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[QUOTE=Raltime;2979064]If you want to meet 2 really sweet girls that just like to have a good time. Ask them both to come to Raleigh and they will. They will come to Raleigh as a pair!
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f5f77f7f-6c3c-cbde-a358-fe12d6fc8ce7[/URL]
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/3ecda6e3-f39a-549e-cb1a-fcceaef5d3e0[/URL][/QUOTE]How much did it cost you for each?
[QUOTE=LikesGirls;2988828]SA has been recommended a few times, as a place to find UTR girls, and I just wanted to confirm that it does work well.
I signed up for one month (not particularly cheap, at $69), did a few searches, contacted several girls, I was even approached by a few, and I'm happy to reply that I'm satisfied enough to recommend this approach.
You will need to be careful and weed out some troublemakers (a couple of them started right away with excuses like needing to pay the car before they take it away, etc), but with some patience you will be able to find whatever floats your boat: young college coeds, middle age MILFs, etc. Personally, I found a great woman in her 40's, married and playing on the side. I just bring her something nice, rather than cash, when we meet.
Another observation: the younger ones are more likely to be in it for the money, middle aged for the thrills after missing something at home.
Good luck![/QUOTE]Making sure these tips got into this thread.
I alluded to my experience on SA a few months ago in another thread, but now that we have a thread for this stuff I wanted to chime in here.
I've had a couple of great, holy grail type of experiences, a lot of time and effort and some lessons learned. So the results have been mixed.
The holy grails were two different encounters with 19 year olds that I would have never landed or had a chance at otherwise. At the age of 47, to get a GFE from a 19 year old is amazing. The pussy is still tight. And I was able to get it for about $150 a pop, plus a couple of lunch dates.
But it did take a good deal of time and effort to find what I was seeking. The reason SA appealed to me is that I really, really need the GFE to enjoy it and get off. I don't care that it's not real, or they may be faking it, I at least need the illusion. And that is rare to find in the escort world. But it is all over SA and similar sites. There are a good number of girls who are basically escorts and you can weed them out right away because they go straight to the money. The other difficulty is finding girls who aren't flakes and can communicate. Granted, some of that is their age and station in life, but when every other word is "like," and you can't converse about anything beyond current pop culture, it's hard to make the connection.
I got scammed once. I took this girl out 2-3 times and liked her a lot. We agreed on an allowance and as soon as I paid the first time she ghosted me and I never heard from her again. In hindsight, I screwed up by not totally locking down her I'd. None of her story quite added up and I just let me little head think too much. If these girls are legit and want to date you, they will totally let you know who they are.
The other big lesson learned is that these girls do develop some level of legitimate feelings and affection for you. I "broke up" with one of the girls because the sex was a little mechanical and not a GFE. She told me that she was getting there but it takes awhile, and then she chastised me for just wanting her for one thing. In a way she has a point. Yes, we're all there for one thing, but if we're going to have a more personal connection, then we can also do things with our clothes on. So I learned a lesson in 20-something emotional management.
I am semi-retired right now, but plan on getting back in the game soon. There's too much benefit not to.
Does anyone have information about, or experience with, Free Spirit Gal?
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d38631cb-929d-41f9-9791-92f2039c7540[/URL]
She was one of my first meet and greets. She is pretty, older than her listing states. We seemed to have good communication but then she backed off (cold feet? When I asked to meet her again. But she is nice. I tried a couple more times, but no response.
[QUOTE=GaltGuy;2999629]Does anyone have information about, or experience with, Free Spirit Gal?
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d38631cb-929d-41f9-9791-92f2039c7540[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EcuGuy74;2999661]She was one of my first meet and greets. She is pretty, older than her listing states. We seemed to have good communication but then she backed off (cold feet? When I asked to meet her again. But she is nice. I tried a couple more times, but no response.[/QUOTE]Ecuguy, you have a PM. How long ago was your meet / greet?
[QUOTE=Thresh;2899948]DYoung,
I believe the trial will allow you 10 (ten) correspondences if you upload a primary photo to your profile. Without a primary photo you will not be able to use the messaging system. You can become a premium member and avoid the primary photo all together. I am married as well and uploaded a fairly creative pic that gets quite a bit of attention but doesn't reveal anything facial features.
Cheers: Thresh.[/QUOTE]Thresh could you elaborate a little more on your pic? Not trying to get you to send it to me but this is my biggest concern with the SD scene. I cannot afford to get caught up.
[QUOTE=Brneyehound;3000204]Thresh could you elaborate a little more on your pic? Not trying to get you to send it to me but this is my biggest concern with the SD scene. I cannot afford to get caught up.[/QUOTE]If your joining you don't need a pic, just make a good profile as to what your expecting or looking for in detail. . Saves alot of worry for you guys that can't afford to get caught up.
