Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=TommyGibbs;2469459]I just have to rant somewhere about this. Am I the only one who HATES when a provider talks about other clients when I'm there? I don't need to know what someone else did, how many dicks you sucked that afternoon, or who tried to steal from you. In most cases, I'm paying for you to act like you enjoy sucking my dick and my dick alone for 10 minutes. It's such a turn off that I now leave when I hear that bullshit. Now, I do like hearing "you're the first guy I'm seeing today. " That's borderline acceptable.[/QUOTE]Yep. I HATE that. I've ended sessions (or "regular" situations) upon hearing stuff like I was the 8th guy she's had that day, so-and-so that she had smelled like he hadn't showered, and so-and-so fucked her so hard that when he pulled out his cock was (unexpectedly) covered in menstrual blood / yeast / etc.

Like you said, the more the provider can make the fantasy be, or at least seem, real, the better.

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[QUOTE]EDITOR's NOTE This report was edited or deleted to remove Anti-Prostitution messages. Please do not use this Forum to espouse anti-prostitution, anti-commercial sex, or other similar sociological, political or religious beliefs. If you're against the idea of contractual sex, then get the fuck off my forum. Thanks![/QUOTE]A shame. That kind of post belongs in [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?89-Read-the-Hate-Mail.[/URL] We haven't had anything new there for years.

Since I was the one who started this thread I need to start posting more in it. LOL. A few recent rants of mines:

1. What's the difference in paying $60 for a quickie compared to $80-$100 for a quickie. I see alot of chics on backpage now asking for $80-$100 for QV 15 minutes and I'm like yeah right!! No way in hell but then I read reviews and there are some guys that are actually paying $80-$100 sometimes even $125 (wow!) for a quick nut. The funny thing is, I read the reviews and nothing about the reviews stand out to me at all. Everything covered, no GFE and I'm like what makes her service worth $80? I can get the same thing for $50-$60 bucks. Just because a chics in Buckhead, Dunwoody and Kennessaw that doesn't mean her services are better than a chic in say Stone Mountain or Riverdale. What are you paying for? A better looking girl? A safer environment? Definitely not a better service because nothing about the service, review wise, sticks out to me.

2. Can the moderates of this site please open a new thread entitled "UTR's or my hoes I'm trying to peddle". I'm tired of going into different threads and reading " I got this utr here and I got this friend here hit me up for the details". There should be a specific thread designed for that to keep all thread responses relevent. And one more thing. Dude, if I see your utr on backpage or I have a porn vid of your UTR, guess what? She's not a fucking UTR! What I consider under the radar is a chic who doesn't work for an agency, never had an ad on the internet and generally doesn't do this sort of thing everyday. When I first came to the site people like DonMack, LowKey and others had real utrs. These were chics they met in the streets, clubs and otherwise and they put them on to the "game". That is a utr!! A chic who works for an agency, has / had ads on backpage and the likes is not a UTR!

3. BBFS. No harm, but I'm shocked at the amount of dudes on here that inquire or engage in BBFS with some of these chics. Some of these chics you guys are BBFS'ing with are the most nastiest worn out hood rats I've ever seen. These chics are down for BBFS for as low as $50-$60 and some have a history of poor hygiene and you guys are ramming it in like there's no tomorrow. Are you kidding me? Some of these chics are in the slummest of slums in the shittiest motels and you dudes are raw dogging it. Some of these chics are known IV drug users. What? Even a chic like Shelly is getting raw dogged on the regular. How are you people still alive? Some of you people must have 21 lives. I can't fathom banging any of these chics raw dog, especially the ones with like over 100 reviews. Jeez.

4. Dudes, please get a clue! The majority of these backpage chics are not new to this. About 80% of them in my opinion have been doing this thing for a while now (a few years). I'm tired of seeing guys saying things like "she's new in town", "she said she just started doing this", "she said she's only been this for a few weeks". Lies! Lies! Lies! The majority of these backpage chics have been doing this (selling ass) for many years. Some probably even started in high school. These chics are all friends of friends of friends who all introduce each other to the art of hustling fast money. Once they start getting shitty reviews, they just change their wigs, phone numbers and name and start the same scam again. Get real buds!!

5. What's with all these outcalls only on backpage all of a sudden. Just about every chic and their momma's doing "outcalls only". Guys, don't fall for that. Alot of these chics are coming out with their pimps that will drive any and everywhere for that check. Be very vigilant of chics who are doing "outcalls only". Alot of them are just looking for that quick buck because they know outcalls are instant money. With incalls, they're not sure if guys will come or not because many do flake. With outcalls, its a higher possibility of them getting the date and the check. Most are just looking for fast money anyways. A funny story sometime ago. I called some chics on backpage whose ad stated that they were in the Druid Hills area. I talked to the chic and she kept asking me if I wanted to do an outcall (her come to me). I said "No, I'll come to you".

