[QUOTE=BigMonger22;4034239]Found a utr that is fetish friendly. Pm me for details.[/QUOTE]Phone's been shut off. She's not answering messages. Sorry for the false alarm, guys.
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[QUOTE=BigMonger22;4034239]Found a utr that is fetish friendly. Pm me for details.[/QUOTE]Phone's been shut off. She's not answering messages. Sorry for the false alarm, guys.
[QUOTE=BigMonger22;4034239]Found a utr that is fetish friendly. Pm me for details.[/QUOTE]She's not responding to messages. Think her phone went dead.
Utr slim, slender ebony young lady. Tampa, lan o lakes area. Anyone got any leads?
Does anyone know of any guides on how to recruit UTR's?
My brethren. I have been out of the game due to work. I am returning to our fair city next week. Need a super sporty pipe cleaning UTR.
[QUOTE=BeachFlyer69;4053588]Does anyone know of any guides on how to recruit UTR's?[/QUOTE]IDK, but there should be. Or at least there should be for general tips albeit not specific girls. UTR by definition is "under the radar" so is not going to be so out there. Here are a few tips that I can think of. 1st, if you expect other guys to share their finds with you then you should be willing to share yours with them (subject to the okay from the utr herself of course). 2nd, always treat the utr you'vd been given well (or treat any girl that way actually). You have to develop a rep for being trustworthy if you want other guys to share their info (and unfortunately some guys spoil it for the rest of us). 3rd, don't just ask other guys. if you have a provider that you've established a good relationship with, ask her if she has any friends who operate UTR. In many cases she may be reluctant to share you, one of her regulars with a friend, so you might have to present it as doing a 3-way with the both of them or a double date to set her friend with one of yours. 4th, in general, we're talking about girls here who are willing to do "special" things for a little financial help but don't necessarily want to post their info relating to that on-line for the world to see.
So think of what women you encounter who may fall into that category: ones in low- paying jobs (like waitresses or fast-food counter girls) and particularly single moms in those jobs or ones who have other special financial demands (e. G. Students or, yes, druggies).
I find most of mine at the strip joints (or at least the lower end ones). Many of them do not make as much money as you'd think or, if the do, manage to waste most of it and need much more. Do NOT spend a lot of $ on them in the club (just enough not to look too cheap). Do maybe 1 trial VIP or lap dance but make it clear to them that if they want a regular steady & easy source of extra $ help then they should see you outside the club. Make it easy for them by offering to see them on days when there's less business in the club anyway (Mondays & Tuesdays) and point out that while they might make more in VIP than you'd pay them, they don't have to sit around half the night in between VIP sessions either (iow, they can make as much in a couple of hours with you as they'd make in an entire Monday night shift). The funny thing is that these girls often don't see what they're doing as escorting, since they're not advertising as such or taking random johns, but rather doing an Fwb with a nice guy they've developed some rapporte with.
What I call civilian girls, those working regular jobs like waitressing (one guy I know has a special thing for Dunkin Donuts girls) are a little more difficult to approach since they're not so obviously in the game as strippers. If they are at all. The trick is to pick out a time to visit when they'reless busy and flirt them up (also remembering to ask them "qualifying questions", e. G. Assessing their financial neediness, whether they have bf's, whether they live at home with parents or on their own, any kids, car, tuition, etc. And then lead into if they like older guys or know about "sugar dating" Obviously, be very careful if the place is one that may hire underage (e. G. Stay away from the greeters at breastaurants like hooters).
At least this is the sort of thing that has worked for me. I've taken home probably at least 50 different girls from well over a dozen or more different strip joints in the Tampa bay area over the years. Sometimes for just 1 visit but sometimes with their becoming long time regulars. I've even had a few move in with me for a time and I've rarely had to pay much more than $100 for a session that could last up to a couple of hours. Occasionally, one or 2 of them might also advertise on-line from time to time but most were completely UTR. Oh yeah, and I have had much better luck pulling from the clubs in Pinellas (including DD's, Atlantis, Oasis, Showgirls before they closed and Babydolls & 24 kt before they went completely downhill) and Pasco (Allure, BF, BA, etc) than the ones here in Tampa. YMMV.
