Massage Therapists for Therapeutic and L1 Finish

[QUOTE=BubbleBoi402;7198659]Reads like the provider is great, but it's all customer's fault why he didn't get HJ. Customer needs to know how to initiate in a polite and respective way. Not sure what exactly that means. Also gotta tip enough to stay on the nice list for a future potential hj reward. Playing this game with entry fee of 120 is absurd.[/QUOTE]Respectfully, I don't need to do anything. It was my choice. I didn't say it was the providers fault in the first place. She is very nice. I just don't like the "will she do it or will she not " game. You don't even know what it exactly means to initiate politely so WTF was that comment for? I just don't appreciate fellow mongers assuming I didn't tip enough? I've been in the game long enough to know the tip a provider deserves.

1. Unlicensed FBSM providers for whom the sensual extras are the main focus. Some may be decent, or even good to excellent, in the massage department, which is certainly a bonus, but their business model is centered around the extras they offer. Also, for this type of provider their physical attractiveness is another selling point.

2. Licensed therapeutic-only providers for whom the quality of the massage is the main selling point. Extras are not offered and, although physical attractiveness is a plus, it's not essential for their business model to be successful.

3. Licensed therapeutic providers who are willing to provide extras. IME, this category can be further subdivided, as follows:

A. Therapeutic masseuses who are more forward when it comes to offering extras, and;.

B. Therapeutic masseuses who are more cautious when it comes to offering extras.

Unless I'm mistaken, this sub-forum is primarily for the discussion of masseuses falling into Category 3. My previous post was intended solely for pointing out where (Body, Soul, & Spirit) Jenny falls in that spectrum. It was not my intent to imply that any particular client is at fault, as I don't believe there's any fault to be apportioned. It's simply a matter of recognizing, and matching, the expectations of both sides of the transaction. For those clients who don't want to do that, fair enough. For those clients who choose to take the position that any issue is entirely the provider's fault, that's your prerogative. My post was aimed at those who might wish to continue seeing Jenny and were wondering how to get to the next level. There are dozens of providers out there, and some are a better fit than others for various reasons. For me, Jenny's attractiveness and quality of service (massage + extras), make seeing her a no-brainer.

About my comment on tipping, that also wasn't meant to blame any particular client. However, for anyone who has ever had a substantive conversation with any massage provider, you've undoubtedly heard stories of clients who tip very little, or not at all. Jenny, as is also the case with KK, Tara, and a few others, does not ask for a tip (ever) and will never haggle or upsell. That's a huge plus, IMO, as money discussions always kill my mood. And that's a big reason I prefer such masseuses to others. My point, which is applicable to all non-haggle providers, is simply that they remember who compensates them fairly.

Just my two-cents' worth, and every monger can do with it what they will. From the way my inbox has blown up with inquiries re Jenny, however, it certainly looks like there's a high degree of positive interest out there.

[QUOTE=MrEnding;7198609]Look up body soul and spirit on google. Text that number for appointment. Her massage is really great. Like the other guy posted she definitely won't make the first move. I won't either I just don't feel comfortable with doing that myself so I will just take my money somewhere else. There is another independent lady named Julie that is not as great as Jenny but will make a "oops" sorry I touched you there attempt. PM if interested. Good luck 🫡.[/QUOTE]Where is Julie located?

[QUOTE=Skooby;7209460]Where is Julie located?[/QUOTE]See message #79 - (perhaps it was not visible / posted when you asked your question).

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.

[QUOTE=MrEnding;7198609]Look up body soul and spirit on google. Text that number for appointment. Her massage is really great. Like the other guy posted she definitely won't make the first move. I won't either I just don't feel comfortable with doing that myself so I will just take my money somewhere else. There is another independent lady named Julie that is not as great as Jenny but will make a "oops" sorry I touched you there attempt. PM if interested. Good luck 🫡.[/QUOTE]'Are you referring to the Julie / Mai that used to work at Bvld Haircuts? I've been searching to reconnect with her for over a year.

[QUOTE=PilotAviator;7209811]See message #79 - (perhaps it was not visible / posted when you asked your question).

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.[/QUOTE]Is body soul and spirit referencing Jenny or Julie? In post #79 it read as if it's referencing jenny. When I google body soul and spirit the reviews say jenny not Julie.

[QUOTE=Skooby;7212293]Is body soul and spirit referencing Jenny or Julie? In post #79 it read as if it's referencing jenny. When I google body soul and spirit the reviews say jenny not Julie.[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure it's Jenny you are looking for. She gives an outstanding massage and a nice finish.

Pyle.

[QUOTE=CVilleCub;7106934]Shout out to Mr Ending for the above review. You inspired me to make the trip out to Vitality to see if I could get the same experience.

I usually go to these places as the last appointment before they close cause I hate when someone rings the doorbell while I'm getting a massage. I called ahead just to make sure they weren't slammed. Walked up the stairs of a typical joint townhouse office building, the downstairs office was closed at this point. Waiting for me was a (best guess) late 50's short and kind of thick Korean lady named Lily. Said she had been there for 2 years. She asked how long I wanted, I said an hour, to which she replied "ok 75". I look at the sign of prices behind her and it said 1 hour was 70. So I pointed that out and she quickly said "oh yes 70.75 if you want hard massage". Obviously its only $5 but I didn't really appreciate the early attempt to hustle me haha.

Was directed into one of the 4 rooms. Didn't get a glimpse of any of the other girls who might be working there, but I imagine there was at least one hanging out in a different room. Like many of you I'm no stranger to AMPs so I laid down without the towel and she came in and immediately said "oh good". Massage was honestly very enjoyable, firm and thorough with a good amount of teasing. Similar to OP, she gave me compliments periodically and had insanely soft hands, so I'm assuming its the same lady, but maybe that's just their M. O.

No real negotiation on the flip, gave me a slow L1 alternating techniques. She kept reaching down like she wanted to stick a finger up my bum but that's not really my thing and she never fully went for it LOL but if it is your thing I would guess its on the table.

7+.6 solid experience. I've spent too much time going to these FS AMPs and forgot what a real relaxing L1 massage was like.

Looking forward to future experiences. Will keep checking this thread for any gems people are willing to share.

Happy hunting gents![/QUOTE]I was only treated to a great massage and nothing more.

[QUOTE=RobSquad;7213306]I was only treated to a great massage and nothing more.[/QUOTE]Did you get the same frumpy lady as the other reviewers or different one?

[QUOTE=Boulder1028;7215973]Did you get the same frumpy lady as the other reviewers or different one?[/QUOTE]Not sure. She was wearing a red top and frail. Made it pretty obvious on the flip and even inquired, but was told that didn't happen there.

I'll prolly go back cause the massage was great. But i guess I'll have to keep looking for a one stop shop .

Impact is a mostly legit studio in Annandale. I've posted about it before, as have others. It may not be a sure thing every time (I've had decent results, but YMMV), but the massage is always top shelf. I recommend Tina's massage- she's a tallish (5'6"-5'8" slender, mature (probably 40's-mid 50s), and her complexion is clear and unwrinkled) therapist. Very good deep tissue massage, and she knows her way around a massage table. Limited roaming, and no shedding of clothes, but for those who like a great therapeutic massage with a relaxing finish, I recommend her (and the shop). Take a shower ahead of time, and always be nice to the ladies.

[QUOTE=RobSquad;7213306]I was only treated to a great massage and nothing more.[/QUOTE]I went back a couple of weeks ago and was met by a younger chick (late 30's / early 40's maybe, its been a while so hard to visualize her). I remember asking for 60 minutes of the harder massage which costs $5 more, now officially written on the sign, so I had to pay it LOL.

It was late and I was out of it, so at one point when I still hadn't turned over she told me "5 minutes left" - I was taken aback cause I wanted a HE. She tried to upsell me to 90 minutes to which I refused and then got the hint that I just wanted a handy and ended up following through.

I went back the following week to see if I could get a more sensual massage, same girl was there. She led me to a different room, I paid, and she said 5 minutes so I assumed she was finishing up an appointment. I lay down and a few minutes later the oldest granny ever comes in. Doesn't speak a lick of English so I can even argue since I'm butt naked laying on the table. Honestly the massage was solid from grandma and she also jerked me off FWIW, after trying to upsell to 90 minutes.

They both seem shy and a little uncertain of what the gents are actually there for. Might have to specifically ask, as opposed to just assuming its going to happen.

Hope this helps. Sorry I didn't provide the update after my last visit. Figured it was already on people's radars.

[QUOTE=RobSquad;7216784]Not sure. She was wearing a red top and frail. Made it pretty obvious on the flip and even inquired, but was told that didn't happen there.

I'll prolly go back cause the massage was great. But i guess I'll have to keep looking for a one stop shop .[/QUOTE]Oh sorry I posted my last reply before seeing that you did specifically ask. Not sure what the deal is, but there has definitely been a turnover in staff.

Was horny all week and couldn't wait for Friday. Went to Forever Wellness and got grace. She had on a tight dress with her boobs looking poking out of them. Went to the back and she asked if I wanted everything. Decided I just wanted L1. The massage was meh but the flip was amazing. She went between my legs and laid my legs on her knees. She started to slowly rub my balls and give me an edging session. She would continue to mimic like she would put jr in her mouth which turned me on. She took her time with me and then she told me it was time to cum. I let out a huge explosion even had me grunt loud asf LOL she cleaned me up and we said our goodbyes. I will definitely repeat just for the L1. . 6 to the house .6 to her.

[QUOTE=RobSquad;7216784]Not sure. She was wearing a red top and frail. Made it pretty obvious on the flip and even inquired, but was told that didn't happen there.

I'll prolly go back cause the massage was great. But i guess I'll have to keep looking for a one stop shop .[/QUOTE]I decided to roll the dice and take a chance. I had an older granny from what I could tell.

Massage was great, to make sure she knew what I was looking for I made sure to lift my hips every time she rubbed my ass or went to my upper thighs. Eventually she had me on all 4's and played with me for a bit. Flipped with standard nova. Total damage $.05.

As I was leaving I saw a hot one that works there. Much younger, and just looked good all over. Not sure what she provides but damn she looked good.

On sunrise. For how good the massage is, I'd almost say it's the closest thing to an L1 but it's not because they are strictly legit.

I get the best massages here no doubt, was here couple weeks ago and always think about going again.

Any recs for busty providers that give topless L1? Having a hard time finding anyone new and don't want to go the escort route. Indy preferred, natural tits, no tats, slim to small BBW. Thanks for your help. PM if preferred.

[QUOTE=Dunnit;7264438]Any recs for busty providers that give topless L1? Having a hard time finding anyone new and don't want to go the escort route. Indy preferred, natural tits, no tats, slim to small BBW. Thanks for your help. PM if preferred.[/QUOTE]I've shared some intel to a similar query before. It's Post #53 here:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37205-Massage-Therapists-for-Therapeutic-and-L1-Finish&p=7148184&viewfull=1[/URL]#post7148184.

Kiko at Diamond Flash, Fairfax also has big naturals and allows plenty of nursing.

I had a great massage at Best Therapy, McLean (listed on rubmaps).

My therapist was Susan. Reasonable looking, reserved personality, but very skilled masseuse.

The place is very clean. The sheets on the table and the room were all very clean. I asked for a strong massage and she delivered. She used good pressue with great skill on the right spots.

There was decent PM play and a nice L1 finish. No haggling for a tip. Didn't seem like she was ok with any UTC or OTC, which was fine with me. There was some time left over during which she massaged the quads really well.

Great experience overall.

Couple of points about this place: they charge 80 for the hour.

The spa is on the first floor of an office building, right by the elevators. You have to wait outside the door after you ring the bell, so some people might see you waiting. There shouldn't be any traffic in the evening or the weekend. If you go during the day, I'd recommend calling after you've parked and telling them you're about to come in.

[QUOTE=SteveSmithAbq;7264502]I had a great massage at Best Therapy, McLean (listed on rubmaps).

My therapist was Susan. Reasonable looking, reserved personality, but very skilled masseuse.

The place is very clean. The sheets on the table and the room were all very clean. I asked for a strong massage and she delivered. She used good pressue with great skill on the right spots.

There was decent PM play and a nice L1 finish. No haggling for a tip. Didn't seem like she was ok with any UTC or OTC, which was fine with me. There was some time left over during which she massaged the quads really well.

Great experience overall.

Couple of points about this place: they charge 80 for the hour.

The spa is on the first floor of an office building, right by the elevators. You have to wait outside the door after you ring the bell, so some people might see you waiting. There shouldn't be any traffic in the evening or the weekend. If you go during the day, I'd recommend calling after you've parked and telling them you're about to come in.[/QUOTE]I went here back in Jan. To treat myself because it offers 4-hand, albeit at 160/ hr. Two young Chinese, one cute but reserved, one more outgoing but more meh, worked me over well, and both participated in the L1, so I gave them 1.0 to split. The meh rejected my handsiness, saying they were too cold, which they often are in winter. Was thinking of returning to see if more was on the menu with just one, but it sounds like it might not be, so thanks for sharing.

Figured I would finally give Tara a try as I am going to be down Annandale way this weekend. I went on her ad to get the number and seems to say her hr massage rate is 200. Is that an accurate? Even for an independent that seems a little steep. Kinda wanted to confirm that before reaching out.

[QUOTE=HardforRubs;7276355]Figured I would finally give Tara a try as I am going to be down Annandale way this weekend. I went on her ad to get the number and seems to say her hr massage rate is 200. Is that an accurate? Even for an independent that seems a little steep. Kinda wanted to confirm that before reaching out.[/QUOTE]Her CL ad wasn't clear but she posted a BP ad today that states clearly 200 h, 120 hh. I saw her in January and gave her the usualy 120 h, so there has been a price hike since she came back from Thailand. I doubt I will see her at the new rate.

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[QUOTE=Dunnit;7276729]Her CL ad wasn't clear but she posted a BP ad today that states clearly 200 h, 120 hh. I saw her in January and gave her the usualy 120 h, so there has been a price hike since she came back from Thailand. I doubt I will see her at the new rate.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/EroticMassage/annandale/13246804.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Her massage is great, she gets naked without even asking, but damn that's a steep jump in price. There better be more than just a standard finish for that much.

After taking several weeks away from mongering, I visited Panda Pro Massage off Old Bridge in shopping center by PW Pkwy.

I was looking for legitimate massage after days of yard work. The older the 2 ladies there, acted as Mamasan, had younger girl do massage. Guessed her to be in 20's but she was very "by-the-book" and wouldn't come in curtain covered room (no door) until I was on the table and covered. She did very well for medium pressure massage. Asked where my sore spots were, and I showed her. There was no OTC touching. Just a good massage.

Damage was. 7 for hour, .3 for tip. I'll go back.

[QUOTE=PerfectCell34;7114288]Health Center near Ballston. I'm not a huge on the AMP scene, but this one is ol' reliable. Solid massages all around from all the ladies. They rarely get new talent but I go so infrequently half the time I see a new girl, tend to be nice 40-50 y / o. Only thing I'd want more of is tease before the flip, but they take their time with the L1 finish.[/QUOTE]What's the exact name of this place? Can't find it anywhere.

Anybody experience both Manassas Mira and Body and Soul Jenny? If so, which is the better massage experience? I don't get out much so I'm trying to see if I should spend my hall pass on a follow up with Jenny or taking the Manassas trip for the first time.

[QUOTE=RufusDoofus;7308964]Anybody experience both Manassas Mira and Body and Soul Jenny? If so, which is the better massage experience? I don't get out much so I'm trying to see if I should spend my hall pass on a follow up with Jenny or taking the Manassas trip for the first time.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen Mira, but have read intel on her. She provides a great massage, but no extras, whereas Jenny provides a great massage and her menu opens up over time.

I'd also recommend Best Therapy in McLean. Very clean, great massage, PM play with skillful finish.

Has anybody seen Sandy? She offers 1 hr for $. 0 which is lower than the normal Thai hourly.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/fairfax/13253398.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sexingit;7310372]Has anybody seen Sandy? She offers 1 hr for $. 0 which is lower than the normal Thai hourly.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/fairfax/13253398.html[/URL][/QUOTE]$60/ hr max for me.

[QUOTE=RufusDoofus;7308964]Anybody experience both Manassas Mira and Body and Soul Jenny? If so, which is the better massage experience? I don't get out much so I'm trying to see if I should spend my hall pass on a follow up with Jenny or taking the Manassas trip for the first time.[/QUOTE]Mira is very good. Go for the hour, if you like it and connect, then opt for the 90 minutes. The drive is a bit long as she's near Sudley and 234, I think it's worth it. The longer session includes more stretching and more time on back, legs, neck, face, and chest. Very relaxing and I usually fall asleep at some point.

She's STRICTLY BUSINESS, NO EXTRAS. I was there last week and was told of a few a $$hats asking for L1 and more. She doesn't do this at all. One A $$HOLE threatened to call ICE on her. She blocked him and I also told her that those threats can be reported.

[QUOTE=RufusDoofus;7308964]Anybody experience both Manassas Mira and Body and Soul Jenny? If so, which is the better massage experience? I don't get out much so I'm trying to see if I should spend my hall pass on a follow up with Jenny or taking the Manassas trip for the first time.[/QUOTE]Have not experienced Jenny, but I see Mira once a month for a 90 m session and can highly recommend. Her service gets better as she gets to know you.

Lou.

I somewhat frequent Jiafu installing, and for a while, I was getting a woman who was a little bit heavier set (she might have done back walking too). But I haven't seen here there in a bit. Can't remember her name, but she gave a decent massage with nice edging and finish every time. I haven't seen here there in a bit, and wondered if anyone knows if she is now elsewhere or if I just keep missing her. Any Intel would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=HardforRubs;7354297]I somewhat frequent Jiafu installing, and for a while, I was getting a woman who was a little bit heavier set (she might have done back walking too). But I haven't seen here there in a bit. Can't remember her name, but she gave a decent massage with nice edging and finish every time. I haven't seen here there in a bit, and wondered if anyone knows if she is now elsewhere or if I just keep missing her. Any Intel would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Mamasan is Ella and she's pretty good. Aslo there is Coco, who is heavyset and one other that I cannot remember her name. Ella likes to provide eye contact durung the HE and it weirded me out the first few times, but now I like it.

[QUOTE=SexRohmer;7354567]Mamasan is Ella and she's pretty good. Aslo there is Coco, who is heavyset and one other that I cannot remember her name. Ella likes to provide eye contact durung the HE and it weirded me out the first few times, but now I like it.[/QUOTE]I think Coco is probably my favorite there at the moment, despite having a big belly. She got really into me rubbing her pussy (otc mind you), and seems to let me get away with a little more roaming of the hands than others during the HE. But I never am disappointed when I go there. Although I do wish the TS wasn't extra there.

[QUOTE=Boulder1028;7280408]Her massage is great, she gets naked without even asking, but damn that's a steep jump in price. There better be more than just a standard finish for that much.[/QUOTE]Has anyone visited Tara since this last post? I haven't seen her in years but I do remember her tits and might like grip them again.

[QUOTE=HardforRubs;7354645]I think Coco is probably my favorite there at the moment, despite having a big belly. She got really into me rubbing her pussy (otc mind you), and seems to let me get away with a little more roaming of the hands than others during the HE. But I never am disappointed when I go there. Although I do wish the TS wasn't extra there.[/QUOTE]Looks like she took the name of COCO but is not the same. Other coco was reallly cute and fun. Jiafu is off my list until they change up. MMS is always fun to talk with but now I go other places.

Any recommendations for providers who are young (20's) with natural breasts?

Send them my way. Thank you!

Feel free to shoot me a DM.

Gents, are there any recommendations for a decent massage place in Fairfax that provides two pops? Indy, AMP or shop. I don't have a preference other than her looks are decent, and I know that appearances are all about personal preference but I'm open to suggestions. Thanks! PM if you want to keep it off the thread.

Kid.

I'd be interested also. Not sure if anyone at May Wellness does this??

[QUOTE=KidFarian;7375251]Gents, are there any recommendations for a decent massage place in Fairfax that provides two pops? Indy, AMP or shop. I don't have a preference other than her looks are decent, and I know that appearances are all about personal preference but I'm open to suggestions. Thanks! PM if you want to keep it off the thread.

Kid.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KidFarian;7375251]Gents, are there any recommendations for a decent massage place in Fairfax that provides two pops? Indy, AMP or shop. I don't have a preference other than her looks are decent, and I know that appearances are all about personal preference but I'm open to suggestions. Thanks! PM if you want to keep it off the thread.

Kid.[/QUOTE]Most places mentioned in this thread would offer than. You just need to ask that nicely and directly at the beginning, and tip more that would do the trick.