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[QUOTE=Chochem]I think your are 100% correct.
In economics, there is a concept called Demand Elasticity. When demand is inelastic, it means that changes in price don't affect demand much. When demand is elastic, it means that changes in price do affect demand considerably. My theory is that, at the low end of the price range, escort demand is elastic. There are hobbyists that will pay 100, but not 150 or who will pay 50 but not 100. This is why there is always demand at the street level.
On the other hand, I think that demand is more inelastic at the higher price levels. Most guys that are willing to spend 200 will still spend 250 for good service. Probably jjust about anyone that is willing to spend 300 will go to 350 for the right escort.
So, at the low end of the price range, providers make more money with lower rates, at least to a point. But, at the higher price levels, they may do better by keeping their rates where they have been.
I still think, however, that the best overall strategy may be to keep the rates high at most time, but also to offer occasional specials for repeat clients to ensure that they do not defect. I, of course, make this suggestion completely objectively and without regard to the effect that those occasional specials might have on my own wallet
You know, someone out there who is earning a masters degree in econmics should do a thesis on this. Think of how much fun the research would be! [/QUOTE]I don't know if I agree about 200 vs 250. Market participants make decisions at the margins.
There is perfect competition in this market with no barriers to entry and highly visible pricing, so in theory providers will always end up pricing to the market where marginal revenue equals marginal cost in order to maximize revenue. Right? That's 101.
So market demand always dictates pricing right? But it's especially true in markets like this. Each provider will adjust pricing in response to the market demand curve as they perceive it, in order to seek to maximize revenue. So discussing varying pricing strategies is interesting but ultimately I believe that they're less discretionary than you might think on a first take.
Another interesting factor is that there are almost no explicit costs; it's just opportunity cost and risk premiums. And somehow even hookers can understand that concept for the most part. So you'd think that if you're in the right place at the right time and a girl doesn't have any other prospects you could get a great deal on some quality tail.
Also there are widely varying labor-leisure decisions, depending on the lifestyles of the providers. That's why you see so much disparate pricing from seemingly similar girls. Even though it's obvious that they can all see each others' ads.
Keep in mind that providers are easily able to use first-degree price discrimination, which is a huge factor given how unbelievably high the wide variety of risks associated with providing these services are.
And those adjusted prices, extended to repeat customers are much less observable than advertised prices or even reported on prices. This also makes sense as the demand curve as well as the supply curve for repeats is different than for first time visits.
How many girls have $200 for a complete stranger who could be a psycho or a cop than $150 from a guy you've already seen 3 times before?
If you're interested in economic research on black markets, there's a guy out of the University of Chicago who studies them and has gotten some press recently given the implications of the recession. Google it. It's pretty cool.
OP
Op, You make a good point about first degree price discrimination. This, however, cannot be done in the advertising. While I have no direct experience, you may very well be correct that some escorts are providing discounts to their regulars while keeping the advertised prices high.
In general, I agree that the barriers to entry are low. However, I do not agree with you about perfect competition. Perfect competition assumes that the products available from the different suppliers are comparable. I think that we can all agree that there is a huge difference in the quality of escorts out there. The flip side of your $150 for a known customer versus $200 for a psycho is the hobbyist choosing $250 for a known GFE/PSE versus $150 for a overweight butterface that just lies there and complains when you take more than 5 minutes to finish.
I'm guessing that the economist you are talking about is the guy the wrote Freakonomics. I'll have to look that up. He's good reading.
[url]http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0413/020-economy-education-ideas-opinions.html[/url]
Yeah, I guess it is the freakonomics guy.
I think you've got me on differentiation in the marketplace; it just seems like there's so many sellers that they end up competing on price.
It's a good point you bring up about review boards and how they're reducing the amount of informational assymetry in the marketplace. I'm sure it used to be that it was like buying a car where they would just get you for whatever they thought they could get.
