.html?_r=1&n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fContributors&oref=slogin[/url]
August 7, 2007
Op-Ed Contributor
The Protection Battered Spouses Don’t Need
By RADHA IYENGAR
Cambridge, Mass.
TWO decades ago, in an effort to curb domestic violence, states began passing “mandatory arrest” laws. Police officers responding to a call for help would no longer need to determine whether one person was truly violent or out of control; every time someone reported abuse, the police would simply be required to make an arrest.
It seemed like a good tactic — at least to people who work with victims of domestic violence. (Police officers tended to be less enthusiastic, because they prefer to make arrests at their own discretion.) Arrests would immediately stop the violence and might discourage abusers from further acts of abuse.
But 20 years later, it seems the mandatory arrest laws are having an unintended, deadly side effect. The number of murders committed by intimate partners is now significantly higher in states with mandatory arrest laws than it is in other states.
Support for the laws began in 1984, after a federal district court in Connecticut ruled that the police had inadequately protected a woman whose husband had brutally assaulted her. State lawmakers decided they needed more control over how local police departments enforced restraining orders against abusers and intervened in incidents of violence. One way to get that control was to dictate how the police should respond in each case.
A small but influential study of police responses to domestic violence calls, conducted by criminologists in Minnesota in the early 1980s, found that arrests were the most effective strategy for reducing future violence. Now, 22 states and the District of Columbia have laws that mandate or at least strongly recommend that everyone accused of domestic abuse be arrested.
What the laws did not take into account was that eventually the victims of violence would come to realize that if they called the police, their abuser would certainly be arrested. And over the years, it turns out, that realization seems to have led victims to contact the police less. [...]
Full: <http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/07/opinion/07iyengar.html?_r=1&n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fContributors&oref=slogin>[/QUOTE]
If the LEs can decide on their discretion based on their experience from the past of possible ramification of the arrest, it's much easier to make peace.
In the far past years ago before the so-called drug problems and all, even though prostitution in the US was still illegal; some LEs pretty much decided whether to arrest based on their discretion rather than the mind set of "if she broke the law arrest her" mentality. Therefore the quiet and discreet prostitute usually escaped the wrath of the LE even though he knew about her; while on the other hand the more dangerous SWs were usually arrested. This way of prostitution law enforcement of the past at least had helped maintained the harmony of the streets and the area, though still far from perfect. It was very unlike the way the laws are enforced today that in reality wrecks the harmony of the streets and the area.
While Hejova's report is off topic of what this board is about, I decided to use it to compare to the realities of prostitution law enforcement.
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