[QUOTE=BeachFlyer69;4053588]Does anyone know of any guides on how to recruit UTR's?[/QUOTE]IDK, but there should be. Or at least there should be for general tips albeit not specific girls. UTR by definition is "under the radar" so is not going to be so out there. Here are a few tips that I can think of. 1st, if you expect other guys to share their finds with you then you should be willing to share yours with them (subject to the okay from the utr herself of course). 2nd, always treat the utr you'vd been given well (or treat any girl that way actually). You have to develop a rep for being trustworthy if you want other guys to share their info (and unfortunately some guys spoil it for the rest of us). 3rd, we're talking about girls here who are willing to do "special" things for a little financial help but don't necessarily want to post their info relating to that on-line for the world to see. So think of what women you encounter who may fall into that category: ones in low- paying jobs (like waitresses or fast-food counter girls) and particularly single moms in those jobs or ones who have other special financial demands (e. G. Students or, yes, druggies). I find most of mine at the strip joints (or at least the lower end ones). Many of them do not make as much money as you'd think or, if the do, manage to waste most of it and need much more. Do NOT spend a lot of $ on them in the club (just enough not to look too cheap). Do maybe 1 trial VIP or lap dance but make it clear to them that if they want a regular steady & easy source of extra $ help then they should see you outside the club. Make it easy for them by offering to see them on days when there's less business in the club (Mondays & Tuesdays) and point out that while they might make more in VIP than you'd pay them, they don't have to sit around half the night in between VIP sessions either (iow, they can make as much in a couple of hours with you as they' d make in an entire Monday night shift). The funny thing is that these girls often don't see what they're doing as escorting, since they're not advertising as such or taking random johns, but rather doing an Fwb with a nice guy they've developed some rapporte with. What I call civilian girls, those working regular jobs like waitressing (one guy I know has a special thing for Dunkin Donuts girls) are a little more difficult to approach since they're not so obviously in the game as strippers. If they are at all. The trick is to pick out a time to visit when they'reless busy and flirt them up (also remembering to ask them "qualifying questions", e. G. Assessing their financial neediness, whether they have bf's, whether they live at home with parents or on their own, any kids, car, tuition, etc. And then lead into if they like older guys or know about "sugar dating" Obviously, be very careful if the place is one that may hire underage (e. G. Stay away from the greeters at breastaurants like hooters).
At least this is the sort of thing that has worked for me. I've taken home probably at least 50 different girls from well over a dozen or more different strip joints in the Tampa bay area over the years. Sometimes for just 1 visit but sometimes with their becoming long time regulars. I've even had a few move in with me for a time and I've rarely had to pay much more than $100 for a session that could last up to a couple of hours. Occasionally, one or 2 of them might also advertise on-line from time to time but most were completely UTR. Oh yeah, and I have had much better luck pulling from the clubs in Pinellas (including DD's, Atlantis, Oasis, Showgirls before they closed and Babydolls & 24 kt before they went completely downhill) and Pasco (Allure, BF, BA, etc) than the ones here in Tampa. YMMV.