This chic text me the address. I get to the destination some 30 minutes later and call her. I look to my right and see 2 hoodrat looking chics in a white OJ Simpson Ford Bronco smoking weed. I had a feeling it was them so I got out of my car and walked around the corner and called back. They asked me what kind of car I was driving and of course I lied to them as always. They drove around the motel to where they thought I was and my inclination was correct. It was them! They looked nothing like their pics and come to find out, they didn't even have a room. They just came from out of town and was waiting for room to open, so they say. They just placed an ad on backpage to make fast money. That was the reason the girl on the phone kept trying to push an outcall on me. Because they didn't have a damn room and was looking for fast money! You got to watch these chics on backpage, especially the unreviewed ones. Many are running a hustle game.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;2513314]
2. Can the moderates of this site please open a new thread entitled "UTR's or my hoes I'm trying to peddle". I'm tired of going into different threads and reading " I got this utr here and I got this friend here hit me up for the details". There should be a specific thread designed for that to keep all thread responses relevent. And one more thing. Dude, if I see your utr on backpage or I have a porn vid of your UTR, guess what? She's not a fucking UTR! What I consider under the radar is a chic who doesn't work for an agency, never had an ad on the internet and generally doesn't do this sort of thing everyday. When I first came to the site people like DonMack, LowKey and others had real utrs. These were chics they met in the streets, clubs and otherwise and they put them on to the "game". That is a utr!! A chic who works for an agency, has / had ads on backpage and the likes is not a UTR!
r.[/QUOTE]Awesome post (rant). Definately need to start a thread where all the "Peddlers (Don't Call me a Pimp)" can post their wares. Bottomline: if you are consistently requiring guys to contact you to get info, you are peddling (not pimiping because you don't like that word, so you peddling). Period. You might not be directly receiving a split of payment but you peddling.

Also need a separate thread for all of these worthless posts that say "Any Info?" (or similar) and a backpage link (which is usually dead within a day of posting. Dude you are the one asking for help! Make it easy for a brother monger to help you or at least give them a hook like, "Look at the ta ta's on Brandi, anybody motorboat them yet?

At a minimum put a name, brief description and part of town. Ideally put a couple of pics up as attachments so we can see who you are talking about when (yes, when, not if) her ad comes down. Remember you are the one looking for info. Help us help you. And, yeah, mods make a separate thread for this, "Info Wanted".

[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;2513314]Since I was the one who started this thread I need to start posting more in it. LOL. A few recent rants of mines:

1. What's the difference in paying $60 for a quickie compared to $80-$100 for a quickie. I see alot of chics on backpage now asking for $80-$100 for QV 15 minutes and I'm like yeah right!! No way in hell but then I read reviews and there are some guys that are actually paying $80-$100 sometimes even $125 (wow!) for a quick nut. The funny thing is, I read the reviews and nothing about the reviews stand out to me at all. Everything covered, no GFE and I'm like what makes her service worth $80? I can get the same thing for $50-$60 bucks. Just because a chics in Buckhead, Dunwoody and Kennessaw that doesn't mean her services are better than a chic in say Stone Mountain or Riverdale. What are you paying for? A better looking girl? A safer environment? Definitely not a better service because nothing about the service, review wise, sticks out to me.

2. Can the moderates of this site please open a new thread entitled "UTR's or my hoes I'm trying to peddle". I'm tired of going into different threads and reading " I got this utr here and I got this friend here hit me up for the details". There should be a specific thread designed for that to keep all thread responses relevent. And one more thing. Dude, if I see your utr on backpage or I have a porn vid of your UTR, guess what? She's not a fucking UTR! What I consider under the radar is a chic who doesn't work for an agency, never had an ad on the internet and generally doesn't do this sort of thing everyday. When I first came to the site people like DonMack, LowKey and others had real utrs. These were chics they met in the streets, clubs and otherwise and they put them on to the "game". That is a utr!! A chic who works for an agency, has / had ads on backpage and the likes is not a UTR!

3. BBFS. No harm, but I'm shocked at the amount of dudes on here that inquire or engage in BBFS with some of these chics. Some of these chics you guys are BBFS'ing with are the most nastiest worn out hood rats I've ever seen. These chics are down for BBFS for as low as $50-$60 and some have a history of poor hygiene and you guys are ramming it in like there's no tomorrow. Are you kidding me? Some of these chics are in the slummest of slums in the shittiest motels and you dudes are raw dogging it. Some of these chics are known IV drug users. What? Even a chic like Shelly is getting raw dogged on the regular. How are you people still alive? Some of you people must have 21 lives. I can't fathom banging any of these chics raw dog, especially the ones with like over 100 reviews. Jeez.

4. Dudes, please get a clue! The majority of these backpage chics are not new to this. About 80% of them in my opinion have been doing this thing for a while now (a few years). I'm tired of seeing guys saying things like "she's new in town", "she said she just started doing this", "she said she's only been this for a few weeks". Lies! