You might be right. I'll check it out next week and report.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Damn, I didn't know there WAS a Pacific Massage! Dude, it's calling your name.... TOFTT! ;)[/QUOTE]
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You might be right. I'll check it out next week and report.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Damn, I didn't know there WAS a Pacific Massage! Dude, it's calling your name.... TOFTT! ;)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Asianplvr]Anyone have any dreams at Pacific Massage on 44th?[/QUOTE]
Where the heck is that?
I am on 44th probably 2-3x a week and can't say I ever saw it.
I googled it and there are 2 in GR. The one on 44th is just past Kalamazoo going East. There is also a review by a "naughtySteve" that is somehow suggestive without saying anything. Never have done the massage thing, I think that my first $200 layout will be with someone like Trish from Lansing where I have a good expectation of what I will get.
[QUOTE=Monger01]Where the heck is that?
I am on 44th probably 2-3x a week and can't say I ever saw it.[/QUOTE]
Just east of Breton.
Ok fellow mongers. I checked out Pacific today. There is a hair salon on the main floor with the Pacific massage below. (Ranch style business) You pull around back to park and go inside. Seems most the girls are Vietnamese. I had Tammy. She's Vietnamese/white mix. I'd say 40's. Rates are 40/hh, 60. Hr.
Tammy showed me to my room, asked if I wanted shower, which I did. Place is clean. Tammy friendly. Tammy came in room after my shower and gave me one of the best massages I've had. Kinda funny too. I wasn't there for the actual massage, but enjoyed it. She never mentioned once about paying. Or tips. No upsell at all. I actually gave her the 1. Half way into the massage. That's.6 for/hr plus.4 tip. I wasn't sure what to expect since there's no mention here on the site. 10 minutes in I thought I'd feel her legs and get a response. Very responsive, matter of fact, my massage got more erotic. So, I keep pushing the situation. She rubbed my little guy and I pointed to her lips. She responded with "no cum inside". Of course I agreed. Got BBBJ. All the time, my fingers were allowed to roam without restrictions. She even took my hand and put lubricant on it. I thought to myself, I might as well go for broke. I asked about FS and she went with it. Alittle hesitant as she looked at the door, but nonetheless, she undressed completely for me. She wouldn't do cowgirl but would mish. She got a bit nervous (looking at the door) so we went back to BBBJTC. She didn't want the load in mouth and I oblaqued. Overall. Good experience. Would recommend, especially for the price. I didn't see any other girls while I was there other than a white girl at the front desk.
I have a feeling that a massage with BBBJ would be rate plus very small tip.
I included a bad pic of the room. Room was clean and the usual setup.
[QUOTE=Gordo68] There is also a review by a "naughtySteve" that is somehow suggestive without saying anything.[/QUOTE]Yea. I saw it too. He mentions some names. Also owner name, which Tammy verified. Also, Tammy mentioned the one in Cascade. Btw. Tammy has been there (44th St.) 10 months.
Nice report, thanks! Good prices, too.
[QUOTE=Asianplvr]Ok fellow mongers. I checked out Pacific today. [/QUOTE]
NP! Glad to TOFTT
Be safe.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Nice report, thanks! Good prices, too.[/QUOTE]
So what was your total cash outlay with the full service?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Asianplvr]Ok fellow mongers. I checked out Pacific today. There is a hair salon on the main floor with the Pacific massage below. (Ranch style business) You pull around back to park and go inside. Seems most the girls are Vietnamese. I had Tammy. She's Vietnamese/white mix. I'd say 40's. Rates are 40/hh, 60. Hr.
Tammy showed me to my room, asked if I wanted shower, which I did. Place is clean. Tammy friendly. Tammy came in room after my shower and gave me one of the best massages I've had. Kinda funny too. I wasn't there for the actual massage, but enjoyed it. She never mentioned once about paying. Or tips. No upsell at all. I actually gave her the 1. Half way into the massage. That's.6 for/hr plus.4 tip. I wasn't sure what to expect since there's no mention here on the site. 10 minutes in I thought I'd feel her legs and get a response. Very responsive, matter of fact, my massage got more erotic. So, I keep pushing the situation. She rubbed my little guy and I pointed to her lips. She responded with "no cum inside". Of course I agreed. Got BBBJ. All the time, my fingers were allowed to roam without restrictions. She even took my hand and put lubricant on it. I thought to myself, I might as well go for broke. I asked about FS and she went with it. Alittle hesitant as she looked at the door, but nonetheless, she undressed completely for me. She wouldn't do cowgirl but would mish. She got a bit nervous (looking at the door) so we went back to BBBJTC. She didn't want the load in mouth and I oblaqued. Overall. Good experience. Would recommend, especially for the price. I didn't see any other girls while I was there other than a white girl at the front desk.
I have a feeling that a massage with BBBJ would be rate plus very small tip.
I included a bad pic of the room. Room was clean and the usual setup.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Harmonic]So what was your total cash outlay with the full service?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Provider: Tammy
"That's.6 for/hr plus.4 tip."
Total = 1.
Today I made a return trip to Pacific Massage and saw "Cat". She's a Thai 36 yo ,cute, very petite (size 0 or smaller). I forgot to mention in an earlier report that they like to make an appointment time with the girl of your choice. Again, I get there, Cat shows me to the room and NO mention of money at all. I take the usual shower and are greeted back at my room. Cat is very nice, good conversation, alittle hard to understand at times, but I did ok. After about 20 minutes on my stomach I offered her the same 1. I did last visit with Tammy and sat it on the chair for her. Massage was not as good as Tammy as she concentrated to much in one spot at a time. Also, she stayed at the far end of the table making it impossible to touch her and get a response. On the flip side, the massage concentrated around my business, but she just wouldn't touch it. I got alittle impatient waiting for more so I started to rub her back to get a reponse. As my hands moved around front side to get a feel of her A size girls, she pulled her arm into my hand as to say stop. I continued to rub where I could, no clothing came off,not even bra. Couldn't get anywhere with the fingers as I did with Tammy. Closing in on the one hour appointment she asked if I wanted a hot towel or shower. Wow I thought to myself, no happy ending, the money is still on the chair (she didn't even look at it), this is not like last trip. I thought "what the heck" I grabbed down to her hand and gently moved it over to try and get some release. YES! She lotioned up and gave me a great release. WHEW! During this time, I was able to feel her girls under the bra :)
Overall, she's cute, I'd give a 7, petite which I like, Asian which I love, but not fs(at least not this trip).In all fairness, I will say the Vietnamese owner (Liet,I think he said) was there and that might have something to do with it.
There seems to be quite a few girls working two different shifts. Asian, Vietnamese, Spanish, American
We need more fellow mongers willing to TOFFT and report. Remember there is another location in Cascade also.
Something else I'd like to add: After Cat was done and left the room, the money still sat on the chair. I showered and came back, still the money was on the chair. Just seemed odd to me. She didn't come back to the room after I was dressed. I actually had to leave the room and give the money to her (up front where her boss is) as I left.
Provider: Cat
Type: Asian spinner
"That's.6 for/hr plus.4 tip."
Total = 1.
Service: HJ
Sounds as if there's plenty enough info; we need to try to keep a decent AMP open in West mich without attracting too much rash attention. good work fellows.
The funny thing regarding "keeping an AMP open" is that all this time Rainbow never seems to have any problems staying open, despite the fact that they've offered at least a partial if not a full menu all the time. Of course, they also often have older, unattractive chicks or bad service/attitude. But they must be doing something to foster their staying power with the powers that be.
[QUOTE=Bulls Eye]Sounds as if there's plenty enough info; we need to try to keep a decent AMP open in West mich without attracting too much rash attention. good work fellows.[/QUOTE]
I agree as well as Esquire Health Club on Division. I also think 1.4 for HE (half hour) is pretty steep, remember we can impact the cost since we're walking in with the mulla. in this economic time .8 seems quite resasonable, but of course i like to be a frequent flyer.
Realistically we have no control over their success with staying open. it hurt my heart when the one near 44th and division closed as i was getting fs for 1.2. Again the bottom line we know mongers are not the only ones reading this forum. I would love to crack the chinese apt. system here as i suspect they do exist in GR.
I'm headed to St.Martin Sat. where brothels are legal and striving and starving for my dollars so I'll have to check out Pacific later.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]The funny thing regarding "keeping an AMP open" is that all this time Rainbow never seems to have any problems staying open, despite the fact that they've offered at least a partial if not a full menu all the time. Of course, they also often have older, unattractive chicks or bad service/attitude. But they must be doing something to foster their staying power with the powers that be.[/QUOTE]
Any fellow mongers have any dreams lately about Pacific?
Play safe
Asianplvr, check your PMs. I PM'd you a few days back
Had another dream with Cat at Pacific on 44th. Paid.4/hh plus.3 tip. Got the same as last visit. I again got to touch the small perky girls but, no touching below. She's a small spinner type that I like (85 pounds) and I hoped multiple visits would bring advanced services.
Still no other reports here on the other girls. They also have a Cascade location. The times I've visited, payment is made after service with NO mention of rates or tips prior. IMHO, the service is worth the investment and the tipping is whatever you'd like with no pressure. Other MPs seem to establish an agreed predetermined amount before any extra's are served.
[QUOTE=Asianplvr]Had another dream with Cat at Pacific on 44th. Paid.4/hh plus.3 tip. Got the same as last visit. I again got to touch the small perky girls but, no touching below. She's a small spinner type that I like (85 pounds) and I hoped multiple visits would bring advanced services.
Still no other reports here on the other girls. They also have a Cascade location. The times I've visited, payment is made after service with NO mention of rates or tips prior. IMHO, the service is worth the investment and the tipping is whatever you'd like with no pressure. Other MPs seem to establish an agreed predetermined amount before any extra's are served.[/QUOTE]
HJ is still the most service so far?
no BJ?
As he wrote below, he had more with Tammy
[QUOTE=Monger01]HJ is still the most service so far?
no BJ?[/QUOTE]
After reading Asianplvr's experiences, I decided to give Pacific a try the other day. This was definitely a case of spontaneous reaction as I'd been planning to get a repeat or a first time with other women I've posted about lately. But I'm a sucker for AMPs, especially ones I haven't been to before.
I would up scheduling an after hours time with Tammy and headed from Lansing to GR. Went around the back and was let in by Tammy, friendly and smiling as advertised. She led me into a room with a basic massage table (with a thing to put your face in). She asked me if I wanted a shower; no TS, but just a basic shower, so I did. Floors are bare tile, which is kind of a drag. A small thing, but the whole room was kinda sterile. She was able to lower lights and music was better than many amps.
Details, details ... anyway, the important (negative) thing was that Tammy did not provide me with the same service she provided Asianplvr, despite doing what usually work as the right things and all the charm I could muster. When I made clear hints about using her mouth, she looked at me like I was from Jupiter and shook her head vigorously.
So what is it with you, Asianplvr? Are you a total stud or did you use some magic words that I didn't. ;)
Normally, given my penchant for getting the full monty GFE, I'm beginning my unhappy exit. But there were a handful of factors that kept me there. First of all, she was nice, sweet and already had me at full attention. 2nd, she was allowing some nice roaming and suckage during her manual service, so I was on complete sensory overload already.
Third, and maybe most important, I was - at least on a subconscious level - very aware that (as asianplvr had experienced) there had been absolutely no talk of dinero to that point. In fact, there was even a little paper sign up in my room to the effect that no financial transactions should take place there and any tips should be made up front.
So I'm already thinking, subconscious or not, that I have committed nothing beyond my basic 1 hr. massage $60. And if Asianplvr had only tipped .4 for all he got, then she wasn't going to get more than .2 for what I was getting. AND ... as our intrepid reporter indicated, she did give a nice massage. I don't think I'd call her professionally skilled, but it was a nice, gentle, thorough rubdown with oil and it felt good. AND, after the release, she kept up with the massage. I got the full hour's worth.