[QUOTE=ChaseStar;4129092]IDK, but there should be. Or at least there should be for general tips albeit not specific girls. UTR by definition is "under the radar" so is not going to be so out there. Here are a few tips that I can think of. 1st, if you expect other guys to share their finds with you then you should be willing to share yours with them (subject to the okay from the utr herself of course). 2nd, always treat the utr you'vd been given well (or treat any girl that way actually). You have to develop a rep for being trustworthy if you want other guys to share their info (and unfortunately some guys spoil it for the rest of us). 3rd, we're talking about girls here who are willing to do "special" things for a little financial help but don't necessarily want to post their info relating to that on-line for the world to see. So think of what women you encounter who may fall into that category: ones in low- paying jobs (like waitresses or fast-food counter girls) and particularly single moms in those jobs or ones who have other special financial demands (e. G. Students or, yes, druggies). I find most of mine at the strip joints (or at least the lower end ones). Many of them do not make as much money as you'd think or, if the do, manage to waste most of it and need much more. Do NOT spend a lot of $ on them in the club (just enough not to look too cheap). Do maybe 1 trial VIP or lap dance but make it clear to them that if they want a regular steady & easy source of extra $ help then they should see you outside the club. Make it easy for them by offering to see them on days when there's less business in the club (Mondays & Tuesdays) and point out that while they might make more in VIP than you'd pay them, they don't have to sit around half the night in between VIP sessions either (iow, they can make as much in a couple of hours with you as they' d make in an entire Monday night shift). The funny thing is that these girls often don't see what they're doing as escorting, since they're not advertising as such or taking random johns, but rather doing an Fwb with a nice guy they've developed some rapporte with. What I call civilian girls, those working regular jobs like waitressing (one guy I know has a special thing for Dunkin Donuts girls) are a little more difficult to approach since they're not so obviously in the game as strippers. If they are at all. The trick is to pick out a time to visit when they'reless busy and flirt them up (also remembering to ask them "qualifying questions", e. G. Assessing their financial neediness, whether they have bf's, whether they live at home with parents or on their own, any kids, car, tuition, etc. And then lead into if they like older guys or know about "sugar dating" Obviously, be very careful if the place is one that may hire underage (e. G. Stay away from the greeters at breastaurants like hooters).
At least this is the sort of thing that has worked for me. I've taken home probably at least 50 different girls from well over a dozen or more different strip joints in the Tampa bay area over the years. Sometimes for just 1 visit but sometimes with their becoming long time regulars. I've even had a few move in with me for a time and I've rarely had to pay much more than $100 for a session that could last up to a couple of hours. Occasionally, one or 2 of them might also advertise on-line from time to time but most were completely UTR. Oh yeah, and I have had much better luck pulling from the clubs in Pinellas (including DD's, Atlantis, Oasis, Showgirls before they closed and Babydolls & 24 kt before they went completely downhill) and Pasco (Allure, BF, BA, etc) than the ones here in Tampa. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Very valuable information. I will definitely try this. If anyone else has anything to add, I'd appreciate some tips. I'm working a few different angles and I'll post if any of them pan out.
Maybe we can put together a good guide for UTR girls.
I have a really nice college girl in Tampa and 1 in Orlando. Would love to exchange with senior members.
[QUOTE=Jetdog;4383378]I have a really nice college girl in Tampa and 1 in Orlando. Would love to exchange with senior members.[/QUOTE]I need to recruit a college girl or two. Did you find these two on Seeking website?
Looking for a nice girl. UTR better but opened to others. Can give UTRs in Gainesville area in exchange.
Anyone know of any that need help financially? I can assist if its beneficial. Looking of a petite 18+ UTR. Let me know via PM.
There's an app for that! LOL. Sorry, couldn't resist.
[QUOTE=NeeditWantit;4400603]Anyone know of any that need help financially? I can assist if its beneficial. Looking of a petite 18+ UTR. Let me know via PM.[/QUOTE]Wk.
[QUOTE=WhoKnows;4409124]There's an app for that! LOL. Sorry, couldn't resist.
Wk.[/QUOTE]Grinder? Tinder? I don't like swiping left or right.
[QUOTE=NeeditWantit;4400603]Anyone know of any that need help financially? I can assist if its beneficial. Looking of a petite 18+ UTR. Let me know via PM.[/QUOTE]Go to a strip club. They love money!
[QUOTE=NeeditWantit;4413002][QUOTE=WhoKnows;4409124]There's an app for that! LOL. Sorry, couldn't resist.[/QUOTE]Grinder? Tinder? I don't like swiping left or right.[/QUOTE]Isn't Grindr for gays?
But you guys raise a good issue. The use of apps for finding UTR's (SB's, FWB's or whatever you want to call them). Like probably most of you, I've played around with Tinder to find regular hookups. I have managed to hookup thru Tinder with some pretty fine UTR's in other countries (Badoo also seems to work pretty well for that in Latin America). However my results locally have been rather disappointing at best. Perhaps that's just because I've just been haphazardly swiping left or right on any young pretty girl without thinking particularly methodically about profile, pics or follow-up lines. Of course, like any other area of mongering, you have to somehow filter through a ton of scammers, catfish and other assorted BS. Like those other areas, there are probably things you can do to increase your odds, but it still normally comes down to a numbers game and I can accept that.
My issue is, though I do manage to get a fair number of matches, I get only a fraction of those to keep talking beyond just a couple of texts if even that. The ones I do manage to engage (or in a couple of cases actually meet) they all so far have this idea of some rich lawyer type lavishing tons of dollars on them for nothing more than looking pretty (e.g. to pay their full tuition, or else be taken out to bankroll them at the casino, expensive restaurant or on a wild shopping spree). In some cases, they may understand what their end of the deal is expected to be, but the price, at least by my standards, is always much too high. Perhaps I'm just too cheap, but whether it's based on a monthly allowance or a price-per-meet (ppm), I always keep in my mind a "cpf" (cost per fuck) and I just don't see paying significantly more for a UTR / SB cpf than I could with a simple escort. IMHO, if anything it should be somewhat less because I represent a steady relationship without the negative of it being outright prostitution. Or am I wrong?
I'm thinking all these would-be SB's have read way too many stories about girls finding millionaire SD's (or maybe just watched Pretty Woman way too many times). I can't believe there is anywhere near as many guys willing to shell out so much for so little as there are women thinking they can latch on to someone like that.
Anyway, someone before was asking about a general guide or tipsheet for developing UTR's and I guess I'm asking a little bit more specifically about the use of various apps (whether it be Tinder, AFF, SA or some other site). Who has tried it? How successful have they been with what ever they've tried? And, if they have found success with any of those, what tips can they share for the rest of us to help improve our own chances of success?
Plenty of utrs in this area
[QUOTE=Tattoo47;4413014]Go to a strip club. They love money![/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=ChaseStar;4414467]Isn't Grindr for gays?
But you guys raise a good issue. The use of apps for finding UTR's (SB's, FWB's or whatever you want to call them). Like probably most of you, I've played around with Tinder to find regular hookups. I have managed to hookup thru Tinder with some pretty fine UTR's in other countries (Badoo also seems to work pretty well for that in Latin America). However my results locally have been rather disappointing at best. Perhaps that's just because I've just been haphazardly swiping left or right on any young pretty girl without thinking particularly methodically about profile, pics or follow-up lines. Of course, like any other area of mongering, you have to somehow filter through a ton of scammers, catfish and other assorted BS. Like those other areas, there are probably things you can do to increase your odds, but it still normally comes down to a numbers game and I can accept that.[/QUOTE]WOW! What a well written post and perfect observations you make on the current state of the UTR. SB / SD situation. I couldn't have said it better and was actually thinking I could have written the same review. I've been a member of SA for a few years under a couple of different titles and it seems to me that the demise of CL and BP was the end of SA. A couple of years ago I was flush with the single mom or lonely someone who just wanted to feel appreciated and the money was very secondary. In fact, I had several that I saw on a regular basis that I almost never paid except for once in a while for something they needed to take care of. Then it really became known as a hookup site and the dynamic changed immediately and drastically to those you described.
AS for your other question, back in the day POF was a hot bed of action and again I never paid for what I was looking for. It was full of UTR's and I had my fill but I recently put up a profile and the level of catfish and fake profiles made me drop the membership. I have been on and off of AFF over the years and never met anyone from there. I tried Tinder and Tagged with the same results, nothing! There are a host of other sites to fill any fetish or frump you may have and I've cruised several of them (LoveVooDoo, FetLife, WYP, Secret Benefits, Bumble) with varying degrees of success.
