In the NATIONAL news today is a story about a Craigslist bust of a group of escorts in the Baltimore area. I'm just reminding everyone to be careful.
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In the NATIONAL news today is a story about a Craigslist bust of a group of escorts in the Baltimore area. I'm just reminding everyone to be careful.
Anybody care to speculate as to the real reason for the crackdowns? Do we really think these K girls are sex slaves? We have all talked to these girls. I have never gotten a prisoner vibe from any. These girls are going out on dates with customers.
I know these K girls can act but really! Burnout for sure. Something is fishy here. The feds are looking for easy headlines. Easier than busting into the hood and banging it with bloods or crips or latin kings or mm13 the friggin list goes on and on.
Politics? elections? I wonder.
And why are the local boys locked out on these raids.
These girls are most likely not in any way "sex slaves". The media uses these words because it sounds good to the public. It is possible, hell I will give them 10 percent might be held in some way. However, I have talked many AMP girls and hell, this one recently, who had been here for 4 years (the US) her parents lived right down the street from the AMP, and she lived in a condo up north a ways.
Does not hardly sound like a slave situation to me. Also, think about the kind of money these girls bring in, even if they only get 50 percent of the tips. Definitely higher by about 50 times then slave wages. You never can tell though. The providers are loaded in most cases (though some have bad gambling problems etc.) and half of them work only 1/3 of the year and vacation the rest.
I would say the busts happened because it was a catchy way to get the medias attention, and it is easier then solving real crimes. Oh, aren't some elections going on? Either way, it happened to about 20 places from NY to NC, all up and down the east coast. 20 were raided, and a even larger amount closed by there own will for obvious reasons right after.
Zhuxi
If L/E really thinks they are victims, why do they then cuff them and parade them around half naked.
No way to treat a victim.
[QUOTE=Zhuxi]These girls are most likely not in any way "sex slaves". The media uses these words because it sounds good to the public. It is possible, hell I will give them 10 percent might be held in some way. However, I have talked many AMP girls and hell, this one recently, who had been here for 4 years (the US) her parents lived right down the street from the AMP, and she lived in a condo up north a ways.
Does not hardly sound like a slave situation to me. Also, think about the kind of money these girls bring in, even if they only get 50 percent of the tips. Definitely higher by about 50 times then slave wages. You never can tell though. The providers are loaded in most cases (though some have bad gambling problems etc.) and half of them work only 1/3 of the year and vacation the rest.
I would say the busts happened because it was a catchy way to get the medias attention, and it is easier then solving real crimes. Oh, aren't some elections going on? Either way, it happened to about 20 places from NY to NC, all up and down the east coast. 20 were raided, and a even larger amount closed by there own will for obvious reasons right after.
Zhuxi[/QUOTE]
It might also be a way to grab up some money, then save the "victims" and then cover up the whole thing after, all hypothetical right? Read this news story out of NY, sounds like Z and Bud are on the right track, next thing we'll read is that they were linked to Al Quida and were under NSA surveillance...
VICE OFFICERS CHARGED IN COVER-UP
Thursday August 17, 2006
NEW YORK (AP) Three members of a police vice squad have been charged with breaking into a massage parlor to steal surveillance equipment in an effort to cover up a flawed prostitution raid, prosecutors said.
The officers Lt. Stephen Wong, Sgt. Kwun Tso and Officer Yuseff Hamm pleaded not guilty Wednesday to burglary charges in state Supreme Court in Brooklyn. The officers were released without bail and told to return to court on Sept. 19.
According to authorities, the officers arrested seven women and the owner of the massage parlor on prostitution charges during a raid on the Brooklyn business in April. Wong filed sworn statements accusing the women of offering sex for money, according to prosecutors, who said the statements were false.
The owner of the parlor told the officers that video surveillance equipment in his building would clear him and the women of the charges, authorities said.
The day after the prostitution raid, prosecutors said, the officers staged a bogus gambling raid at a building next door to the massage parlor. During that bust, the officers broke into the parlor and took a surveillance camera and a computer, said Assistant District Attorney Sharif Abdur-Rahim.
