Sugar Baby

[QUOTE=Lpmrhahn;2810074]Got my first date off the site tonight with a hot thick latina chick. Just drinks, maybe dinner, at a place of her choosing, I'm very excited.[/QUOTE]Good luck. Hope it all works out.

I've been around quite awhile now, but starting to slow things down. No clue how sugar babies work, or where to start; would love some help!

V.

[QUOTE=Venomized;2811349]I've been around quite awhile now, but starting to slow things down. No clue how sugar babies work, or where to start; would love some help!

V.[/QUOTE]First go read the Richmond Va thread on this topic. Next joinn a SD site. Then the fun begins, from making contact to M / G to FC.

This is like fishing you need to have patience because its not like shooting fish in a barrel. Some guys make it sound easy and maybe for some it is if your creative or have a bunch of money to throw at them. If you have a gift for gab and negotiations then you will do good.

Anyway read that thread and good luck.

[QUOTE=Jonah1;2810095]But, C3, isn't there much more chance you will fall prey to the Fatal Attraction syndrome. I have heard about that happening a few times. Because they are not pro's [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2L0GUoYU0[/URL] Yikes![/QUOTE]J,

I think you could take that to the bank.

I'm not saying it is better. It is just another way.

C3.

I have had a few PM for requests of SA numbers. Let me set the record straight here. I will not provide numbers. Most of these girls are non pros and provide their real number after they get to know you a bit. These girls numbers do not come up in a google search and I would bet that they would be pretty pissed off with someone just testing or calling out of the blue. Yes, most of these girls are P4 P, but they don't follow the same rules as BP or SW. I, however will provide names and details. The rest you have to do on your own.

EFM.

Be careful with Bellaa!! And annbaby! Who appear to be the same person, I'm guessing she is being pimped and could be a scammer. I could be wrong but that's my gut feeling after having conversation with annbaby!

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2812194]I have had a few PM for requests of SA numbers. Let me set the record straight here. I will not provide numbers. Most of these girls are non pros and provide their real number after they get to know you a bit. These girls numbers do not come up in a google search and I would bet that they would be pretty pissed off with someone just testing or calling out of the blue. Yes, most of these girls are P4 P, but they don't follow the same rules as BP or SW. I, however will provide names and details. The rest you have to do on your own.

EFM.[/QUOTE]I agree with your post. I will not provide numbers either. I believe that is crossing a boundary. Yes, this is not BP or SW and there are true boundaries!

I've been talking with many potentials on SA and it can be frustrating as many of them can be flaky and some got the golden pussy syndrome. I've been talking to this 19 year old chick and even though she's not model hot, but she's very cute and we get along well. We agreed on an arrangement and met up for some lunch. In any case, it was an extended lunch and we had a great time.

I have to say you have to have patience and different expectation, it's really like regular dating with a twist.

I know I am going to sound like a dick and very selfish here, but wouldn't SA be great to keep off the beaten path of the standard hooker players? You can find great girls for great prices on SA and the more of guys who read this, the more who are going to leave the SW and BP game and hop on SA. Thus raising prices and lowering supply drastically. Not to mention, sharing some of those contagious things you get from that hobby (I know as I have done it plenty back in the past).

I know this is bad to say and all, as we should share info and help brothers out. But I just feel this case should not be used on here because it is definitely going to ruin it in the future. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Juliant213;2813922]I know I am going to sound like a dick and very selfish here, but wouldn't SA be great to keep off the beaten path of the standard hooker players? You can find great girls for great prices on SA and the more of guys who read this, the more who are going to leave the SW and BP game and hop on SA. Thus raising prices and lowering supply drastically. Not to mention, sharing some of those contagious things you get from that hobby (I know as I have done it plenty back in the past).

I know this is bad to say and all, as we should share info and help brothers out. But I just feel this case should not be used on here because it is definitely going to ruin it in the future. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I understand why you might think that. However I feel its a different game. Not everyone will have the patience and mentality to successfully hunt on sa. Its not always as simple as throwing out cash.