I know I've got what it took to reel them in but for some reason I have not been very successful with some of the apps and sites that others use with great results so I'm resistant to throw good money after bad for profiles on anymore sites without some sort of idea how to make them work better.
Maybe we should start a thread here about the various sites and where all the action is. Sort of a tips and tricks forum since everyone seems to be saying the same things about the ones we all use (LC, STG, SA, etc.).
Anyway, thanks for the great post and happy hunting.
SKY.
[QUOTE=SkyHighBuilder;4419716]WOW! What a well written post and perfect observations you make on the current state of the UTR. SB / SD situation. I couldn't have said it better and was actually thinking I could have written the same review. I've been a member of SA for a few years under a couple of different titles and it seems to me that the demise of CL and BP was the end of SA. A couple of years ago I was flush with the single mom or lonely someone who just wanted to feel appreciated and the money was very secondary. In fact, I had several that I saw on a regular basis that I almost never paid except for once in a while for something they needed to take care of. Then it really became known as a hookup site and the dynamic changed immediately and drastically to those you described.
AS for your other question, back in the day POF was a hot bed of action and again I never paid for what I was looking for. It was full of UTR's and I had my fill but I recently put up a profile and the level of catfish and fake profiles made me drop the membership. I have been on and off of AFF over the years and never met anyone from there. I tried Tinder and Tagged with the same results, nothing! There are a host of other sites to fill any fetish or frump you may have and I've cruised several of them (LoveVooDoo, FetLife, WYP, Secret Benefits, Bumble) with varying degrees of success.
I know I've got what it took to reel them in but for some reason I have not been very successful with some of the apps and sites that others use with great results so I'm resistant to throw good money after bad for profiles on anymore sites without some sort of idea how to make them work better.
Maybe we should start a thread here about the various sites and where all the action is. Sort of a tips and tricks forum since everyone seems to be saying the same things about the ones we all use (LC, STG, SA, etc.).
Anyway, thanks for the great post and happy hunting.
SKY.[/QUOTE]Isn't all of this verging on "pimping"?
Brandon provider. She does post but not often. She prefers regulars. Needs more assistance from a few but doesn't want a big thread publicly bringing attention.
Looks TGTBT. Not a teeny tiny but not a BBW either. Wonderful curves. Very accomodating, great attitude, always GFE.
Seniors PM for info, prefer sharing wealth of other Brandon morsels.
[QUOTE=Mukman;4785073]Brandon provider. She does post but not often. She prefers regulars. Needs more assistance from a few but doesn't want a big thread publicly bringing attention.
Looks TGTBT. Not a teeny tiny but not a BBW either. Wonderful curves. Very accomodating, great attitude, always GFE.
Seniors PM for info, prefer sharing wealth of other Brandon morsels.[/QUOTE]Looking for good info on Brandon UTR too. Need someone who is cute too.
She posted a while ago on LC. Posts stopped around the covid timeframe. But I had her number and after weeks of texting, I got an apt with her. I had to host so with hotel and donation, it was $$$ out the door. Not going to be a regular thing unless she can host. But after seeing mongering mickey's video (see the pics forum), I had to get some.
I picked her up at her complex and we drove to the hotel. Didn't take long before we got down to business. Services are 100% GFE. Pics are real if you can find them, only issue is she has really bad teeth. Gets super wet and 69 is good. Nice thin bod.
I would post a link if I had one.
[QUOTE=NeeditWantit;4860385]She posted a while ago on LC. Posts stopped around the covid timeframe. But I had her number and after weeks of texting, I got an apt with her. I had to host so with hotel and donation, it was $$$ out the door. Not going to be a regular thing unless she can host. But after seeing mongering mickey's video (see the pics forum), I had to get some.
I picked her up at her complex and we drove to the hotel. Didn't take long before we got down to business. Services are 100% GFE. Pics are real if you can find them, only issue is she has really bad teeth. Gets super wet and 69 is good. Nice thin bod.