But a second recording device hidden in the ceiling caught the officers in the act, said Jonathan Sims, a lawyer for the parlor owner who gave the recording to the Brooklyn district attorney's office.
Wong's lawyer, Peter Brill, said after Wednesday's hearing that the ``documents he filed in connection with those arrests were accurate.''
``We feel confident that the lieutenant and his team had probable cause to enter the location,'' Brill said.
[url]http://www.newsradio880.com/topic/ap_news.php?story=AP/APTV/State/NY/n/NY--OfficersCharged_o_n_0ny--[/url]
BD...thank you for that post, man.
The lengths these zealots would go through is indescrible.
There is hope at the end of the rainbow for AMPs.
BD- Good job digging that up. I bet you will not see that on the news, or see it get extensive media coverage. (Unlike the other situation).
Zhuxi
The sealed complaint from the us attorneys office.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30764[/url]
[QUOTE=Vegas Baby]The sealed complaint from the us attorneys office.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30764[/url][/QUOTE]
Very interesting reading! I noticed, upon doing a search of the word "Connecticut", the name "Bally Sauna" (perported
as the "New Hong-Kong") popped-up several times in the document. Apparently, it too, is under investigation. (sorry folks,
upon reading this, I was thinking of taking a stroll to Stamford, but decided not this time.)
Odd thing.. If this is a sealed complaint, How did it manage to leak out? Score one for the hobby!
Wanderer --:Those who wander, Aren't necessarily lost!
Fellow CT Mongerers: If you haven't checked out the Photo gallery in awhile, you may find these interesting - the entire "cindy" series posted by Tinglygood out of Baltimore on 9/3 & 9/4 (those blue eyes will drive you NUTS!); also check out "Downward Spiral" posted by Block Partier also out of Baltimore on 9/4/06 - 12 mugshots side-by-side amounting to a pictoral study in the deterioration of a SW over time - (there's a lesson in there somewhere). What the hell is going on in Baltimore?!? Send Cindy up to CT for a, um, vacation - yeah, that's it, a vacation. I'm sure we'd all kick in!
[QUOTE=Down Low]Fellow CT Mongerers: If you haven't checked out the Photo gallery in awhile, you may find these interesting - the entire "cindy" series posted by Tinglygood out of Baltimore on 9/3 & 9/4 (those blue eyes will drive you NUTS!); also check out "Downward Spiral" posted by Block Partier also out of Baltimore on 9/4/06 - 12 mugshots side-by-side amounting to a pictoral study in the deterioration of a SW over time - (there's a lesson in there somewhere). What the hell is going on in Baltimore?!? Send Cindy up to CT for a, um, vacation - yeah, that's it, a vacation. I'm sure we'd all kick in![/QUOTE]
He said she doesn't look like that anymore.
[QUOTE=Wolfman Jack]He said she doesn't look like that anymore.[/QUOTE]
Must be the "downward spiral" effect!
Some Guy from Ukraine in Queens along with one or two women was arrested in connection with east Euro massage parlor in exteinsive region including Conn.
I stopped into the Blue Parrot in Southington on Saturday night. I was told by a dancer that it was their last night and they were closing for a few months to remodel. They will reopen in December.
How do you guys feel about posting reviews on TER? I was thinking about it but note that they have your name and email address. Seem too easy to trace! I assume it is just like here, but everyone knows we are just BS'ing here! Am I being paranoid? Is paranoia bad?
TN
Healthy paranoia is only bad, when you have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.
In theory, whats on there is not enough to convict or admissable. But its a theory.
Unfortunately, I see little to gain by the TER review system. I've seen some women with questionable beauty being reviewed as a 8 or 9 in looks, merely because she had big boobs. (SweetheartinCT for example.) She has a true butter face, imo...though shes a dickpleaser in terms of her breast proportions. But not much more, imo.
TER has lots of shills and not a few fake reports.
I find TER useful but you have to take it with a grain of salt. As Stoner says, there's plenty of shilling there but you can at least get a sense that you won't get ripped off if a lady has lots of reviews. You can also save some money if the reviews are all average or worse.