[QUOTE=Juliant213;2813922]I know I am going to sound like a dick and very selfish here, but wouldn't SA be great to keep off the beaten path of the standard hooker players? You can find great girls for great prices on SA and the more of guys who read this, the more who are going to leave the SW and BP game and hop on SA. Thus raising prices and lowering supply drastically. Not to mention, sharing some of those contagious things you get from that hobby (I know as I have done it plenty back in the past).

I know this is bad to say and all, as we should share info and help brothers out. But I just feel this case should not be used on here because it is definitely going to ruin it in the future. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]A hobbyist who frequents SW or BP girls will generally not expend the energy involved in the SA hunt. The want immediate results with a sure thing. While I understand your concern, I believe it to be unfounded. Also, those hobbyists are not going to start throwing around the type of cash that is going to inflate the prices.

[QUOTE=Juliant213;2813922]I know I am going to sound like a dick and very selfish here, but wouldn't SA be great to keep off the beaten path of the standard hooker players? You can find great girls for great prices on SA and the more of guys who read this, the more who are going to leave the SW and BP game and hop on SA. Thus raising prices and lowering supply drastically. Not to mention, sharing some of those contagious things you get from that hobby (I know as I have done it plenty back in the past).

I know this is bad to say and all, as we should share info and help brothers out. But I just feel this case should not be used on here because it is definitely going to ruin it in the future. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]The path is already beaten. Just ask any of the girls how many messages they get per day.

I do see your point though, and I agree on some level, but unfortunately there's too many shitty girls on there and that's what's great about this forum, to help each other not step into bad situations.

I got a chance to see Jakinil. She is alittle far out of the area. I meet her in Mt Dora. She is a great kisser and spinner. I might repeat!

I meet Lucky awhile ago. She states she is 34, she looks old, has had acne issues. So she is not a young very cute thing. She does have a hairy pussy but boy does that get wet. She is an amazing kisser and can fuck. I neg. Down from $$. Would repeat because of her energy!!

Dumber than a box of rocks. She came right out and text she is an escort! Than I asked a few questions, I promise they were not difficult. She was asking 3 questions back for everyone I asked. I finally asked her what she was snorting!

[QUOTE=Barolo;2816075]I got a chance to see Jakinil. She is alittle far out of the area. I meet her in Mt Dora. She is a great kisser and spinner. I might repeat![/QUOTE]Damn. We started to email but then she vanished from the site. Sad. I liked her.

Just wanted to say thank you. Thanks to you all I just spent 3 hours with a lovely black bbw who fucked and sucked the shit out of me, and all she wanted was $100. I know BBW's arent' everyones cup of tea, but they are mine, and she was perfect. SA is a great find, meeting the thick latina check from the other day tomorrow night so hopefully that'll be as much fun as this evening was.

SensualKisses317 is as flaky as they come. Avoid, avoid avoid!!

Ali K- is a Russian girl asking for $1100 for first meeting. The next to be discussed! LOL.

Brooke is asking for $150-have not tried!

That is her SA screen name. She's out of New Smyrna Beach. Of course she is heavier than her picks. I took her out, started off nice enough. As the time went on, her true colors started to show. I ended up going through until little guy got a piece, but wish I had not even started. I think she just needs to be straight up and be a backpage gal. She wasn't happy with dinner and the room I left her so she could host others. She definitely wasn't happy with the $ I left her, but I wasn't happy with the CBJ either. I'm all for CFS, but oral is a fail with a see grade.

Are you guys using clear pictures of yourself on SA? I have a silhouette as mine, wanted to know what works while keeping my facial features hidden?

[QUOTE=BoredAtHome99;2821085]Are you guys using clear pictures of yourself on SA? I have a silhouette as mine, wanted to know what works while keeping my facial features hidden?[/QUOTE]Clear pic but it's private, they seem ok with that. After I'm sure I don't know then I unlock it.