It was kinda odd, I mean I was almost out the door and money STILL hadn't been mentioned. Finally I pulled .8 out of my pocket and gave it to her.
For those of you who went to Mystic and saw Jennifer and others (they know them, no surprise), it was a lot like that - except no one's pining for the big tip. Tammy was also not dressed to the nines like Jennifer would be, but you kind of have the sense you're not in a true AMP.
Anyway, I hope that covers everything :) If you want at least a nice full massage and hand treatment from a nice gal for .8 and no hassle, go here!
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Details, details. Anyway, the important (negative) thing was that Tammy did not provide me with the same service she provided Asianplvr, despite doing what usually work as the right things and all the charm I could muster. When I made clear hints about using her mouth, she looked at me like I was from Jupiter and shook her head vigorously.[/QUOTE]hummm. Not sure why not FS. I know she was apprehensive and nervous for me but, my suggested words and actions won her over. I did get a couple "no's" but after being a bit consistent and a bit suggestive, she gave in. Like I said, FS was short, but she did do mish. Twisted, you're not from Jupiter, lmao.
I might have to try a repeat. If I decide, I'll report back.
Play safe
Cat has only given hj, no bj. I haven't given up yet.
She gave me her digits, I'll keep you posted.
[QUOTE=Monger01]HJ is still the most service so far?
no BJ?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]After reading Asianplvr's experiences, I decided to give Pacific a try the other day. This was definitely a case of spontaneous reaction as I'd been planning to get a repeat or a first time with other women I've posted about lately. But I'm a sucker for AMPs, especially ones I haven't been to before.
I would up scheduling an after hours time with Tammy and headed from Lansing to GR. Went around the back and was let in by Tammy, friendly and smiling as advertised. She led me into a room with a basic massage table (with a thing to put your face in). She asked me if I wanted a shower; no TS, but just a basic shower, so I did. Floors are bare tile, which is kind of a drag. A small thing, but the whole room was kinda sterile. She was able to lower lights and music was better than many amps.
Details, details ... anyway, the important (negative) thing was that Tammy did not provide me with the same service she provided Asianplvr, despite doing what usually work as the right things and all the charm I could muster. When I made clear hints about using her mouth, she looked at me like I was from Jupiter and shook her head vigorously.
So what is it with you, Asianplvr? Are you a total stud or did you use some magic words that I didn't. ;)
Normally, given my penchant for getting the full monty GFE, I'm beginning my unhappy exit. But there were a handful of factors that kept me there. First of all, she was nice, sweet and already had me at full attention. 2nd, she was allowing some nice roaming and suckage during her manual service, so I was on complete sensory overload already.
Third, and maybe most important, I was - at least on a subconscious level - very aware that (as asianplvr had experienced) there had been absolutely no talk of dinero to that point. In fact, there was even a little paper sign up in my room to the effect that no financial transactions should take place there and any tips should be made up front.
So I'm already thinking, subconscious or not, that I have committed nothing beyond my basic 1 hr. massage $60. And if Asianplvr had only tipped .4 for all he got, then she wasn't going to get more than .2 for what I was getting. AND ... as our intrepid reporter indicated, she did give a nice massage. I don't think I'd call her professionally skilled, but it was a nice, gentle, thorough rubdown with oil and it felt good. AND, after the release, she kept up with the massage. I got the full hour's worth.
It was kinda odd, I mean I was almost out the door and money STILL hadn't been mentioned. Finally I pulled .8 out of my pocket and gave it to her.
For those of you who went to Mystic and saw Jennifer and others (they know them, no surprise), it was a lot like that - except no one's pining for the big tip. Tammy was also not dressed to the nines like Jennifer would be, but you kind of have the sense you're not in a true AMP.
Anyway, I hope that covers everything :) If you want at least a nice full massage and hand treatment from a nice gal for .8 and no hassle, go here![/QUOTE]
Very nice place and nice people. What you got is more than most on a fisrt visit, they do want you back though so go back you luck may get better.
Maybe you're right, but it seems like our friend Asianplvr hit a homer on his first visit! ;)
[QUOTE=El Monger]Very nice place and nice people. What you got is more than most on a fisrt visit, they do want you back though so go back you luck may get better.[/QUOTE]
Thanks.