If the reviews are all good, it's harder to be sure. If they have lots of reviews by different people, you can throw out the outliers and the consensus might be pretty good.
The criticisms may be sugar coated though. "Busty" and "curvy" can just mean "fat". If they don't say she's beautiful, she probably isn't. A focus on her great personality probably means the same thing it did when your sister tried to set you up with her friend. Guys can get VIP membership if they write enough reviews, so any given review may be just plain made up.
This is some very interesting reading. I read this on the california boards today.
[QUOTE=Sleeping Bag]Have you guys seen these articles? It's a 4-part series on the AMP bust we had seen last year. It explains a bit on the GF closure and other stuff:
1. [url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/06/MNGR1LGUQ41.DTL[/url]
2. [url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/08/MNGAULL53D1.DTL[/url]
3. [url]http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/10/09/MNGM5K215270.DTL[/url]
4. [url]http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/10/MNGN9LFHRO1.DTL[/url]
I feel sorry for the girl. Makes me wonder how many of those girls I banged were slaves. Makes me also angry at those f***king mongers who choke and physically assault these girls. If I ever run into these mongers, I'll beat the living s**t out of them to see how they like it.
Peace![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vegas Baby]This is some very interesting reading. I read this on the california boards today.
1. [url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...MNGR1LGUQ41.DTL[/url]
2. [url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...MNGAULL53D1.DTL[/url]
3. [url]http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c...NGM5K215270.DTL[/url]
4. [url]http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c...MNGN9LFHRO1.DTL[/url][/QUOTE]
Vegas, URLs are not working.
Later,
Vegas
PS...nice name :-)
[QUOTE=Whenin Vegas]Vegas, URLs are not working.
Later,
Vegas
PS...nice name :-)[/QUOTE]
They are working now.
Just tried the links and not working.
'bare
Here you go, kids.
Part 1: [url]http://*******.com/zuvwg[/url]
Part 2: [url]http://*******.com/jwe7n[/url]
Part 3: [url]http://*******.com/z7g5h[/url]
Part 4: [url]http://*******.com/mktbd[/url]
The links from the Vegas Baby post are working OK for me but the first is a little slow to load.
I found these to be a very interesting and well researched set of articles. It is never pretty to see a person forced to compromise their principles or lose their dignity. There are always many social forces at work. Certainly the sex traffickers are guilty of deceit and inflating their expenses, but so are the credit card companies and money lenders. Being born in America I can only imagine what an outsider would be willing to do to come to this country.
If you ask any girl what she wants to be when she grows up, none will say prostitute. Yet every prostitute has experienced her own set of pressures in life, real or imagined. Fortunately the story of You Mi ended with love, relatively good health, US citizenship, and the return of her dignity.
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[QUOTE=Angela30]Did anyone try special experience with 2 real bi sisters?
[url]http://www.lefantasy.com/girl-regular/sisters2.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Nice spam douchebag.
oh shit look at this. The next fucking wave. Vice Squad may have some extra time on their hands now that they have cleaned up Dodge [CT]. We need to stay on top of this. If anybody is using Craigslist make the reports. Anything seems fishy dont go.
Prostitution sting leads to 104 arrests
By Sara Jean Green
Seattle Times staff reporter
Rented furnishings and hidden cameras were among the props Seattle police vice detectives used to arrest 104 men who showed up at a ritzy downtown condo in the past two weeks expecting to pay for sex.
Nearly three-fourths of the men who were arrested on suspicion of patronizing a prostitute responded to postings in the "erotic services" category on craigslist, the free online community where people can search for apartments, jobs, used cars, friends and dates. The rest answered escort ads found in the back pages of The Stranger and Seattle Weekly.
"We wanted to prove craigslist was in fact a vehicle for promoting prostitution," said Lt. Eric Sano, commander of the Seattle Police Department's vice unit.
Escorts and the agencies that represent them have long argued that clients pay only for the companionship of a beautiful woman, Sano said, "but for the most part, that's not how it works."
The vice unit launched its elaborate investigation after receiving numerous community complaints about prostitutes advertising on craigslist, Sano said.
To test the theory, undercover detectives arranged for escorts to meet them in a downtown hotel room on Oct. 19, Sano said. Detectives arrested seven women and a 16-year-old girl who made clear they expected payment for their sexual services, he said.
Vice detectives then turned their attention to men who, instead of cruising the streets for prostitutes, respond to online and newspaper ads looking for sex, he said. To make their ads believable, Sano said, female detectives were photographed in flirty poses, phone lines were established and appointments were set up.
Police discovered "a complete subculture" where men call themselves "hobbyists" and refer to the women they pay for sex as "providers," Sano said Wednesday, the last night of the undercover operation.
"They all know each other and have their own terminology," he said. There are even several online "review boards" where men rate their experiences and describe a woman's looks and the sex acts she's willing to perform, Sano said.
Craig Newmark, who founded craigslist in San Francisco in 1995, said he has heard that "prostitution is a significant problem" on the Web site and noted that craigslist has built a "top-notch" reputation for responding to complaints of illegal activity.
As for the local craigslist review board where men discuss the sexual exploits they paid for, Newmark said those who operate the site are improperly using the craigslist name and that legal action is being discussed by the Seattle-based law firm representing his site.
Craigslist, which is now available in some 300 cities worldwide, doesn't monitor what people post.
"We are a democracy ... and we find we can trust our community," he said. "I don't know what the situation is like in Seattle, but we would prefer that [police] go after violent criminals or crooked congressmen."
At one point, the Seattle police operation was exposed on the craigslist review board and "we had to quickly scramble to get new photos and phone numbers," Sano said. As they waited for men to call, "we cruised craigslist ourselves" and arrested 14 more women on suspicion of prostitution, he said.
"Every hobbyist knows the going rate is at least $150 an hour for 'full service' — which means intercourse and maybe a massage," he said, noting men also "negotiate for extra services," for instance paying an additional $50 to have sex without a condom.
The response was "absolutely wild," Sano said. Even after female detectives upped their price to $200 an hour as part of a Veterans Day special, "we almost had people triple-booked" for appointments, he said.
When a man arrived at the rented condo, he was greeted at the door and ushered inside, Sano said. As other detectives hid in a bedroom watching live footage from hidden cameras, the female detective, posing as "a provider," would engage in a conversation about sex and collect her fee, he said.
Once money had changed hands, Sano said, other officers would then walk out and arrest the man.
All but five of the men were interviewed, cited and released: One man, a registered sex offender, was booked into the King County Jail for violating conditions of his release, three others were booked on drug violations and another on a weapons charge, Sano said.
Arrestees have included "bank presidents, state employees, business owners, construction workers, physicians and surgeons," Sano said.
Though some may argue that prostitution and patronizing a prostitute — both misdemeanors — are victimless crimes, Sano doesn't see it that way: "No young girl grows up dreaming of doing this. These prostitutes are women who have had a rough life, whether they're addicted to drugs, or they've been abused or they have some pimp forcing them into it.
"It is easy money ... but these women are being exploited and it's degrading," he said. "You should hear what some of these guys have asked our detectives to do — it's disgusting."
What one person thinks is disgusting may be a turn on to annother. These cops who arrest people having sex are upset because they cannot yet tax the revenues. They are also jelous because they or their spouses are so up tite they think sex is disgusting.....
Steel Blue
P.S. I also agree that CL is untrustworthy with both LE and weirdo's. I have it first hand someone stole some ones phone, used the number and the girls name then set some people up. Be wary of thoes you do not know.
It seems all of the ads on CL rates are rising. The average now seems to be 250 - 300 for an hour and 400 isn't that unusual to see now also. It used to be you could negociate with the women for the hourly rate. Now if you negociate thet cut the time they spend with you. That makes it even more expensive. A half hour is just enough time to say hello and get her cloths off...
I say boycott all of these providers. Pricing should be 150 for a whole hour and 120 if you have to spring for a room. Yes I know they allways say that they get more because they are better than all of the other women online.
LOL, How can everyone of them be better than the next? I am sticking to my max price line when calling. I also am intensifing my search for reasonablly priced local hotties....
Steel Blue
[QUOTE=Steel Blue]It seems all of the ads on CL rates are rising. The average now seems to be 250 - 300 for an hour and 400 isn't that unusual to see now also. It used to be you could negociate with the women for the hourly rate. Now if you negociate thet cut the time they spend with you. That makes it even more expensive. A half hour is just enough time to say hello and get her cloths off...
I say boycott all of these providers. Pricing should be 150 for a whole hour and 120 if you have to spring for a room. Yes I know they allways say that they get more because they are better than all of the other women online.
LOL, How can everyone of them be better than the next? I am sticking to my max price line when calling. I also am intensifing my search for reasonablly priced local hotties....
Steel Blue[/QUOTE]
Steel -- similar scenario in society: 4/5 of all drivers think they are above average.
[QUOTE=Doctornoct]Steel -- similar scenario in society: 4/5 of all drivers think they are above average.[/QUOTE]
Here's an interesting statistic: 72.54% of all statistics are made up.
I agree don't overpay!
Don't worry folks. I've done all the overpaying everyone ever needs to do. :)
I went out of town recently. Went to AC. Saw an ad for this incredible looking chick on CL. Just researching, I called up and talked to her. Asked specifically, is there ANY upselling? She said no, not at all...though a tip is always appreciated. I was encouraged. For $$ she would be a tasty reward after a hard day at the casinos.
I won a few bills on the tables while there and decided to see her. (Hey, I needed a goal to aim for! Rooms are expensive in AC as it is!)
So, I call her up and she's there in about an hour. She gets out of the Jeep, and its a sight for sore eyes. Body so incredible, my mouth was watering. Wonderous looking skin, long legs, ample buzzom and a face that reminded me of a all the reasons why I need to head to the Costa Rica and retire. Just hot as hell. Even the manager of the hotel saw her and gawked. An Indian guy...he cracks a big ass smile and his eyes are wide. He hands me the key, and I feel like its a fucking trophy.
I take her to the room, prepared to devour...when the big head began to finally take over. This is too damn good to be true.
So, when shes in the room, I ask her once more: Are you going to try to upsell me? Do you kiss?
You know the answers, gentleman.
The big head takes full charge. Her tits are amazing and wonderous looking, but I'm not up for the drama. I tell her the deal is up, cause I don't have time for games. I kick her a $60 bucks (hey, its not mine, I took it from the Casino! LOL), and escort her out. The manager sees me walking her out and he's not shocked at all. The driver is still there and pissed as hell. They start blowing my cell phone up. Oh well...small price to pay for teaching them a lesson. Of course...I'm the one who learned a $110 lesson. Don't pay for the room no matter before she arrives. Never, ever do it. I know better and would never do that around here. But I was out of town and money burning holes and what not. You know how that is.
The chick was amazing looking...and I've had more than my fair share of incredibles for an average joe. But I wasn't going to go through BS that day.
A week later, I blow the $200 getting a HJ from a subpar stripper with nothing to show for it in the end. Not even a new contact for a good fuck later. Nada.
Dammit...I should have not been so cheap in Atlantic City. She was well worth it, considering where the money got wasted on. But I feel like I did the right thing for me then and there.
So like I said...I've overpayed for all of you guys over the years. :) I've got all the receipts.
Thanks stoner, your efforts do not go unnoticed or unapprecitated.
[QUOTE=Stoner]Don't worry folks. I've done all the overpaying everyone ever needs to do. :)
I went out of town recently. Went to AC. Saw an ad for this incredible looking chick on CL. Just researching, I called up and talked to her. Asked specifically, is there ANY upselling? She said no, not at all...though a tip is always appreciated. I was encouraged. For $$ she would be a tasty reward after a hard day at the casinos.
I won a few bills on the tables while there and decided to see her. (Hey, I needed a goal to aim for! Rooms are expensive in AC as it is!)
So, I call her up and she's there in about an hour. She gets out of the Jeep, and its a sight for sore eyes. Body so incredible, my mouth was watering. Wonderous looking skin, long legs, ample buzzom and a face that reminded me of a all the reasons why I need to head to the Costa Rica and retire. Just hot as hell. Even the manager of the hotel saw her and gawked. An Indian guy...he cracks a big ass smile and his eyes are wide. He hands me the key, and I feel like its a fucking trophy.
I take her to the room, prepared to devour...when the big head began to finally take over. This is too damn good to be true.
So, when shes in the room, I ask her once more: Are you going to try to upsell me? Do you kiss?
You know the answers, gentleman.
The big head takes full charge. Her tits are amazing and wonderous looking, but I'm not up for the drama. I tell her the deal is up, cause I don't have time for games. I kick her a $60 bucks (hey, its not mine, I took it from the Casino! LOL), and escort her out. The manager sees me walking her out and he's not shocked at all. The driver is still there and pissed as hell. They start blowing my cell phone up. Oh well...small price to pay for teaching them a lesson. Of course...I'm the one who learned a $110 lesson. Don't pay for the room no matter before she arrives. Never, ever do it. I know better and would never do that around here. But I was out of town and money burning holes and what not. You know how that is.
The chick was amazing looking...and I've had more than my fair share of incredibles for an average joe. But I wasn't going to go through BS that day.
A week later, I blow the $200 getting a HJ from a subpar stripper with nothing to show for it in the end. Not even a new contact for a good fuck later. Nada.
Dammit...I should have not been so cheap in Atlantic City. She was well worth it, considering where the money got wasted on. But I feel like I did the right thing for me then and there.
So like I said...I've overpayed for all of you guys over the years. :) I've got all the receipts.[/QUOTE]
I've already started. If it's more than an AMP, it's too much.
[QUOTE=Carl White]I've already started. If it's more than an AMP, it's too much.[/QUOTE]Anyone ever notice that all the local escorts in CT, like all the ones listed in the TBD directy are all charging $400 an hour ? I have to laugh because I used to see some of these girls as a regular at $250 an hour and now they all/most have thier rates set at $400/hour. For that kind of scratch you better be in your 20's a knockout and have no limits, those of you hobbyists familiar with the CT local gals know that most of these gals are pushing 40 and just can't match up to the traveling florida sunshine that comes through monthly to CT/Westchester to the tune of $300/hour. Don't get me wrong the local ladies some of them are a great time, super gfe's, but I would love to know who's paying these girls $400/hour. Be smart...don't cave to the new rates.
[QUOTE=Steel Blue]It seems all of the ads on CL rates are rising. The average now seems to be 250 - 300 for an hour and 400 isn't that unusual to see now also. It used to be you could negociate with the women for the hourly rate. Now if you negociate thet cut the time they spend with you. That makes it even more expensive. A half hour is just enough time to say hello and get her cloths off...
I say boycott all of these providers. Pricing should be 150 for a whole hour and 120 if you have to spring for a room. Yes I know they allways say that they get more because they are better than all of the other women online.
LOL, How can everyone of them be better than the next? I am sticking to my max price line when calling. I also am intensifing my search for reasonablly priced local hotties....
Steel Blue[/QUOTE]
Welcome to Craigslist, the Real story.. Spam, Scam, and SCRAM!!
the entire list is flooded with junk! and I do mean [u][b]JUNK[/b][/u]!! it's hardly worth it..
Occational places like Our Place, etc.. but otherwise, why bother..
I for one, and joining my co-worker, and scrapping it from my bookmark list.
Wanderer --:Those who wander, aren't necessarily lost!
[QUOTE=Forbin]Anyone ever notice that all the local escorts in CT, like all the ones listed in the TBD directy are all charging $400 an hour ? I have to laugh because I used to see some of these girls as a regular at $250 an hour and now they all/most have thier rates set at $400/hour. For that kind of scratch you better be in your 20's a knockout and have no limits, those of you hobbyists familiar with the CT local gals know that most of these gals are pushing 40 and just can't match up to the traveling florida sunshine that comes through monthly to CT/Westchester to the tune of $300/hour. Don't get me wrong the local ladies some of them are a great time, super gfe's, but I would love to know who's paying these girls $400/hour. Be smart...don't cave to the new rates.[/QUOTE]
To my knowledge, there's NO local in CT worth 350-400/hr.