[QUOTE=Brneyehound;3000204]Thresh could you elaborate a little more on your pic? Not trying to get you to send it to me but this is my biggest concern with the SD scene. I cannot afford to get caught up.[/QUOTE]Just pay to join, which won't require you to post a pic to message girls. I have pictures that semi clearly show my face set to private, which only SB's you select get to see. You'll find that many girls won't even agree to meet you unless they can see some pictures first (just as we wouldn't). Don't get hung up on the pictures though, a well written profile and decent messaging skills are much more important to getting the girls interested in my opinion. Good luck!
[QUOTE=Dsrtp1;2982056]How much did it cost you for each?[/QUOTE]The one in stripes will visit for 5.
And requires a lot of time, however, every once in a while you hit a grand slam. I found a bareback full service cum in pussy with a cute woman that hosts in her apartment in Raleigh for $ $ $. I'll be glad to share with certain senior members. Maybe, haha. Depending on what kind of info you've helped me out with in the past or you're currently willing to share. Everyone on here is holding back on something.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/2c2b704f-5715-4d2d-98af-7a348c8b5e3a[/URL]
She's been discussed in detail on the b / p thread. Alana, Val, Valencia and I forget the other names she's used. I saw her a few years ago and wrote a review on the backpage thread but figured I try contacting thru Sa to see if anything would be different and I promised myself I would not bareback her. $ $ was agreed. We meet and she recognized me. So much for not barebacking her. I'm so weak. She loves to get fucked in the ass too. And no, she's 100% woman. I don't care what others have reported. Good news is I've been tested and I'm still clean. I'm not doing BBFS anymore. Well maybe on certain special occasions when it feels right, haha.
IF you put in the time and effort. There are so many beautiful women to choose from on SA and most are in the 20-30 yr range. I will caution all forum readers that it is a more costly way to approach this world but the quality is far superior. I've actually met some really cool chicks on there as well and have maintained friendships with many. So if you're inclined to spend the time and can part with a larger wallet share, then I would say go for it! It's about all I use these days.
Just curious. Thinking about joining this scene and doing some research. Do you usually get a hotel? Back to her place? I'm not interested in bringing an SB home.
I use hotels exclusively. Nothing overly fancy and I always pay in cash. There are times (once they are comfortable with me) where I will go to their place. This can be a beneficial as well since most usually have roommates who are intrigued by what's going on.
Cheers: Thresh.
[QUOTE=Triptogamont;3021295]Just curious. Thinking about joining this scene and doing some research. Do you usually get a hotel? Back to her place? I'm not interested in bringing an SB home.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Triptogamont;3021295]Just curious. Thinking about joining this scene and doing some research. Do you usually get a hotel? Back to her place? I'm not interested in bringing an SB home.[/QUOTE]For various reasons, IMO you should never bring a SB to your place until you are well into the relationship and trust has been built. I use hotels (use points to pay or use cc with online pay that SO doesn't know about) or preferably just go to their place. Always be safe!
I'm testing the waters in the Sugar Bowl, have had pretty early success and now I'm wondering if there are others who have seen a similar pattern in an SB. Cute, white, seems to have her shit together. No discussion of specific amounts at first, but now looking for financial help with some specific procedures. If you had something similar happen, PM me and lets compare notes.
Welcome to the Bowl. Your experience is quite common, though better than most. Typically you'll find some of the young ladies in our area falling into 4 categories. First are the straight up UTR girls, who quote a price up front and are clear that they work in volume. Next are the GPS girls, who want to commit to one SD but romanticize about finding their "white whale. " After that come the girls like you describe, seemingly sweet and sincere at first, but eventually become demanding and needy wanting large payouts before establishing anything sustainable. The last group are the "unsure what they want" type, who are sometimes looking for change of pace and experiences. For me, these are the most rare and most rewarding. Often they are cool girls who are just fun to hang with, that also become strong contenders for FWB kind of friends, while only needing essentials. Read this board and also the SugarBaby board in Richmond, and you'll get a bunch of valuable insight. Much like the young babies we chase, we are also required to do some homework to succeed! LOL.
Best of luck to you, and please share your experiences here if you have anything you feel is helpful.
[QUOTE=Ral613;3048688]I'm testing the waters in the Sugar Bowl, have had pretty early success and now I'm wondering if there are others who have seen a similar pattern in an SB. Cute, white, seems to have her shit together. No discussion of specific amounts at first, but now looking for financial help with some specific procedures. If you had something similar happen, PM me and lets compare notes.[/QUOTE]
Anyone else having trouble with the site? I am getting no traffic and I think it is from my profile not getting switched correctly from invisible to visible. I set up another account to see if I could find me profile and nothing. If anyone else had this problem, were you able to get it fixed?
OK, I'm pissed at the quality of BP these days. I'm finally getting into the Sugar Bowl via SA. Many many thanks to those posting here.
So I have a stupid question. What the fuck is up with these girls marking me as one of their favorites when they live in Butt Fuck Egypt? Did I say I was originally from Butt Fuck Egypt? Did I say I was planning to visit Butt Fuck Egypt?
[QUOTE=Triptogamont;3060583]OK, I'm pissed at the quality of BP these days. I'm finally getting into the Sugar Bowl via SA. Many many thanks to those posting here.
So I have a stupid question. What the fuck is up with these girls marking me as one of their favorites when they live in Butt Fuck Egypt? Did I say I was originally from Butt Fuck Egypt? Did I say I was planning to visit Butt Fuck Egypt?[/QUOTE]Welcome to the Bowl. Those are most likely either scams or pros (not true SB's), so you can just delete them. Even if they are real SB's you simply ignore them and not waste time as there are most likely plenty of others closer to your location. Good luck.
Trip,
From my experience, there are several reasons why they favorite you. 1) Because they are showing interest in you, but not willing to initiate contact (this happens with locals as well). 2) If they ever visit from the Philippines or Australia, they found someone they can reach out to when in your area. 3) They are marking you (as Yaya stated) for spamming at a later date.
Over the years, I have arbitrarily asked why was I "favorited" (an SA created verb) when I am half way across the planet. Most answers were, "because I liked your profile. ".
Cheers: Thresh.
[QUOTE=Triptogamont;3060583]OK, I'm pissed at the quality of BP these days. I'm finally getting into the Sugar Bowl via SA. Many many thanks to those posting here.
So I have a stupid question. What the fuck is up with these girls marking me as one of their favorites when they live in Butt Fuck Egypt? Did I say I was originally from Butt Fuck Egypt? Did I say I was planning to visit Butt Fuck Egypt?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MbncMar;2967897]Seeking fun in Dunn and Tristan will do a 3 some. It was great. Seeking fun has a tight body and not tits but has oral skills. Trisatan is nerdy with an amazing body and not orally inclined. I stacked them up and banged both. It was awesome.[/QUOTE]So have been messaging back and forth with this one and was setting something up within the next two days until she sent me her address and I looked it up on google maps. It is in BFE at the end of a road. I drive a fairly nice car and even if it's safe there (as she has assured). Just the thought of me being spotted driving down that street in my car would be awkward enough.
Any of the SD's who have seen her care to share if there was any issue with you driving down that street and / or parking your car there?
Thanks Thresh for starting this! I have been a long-time lurker on both the Raleigh BP and the Richmond Sugarbowl threads and finally glad to see someone create a SB thread for the 919. I've been off and on SA for the past few years and have had pretty good success both locally and quite a bit on the road too! (I'm a traveling sales exec. Hehe) SA has been my secret addiction with the occasional mongering but as some have stated. The BP quality has taken a nose dive. Plus, by the time you vett out the BP girls, you've practically spent just as much time as you would have on a POT.
Looking forward to contributing to this thread as I've picked up some tricks and lessons along the way and happy to share my experiences. BTW. Denver by far has the highest concentration of SB's I've ever seen. And they are all smoking hot.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/721b7edb-1204-8a23-f4c7-640159ce4f83[/URL]
Profile name: Spoiled1681.
I think I've seen some of her pictures on BP.
Anyone been asked to provide an apartment for a SB? I have and I'm looking for the safest option. Don't want to get caught up in anything with my name on lease and not be there but a few hours a week for fun. Maybe I lease and sub-let to SB but never get rent $ from her. Contract language removing me from liability?
I figure if it doesn't work out, I can always sublet it and cut my losses or use it for next SB.
Any help is appreciated.
Stay safe. Med.
[QUOTE=MedJohnson;3086826]Anyone been asked to provide an apartment for a SB? I have and I'm looking for the safest option. Don't want to get caught up in anything with my name on lease and not be there but a few hours a week for fun. Maybe I lease and sub-let to SB but never get rent $ from her. Contract language removing me from liability?
I figure if it doesn't work out, I can always sublet it and cut my losses or use it for next SB.
Any help is appreciated.
Stay safe. Med.[/QUOTE]MedJohnson,
I have been down this road and will state adamantly and unequivocally that this can cause an enormous amount of issues. I won't delve into breaking the cardinal rule of keeping your personal life separate from the Sugar Bowl, which in itself is an entirely different (toxic) topic on its own. However, I will NOT sign my name to any legal document! I suggest you give this serious consideration before committing to such a huge financial and potentially liable engagement. The volatility found with a good percentage of SBs out there just doesn't lead to a sustainable "relationships" that can persist for six months or a year.
I understand your goals here as I have also been faced with this decision myself. My recommendation is to be the 'financial' backer, without any legal obligations. This accomplishes several things; obviously you are removed from the financial obligation, but it also grants a great amount of leverage with keeping your SB(s) in line. You have the ability to walk away without facing additional consequences at anytime.
