Seeking Arrangements

No longer interested in sugar dating, but I'll post my Top 3 SBs from SA all based in Miami & Ft. Laudy.

They are expensive (will run you 1 K sometimes), but very worth it if you're into models and high-quality girls. Some allow BBFS.

Katie: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b4f9dcd5-fe93-4b4b-8e2a-df1468b3cbec[/URL]

Lucia: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ca8dbe09-c7f7-4465-a3e2-e11c7f6bbfe2[/URL]

Anna (Former Miss Germany): [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ca56051d-6776-4d38-ac3d-e25cb88a52d4[/URL]

For people getting started on SA, here's some general advice:

1.) Discuss financial logistics PRIOR to meeting. Request a public meeting at a bar (I recommend Moxie's for this). Many girls will try to make you more than what was agreed, claiming that other men are willing to pay more (hint: they're not). Negotiate to something reasonable. No first date should be over 1 K unless BBFS is discussed and allowed subsequently.

2.) The hotter they are, the more expensive they will be. You want a young, mid-20's model girl? Better be able to cough up 1-1. 5 K. It is what it is. But again, only pay this much IF they're letting you hit raw. These things need to be discussed prior to meeting them.

3.) If you get catfished or she doesn't look like her pics, leave. You don't owe her money. Ideally, you should FaceTime or video call before meeting, but do NOT ever pay someone that deceived you. Plenty of candies in the bowl.

What do you guys think is a good / most effective opening message to a girl on the site.

Hi guys,

Have you ever met a girl that is also quite famous on insta? Like 30-50 k followers?

[QUOTE=Rcl44;7238310]What do you guys think is a good / most effective opening message to a girl on the site.[/QUOTE]What kind of arrangement is she looking for and what's her initial price? If she's asking for 1 K or more, you need to ensure she gets physically intimate with you at the end of your first meeting. I wouldn't entertain anyone asking for more than 1.5 K on an initial date.

[QUOTE=Doc305;7233874]For people getting started on SA, here's some general advice:

1.) Discuss financial logistics PRIOR to meeting. Request a public meeting at a bar (I recommend Moxie's for this). Many girls will try to make you more than what was agreed, claiming that other men are willing to pay more (hint: they're not). Negotiate to something reasonable. No first date should be over 1 K unless BBFS is discussed and allowed subsequently.

2.) The hotter they are, the more expensive they will be. You want a young, mid-20's model girl? Better be able to cough up 1-1. 5 K. It is what it is. But again, only pay this much IF they're letting you hit raw. These things need to be discussed prior to meeting them.

3.) If you get catfished or she doesn't look like her pics, leave. You don't owe her money. Ideally, you should FaceTime or video call before meeting, but do NOT ever pay someone that deceived you. Plenty of candies in the bowl.[/QUOTE]Great advice, especially if you want top tier talent. If you are okay with GND chubby / MILF cute enough types, you can find $200-400 PPM options who don't get as much attention. It's a slog and SB and Seek both have been flooded by bots and TikTok GPS rinsers but if you are patient and play the numbers game, the options are out there. Pretty close to what you'd find on cuddle sites. Adjust price up / down based on your approach / game, authenticity, and looks, adjust way up if you have hygiene or entitlement issues. Miami is of course pricier than midwest or small / mid metro areas but I've found options who live further out and are left on the sidelines.

[QUOTE=Doc305;7233874]For people getting started on SA, here's some general advice:

1.) Discuss financial logistics PRIOR to meeting. Request a public meeting at a bar (I recommend Moxie's for this). Many girls will try to make you more than what was agreed, claiming that other men are willing to pay more (hint: they're not). Negotiate to something reasonable. No first date should be over 1 K unless BBFS is discussed and allowed subsequently.

2.) The hotter they are, the more expensive they will be. You want a young, mid-20's model girl? Better be able to cough up 1-1. 5 K. It is what it is. But again, only pay this much IF they're letting you hit raw. These things need to be discussed prior to meeting them.

3.) If you get catfished or she doesn't look like her pics, leave. You don't owe her money. Ideally, you should FaceTime or video call before meeting, but do NOT ever pay someone that deceived you. Plenty of candies in the bowl.[/QUOTE]You got to be nuts to pay more than $300 for anyone on SA. I pay much less sometimes free. Geez.

[QUOTE=Laminate7;7255450]You got to be nuts to pay more than $300 for anyone on SA. I pay much less sometimes free. Geez.[/QUOTE]What low quality girl is letting you hit for less than 300, let alone free?

[QUOTE=Doc305;7257870]What low quality girl is letting you hit for less than 300, let alone free?[/QUOTE]Every girl I've spoken to in miami / ft lauderdale on SA the last time I was down there liek 2 years ago wanted $1000+ usuallly. You can get some sub $500 once in awhile but its like finding needles in a haystack.