Prime example is HeavinLeigh. She started on CL @ 250. Within a month of exposure on the Dog, she zoomed to 300 then 350. She's a good value for 250 but not 350.
Remember, the number one rule of marketing is to raise the price. You have to catch the newbies at ground level and become grandfathered if you like repeating.
[QUOTE=Big Mac Daddy]To my knowledge, there's NO local in CT worth 350-400/hr.
Prime example is HeavinLeigh. She started on CL @ 250. Within a month of exposure on the Dog, she zoomed to 300 then 350. She's a good value for 250 but not 350.
Remember, the number one rule of marketing is to raise the price. You have to catch the newbies at ground level and become grandfathered if you like repeating.[/QUOTE]I hear that, I got a stripper that I got it for free first night and now I get it for free as many times I want pretty much when I want. And the greatest part about it is she even puts me on to other females at her place that I'm interested in, free of charge of course. I'm living the life!
Aren't you lucky!
[QUOTE=Bpt Citi Swing]I hear that, I got a stripper that I got it for free first night and now I get it for free as many times I want pretty much when I want. And the greatest part about it is she even puts me on to other females at her place that I'm interested in, free of charge of course. I'm living the life![/QUOTE]
Hey man sounds great, can you share this info with senior members [which club or girls] by PM?
Thanks for sharin, Lucky Dawg!
[url]http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/187228,CST-NWS-johns27.article[/url]
Cops say spa's hidden cameras may have broadcast sex acts over the Internet
December 27, 2006
BY ANNIE SWEENEY Crime Reporter
Patrons of a Northwest Side massage parlor may have had their visits with prostitutes broadcast over the Internet, police said.
Based on statements from a woman who worked there and the sophistication of computer equipment seized from V.I.P. Salon & Day Spa, police believe sex acts might have been transmitted from small, curtained cubicles onto the Web, said Jefferson Park District Cmdr. Ralph Price.
Officers found tiny cameras mounted in the ceiling of several rooms at V.I.P.
"It's gone beyond just prostitution," Price said. "What you think may be private could be all over the place."
Investigators with the Vice Control Section said they had not heard of any similar computer set-up at other places of prostitution in the city.
"Really, this is kind of unchartered territory for us," said Lt. Paul Kusinski.
Price said the V.I.P. Salon at 4422 N. Milwaukee -- where customers have to be buzzed in -- has been a longtime problem for the neighborhood.
Chicago vice officers have raided the business seven or eight times over the past 18 months, and the city has filed complaints against the business, police said. The landlord of the business also filed a lawsuit in January 2006 seeking to evict the business owner, according to Cook County records.
The owner could not be reached for comment.
Charges stemming from the police raids were typically never more than misdemeanors. But now Chicago Police and the Cook County state's attorney's office are seeking more serious charges against the owner and manager for the alleged unlawful videotaping.
Price -- who has done premise checks himself on the business because of complaints -- said he hopes this latest raid will rid the neighborhood of V.I.P. for good.
"Finally, we can shut this guy down," Price said. "This could be the nail in the coffin."
Price's officers got their break on Dec. 20 when someone placed a 911 call to report that a woman at the business was screaming.
When officers arrived, a sergeant pulled back a curtain on two cubicles to find men having sex with women. But officers then spotted something else -- a pinhole camera in the ceiling.
"We followed all the wires," Price said. "They all went to a central computer."
Real money online: female suspect
One of the women arrested told police they charged the men for sex acts, but the real money was made from the share of profits from broadcasting on the Internet, Price said.
The officers obtained a search warrant, which was executed the next morning, Price said. The computer's hard drive was seized and will be analyzed, and police photographed all the cameras and the wires leading to the server.
The raid resulted in four people being charged, including a 20-year-old man for patronizing a place of prostitution, two women -- 39 and 20 -- for solicitation and a 51-year-old man for keeping a place of prostitution.