I think that it is just rude to say you get worse service from a lower priced girl that an overpriced escort. I have read this board and many others for years and there are many men who ***** about an escort but like the 5 star hotel or clean safe incall and the surrondings, fake boobs, lipo, designer clothes or make up whatever the girls spend money on then turn around in less than a month brag about banging a streetwalker in a no tell motel for $40 for a half hour. That just kills me. How can you go from one extreme to the other. You might as well go see a PSE then go home and talk sweet to the wife. To each his own. I have never gave less qaulity to one person or another because of the money involved. It is a connection (that is not always there) and how you treat them (if you treat her like a lady or a peice of ass). I have never fit the mold for a typical girl and I never will. Some actually care that you enjoy yourself. So use general concepts lightly. I know some of my friends better than other because we have spent more time together. Hell some of us have became friends and talk about our life. I would never say that all providers are the same and I would never say that all mongers are the same. But I am not every woman, I am just me.
I definatly agree 100 percent. It is about a connection and sometimes thats just not there. Also I have made lifelong friends with some of my clients even if we no long hook up if you will. These are guys I would call if I needed advice, a shoulder to cry on or a good belly laugh. Unfortunatly not all guys monger for the same reasons there are some that go out of their way to make you feel less than but they are among a very small percentage. I, too don't fit the mold and don't wanna. I rather be a warm and geniune experience than just a portal for pleasure [in actuality how pleasing is that?
Life does not give us what we want when want or with the ones we want. There is always something messing. It has never been perfect. At the moment of happiness we question if this happiness is gonna last or we fear that it comes with a tax. Our happiness is not complete.
I thought I have had friends but life needs are stonger. The ones we love do not love us back while the ones that love us we do not love them.
Life! Sorry guys I had to get it out of my system.
There are different types of females in the adult entertainment industry.
Ones that don't care about reviews or a reputation, they are in it for a quick fix for any given situation, I refer to them as "fly by nights".
Then their are females who depend on their reputation. In a recession it causes in any business, the cream of the crop to rise to the top.
With more women seeking escorting to supplement their income temporarily. Quality will be the foremost factor in those that can withstand the recession.
Escorts and their clients have many types of relationships. While some men are in it simply for the excitement, some men are filling a void. Sometimes the companionship factor is important. These men need someone to talk to, a unbiased opinion or simply some time away from a turbulent home life to relax. With a good provider it can be a sweet escape.
We do develop a level of relationship with these men. After time you become more evolved than simple chatter. I appreciate the men having families or not that simply took the time to text me and say "Happy Mothers Day". It's simple little things two people can do for each other just to show your appreciation even though it is a business.
Perhaps when the economy was different price could reflect quality better, but in these times. Quality is not necessarily reflected by price.
There are some wonderful ladies out there who choose to charge a lower amount and there are some not-so-wonderful ladies who try to get $$$$ and provide awful service in return. I was only suggesting the following:
-All providers are not the same. The quality of service varies. The menu of services available varies. The age, appearance, and attitude varies.
-As a result of this, a hobbyist may choose to go with a more expensive known provider than an unknown inexpensive provider.
I have certain qualities, both tangible intangible that look for. As was previously mentioned, sometimes it's just a matter of who "clicks". We all have had the YMMV experience. I'm sure that the same occurs on the provider side. One escort may think that a certain hobbyist is great and another may not like him at all.
In a nutshell, I was saying that this market really doesn't have perfect competition. Perfect competition requires comparable products/services and a free flow of information between buyers and sellers. The typical example is a corner with 4 gas station. All have basically the same product and the customer can see the prices of all 4 at the same time. In that situation, none of the gas stations can charge a higher price than the others without losing a whole lot of business.
I think we can all agree that this market is different. There is a wide variation in the marketplace from one escort to another. In part, due to legal issues, it is difficult for escorts and hobbyists to freely exchange information. My example of the high priced quality provider versus the low priced bad provider was just that, an example. It was not meant to suggest that this is necessarily the norm.
I think that this discussion has gotten to be way to technical. It's largelly my fault and I'm going shut up now.
I apologize if I offended anyone.
Just my 2 cents. I am able to play now because pricing has come down a little. I need a steady provider that is fun and can give 45 minutes for $125. 00 or so. I would rather spend time with a nice girl in her home than go to an AMP for the money and risk. I am an attractive, fit unhappily married WM that can sneak a little money out but not $200 and up.