[QUOTE=BoredAtHome99;2821085]Are you guys using clear pictures of yourself on SA? I have a silhouette as mine, wanted to know what works while keeping my facial features hidden?[/QUOTE]If you got a silhouette approved as a public pic consider yourself lucky. They generally only allow clear picks on the public side.

C3.

[QUOTE=BoredAtHome99;2821085]Are you guys using clear pictures of yourself on SA? I have a silhouette as mine, wanted to know what works while keeping my facial features hidden?[/QUOTE]I have been a member for a year on SA and have never posted a pic. I get a fair amount of response to profile and to my introduction to women I'm interested in. When asked for a pic I send one of myself by text.

1) hot Latinas chick about 5 min from my office. Few days of talking via text, and $100 later I'm balls deep behind the most amazing ass I've seen in person. Even let me take video and pics. Plan on making this a regular thing.

2) the most gorgeous woman I've ever been with. 5'0 tall Asian with an amazing body, more American than stick figure Asian. Dinner, a cigar, and a couple drinks later were pulled over at a park laying on the ground and I'm pounding her from behind with a thumb up her ass while she squirts all over the ground. Plan on making this one an even more regular thing.

God bless you guys and this site.

So I'm having trouble getting what I ultimately want out of seeking arrangement. I want a hot college aged girl to be put on my "payroll" but it's damn near impossible to get a good girl on there. I really think SA has become such a meat market. The attractive girls want crazy money, 1000+. And they seem so nonchalant as if that's easy for them. Are there really guys out there paying girls 1000+ for one date? I mean I can't tell a guy how to spend his money but I simply can't compete with that. And competing is what I feel I'm constantly doing. Too many girls are flakey, cancelling at last minute (likely getting better offers) or not responding to texts timely. It just feels like it's such a sellers market that they don't give a shit. I guess with all the tourism in Orlando this is big business for girls perhaps. I've seen some of the less expensive girls. The escorts and strippers. And they are always fun but I'm actually looking for a "sugar baby" and it seems extremely difficult to find one at a reasonable cost and that isn't try to rip you off. And I'm a pretty normal guy, looks and personality, so I'm not necessarily blaming myself. Maybe I need to adjust my expectations. Thoughts?

As a previous poster said, I met mollysunflower and she is indeed hot with big tits but she flaked out and pulled some shit about wanting to nonsexually date first.

Vicious vixen. Two bills to romp, a great BBBJ with her tongue ring. She's a stripper that may have relocated to Tampa.

Also FYI. Beware of the girl "Kyla" fka "Audrey" - she has been changing profiles (scammer?) and pulled a bait and switch trying to charge a grand.

Be safe!

[QUOTE=Lpmrhahn;2826957]1) hot Latinas chick about 5 min from my office. Few days of talking via text, and $100 later I'm balls deep behind the most amazing ass I've seen in person. Even let me take video and pics. Plan on making this a regular thing.

2) the most gorgeous woman I've ever been with. 5'0 tall Asian with an amazing body, more American than stick figure Asian. Dinner, a cigar, and a couple drinks later were pulled over at a park laying on the ground and I'm pounding her from behind with a thumb up her ass while she squirts all over the ground. Plan on making this one an even more regular thing.

God bless you guys and this site.[/QUOTE]I think I need to switch to non-white girls who don't think their pussy is golden. .

I decided to upgrade to premium for a month since there was a good deal. Figure what the hell. A few days in I have a few observations / questions:

1. It's surprisingly easy to make contact with these chicks. As others have stated, the sealing the deal phase might be longer, but I've gotten quicker responses from these girls than some of the girls who are actually in the biz.

2. Regarding sealing the deal, anyone have any tips on how you bring up the topic? I can navigate a text conversation fairly well with a SP but these girls are different. I've played the noob card with some I've texted and they are willing to tell me what they've had in the past and how the arrangement worked and what they expect, but one girl got super pissed when I didn't just throw out a number. I want to know what I'm getting into, but don't want to overpay. Any thoughts are helpful.

