[QUOTE=Wastrel]... (and one hippo)[/QUOTE] Thanks for the Report Wastrel I missed heading out this weekend; but afternoon early evenings it's all Hippos most of the time down there when I check.
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[QUOTE=Wastrel]... (and one hippo)[/QUOTE] Thanks for the Report Wastrel I missed heading out this weekend; but afternoon early evenings it's all Hippos most of the time down there when I check.
The hippo wore Spandex. That should not be legal. A public health issue; made me feel sick just passing by.
A number of weeks ago, she had a CL ad if I recall correctly. Anyways, I'd love to give this one a try! If you got the number, please share.
[QUOTE=socalasian]Looks like the price of admission has gone up... bummer...
Pics in a previous post...
Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bob Mantis]What's more, the FKK scene is LEGAL in Germany. No LE to deal with. FKK means "freie korper kulture" -- basically nudist culture. There are many FKKs in Germany, but the ones in Frankfurt are convenient to get to from the airport, so you can go there, if you have a stopover.
The last time I was there, I stayed one night. Needless to say, I didn't spend much of the night in my hotel. I was in the Palace FKK until 4 am, then took public transport to the airport after two hours sleep. I had three of the most beautiful women in the world in just a few hours. If I were really penny pinching, I would not have paid for the hotel. I would have just stored my baggage at the central railway station, taken the public transport to the FFK, spent the night just having a ball, and picked up my luggage on the way back to the airport the next morning. I would have had dinner at the FKK, since it's free, so saved on food costs.
If you want to stay in a hotel, it's not expensive at the Ibis Hotel's. They are like the Motel 6 of the US, only better. The cost is in the range of $60 to $70 per night. Smaller rooms, but cleaner than Motel 6 rooms. So, staying in Europe does not have to be expensive. The Ibis near the Palace FKK is just three friggin' blocks from the Palace, and you can get to the hotel from the airport on public transport (not expensive, and I did the last time I was there). Being able to speak German is not necessary to get around Germany or in the FKK. In the FKK almost all the women speak English. If you need more detailed info, check the internationalsexguide website. Or PM me. I'll be there again in April.
Oh, and did I forget to mention: Many of the women there are dropdead gorgeous. Believe me, when I say that, cuz I have a hangup about looks.[/QUOTE]
Bob,
Thanks for the info, at the end of the month I'm heading to Barcelona, Paris and Frankfurt for some euro-mongering action...any other info would be greatly appreciated.
Maloso
Maloso
Barcelona is another great monger destination. I was there three years ago. Check out the ISG site. I have recently been to Paris too, but was too busy to partake. I still think the best place is Frankfurt and its FKKs. Enjoy and report back!
[QUOTE=Maloso1]Bob,
Thanks for the info, at the end of the month I'm heading to Barcelona, Paris and Frankfurt for some euro-mongering action...any other info would be greatly appreciated.
Maloso[/QUOTE]
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1596778&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312[/url]
[QUOTE=Bob Mantis]Maloso
Barcelona is another great monger destination. I was there three years ago. Check out the ISG site. I have recently been to Paris too, but was too busy to partake. I still think the best place is Frankfurt and its FKKs. Enjoy and report back![/QUOTE]
Barcelona is an amazing city...for a variety of reasons. :)
Have FUN!
Joe
Hottie Gallery Had action today, 12-1 pm.
About 7-8 decent girls 2 real cuties and 1 Super Ho;
Dressed like a W h o r e, short skirt, stockings, high boots and tiny top. The pig shut it down later but it was showing signs. I hope it has the same action at night.
Need some help here, trying to search for best action but not sure about the addresses. I have an overnight layover at LAX and planning to stay at an airport hotel, what are my best options? Any incall recommended? Thanks a lot beforehand.
I havent seen any pattern or set time on the pig, but it seems to me that it is a guessing game on when the sw's will be out. I've seen them at around midnite, sunrise, midday, and also during rush hour.
I mostly see them around morning time, but unfortunately on various days.
[QUOTE=loco88]Need some help here, trying to search for best action but not sure about the addresses. I have an overnight layover at LAX and planning to stay at an airport hotel, what are my best options? Any incall recommended? Thanks a lot beforehand.[/QUOTE]
Best option for cost vs value is one of the following:
1.) Search CL before you arrive in Los Angeles. Lots of CL girls stay near LAX. You will be able to call them and meet them in the bar or lobby in your hotel. Do real reasearch as there are tons of ROB's on CL.