Tmac
Ms. Raven just posted in the escort ads section. I went ahead and googled the phone number and it pulled up as the first hit, Frankie Rae from Washington DC. Is this the same Frankie Rae that caused a whole thread to be spawned, just to deal with her drama? Here is the link: [url]http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=128742[/url]
Maybe I missed something somewhere but I am absolutely stunned that she would post an ad here under a different name.
Either that or somebody is having a little fun with us. I would tend to guess that this is the actual story here. If so, nice try but "busted".
Just thought you all might be interested.
Looked up "her" phone number on google and got a hit on CV under TS/TV.
I also found posting in other places but I could not confirm or deny the chromosome pattern of poster (XX or XY). Might just be an innocent mistake.
Ariyal, if you read this could you clarify your status for us.
I decided to go see Roxy last night after a long day. Found her ad on Backpage, who doesn't like a Brazilian who gives massages. This was my 1st time seeing a massage therapist at a location other than an MP. When I arrived at the location near Conroy and Kirkman, I called her up to get the final directions. Her place is in a decent apartment, looks like she just moved in, hardly any furniture there.
Since the pics on her ad didn't show her face, you could tell the girl who answered the door wasn't the one in the photos. Roxy had a cute face, but her body needed some work. She has a pretty chubby body, I would say she is around 160 or so.
The massage itself was a sensual massage, she didn't have a clock in the room so I didn't have any idea how long it was for. I just remember thinking man, she has been working on my back for awhile I'm ready for the flip. After awhile I just ask her how long I have left, she had to get up and go to another room to find the time. When she came back she said it was 55 minutes, and the time is up. I told her there were other areas needing some care which she said was fine. The 2nd part of the massage was good, just wish I knew time was almost up. I would have asked her to flip me over awhile ago, I enjoy a frontal massage more then the back.
Total damage was $100 for an hour. She was def. not rush which was good, I got the feeling if I didn't bring up anything about the time she wouldn't even stopped.
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Guys,
I have no idea about Peyton Andrews today (maybe our friends from Tampa can comment) but the younger version was one of the 10 hotest women in the business. A real sweetheart too! Anyone have any current info?
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Guys,
I have no idea about Peyton Andrews today (maybe our friends from Tampa can comment) but the younger version was one of the 10 hottest women in the business. A real sweetheart too! Anyone have any current info?[/QUOTE]
Don't know about now but I did have the please of her company 'back in the day'. She was drop dead gorgeous and a good time in the sack to boot.
[QUOTE=Originalwook]Don't know about now but I did have the please of her company 'back in the day'. She was drop dead gorgeous and a good time in the sack to boot.[/QUOTE]
She has been out of the business for a long time......and I have a two hour appointment tomorrow (she's not taking appts. today) so I'm sure i'll be recommending her by tomorrow night---VS
Hey VS,
Do you have that report for us?
[QUOTE=Grand Piano]Looked up "her" phone number on google and got a hit on CV under TS/TV.
I also found posting in other places but I could not confirm or deny the chromosome pattern of poster (XX or XY). Might just be an innocent mistake.
Ariyal, if you read this could you clarify your status for us.[/QUOTE]Well I don't know about CV but I am all Woman don't know how it is listed on TS/TV.
[QUOTE=Marine Matt]Hey VS,
Do you have that report for us?[/QUOTE]
We had a scheduling conflict, Aunt Flo was right on schedule, so we agreed to postpone to a later time.--VS
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Guys,
I have no idea about Peyton Andrews today (maybe our friends from Tampa can comment) but the younger version was one of the 10 hotest women in the business. A real sweetheart too! Anyone have any current info?[/QUOTE]Amazing as it seems, this Peyton Andrews is the same woman who was the sweetheart of the Tampa area a few years back. I can tell you this with 100% certainty. Yes, she's a little older but she's the SAME woman in all the ways that matter. It took me quite a while to set up a meeting but when it finally happened I forgot about all that. She's living up north of Orlando and only travels to the Mt. Dora area a few days per week. Email worked for me: [email]sxytampababe@yahoo.com[/email]
Has anybody been with this provider from lingerie-hottiez-orlando with PH 321-260-4692.