All the hot girls under 30 are $1000 minimum.

Guys, honest question: why is this forum so quiet? There are so few reports. I thought Miami was a top 3 sugar city in the US, along with LA and NYC. Do mongers use a different forum or something? Even the Tampa sugar section is much more active than this forum.

[QUOTE=StubbornMule;7259178]Guys, honest question: why is this forum so quiet? There are so few reports. I thought Miami was a top 3 sugar city in the US, along with LA and NYC. Do mongers use a different forum or something? Even the Tampa sugar section is much more active than this forum.[/QUOTE]I do most of my sugar dating in north and central Florida, but I'm in Miami pretty much monthly and absolutely never have a problem finding a hot date on SA. And by date, I mean * that wants to get ravaged. $300-400 per date gets it done, though you will find outliers that asked for insane amounts.

As you would imagine many are Latinas and are fresh off the boat, but there are also a large amount of Eastern European women that live spread out throughout mansions on the other side of the bay. Many live in " promoters" houses and obviously have a quota they have to meet for their rent. My experience most want to be Uber to you and back, but things are pretty close so that's not usually an issue. I've had dates from Russia, Belarus, Estonia, and Ukraine this year alone.

Hope that helps!

[QUOTE=StubbornMule;7259178]Guys, honest question: why is this forum so quiet? There are so few reports. I thought Miami was a top 3 sugar city in the US, along with LA and NYC. Do mongers use a different forum or something? Even the Tampa sugar section is much more active than this forum.[/QUOTE]All the high-end SDs don't frequent this site. Being on the younger side myself, I was shocked to not find much on here as well. I dropped some girls I think gents who can afford them should see. They are models and some of the best Miami has to offer IMO.

[QUOTE=SuitNTie420;7264459]I do most of my sugar dating in north and central Florida, but I'm in Miami pretty much monthly and absolutely never have a problem finding a hot date on SA. And by date, I mean * that wants to get ravaged. $300-400 per date gets it done, though you will find outliers that asked for insane amounts.

As you would imagine many are Latinas and are fresh off the boat, but there are also a large amount of Eastern European women that live spread out throughout mansions on the other side of the bay. Many live in " promoters" houses and obviously have a quota they have to meet for their rent. My experience most want to be Uber to you and back, but things are pretty close so that's not usually an issue. I've had dates from Russia, Belarus, Estonia, and Ukraine this year alone.

Hope that helps![/QUOTE]This helps a lot! Which city in Florida do you think has the best sugar scene?

[QUOTE=StubbornMule;7265145]This helps a lot! Which city in Florida do you think has the best sugar scene?[/QUOTE]As someone who has been doing this all around the state for some time now I'd say Tampa / St Pete is the best. TbH I never even touch Miami because most of the girls there have GPS and probably rightfully so because there are people who will pay. You can find some decent ones in Ft Lauderdale but you have to weed through a lot of pros (unless that's your thing). Orlando is okay but I seem to notice a bunch of girls in ORL are looking for "online only". Jax is hit or miss but I've found a few good ones up there. I always try to find the more UTR maybe new to the game ones and while it takes a bit more work it is definitely worth it. Usually a little cheaper (3-500) and they offer a lot more, YMMV. Luckily my search for a while has ended as I've found a great SB I've been seeing for a few months now who checks all my boxes and after seeing probably 75 ish girls off SA in the past 5 years I don't think anyone else even comes close.

[QUOTE=TrentWilliams;7266741]As someone who has been doing this all around the state for some time now I'd say Tampa / St Pete is the best. TbH I never even touch Miami because most of the girls there have GPS and probably rightfully so because there are people who will pay. You can find some decent ones in Ft Lauderdale but you have to weed through a lot of pros (unless that's your thing). Orlando is okay but I seem to notice a bunch of girls in ORL are looking for "online only". Jax is hit or miss but I've found a few good ones up there. I always try to find the more UTR maybe new to the game ones and while it takes a bit more work it is definitely worth it. Usually a little cheaper (3-500) and they offer a lot more, YMMV. Luckily my search for a while has ended as I've found a great SB I've been seeing for a few months now who checks all my boxes and after seeing probably 75 ish girls off SA in the past 5 years I don't think anyone else even comes close.[/QUOTE]Is Tampa the best in volume of girls, or quality of girls, or price? Or all 3?

[QUOTE=StubbornMule;7267264]Is Tampa the best in volume of girls, or quality of girls, or price? Or all 3?[/QUOTE]All 3. I'm from up north and Tampa always seems to have lots of girls for fair prices who are attractive. These same girls could easily ask for close to double in miami, NYC or LA.