2.) Get a one month subscription to t-e-r and do a search of girls near LAX. Pick out a few you like that are well reviewed and make calls once you arrive in Los Angeles.
I've gotten 22 PM's asking me how I hook up for $50 at AMP condos. Guess what... I don't...
Get this through your heads please...
.5 = $50
$ = $100
$.5 = $150
$$ = $200
$$.5 = $250
Do you understand? Geez...
Do some research before you send dumb ass PM's and don't ask for 8 phone numbers for 8 different girls and apartments if you name looks like this:
IlliterateOne
Regular Member
Reports: 0
Gotta rant on a Monday... 22 PM's- two worth reading...
Happy Hunting!
[QUOTE=socalasian]I've gotten 22 PM's asking me how I hook up for $50 at AMP condos. Guess what... I don't...
Get this through your heads please...
.5 = $50
$ = $100
$.5 = $150
$$ = $200
$$.5 = $250
[/QUOTE]
These coded prices are only fooling the newbies as you are finding out. They sure don't fool LE or anyone else anymore, if that was the original intent. They may have served a purpose at its inception... for about a week or two anyway, if at that. I don't see a purpose for using it anymore. If it's $150, then it should be stated as $150 unless I'm overlooking something else.
Ivel
[QUOTE=Ivel]These coded prices are only fooling the newbies as you are finding out. They sure don't fool LE or anyone else anymore, if that was the original intent. They may have served a purpose at its inception, for about a week or two anyway, if at that. I don't see a purpose for using it anymore. If it's $150, then it should be stated as $150 unless I'm overlooking something else.
Ivel[/QUOTE]Hear, hear!
[QUOTE=Joey Roastbeef]Hear, hear![/QUOTE]
STFU officer Joey Pigface!
[QUOTE=Ivel]These coded prices are only fooling the newbies as you are finding out. They sure don't fool LE or anyone else anymore, if that was the original intent. They may have served a purpose at its inception... for about a week or two anyway, if at that. I don't see a purpose for using it anymore. If it's $150, then it should be stated as $150 unless I'm overlooking something else [/QUOTE]
Every profession , field of endeavor , and hobby has a specialized vocabulary [ a.k.a. " Lingo " ]
It's not meant to confuse or obfuscate = it's just a form of verbal short·hand
Here's the [URL='http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=347868&postcount=1']Terms and Abbreviations List[/URL] for Our little 'Hobby'
Zombie,
I see your point. I am aware and familiar with the lingo. I just keep seeing this same question about $$s surface frequently, so it is still confusing the newbies who probably don't know about the "abreviations" either.
The term "STFU" is not on that list by the way, but it's not hard to figure that one out. LOL
Ivel
[QUOTE=Joe Monger]STFU officer Joey Pigface![/QUOTE]Was that really necessary? Just givin' my 2 cents.
[url]http://www.fbi.gov/publications/leb/1997/oct972.htm[/url]
Caller ID: Maintaining Investigative Security
By David P. Williams
Investigators should take precautions in response to the growth of caller identification services.
Mr. Williams serves with the Electronic Surveillance Unit, Office of Investigations, at the U.S. Customs Service headquarters in Woodbridge, Virginia.
The telephone has become such a staple of modern life that few people give it a second thought. When callers pick up the receiver, it is doubtful they consider the millions of signals being routed through switching stations that their call is about to join. They just know that when they want to check in with a family member across town or a business associate across an ocean, they only need to pick up the telephone. Even when power goes out in a community, the telephones generally continue to work. So, it might be easy to take this workhorse of the information age for granted.
However, advances in telephone service options--most notably caller identification services--require that law enforcement agencies take a close look at how they use the telephone. The growing prevalence of caller identification services (generally referred to as caller ID) dictates that investigators take special precautions, especially during undercover operations.
Caller ID: Help or Hindrance
As its name implies, the caller ID device displays the originating telephone number of an incoming call, allowing the recipient to know, before answering the call, the number of the party calling.