Maybe an agency listing her on BP and on naughty reviews.
She looks great but just wondering if any one has had an experience?
New Provider (Strawberry)
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Has anybody been with this provider from lingerie-hottiez-orlando with PH 321-260-4692.
Maybe an agency listing her on BP and on naughty reviews.
She looks great but just wondering if any one has had an experience?
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Hey, guys I'm new so forgive me if I make a faux pas. However, I have a question. Katie of Katieluvsgfe fame has a friend/roomate, Jessica, and Katie posted Jessica's web address on her lastest ad but I can't seem to get that address to work. I clicked on the address Katie left but no luck. Jessica says it works for her. Has anyone else tried this web site; Jessicaluvsgfe. Myescortpage.com? Has anyone here met Jessica; she received about ten good reviews all in one day.
[QUOTE=Jerry Ll]Hey, guys I'm new so forgive me if I make a faux pas. However, I have a question. Katie of Katieluvsgfe fame has a friend/roomate, Jessica, and Katie posted Jessica's web address on her lastest ad but I can't seem to get that address to work. I clicked on the address Katie left but no luck. Jessica says it works for her. Has anyone else tried this web site; Jessicaluvsgfe. Myescortpage.com? Has anyone here met Jessica; she received about ten good reviews all in one day.[/QUOTE]
Try this link:
[url]http://jessicaluvsgfe.escort-site.com/[/url]
Here is one that is new from what I have seen. A recent review on another site gives her high marks. The reviewer has a long list of posts. I believe she posts on Escorts.com.
Here is her webb page: [url]http://xobridgettexo.escort-site.com[/url]
Thanks for the info. Yeah, after I posted that request I find the web site myself. I dont understand why the provider doesn't know her own web address. She insisted the address she posted worked for her. It might do her some good to post the correct address. I e-mailed her and reminded her what the correct address is.
FYI from Peyton. E-mailed Peyton and received the following yesterday:
"sorry my car and phone was stolen along with my purse, 2 weeks ago and only the car has been recovered. I have to reply by email til i get another phone, you can help me by posting that so others will be aware, I will be available again this week"
Her e-mail is [email]sxytampababe@yahoo.com[/email]
EZCO
[QUOTE=Ezcompany]FYI from Peyton. E-mailed Peyton and received the following yesterday:
"sorry my car and phone was stolen along with my purse, 2 weeks ago and only the car has been recovered. I have to reply by email til i get another phone, you can help me by posting that so others will be aware, I will be available again this week"
Her e-mail is [email]sxytampababe@yahoo.com[/email]
EZCO[/QUOTE]I have seen her several times. I don't post at all but the ladies on here know me. And she is the real deal, just email her, she is awesome. She is doing incalls.
[QUOTE=Sillyolman]Here is one that is new from what I have seen. A recent review on another site gives her high marks. The reviewer has a long list of posts. I believe she posts on Escorts.com.
Here is her webb page: [url]http://xobridgettexo.escort-site.com[/url][/QUOTE]
I think the review you're referring to is mine. I have already posted a recommendation for her on the Real Deal thread.
[QUOTE=Ezcompany]FYI from Peyton. E-mailed Peyton and received the following yesterday:
"sorry my car and phone was stolen along with my purse, 2 weeks ago and only the car has been recovered. I have to reply by email til i get another phone, you can help me by posting that so others will be aware, I will be available again this week"
Her e-mail is [email]sxytampababe@yahoo.com[/email]
EZCO[/QUOTE]Peyton is the real deal, I have seen her several times, was keeping her to myself. Great girl, had some issues last week. Send her a email. She is a lot of fun. I do not post at all, I like to fly under the radar, the local girls know me. So give Peyton a email, you won't go wrong.
Does anyone know anything on these three.
They all have different phone numbers but all are in the same place.
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[QUOTE=Roblatino]Does anyone know anything on these three.
They all have different phone numbers but all are in the same place.
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Occasionally, though rarely, I read the instructions. Forum rules prohibit hot-linking to photos on other websites. Please remove any occurrence of ^ when trying to validate the information I post.
I have no info on Lina.
I have no info on Stacy.