3. I've yet to be on a date yet, but do you treat it similar to as if you were actually dating them? Wine and dine them and then when the time is right make the move? Or is it pretty obvious and you can bypass the formalities?

4. I'm not here to judge, and I've already gleaned great intel from this thread, but it might do us well to be careful posting screen names publicly. I'm no expert in the law, but you may be walking a fine legal ground by posting their screen names. Maybe we can share intel like we normally would with any UTR on the main boards?

5. It's helpful if we talk about locations. I have fun during the day which means I want to meet SBs who are near my office. I can tell you I work on the east side of town and am trying to find options near UCF. If others would be so kind as to share general locations in reviews, we'll probably help each other out a lot more.

These are just thoughts and questions from someone new to the SB game. I'm very seasoned on the main boards, but am a total noob with this. Please don't jump on my back.

I'm looking forward to fishing in this new pond and will keep you all posted on the happenings on my side of town.

[QUOTE=BraddyWestSide;2828102]I decided to upgrade to premium for a month since there was a good deal. Figure what the hell. A few days in I have a few observations / questions:

1. It's surprisingly easy to make contact with these chicks. As others have stated, the sealing the deal phase might be longer, but I've gotten quicker responses from these girls than some of the girls who are actually in the biz.

2. Regarding sealing the deal, anyone have any tips on how you bring up the topic? I can navigate a text conversation fairly well with a SP but these girls are different. I've played the noob card with some I've texted and they are willing to tell me what they've had in the past and how the arrangement worked and what they expect, but one girl got super pissed when I didn't just throw out a number. I want to know what I'm getting into, but don't want to overpay. Any thoughts are helpful.

3. I've yet to be on a date yet, but do you treat it similar to as if you were actually dating them? Wine and dine them and then when the time is right make the move? Or is it pretty obvious and you can bypass the formalities?

4. I'm not here to judge, and I've already gleaned great intel from this thread, but it might do us well to be careful posting screen names publicly. I'm no expert in the law, but you may be walking a fine legal ground by posting their screen names. Maybe we can share intel like we normally would with any UTR on the main boards?

5. It's helpful if we talk about locations. I have fun during the day which means I want to meet SBs who are near my office. I can tell you I work on the east side of town and am trying to find options near UCF. If others would be so kind as to share general locations in reviews, we'll probably help each other out a lot more.

These are just thoughts and questions from someone new to the SB game. I'm very seasoned on the main boards, but am a total noob with this. Please don't jump on my back.

I'm looking forward to fishing in this new pond and will keep you all posted on the happenings on my side of town.[/QUOTE]First off these girls pretty well know what is expected. Secondly go read the Richmond Va thread on SB. This will answer all your questions.

When you find someone your interested in don't treat them like a escort. If you have the experience you say you have then you will know a pro or utr girl after the first few text. Don't as for nude pics, if they have them they will be more happy to share them if they feel your interested. Don't endless text, set up a m / g as soon as possible and for gods sake don't pay someone to meet you. Do this in a public place so she will feel safe. Buy coffee or lunch and talk, probably take an hour or so. If your both comfortable then talk arrangement. Remember everything is negotiable. All details can be worked out there.

There is crash course, good luck.

[QUOTE=SA2222;2827084]So I'm having trouble getting what I ultimately want out of seeking arrangement. I want a hot college aged girl to be put on my "payroll" but it's damn near impossible to get a good girl on there. I really think SA has become such a meat market. The attractive girls want crazy money, 1000+. And they seem so nonchalant as if that's easy for them. Are there really guys out there paying girls 1000+ for one date? I mean I can't tell a guy how to spend his money but I simply can't compete with that. And competing is what I feel I'm constantly doing. Too many girls are flakey, cancelling at last minute (likely getting better offers) or not responding to texts timely. It just feels like it's such a sellers market that they don't give a shit. I guess with all the tourism in Orlando this is big business for girls perhaps. I've seen some of the less expensive girls. The escorts and strippers. And they are always fun but I'm actually looking for a "sugar baby" and it seems extremely difficult to find one at a reasonable cost and that isn't try to rip you off. And I'm a pretty normal guy, looks and personality, so I'm not necessarily blaming myself. Maybe I need to adjust my expectations. Thoughts?