For law enforcement, caller ID has proven to be a valuable intelligence tool. When investigators install a court-authorized wiretap or dialed number recorder on a telephone line, for instance, they also generally request caller ID. With caller ID on the line, investigators not only know whom the targeted subject calls but also who calls the subject.
Investigators also can include a suspect's caller ID device on a search warrant request. A properly worded search warrant allows investigators to seize the caller ID box and thus obtain an accurate record of the last 25 to 100 calls received by the subject.
Nevertheless, despite its benefits, caller ID poses some potentially serious problems for the police. Critics claim that it invades citizens' privacy. There are also concerns that caller ID may reduce the number of calls to police crime tip lines, crisis centers, and suicide and abuse hotlines. For law enforcement agencies, concerns primarily revolve around the effects caller ID and related services have on undercover operations. By understanding the functions of these services, however, investigators can develop strategies to maintain telephone security during investigations.
THE MECHANICS OF CALLER ID
Caller ID comes in two forms. Basic caller ID (sometimes referred to as single message) represents the first generation of caller identification services, widely available since the early 1980s. During the last several years, telephone companies have been converting to enhanced caller ID (also known as deluxe or multimessage).
The primary difference between the two systems is the amount of information provided about the originating telephone call. While basic service provides only the caller's telephone number and the date and time of the call, enhanced service supplies this information, as well as the name and in some cases, the address of the caller.
Regardless of which form of caller ID serves a particular locality, the mechanics of its operation remain the same. The local telephone company attaches caller ID at its central office after the originating call has been placed. This makes it nearly impossible for the caller to trick or defeat the system.
Once the caller ID codes have been attached, the caller's identifying information is routed on the line with the call itself to the destination telephone. Caller ID information reaches the receiving telephone between the first and second rings. If a call is answered before or during caller ID delivery, the answering party will not receive the data.
CALL BLOCKING
If a caller has installed call blocking--an optional service to prevent transmission of the originating telephone number and other identifying information--this request is attached at the central telephone office after the commands for caller ID have been attached. When the call reaches the central office for the area serving the destination telephone, the office handles caller ID according to local programming. If the party at the destination telephone has paid for caller ID services, identifying information from the originating call will be sent.
If a call blocking command has been attached by the party making the call, the call will go through but the identifying information will not be relayed. Instead, a message indicating that all identifying information has been blocked will accompany the call. Generally, the word "private" or some variation appears on the caller ID screen, notifying the recipient that the caller has concealed the originating telephone number.
AVAILABILITY
Newly relaxed regulations and advances in technology soon will make caller ID and related services available on a much larger scale. Until recently, regional telephone companies dictated local service availability. Often, parties with caller ID would receive an "out of area" message, indicating that an incoming call was being placed from a locality that did not relay caller identification information.
In December 1995, the Federal Communications Commission allowed caller ID services to be relayed nationwide. As telephone companies gradually expand service availability, caller ID will become a truly national system. Already, there are indications that caller ID will be offered on a worldwide basis in the not-too-distant future.
Rapidly advancing technology also has enabled carriers to offer caller ID services on calls originating from sources that were once immune, including cellular and pay telephones. As with calls from localities that do not pass caller ID, calls from these types of telephones previously would relay an "out of area" message. Now, calls placed from cellular or pay telephones, as well as long-distance calls paid for via credit or phone cards, may provide identifying information to the party being called.
In fact, some firms that specialize in emerging technologies heavily promote their caller identification capabilities. The newest competition to cellular service, personal communications systems (PCS), pass identifying information in both directions. A screen on the handset lets users know the originating telephone number of the party calling them. Likewise, callers using PCS will pass on their identifying information to anyone with a PCS unit or caller ID. PCS users do not need to activate caller ID service separately; the caller identification features are included in the basic service contract.
With expanding caller identification services, law enforcement agencies should study the various methods available to respond to the threats posed to undercover investigations. Because no single antidote exists for every situation, investigators should be aware of the broad range of possible countermeasures to caller ID.
COUNTERMEASURES TO CALLER ID
Given the dramatic growth of caller ID and the impracticality of determining whether an individual has this service option before a call is placed, investigators should assume every subject can identify them when they call. Although caller ID cannot be defeated after a call is placed, investigators can minimize its effects.
Call Blocking
While placing call blocking on the originating telephone line may be the most obvious countermeasure, certain features of this service make it less than practical for undercover operations. As discussed, a message will alert the party on the receiving end that the caller has placed a block on the outgoing line. Such a signal could further inflame the suspicions of an already wary subject.
Then, because call block commands are attached to a call after the caller ID commands, investigators must gamble that the commands--sometimes routed by two different telephone companies--are attached properly. If not, a call from the police station could be routed unblocked to a subject. While such mishaps are extremely rare, just one could prove disastrous. In response to widespread concerns about privacy issues surrounding caller ID, telephone companies have developed more specialized call blocking features. Per-call blocking defeats delivery of caller ID on a call-by-call basis; per-line blocking defeats caller ID on a specific outgoing telephone line.
In most areas where these features have been introduced, however, the local telephone carrier also offers service options to counter call blocking. The anonymous call rejection feature automatically routes calls with call blocking to a recording that advises callers to dial again without blocking caller ID.
Some state and local governments have arranged with telephone companies to provide call blocking features only for government lines. Still, whether in a general form or on a per-call or per-line basis, call blocking might not provide the stealth necessary for undercover operations. If, however, a law enforcement agency decides to use call blocking in any of its forms, investigators must be careful to ensure that it is attached properly. In some areas, telephone companies use the same code to block caller ID as they do to cancel the block. This can become an especially confusing issue with per-line blocking. When investigators enter the blocking code on a particular line, the end result actually may be to reactivate caller ID on a line where it previously had been blocked. To avoid such scenarios, investigators should not rely on call blocking.
Credit or Phone Cards
While placing calls using a credit or phone card has, in the past, been a fairly safe way to defeat caller ID, investigators cannot assume that these tactics will continue to work every time. An increasing number of telephone companies have begun to relay some type of identifying information via calls placed with credit and phone cards. Telephone companies also may periodically test new features, intermittently relaying identifying information on a limited number of calls before fully engaging a system.
It is increasingly dangerous for investigators to assume that a credit or phone card call will not betray their identities to parties with caller ID. Recent reports indicate that some calls routed by a particular carrier would display "U.S. Government" when placed with a government credit card. Revelations of this type pose obvious dangers both to investigations and investigators.
Pay Telephones
Investigators should remember the limitations of using pay telephones to defeat caller ID. Today, most pay phones relay caller ID information. Industrious subjects can use databases (available to the public) that show the location of each pay phone in a given city to pinpoint a caller's location. One investigator described a case where he called a subject from a pay telephone. While they were still talking, the subject tracked the investigator's position and went to the phone booth shortly after the call.
Investigators should be aware that although a call placed from a pay telephone will not show the caller's name and address, it may show the caller's location. A call placed from a phone booth outside the police station or federal building may be just as disruptive to a case as a call placed from the office telephone.
Undercover Lines
Agencies can use telephone lines dedicated solely to undercover operations. However, regardless of what name is on file, the telephone company will maintain a record of the physical location of the telephone. To enhance security, agency administrators should work with telephone company officials to ensure that the billing address does not reflect a law enforcement connection. The computer containing the wiring information still will connect to the actual location of the telephone, no matter where the bill is sent.
Call Diverters
A device called a call diverter represents one of the more effective countermeasures to caller ID. These devices forward outgoing calls from one telephone line to another, effectively masking the identity of the original caller. By enabling agencies to forward calls at the source, these devices offer more security than call forwarding and other services available from the telephone company.
Units cost between $400 and $5,000, depending on the features included, but may prove well worth the investment for agencies that engage regularly in undercover operations. Investigators should be able to obtain detailed information about call diverters from their agency's electronic surveillance support unit.
Testing Caller ID Availability
Regardless of what technical countermeasure investigators employ to defeat caller ID, they should periodically make test calls from the telephone they normally use for undercover operations to monitor how caller ID is being handled in a particular area. By calling a telephone equipped with caller ID, investigators can determine what type of identifying information is being relayed via the telephone lines. Calling the local telephone company is not a good indicator; customer service representatives do not always know what specific information is relayed at any given time because, among other reasons, technicians frequently activate new features for testing purposes. However, even conducting regular tests does not ensure security because a subject may have different caller ID capabilities than the investigator's test line.