I would post a link if I had one.[/QUOTE[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/brief/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/1/ryder[/URL]
[QUOTE=NeeditWantit;4860385]She posted a while ago on LC. Posts stopped around the covid timeframe. But I had her number and after weeks of texting, I got an apt with her. I had to host so with hotel and donation, it was $$$ out the door. Not going to be a regular thing unless she can host. But after seeing mongering mickey's video (see the pics forum), I had to get some.
I picked her up at her complex and we drove to the hotel. Didn't take long before we got down to business. Services are 100% GFE. Pics are real if you can find them, only issue is she has really bad teeth. Gets super wet and 69 is good. Nice thin bod.
I would post a link if I had one.[/QUOTE]Is this her [URL="https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/52314418/"]Ryder's LC ad[/URL]?
[QUOTE=ChaseStar;4860632]Is this her [URL="https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/52314418/"]Ryder's LC ad[/URL]?[/QUOTE]Wow yes that is it. Looks like she just started posting again. Pics are her but she is a few years older. I would add at least 5 years to those pics. Maybe more.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/brief/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/1/ryder[/URL]
She's posting again. She has an incall at a high end hotel near the airport. I have my appointment locked in and will report afterwards.
[QUOTE=NeeditWantit;4954796][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/brief/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/1/ryder[/URL]
She's posting again. She has an incall at a high end hotel near the airport. I have my appointment locked in and will report afterwards.[/QUOTE]How did it go?
[QUOTE=NeeditWantit;4954796][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/brief/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/1/ryder[/URL]
She's posting again. She has an incall at a high end hotel near the airport. I have my appointment locked in and will report afterwards.[/QUOTE]Every time I click on the links posted for Ryder, she has it turned off.
Some workers do that. They show the ad until they get one of us on the hook and turn the ad off. It reduced the number and frequency of phone calls for them, for one thing. There may be other advantages, like signaling that they are busy for now and look for the ad later.
So, to counteract that on THIS board, there must be a way that more of the ad than the link can be posted. For example, when the ad is available, snag a few of the photos and the ad text and paste it into a post here. Just be careful not to violate the admin rules here.
LA1215
Thought I'd share some info if anyone is interested. She's young and fun. Doesn't post but would like to meet well established members. PM for details.
[QUOTE=RubberBand041;5027102]Thought I'd share some info if anyone is interested. She's young and fun. Doesn't post but would like to meet well established members. PM for details.[/QUOTE]Pm's sent.
[QUOTE=RubberBand041;5027102]Thought I'd share some info if anyone is interested. She's young and fun. Doesn't post but would like to meet well established members. PM for details.[/QUOTE]I'm interested. Can you share her contact info?
Do you guys have any recommendations in brandon area? Still looking for some girl with GFE service in brandon.
[QUOTE=RubberBand041;5027102]Thought I'd share some info if anyone is interested. She's young and fun. Doesn't post but would like to meet well established members. PM for details.[/QUOTE]I'd be interested to meet your utr. Number?
[QUOTE=RubberBand041;5027557]Pm's sent.[/QUOTE]Can you share her number?
Thank you.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/55205185/[/URL] Give her a try might be what you are looking for.
[QUOTE=BeetRan;5028555]Do you guys have any recommendations in brandon area? Still looking for some girl with GFE service in brandon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CreteMan;5031093][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/55205185/[/URL] Give her a try might be what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]See my review post #9905 in the escorts group for a review on this one.
[QUOTE=Ndnlvr69;4956488]How did it go?[/QUOTE]See my post #9906 in the escorts section for my review on Ryder.
[QUOTE=RubberBand041;5027102]Thought I'd share some info if anyone is interested. She's young and fun. Doesn't post but would like to meet well established members. PM for details.[/QUOTE]Tried to send you a message, your inbox is full. Send over her contact info if you would be so kind.
Inbox is full would like details.
[QUOTE=RubberBand041;5027102]Thought I'd share some info if anyone is interested. She's young and fun. Doesn't post but would like to meet well established members. PM for details.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Patrick71;5034683]Inbox is full would like details.[/QUOTE]I would love her info too, message box full.