As a previous poster said, I met mollysunflower and she is indeed hot with big tits but she flaked out and pulled some shit about wanting to nonsexually date first.

Vicious vixen. Two bills to romp, a great BBBJ with her tongue ring. She's a stripper that may have relocated to Tampa.

Also FYI. Beware of the girl "Kyla" fka "Audrey" - she has been changing profiles (scammer?) and pulled a bait and switch trying to charge a grand.

Be safe![/QUOTE]You talking about mixin vixen?

I had a gal reach out to me, cute little blonde from MN. Says she is here just on vacation, but her bio is only a few days old, and her occupation is listed as dancer. So I'm guessing she is here for bike week. Anyway, she was quick to ask for a lunch date so I said sure. We meet tomorrow, I'm thinking this is a point and shoot deal, but still wondering if there are any clues to be on the lookout for if its not what I think? Right now my biggest challenge is I'm not taking her back to my place, and I think all the hotels are sold out. I figure she must have a room if she's visiting.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2828141]First off these girls pretty well know what is expected. Secondly go read the Richmond Va thread on SB. This will answer all your questions.

When you find someone your interested in don't treat them like a escort. If you have the experience you say you have then you will know a pro or utr girl after the first few text. Don't as for nude pics, if they have them they will be more happy to share them if they feel your interested. Don't endless text, set up a m / g as soon as possible and for gods sake don't pay someone to meet you. Do this in a public place so she will feel safe. Buy coffee or lunch and talk, probably take an hour or so. If your both comfortable then talk arrangement. Remember everything is negotiable. All details can be worked out there.

There is crash course, good luck.[/QUOTE]Agree with all of the above. Yes in the end its sex, but you have to approach differently. They like to hear they have a nice face, smile etc. Treat them as you would a GF. I always let them know up front that I am looking for something that is not just platonic. Then you have your bases covered if they are looking for only that. No details really are needed. Meet for a drink or lunch and see if there is a connection. They will want that before they make any moves. Think of it as a more formal, polite way of escorting. They don't want a meet and fuck.

The first dinner drinks should be just that. They want to feel safe. So be open about that. "lets just meet for drinks and if we have a connection we can plan another date next week" if things seem to be good during your first date then start talking about details. I usually say, " in the past arrangements, I enjoy dinner, drinks, whatever (a few hours out having a date) and then I like to have some quite time as well. I have always taken care of the dinner. Whatever and leave 200 after our fun. Will that work?

I have had several say well I don't do it for less then 300 and then I say well I don't don't do it more then 200. Either we both give a little or she does. I don't pay over 225 if she is hosting. If I have to get the room I include that with my costs and say I can leave you 150 but don't forget I am taking care of the room and dinner drinks etc. They usually are pretty good about it. I have never had bad service because she wanted 300 and she took 200. Again different mind set here. If she is out and having fun 50 or 100 is not going to be a deal breaker. Now the ones that want 1000 no fucking way and I will not even discuss after I see that number. I tell them thanks and good luck.

Also don't pay them anything for the first meet. Its just a meet. See if you two have a connection. But you should pay for any meals / drinks etc.

EFM out!

BTW got a new date tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2828657]Agree with all of the above. Yes in the end its sex, but you have to approach differently. They like to hear they have a nice face, smile etc. Treat them as you would a GF. I always let them know up front that I am looking for something that is not just platonic. Then you have your bases covered if they are looking for only that. No details really are needed. Meet for a drink or lunch and see if there is a connection. They will want that before they make any moves. Think of it as a more formal, polite way of escorting. They don't want a meet and fuck.