AUTOMATIC NUMBER IDENTIFICATION
Like much of the general population, many investigators might be unfamiliar with automatic number identification (ANI). Intended for use primarily by businesses, ANI provides subscribers with a wealth of identifying information concerning callers. As is the case with caller ID, this service option poses potential security problems for investigators.
Despite its obscurity, ANI actually predates caller ID. The systems serve similar purposes, but unlike caller ID, ANI coding is sent on a separate wire, rather than with the call itself. ANI is available only on numbers beginning with either 800, 888, 900, or 911 or a 976 exchange. Businesses routinely use ANI to gather information on their callers for billing purposes. There is no way to block ANI delivery.
In the wrong hands, ANI can provide criminals with personal information about anyone placing a call to them. During a recent case, a law enforcement officer used an 800 number to access a sub-ject's personal pager. The officer punched in a telephone number different from the one he was calling from for the subject to call. But, because the subject's pager service tracked ANI data and forwarded it to subscribers, the subject was able to tell the officer the number of the telephone from which he originally called.
Because telephone companies do not offer services to counteract ANI, law enforcement agencies must rely on alternate methods to safeguard security. While call diverters represent the most effective countermeasure against ANI, given their cost and impracticality for use during many fast-paced investigative scenarios, investigators cannot rely on them to ensure security for every situation.
CONCLUSION
While it might be easy to take the telephone for granted, law enforcement agencies cannot afford to become complacent about telephone security. Evolving caller ID services represent a potentially serious threat to undercover operations for law enforcement agencies in an increasing number of communities around the country.
By developing a flexible array of countermeasures, agencies can minimize the dangers posed by caller ID. Investigators must remember that no countermeasure can be guaranteed effective for every situation. Instead, they should take precautions and be prepared for any problem that might arise from breaches of security due to caller ID. After all, the security of law enforcement operations is on the line.
Tonight there was about 8 sw's on figueroa around 3-4am, only 4 were worth paying any attention to.(the other 4 looked a bit strung out). Two of them were 6's and the last two were at least 8's. They were found mostly North of Manchester. The last two were frikkin hot as hell, but of course there was a line of mongers waiting to get a piece!
Has anyone been to either of these establishments? Is the 150 really all inclusive? Does it mean multiples? Is it even worth going?
Please Help
Hi All,
I haven't visited California in like 4 years but, I remember there are some really good places to go to here. Anyone have any suggestions? Willing to spend $.50 or so, for the full experience. Oh and I do prefer anyone from the age range of 20 ~ 30. Thanks in advance all. Please PM me if you feel more comfortable that way.
WSW's Dee,(a cleaned up) Aryanna, Molly, Tatianna (attitude holds her back from being really cool), LSW MAyra, all downtown lately. All you have to do is look.
gentlemen,
finally, managed to score. found a bbw (latina), met her and did the deed. damage was $260 (i know, its way over the top) but had to release after all the month's of holding up. it was the best gfe ever, deep throat, bbbj, with unending mouth-work ending in completion with swallow. more bbbj and doggy ensued and i couldnt finish twice in an hour. will surely return sometime soon. hope this helps.
Pretty good selection Friday night on Figueroa, (I Know I'm posting a little late, sorry) I saw about 6 sw's, only 4 worth mentioning.
One super hot LSW, about a 9 looks and body north of Manchester, but she was gone before I could even think about turning around. The other three were either LSW's or BSW's. I couldnt really tell but still, pretty hot. All were found north of Slauson, and all had pretty big booties! I would rate them at about 7-8's. I couldnt tell how good the racks were due to the big jackets they all had on. So, I turned around to get a better look, but a few others got to them first. Oh well! Better luck next time.
[QUOTE=Trajik]Pretty good selection Friday night on Figueroa, (I Know I'm posting a little late, sorry) I saw about 6 sw's, only 4 worth mentioning.
One super hot LSW, about a 9 looks and body north of Manchester, but she was gone before I could even think about turning around. The other three were either LSW's or BSW's. I couldnt really tell but still, pretty hot. All were found north of Slauson, and all had pretty big booties! I would rate them at about 7-8's. I couldnt tell how good the racks were due to the big jackets they all had on. So, I turned around to get a better look, but a few others got to them first. Oh well! Better luck next time.[/QUOTE]
I cruised hottie gallery one time on late Saturday night. Nothing out but 3 pigmobiles. I bailed real quick.