Sorry for my missing your FS report further down.
I swore I was up to date and didn't read down past the "new post" alerted posts. Apparently I logged in and out after your FS report.
Anyway I asked because I find AMPS way expensive for my wallet and I absolutely am not paying $.5 for a HJ.
No frigin way!
I have my own hand ty!
BJ or FS is all I think anyone should pay for. JMO
Thanks a lot for the info on Pacific. I been through GR for ages and didn't even realize the place was there!
[QUOTE=Asianplvr]Cat has only given hj, no bj. I haven't given up yet.
She gave me her digits, I'll keep you posted.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, understood ... I think the combo of a pretty good full hour massage, good plus HJ with gropage, for .8 is not bad, though ... that is, if the massage is worth it for you. As for me, I probably wouldn't make a trip back unless things change, but if I was passing through otherwise - which happens sometimes - I might stop on a whim. This is obviously a place where they have a vested interest is putting on a legit front, given their upstairs biz.
[QUOTE=Monger01]
Anyway I asked because I find AMPS way expensive for my wallet and I absolutely am not paying $.5 for a HJ.
[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind, you only tip what you feel. NO mention of money at any time, only rates given over phone. Of the three times I've been there, "I" tipped what "I" wanted with NO pressure. If you are there only for the extra services, you take your chances. I like the thrill of a new girl, a new place, and the hope of receiving extras. So far for me, Tammy delivered and Cat is very limited (HJ only). I really wanted fellow mongers to try other girls and the Cascade location to give us a better feel of what to expect.
BTW, I wouldn't want to pay 1.5 for a HJ either.(Well, maybe I would if she was drop dead gorgeous)
[QUOTE=Monger01]
Anyway I asked because I find AMPS way expensive for my wallet and I absolutely am not paying $.5 for a HJ.
No frigin way!
I have my own hand ty!
BJ or FS is all I think anyone should pay for. JMO[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]AMP scene very weak on west side of state, I'm afraid[/QUOTE]It's not exactly strong on the east side of the state, either.
Had a dream I tried Oasis (formerly Mystic) for the third time today, and have had a different girl each time. Today was the blond American others have mentioned, other two were Asian.
Very good massage, but nothing else despite asking. She said they're "not supposed to" and that "Mystic got in trouble for that". She didn't seem entirely convinced, but I tried politely in a couple different ways and she wasn't budging either. Very friendly and decent looking though.
Wondering if anyone else has had any luck there yet since the "new ownership". If so please let us know here, or PM me with details. I don't want to give up as I like the place, but I'm getting close after three times.
[QUOTE=Snafu2]It's not exactly strong on the east side of the state, either.[/QUOTE]
Well, FWIW, on the east side, you have some decent choices in Detroit (at least a few), a few in Flint, and a few in Bay City ... I'd say it's better than West side. But the best concentration would probably be I-94 from AA to K-zoo, with about 8-10 choices. Or if you combine Lansing-Jackson, that's 5-6 choices. Anyway, not trying to start a debate ...
I concur with TwistedBrother.
Flint is great you can get some at every AMP you find in Flint and your max dollars out of pocket will be about 160 to 180 total out the door for an hour.
Many for 150.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Well, FWIW, on the east side, you have some decent choices in Detroit (at least a few), a few in Flint, and a few in Bay City ... I'd say it's better than West side. But the best concentration would probably be I-94 from AA to K-zoo, with about 8-10 choices. Or if you combine Lansing-Jackson, that's 5-6 choices. Anyway, not trying to start a debate ...[/QUOTE]
Well, back to Pacific on 44th yesterday. I had a dream with Heidi. Asian woman in her 40's Id say. (owner said 25). About a 6 on the AMP scale. No mention of money so I wasn't obligated for anything but the hourly rate. Massage was excellent, but that's not all I was there for. Touching was definitely not on the menu. Friendly service, "ok" English skills. I couldn't charm my way into anything but a hj with this one, and that took ALOT of work for even that! She wanted me to stroke it while she massaged the surrounding area. Finally, she gave it her half heart felt massage but wouldn't finish the job. Very unsatisfying finish for my liking.