Its not as good as it used to be, but you could say that about the whole site in general. Demographic shifts are happening as the youngest millenials are about 29 years old and there are not alot of GenZ in general. The amount of women in their 30's on these sites is going up big time due to the fact birth rates started dropping in the mid 90's and the millenial women who were on here in 2015 are now in their early 30's.

[QUOTE=LolBoat;7269686]All 3. I'm from up north and Tampa always seems to have lots of girls for fair prices who are attractive. These same girls could easily ask for close to double in miami, NYC or LA.

Its not as good as it used to be, but you could say that about the whole site in general. Demographic shifts are happening as the youngest millenials are about 29 years old and there are not alot of GenZ in general. The amount of women in their 30's on these sites is going up big time due to the fact birth rates started dropping in the mid 90's and the millenial women who were on here in 2015 are now in their early 30's.[/QUOTE]I travel between Ft Myers / Naples and Miami quite a bit. The market in Ft Myers Naples its easy to get attractive BBFS, Anal girl at $500 ppm. The girls complain many requests from SD are $350 or so. Because of this $500 works great. In Miami for BBFS / Anal with a quality girl I'm getting told $1000 or more. Its less expensive to pay the girls from Ft Myers / Naples an extra $250 to travel to Miami to see me. Way to many wealthy "Gringos" messing up market in Miami where $1000 ppm is discussed as typical.

[QUOTE=Casper11;7269710]I travel between Ft Myers / Naples and Miami quite a bit. The market in Ft Myers Naples its easy to get attractive BBFS, Anal girl at $500 ppm. The girls complain many requests from SD are $350 or so. Because of this $500 works great. In Miami for BBFS / Anal with a quality girl I'm getting told $1000 or more. Its less expensive to pay the girls from Ft Myers / Naples an extra $250 to travel to Miami to see me. Way to many wealthy "Gringos" messing up market in Miami where $1000 ppm is discussed as typical.[/QUOTE]The proposition of sugaring is losing its luster for me as these women are getting older. Its hard to find younger ones and they are not cheap if you do.

[QUOTE=LolBoat;7272379]The proposition of sugaring is losing its luster for me as these women are getting older. Its hard to find younger ones and they are not cheap if you do.[/QUOTE]Yep. And men's over thirst don't help. Guys get overexcited and throw away too much on a girl that just going to leave in an hour anyway. I don't pay for old puss. The SB scene has jumped the shark. Wonder what's next.

[QUOTE=LolBoat;7269686]All 3. I'm from up north and Tampa always seems to have lots of girls for fair prices who are attractive. These same girls could easily ask for close to double in miami, NYC or LA.

Its not as good as it used to be, but you could say that about the whole site in general. Demographic shifts are happening as the youngest millenials are about 29 years old and there are not alot of GenZ in general. The amount of women in their 30's on these sites is going up big time due to the fact birth rates started dropping in the mid 90's and the millenial women who were on here in 2015 are now in their early 30's.[/QUOTE]Damn a life of fucking delusional old women I gusee the wall is dead. Over 30 should be free if you're a well off man. And the numbers that call themselves pretty OMG what a joke. Average at best with 5-6 thirsty " secret admirers. " The future is dim. And with the destruction of relationships the birtrat will continue to fall. There will soon be a generation of men that most will never have sex!! Wow!! I keep sayin it WW3 is the only thing that will make a dent in this sick " dating " market.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1fc52042-9861-4bb1-a475-c694671f0cf0[/URL]

It's that time of year again hoping to find someone when I visit. Wasn't too interested but I thought I ask.

She gave me a range which I hate. 550 ppm-700 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/14810495-648a-41a5-a67d-b75a62936117[/URL]

This one I'm definitely interested but I'm afraid will cost an arm and a leg. Will report back if I get some numbers.

[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;7280659][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1fc52042-9861-4bb1-a475-c694671f0cf0[/URL]

It's that time of year again hoping to find someone when I visit. Wasn't too interested but I thought I ask.

She gave me a range which I hate. 550 ppm-700 ppm.[/QUOTE]Ask her straight up if we fuck what's the rate. You set the terms if she sets the price. Honestly though at that size 550 is a big ask. Most are so delusional about their worth. I got one in Vegas for 500 she was smaller than that one you posted and better looking but not skinny and 21! But sometimes the average looking ones are better in the sack. LOL.

Good luck.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0f67b6f1-8071-4b13-be5f-028a3b996669[/URL]

This one got all pissy when I told her I'm not in town yet (she msg me first). Guess she didn't even bother to read my profile.

Note she's ONLY interested meeting someone that's ready to meet in person, right there right now at a moment's notice. Good luck with that!