That's a little too sobering, Webcams. Action's been very dry on Fig for the past week... mostly cuz the weather's been wet. But I'm still getting mine.
Peace
Hey Webcams---hit a few less locals, save some gas money, and buy a cheap ticket to Amsterdam!
Actually, I'm pulling your chain. For anyone else who might be wondering, Amsterdam and their Red Light District is not much more than an over-rated tourist trap. For 20-25 Washingtons (ha!) you get a quickie 10-15 minute pop with an ice-cold pro, in a closet on a rock hard "bed". No extras. No hugs. No smiles. No real pre-play. And relentless "upselling" is the name of the game in the R.L.D---for CBJ, for "doggie", for everything you might want besides a quick dip of the stick! Basically, the girls are just bored with the whole scene and their service shows it. It's "hurry up and cum" from the first minute you enter the sad little room. If you think TJ is cold and quick...this is worse!
I've been in Amsterdam 2 times (for other reasons than mongering!) and found the scene to be a yawn. And believe me--I checked out every little nook and cranny in the place! I was forever hopeful, but soon I was as bored as the girls! Guys, PLEASE TAKE NOTE...this is what will happen if prostitution is legalized! As the expression goes: "Be careful for what you wish for!"
If you're a pothead....there is that too, which might make it interesting for some.
Anyone have a different experience? Love to hear...or will I be flamed for being on the wrong board? If so, sorry and forget it. Just ignore. Thanks.
#2128
[QUOTE=Member #2128]...soon I was as bored as the girls! Guys, PLEASE TAKE NOTE...this is what will happen if prostitution is legalized! As the expression goes: "Be careful for what you wish for!"...[/QUOTE]Well yeah, you might get flamed here for that, but if so I'll give you a little company while you get your tootsies burned. I've always found the incessant weeping and whining about the fact that it's not legal (duh) silly to the point of childishness, and I'm not at all sure legalization is something I'd want to see even if I was so delusional and out of touch with reality that I actually hallucinated that there was any support at all for doing that. The experiment has been tried of course, not just there but also in the USA right now, and the results are not very appealing.
In case someone forgot, there are totally legal gov't regulated brothels in the US within half a day's drive or so of the California population centers, and a few hours or less from Vegas, and everyone stays away in droves, for the excellent reasons you mention when describing your experience in Amsterdam. By most accounts it resembles all the fun of a trip to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles to pay excise tax on a car purchase, except it's even more expensive.
Or, do an online search sometime to check out the excruciating list of politically correct antiseptic rules recently promulgated to regulate legalized service in New Zealand, and then see if it's still possible to try to remember that there's actually supposed to be sex involved in there somewhere. It sounds more like a trip to a dentist's office. Legalization and government control does to sex what public housing projects do to communities: ugh, yuck, nobody wants to go near there if they can possibly avoid it.
It's not legal most most places on earth, but it's widely available informally for those capable of conducting themselves with a minimal amount of discretion so as not to make a public pest of themselves, and that may be the best circumstance that can be hoped for with something that is considered distasteful to more than 90% of the population in every culture that's ever existed everywhere on earth.
[QUOTE=Wastrel]It's not legal most most places on earth, but it's widely available informally for those capable of conducting themselves with a minimal amount of discretion so as not to make a public pest of themselves, and that may be the best circumstance that can be hoped for with something that is considered distasteful to more than 90% of the population in every culture that's ever existed everywhere on earth.[/QUOTE]
I thought 90% of the population was on the buying end at one point or another :) , Legalization will never come about in Los Angeles, But I am against making it a Top Priortiy, I see way to much just driving down the street, to think that S/W's are the root of all evil as local LE has made them out to be.