Cindy's pics can be found on other websites:
Cindy1
http://www.lamegapanama.com/lm/multimedia/fotos/1380.^jpg
http://img.adoosimg.com/8092545a3eeda037dfc4d344e606-2-2.^jpg
Cindy2
http://www.lamegapanama.com/lm/multimedia/fotos/1378.^jpg
Cindy3
http://www.lamegapanama.com/lm/articulos/articulos/imagenes/image007.^jpg
http://photos1.hi5.com/0025/824/954/MZftOx824954-02.^jpg
Cindy4
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x234/WickedDreamz_2007/HOT%20ASS/03vg.^jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/8afox3t.^jpg
http://www.lamegapanama.com/lm/multimedia/fotos/1370.^jpg
http://f4.flogs.com.br/2008/06/04/2432396.^jpg
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[QUOTE=Roblatino]Does anyone know anything on these three.
They all have different phone numbers but all are in the same place.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/_9728_try_9728_something_9728_new_9728_come_play_with_me_24/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1531520[/url]
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[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/_incall_specials_come_and_have_some_fun_sexy_hottie_22/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1530155[/url][/QUOTE]The 3736 number comes up agency on google..many different girls.
Beware
[QUOTE=Beetleman]Peyton is the real deal, I have seen her several times, was keeping her to myself. Great girl, had some issues last week. Send her a email. She is a lot of fun. I do not post at all, I like to fly under the radar, the local girls know me. So give Peyton a email, you won't go wrong.[/QUOTE]What does that mean? Does it mean that you come on here use the information and never report your experiences or find any girls on your own that you are willing to share? In nature entities like that are called parasites. If all of us acted this way there would be no board.
"was keeping her to myself " How does one keep a provider to himself unless you "sugardaddy" her and obviously thats not the case.
Peyton may be a great girl but I'll never know because she has broken two appointments with me , one with no explanation and has not returned e-mails over a two week period. She told me in a phone conversation that she uses a desktop computer so that wasn't stolen. She did send me the same mail she apparently sent everybody saying she was back up and running in Tavares. Responding is just common courtesy a simple YES or NO is fine.
P.S.-Do you ride your bike to Mt. Dora?--Maybe just maybe your not as under the radar as you think you are, does the #60 ring a bell.----VS
I had a brief email with peyton twice she has broken an appointment with me, so not sure if she is the Real Deal or not?
She did send pictures of herself she said they were 2 years old, but she looked incredible. Said she looked the same. Etc.
And we all know what crack and mcdonalds does for a body. So still in limbo.
Man Cindy is hot !
I wish I could find info on her.
[QUOTE=VerySlowly]What does that mean? Does it mean that you come on here use the information and never report your experiences or find any girls on your own that you are willing to share? In nature entities like that are called parasites. If all of us acted this way there would be no board.
"was keeping her to myself " How does one keep a provider to himself unless you "sugardaddy" her and obviously thats not the case.
Peyton may be a great girl but I'll never know because she has broken two appointments with me , one with no explanation and has not returned e-mails over a two week period. She told me in a phone conversation that she uses a desktop computer so that wasn't stolen. She did send me the same mail she apparently sent everybody saying she was back up and running in Tavares. Responding is just common courtesy a simple YES or NO is fine.
P.S.-Do you ride your bike to Mt. Dora?--Maybe just maybe your not as under the radar as you think you are, does the #60 ring a bell.----VS[/QUOTE]Vs. I weight 360 lbs, I look like a beetle. Big round body, little head, see beetleman. And I don't think a bike can hold my fat a#at$$, she is having issues. All girls have issues. And since you called me out, no problem, I will give input. Pm me for more info. Beetle.
[QUOTE=Mario Gonzalez]I had a brief email with peyton twice she has broken an appointment with me, so not sure if she is the Real Deal or not?
She did send pictures of herself she said they were 2 years old, but she looked incredible. Said she looked the same. Etc.
And we all know what crack and mcdonalds does for a body. So still in limbo.[/QUOTE]
Here is a current pic. She is hot.
Did my searches but could not find any information. Has anyone seen her and if so please share the wealth! You can send a PM if you prefer.
Thanks in advance.
EZCO
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