The first dinner drinks should be just that. They want to feel safe. So be open about that. "lets just meet for drinks and if we have a connection we can plan another date next week" if things seem to be good during your first date then start talking about details. I usually say, " in the past arrangements, I enjoy dinner, drinks, whatever (a few hours out having a date) and then I like to have some quite time as well. I have always taken care of the dinner. Whatever and leave 200 after our fun. Will that work?

I have had several say well I don't do it for less then 300 and then I say well I don't don't do it more then 200. Either we both give a little or she does. I don't pay over 225 if she is hosting. If I have to get the room I include that with my costs and say I can leave you 150 but don't forget I am taking care of the room and dinner drinks etc. They usually are pretty good about it. I have never had bad service because she wanted 300 and she took 200. Again different mind set here. If she is out and having fun 50 or 100 is not going to be a deal breaker. Now the ones that want 1000 no fucking way and I will not even discuss after I see that number. I tell them thanks and good luck.

Also don't pay them anything for the first meet. Its just a meet. See if you two have a connection. But you should pay for any meals / drinks etc.

EFM out!

BTW got a new date tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Thanks EFman and John Hancock; I appreciate the guidance. I'll check out the VA thread as well.

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2828624]You talking about mixin vixen?[/QUOTE]Not her, another vixen, from Dallas who was in Orlando for several weeks and said she was going to Tampa.

So what are you guys putting in your bios? I've pretty much put that I was looking for short term deals. I've got a few conversations going right now. All of them saying they are on the verge of meeting. Are you guys putting what you do?, bragging about what you have?

The one from MN tried to play me, but I kind of saw it coming, she wanted to get paid to do lunch, and it went from her to we as in there were 2 of them. She tried to wait till the last minute to say anything but I made sure I had a couple of back up plans to keep myself busy just for that reason. Little head did not have a say.

[QUOTE=SA2222;2829108]Not her, another vixen, from Dallas who was in Orlando for several weeks and said she was going to Tampa.[/QUOTE]So meet my date with no plans of anything other then just a few drinks. Ee meet at 6 and ended the evening with me leaving her place at 10 (so 4 hours, about 2 out and 2 in) $200 and I left my load of cum all over her stomach and she loved it. Was begging me to shoot my load all over her. So I had to giver her what she wanted. Round 2 for next week. God I love horny, hot little college girls.

[QUOTE=BoredAtHome99;2831374]So what are you guys putting in your bios? I've pretty much put that I was looking for short term deals. I've got a few conversations going right now. All of them saying they are on the verge of meeting. Are you guys putting what you do?, bragging about what you have?

.[/QUOTE]Bragging. Are you not reading what we have been posting. NO.

Putting what we do? As in Hey I just want to fuck you for 200? NO Treat them like you would your real GF.

[QUOTE=SA2222;2829108]Not her, another vixen, from Dallas who was in Orlando for several weeks and said she was going to Tampa.[/QUOTE]I had a conversation going months ago with mixed vixen. She wanted I think 400, I ended the conversation.

[QUOTE=BoredAtHome99;2831374]So what are you guys putting in your bios? I've pretty much put that I was looking for short term deals. I've got a few conversations going right now. All of them saying they are on the verge of meeting. Are you guys putting what you do?, bragging about what you have?

The one from MN tried to play me, but I kind of saw it coming, she wanted to get paid to do lunch, and it went from her to we as in there were 2 of them. She tried to wait till the last minute to say anything but I made sure I had a couple of back up plans to keep myself busy just for that reason. Little head did not have a say.[/QUOTE]In my Bio I do say locals only. I do said I am attached but looking for a regular meeting.

Just wanted to verify that if you follow the advice about SA here, treat the girls with respect & have a little patience, you will find what you are looking for. Still working on a 19 year old spinner but the 25+ girls know what to do. Enjoy!

Can anyone tell me if the Amber Inn in Kissimmee is decent to use as an afternoon SS. If not, what near to that would be recommended. Sorry to be asking these questions guys, but as you know I am new to the area. Thanks for the help. I'm just strating to get my hobbying going again.

This is sort of like being a newbie all over again. Ugh.