[QUOTE=Member #2128]
I've been in Amsterdam 2 times (for other reasons than mongering!) and found the scene to be a yawn. And believe me--I checked out every little nook and cranny in the place! I was forever hopeful, but soon I was as bored as the girls! Guys, PLEASE TAKE NOTE...this is what will happen if prostitution is legalized! As the expression goes: "Be careful for what you wish for!" [/QUOTE]
Further proof that if they really wanted to get rid of us they'd leagalize it. I think service varies greatly by culture. I had my first [i]real escort[/i] in Barcelona where prostitution is handled very much like in Mexico. Out in the open, ect. This girl was amazing, a tiny bit older than me, I spent the better part of a day with her and I swear (Call me any names you want. I don't give a fuck.) I almost cried after I left. Imagine "Before Sunrise" but with mad sex. I'm going to hit Rio next year for sure. Those pictures and stories on the ISG site have got my head spinning. I'm just afraid I'll never come back. ;)
Joe
Hi guys,
I truley honor the opinion of all those senior members, but with all due respect, I have to completely disagree on this one.
Amsterdam, and especially the red light district is a really bad example, since it is just what you said: a tourist trap. No local would go to those places. I am from Europe and have my fair share of 'legal sex' over there. There are tourist traps all over Europe. Another very good example is Hamburg (lived there for four years). DO NOT pick up any streetwalker on the Reeperbahn or go into any of those establishments in that same district. Gorgeous girls, but upsell and 200 Euro for 10 min. bj.
There is plenty other places and private appartements where you easily get one hour with multiple pops for less than 100 Euro and this includes the best GFE.
They have tons of forums where all this is discussed (same as this one).
Legalization of prostitution is the right way to go, you still have to watch out and don't be completely guided by little Jonny (It's really hard when a playboy playmate promises you sex for 50 on the Reeperbahn).
Baldy, a shout out to my favorite member, been following your reports.
[QUOTE=Member #2128]Hey Webcams---hit a few less locals, save some gas money, and buy a cheap ticket to Amsterdam!
Actually, I'm pulling your chain. For anyone else who might be wondering, Amsterdam and their Red Light District is not much more than an over-rated tourist trap. For 20-25 Washingtons (ha!) you get a quickie 10-15 minute pop with an ice-cold pro, in a closet on a rock hard "bed". No extras. No hugs. No smiles. No real pre-play. And relentless "upselling" is the name of the game in the R.L.D---for CBJ, for "doggie", for everything you might want besides a quick dip of the stick! Basically, the girls are just bored with the whole scene and their service shows it. It's "hurry up and cum" from the first minute you enter the sad little room. If you think TJ is cold and quick...this is worse!
I've been in Amsterdam 2 times (for other reasons than mongering!) and found the scene to be a yawn. And believe me--I checked out every little nook and cranny in the place! I was forever hopeful, but soon I was as bored as the girls! Guys, PLEASE TAKE NOTE...this is what will happen if prostitution is legalized! As the expression goes: "Be careful for what you wish for!"
If you're a pothead....there is that too, which might make it interesting for some.
Anyone have a different experience? Love to hear...or will I be flamed for being on the wrong board? If so, sorry and forget it. Just ignore. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Member #2128]Amsterdam and their Red Light District is not much more than an over-rated tourist trap. For 20-25 Washingtons (ha!) you get a quickie 10-15 minute pop with an ice-cold pro, in a closet on a rock hard "bed". No extras. No hugs. No smiles. No real pre-play. And relentless "upselling" is the name of the game in the R.L.D---for CBJ, for "doggie", for everything you might want besides a quick dip of the stick! Basically, the girls are just bored with the whole scene and their service shows it. It's "hurry up and cum" from the first minute you enter the sad little room. If you think TJ is cold and quick...this is worse!
I've been in Amsterdam 2 times (for other reasons than mongering!) and found the scene to be a yawn. And believe me--I checked out every little nook and cranny in the place! I was forever hopeful, but soon I was as bored as the girls!
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I had the same experience in Amsterdam; boring.
Based on what I've read my next trip would be to Argentina. Blonde/blue eyed latinas, mmm....
hello all
successfully completed a 2nd round of P4P. got the yahoo id of the old chinese woman in chinatown who provided massage with happy ending for $80. met her, got a reasonably OK massage and a bad HJ. i touched her all over and she said, please dont touch under the clothes, lol. she also mentioned that i could kiss her if she likes me in future, lol, i wasn't going to fall for that trap. she looked very good for her age, had soft and flawless skin. she tried to fool me by saying she was 'korean', i just laughed and she asked ' dont you believe me' ? lol, i laughed further and she went 'chinese look better than koreans, i am from beijing' , i shook my head to say 'no - koreans look very attractive', to which she resigned and continued with the work on hand.
i agree with those that say prostitution should be legalised. look at UK, germany and some other countries in europe, (portugal?) you feel like going there immediately after reading those reports.
for the kind of $ we spend here in usa and the kind of 'shitty' service we get, its not really worth it.