[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;7281875]Ask her straight up if we fuck what's the rate. You set the terms if she sets the price. Honestly though at that size 550 is a big ask. Most are so delusional about their worth. I got one in Vegas for 500 she was smaller than that one you posted and better looking but not skinny and 21! But sometimes the average looking ones are better in the sack. LOL.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks and seriously I wasn't even that interested to begin with, she's on my backburner but even then most likely I'll just pass if no one else. I'll let you know if I find out she's DTF at that price. And agreed there's plenty of hotter gals here in Vegas for 500.

But yeah maybe she's GFE who knows, it's still a bit high to find out.

[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;7284303][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0f67b6f1-8071-4b13-be5f-028a3b996669[/URL]

This one got all pissy when I told her I'm not in town yet (she msg me first). Guess she didn't even bother to read my profile.

Note she's ONLY interested meeting someone that's ready to meet in person, right there right now at a moment's notice. Good luck with that![/QUOTE]Pro. And her rent is due. Babe you should of got a hubby. But noooooo I want pookie cause he makes me tingle. Now you're down to selling puss. That is really the bottom, no? LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/04e5786c-8ebf-4c9a-8c60-353547b86dd2[/URL]

She's cool to meet when I'm actually there. Haven't worked out the details yet, hope she's not a pro.

[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;7289131][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/04e5786c-8ebf-4c9a-8c60-353547b86dd2[/URL]

She's cool to meet when I'm actually there. Haven't worked out the details yet, hope she's not a pro.[/QUOTE]I've talked with her also. I'm considering. Let me know if you meet.

I'm spending some time in Miami and have been checking out the area. This is the greatest pool of ladies I have ever experienced. Things are a little higher but wow! I'm surprised there isn't a bit more on this thread. A lot of really good connections.

I'm happy to exchange info with anyone local who is active on that site!

Just DM me.

I hope to have more reports soon.

[QUOTE=MikeoDamerika;7295000]I'm spending some time in Miami and have been checking out the area. This is the greatest pool of ladies I have ever experienced. Things are a little higher but wow! I'm surprised there isn't a bit more on this thread. A lot of really good connections.

I'm happy to exchange info with anyone local who is active on that site!

Just DM me.

I hope to have more reports soon.[/QUOTE]I have plenty of quality providers I'd be happy to trade info on in DMs.

On the whole though, SoFlo, and especially Miami, have GPS. The hottest girls will easily run you 7 or more in a PPM. Sometimes even 1-1.5 but if you're looking to smash the best, those are the prices we must shell up. It is what it is.

[QUOTE=MikeoDamerika;7295000]I'm spending some time in Miami and have been checking out the area. This is the greatest pool of ladies I have ever experienced. Things are a little higher but wow! I'm surprised there isn't a bit more on this thread. A lot of really good connections.

I'm happy to exchange info with anyone local who is active on that site!

Just DM me.

I hope to have more reports soon.[/QUOTE]Show your work!

[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;7280659][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1fc52042-9861-4bb1-a475-c694671f0cf0[/URL]

It's that time of year again hoping to find someone when I visit. Wasn't too interested but I thought I ask.

She gave me a range which I hate. 550 ppm-700 ppm.[/QUOTE]One of the first girls I met off Seeking back in 2019. Sweet girl, she rode her bicycle to a nearby Publix and I picked her up. I think it was 3 OO but that was 6 years ago now and hoflation is real.

[QUOTE=TrentWilliams;7301877]One of the first girls I met off Seeking back in 2019. Sweet girl, she rode her bicycle to a nearby Publix and I picked her up. I think it was 3 OO but that was 6 years ago now and hoflation is real.[/QUOTE]I was with her too back then. She's had an active Tryst profile in the past for that hoeflated rate.

SLN Girl Katie 29.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Katie/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TrentWilliams;7301877]One of the first girls I met off Seeking back in 2019. Sweet girl, she rode her bicycle to a nearby Publix and I picked her up. I think it was 3 OO but that was 6 years ago now and hoflation is real.[/QUOTE]So with age and use her puss cost more? How's that work? LOL.

[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;7305460]So with age and use her puss cost more? How's that work? LOL.[/QUOTE]Well until I made that post you didn't know she has been in seeking for 6 years. Girls are expecting more on seeking than they were 6 years ago.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a700e587-b062-48fb-b698-089f94b7c4b8[/URL]

[QUOTE=ToPricky;7301923]I was with her too back then. She's had an active Tryst profile in the past for that hoeflated rate.[/QUOTE]Is she worth the trouble? I expect Karla level experience at that range.

New SLN Girl. Zara 20.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/princesszaraaa/[/URL]#1.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7470ea8f-89cd-49bb-9539-0c7947a0d226[/URL]

Curious if anyone has intel on her. Trying to get some numbers, I'm sure it's not cheap, looks very high end especially she used the G word. Generous.