I'm beginning to wonder if I had beginners luck here. Tammy was a homerun, Cat a teaser, and Heidi a disappointment. Btw, I gave .80 for Heidi. Not sure why I tipped the extra .2
Update for Cat: I told earlier of getting Cats digits. My plan was to meet at her apartment for a more private massage. (She agreed to this with sealed lips) After 1 1/2 weeks of trying to contact her with no answer, I'm having second thoughts on this one too! Ahhhhhhh
Provider: Heidi
Type: Asian , 40's
Total = .8
Service: 1 hr massage (rate 9)
Partial HJ (rate 2)
Recommend: No
Decided to visit Pacific a couple nights ago. Called and scheduled an appointment with Tammy. Met her at 10 pm. This place is different than any other AMP and Tammy is different than any other Asian masseuse. To begin with this place is clean. There was actually a gentleman waiting in the front lobby at a desk to greet me. Its almost as if its a legitimate, or they are trying to be a legitmate spa. In regards to Tammy, she's nothing special. She was average looking with large B/C cups, and she was dressed in street clothes. She actually provided a nice massage with a h. R. And some gropping. She would have nothing to do with any other extras. I noticed a couple interesting things during my experience. During the massage Tammy talked with me about her husband and his job; thats just wierd. In addition, it seemed as if she had something in her mouth; she kept clicking something around. Unfortunately, I think it was actually her dentures moving around. Also as others have reported there was no talk of any money until I was almost out the door. I also noticed her son was quietly and politely waiting for his mom to finish "work". I saw him watching t. V. On a couch near the lobby area. This is just wierd. I think this type of treatment is routine for Tammy and she actually almost expects to provide this sort of service. Total damage was.4 +.2 tip and Tammy was very very thankful for that. At any other AMP, I would have been disappointed with Tammy as far as her looks are concerned. However, based on the economic value of this place, with the clean environment, and the legitimate massage with "stress" relief, I may certainly repeat here sometime. I just hope I can provide a better looking provider who offers the same service.
I had a dream that I stopped by Pacific (28th St location), on a Sunday around 6pm. No appt., but after a 15 min. wait, I was met by a 30's asian women (rate 6). I apologize, I forgot her name. She told me she works mostly in the 44th location
As all have stated, $ were never spoken. Started by a solo shower :(. Then an excellence massage. After a few hints by me (roaming hands), we discused options. She stated "No nude" and HJ. After 5 mins. of HJ, she agreed to top off and pants/panties down to thighs. Light touching and I achieved happiness. After, she continued the massage.
Time: 1 1/2 hrs
Massage: Excellence
Extras: HJ & partial nude
Rating: 7
$'s = .8
Place: Safe, Clean, and comfortable
$ = Fair Value for the time and service
Thanks for your report on 28th st. location. Let us know if you remember her name.
[QUOTE=Readyforfun123]I had a dream that I stopped by Pacific (28th St location), on a Sunday around 6pm. [/QUOTE]
Gentleman was Kiet (pronounced Kit). He is the owner. I have noticed that when he is there, my "extras" are fewer. As far as Tammy goes, I'm once again surprised. She went the extra mile with me and there has been two other reports here of her not offering the extras.
[QUOTE=Webo 1976]Decided to visit Pacific a couple nights ago. Called and scheduled an appointment with Tammy. There was actually a gentleman waiting in the front lobby at a desk to greet me. She would have nothing to do with any other extras. [/QUOTE]
I think I've cracked the code for fs at Pacific. Look for my post on Tuesday, keep our fingers crossed.
[QUOTE=Asianplvr]I think I've cracked the code for fs at Pacific. Look for my post on Tuesday, keep our fingers crossed.[/QUOTE]False alarm :( I've been working with "Cat" thru phone texting over the last few weeks. I thought we had all the issues worked out and my dream was about to come true. Last minute today she cancels saying "are you police?" so...I think I'll officially abort mission with her.