Figueroa has been off and on. The sw's are usually out for only a little while before most of you have noticed that LE comes sweeping in with about 2-3 cruisers. It looks like one will drive by and spot sw's and mongers without slowing down, making it look like they are going somewhere else, while the other(s) will wait until things look "safe" for sw's to come out and get picked up by mongers.
It kind of sucks, cause I've seen some pretty hot sw's (8-9's by my scale) the other night. Unfortunately LE was all over them.
[QUOTE=HK Man]hello all
i agree with those that say prostitution should be legalised. look at UK, germany and some other countries in europe, (portugal?) you feel like going there immediately after reading those reports.
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Prostitution is also legal in the wonderful country of Australia. The Aussie's have their priorities in order when it comes to there very sensible laws. As a result, crime there is virtually non-existant and yet it is far from a police-state. Beautiful blonde girls with that sexy accent, don't act like a moron and no one hassles you. The country itself is just beautiful and the people are perhaps the most down to earth and relaxed there are in the world. Plus everyone speaks English (sort of) so you don't have that obstacle either.
I highly recommend visiting/moving there. It's going to be at least a generation from not until the USA gets it's head out of it's ass with regard to our Puritanical approach to social regulation and our insanely hypocritical and backwards policies that emerge from that mindset.
[QUOTE=monster cock][QUOTE=HK Man]hello all
i agree with those that say prostitution should be legalised. look at UK, germany and some other countries in europe, (portugal?) you feel like going there immediately after reading those reports.
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Prostitution is also legal in the wonderful country of Australia. The Aussie's have their priorities in order when it comes to there very sensible laws. As a result, crime there is virtually non-existant and yet it is far from a police-state. Beautiful blonde girls with that sexy accent, don't act like a moron and no one hassles you. The country itself is just beautiful and the people are perhaps the most down to earth and relaxed there are in the world. Plus everyone speaks English (sort of) so you don't have that obstacle either.
I highly recommend visiting/moving there. It's going to be at least a generation from not until the USA gets it's head out of it's ass with regard to our Puritanical approach to social regulation and our insanely hypocritical and backwards policies that emerge from that mindset.[/QUOTE]
At the risk of repeating myself, we need to work to get the laws CHANGED HERE!!
Saw on the news that the police had 6 or so vehicles with an aim for 10. Made a big production of it. Van Nuys area. How does this help exactly? The guy from the tv (cop) said that parents taking their kids to school had to explain what was happening between the johns and the hookers. Perhaps if what they were doing was legal, they could actually open up shop like in other countries. There, problem solved.
[QUOTE=Sordid]Saw on the news that the police had 6 or so vehicles with an aim for 10. Made a big production of it. Van Nuys area. How does this help exactly? The guy from the tv (cop) said that parents taking their kids to school had to explain what was happening between the johns and the hookers. Perhaps if what they were doing was legal, they could actually open up shop like in other countries. There, problem solved.[/QUOTE]
Well the police are flat out lying. Few children use Sepulveda to walk to school and there are no schools at all on Sepulveda in the Van Nuys area(there are in North Hills, a few miles up). And anyway, the few hookers that hang out on Sepulveda before 10am are very innoucuous and nearly impossible to spot, even for seasoned mongers. Later in the after noon is a different story, but I would guess that walking by Thirstys or by the gangmembers and drug dealers closer to Sepulveda/Vanowen makes a far greater impression on children than some random woman stepping into a car.
Went to 2 different thai massage centers (legit ones) on olive / san fernando and got very good massage. it's a little pricey $60 and $70 an hour. got some occasional touchings and rubbings but nothing good. started talking to the masseuse and she told me she works almost 12 hours a day and 7 days a week and is terribly tired. She had a body to die for, will try talking more to her next time. Nothing much to hope for, mostly old masseuses giving good or bad massage and making big $$$ in an hour.