Cheers: Thresh.
[QUOTE=MedJohnson;3086826]Anyone been asked to provide an apartment for a SB? I have and I'm looking for the safest option. Don't want to get caught up in anything with my name on lease and not be there but a few hours a week for fun. [/QUOTE]Am 100% in agreement with Thresh on this. It's a REALLY bad idea. If she wants you to cover rent, then make the arrangement so that you cover her rent in cash with HER name on the lease. When things stop working out, you just walk away.
[QUOTE=JLee68;3070762]So have been messaging back and forth with this one and was setting something up within the next two days until she sent me her address and I looked it up on google maps. It is in BFE at the end of a road. I drive a fairly nice car and even if it's safe there (as she has assured). Just the thought of me being spotted driving down that street in my car would be awkward enough.
Any of the SD's who have seen her care to share if there was any issue with you driving down that street and / or parking your car there?[/QUOTE]Glad you asked. I went down that particular road about 2 months ago. I actually was on my Harley that day. Tristan met me at the end of the road in front of a small house which evidently also had Tristan's apt. There was another apartment building to the right about 100 feet away with a couple of guys milling around. Tristan at first tried to hit me up for cash before the FC so she could "pay the rent. " I have played with BP girls prior to the past year on SA and I did not like the vibe. I cranked the bike back up and rode on out of there.
Now that being said I was a bit envious of the threesome with Seeking Dunn and Tristan although I checked out Seeking Dunn last year on both FB and her arrest record, she is a bit of a risk. Just sayin'.
Do not put your name on the lease. Ever.
Any thought on anonymous methods for getting a subscription to SA? Since it's an international transaction, most gift cards won't work.
This post from the Richmond thread may be of some help [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3111441&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3111441.
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[QUOTE=Righton1960;3111561]Any thought on anonymous methods for getting a subscription to SA? Since it's an international transaction, most gift cards won't work.[/QUOTE]
I've been with several young SBs from SA and everyone has tried to go bare back-I've had to make them wait while I put on a condom. I'm wondering if that's a trend with younger girls in general-or if the sb girls feels like that's something sd's want so they do it or if I'm just so fing hot they can't resist themselves.
[QUOTE=NepKng;3111982]I've been with several young SBs from SA and everyone has tried to go bare back-I've had to make them wait while I put on a condom. I'm wondering if that's a trend with younger girls in general-or if the sb girls feels like that's something sd's want so they do it or if I'm just so fing hot they can't resist themselves.[/QUOTE]This is definitely a trend. And I attribute it to several factors. Having a "baby daddy" who is successful is a ticket to stability for quite sometime.
[QUOTE=NepKng;3111982]I've been with several young SBs from SA and everyone has tried to go bare back-I've had to make them wait while I put on a condom. I'm wondering if that's a trend with younger girls in general-or if the sb girls feels like that's something sd's want so they do it or if I'm just so fing hot they can't resist themselves.[/QUOTE]I like to go bare as I am snipped but all the SBs I've been with have insisted on protection. As already pointed out by Thresh be sure not to become the "Daddy" of their baby!
[QUOTE=Thresh;3112012]This is definitely a trend. And I attribute it to several factors. Having a "baby daddy" who is successful is a ticket to stability for quite sometime.[/QUOTE]Is the new trend with these young ones.
If anyone's seen Hannah with her boyfriend, pm me.
Link to her profile?
[QUOTE=Dsrtp1;3116869]If anyone's seen Hannah with her boyfriend, pm me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Righton1960;3111561]Any thought on anonymous methods for getting a subscription to SA? Since it's an international transaction, most gift cards won't work.[/QUOTE]I've always used the AMEX prepaid card. (forgot what it's called). You buy it at CVS and load it with the amount you want to spend, and there is no purchase fee (unlike prepaid credit cards 4. 95 or 7. 95). It is anonymous, as long as you enter the same zip code as where you bought the card it should work. If it doesn't, just contact support and explain the situation, give the digits of the card and they'll manually clear it within 24 hours or so. Good luck!
I decided to try SA out and found a SB that wanted to meet. We have already set up an arrangement.
She does not have transportation and she wants me to visit her home (not to pick her up and go to a hotel but have our fun there at a place that is near a rough part of Durham County).
I asked her a question about being an adult 18 or over, old enough to consent and she told me I was being weird (but never answered the question). I informed her that was a question designed for her safety and mines because a stranger is coming to her resident (where she says she will be alone) and I wanted to ensure she was of legal age because while she is sexy and her profile says she is 18.she looks young (and she never answered the question, she talked around the question, "you will see when you get here that I'm an adult".
What should I do? Just go to the meet and then request her I'd before we get into anything?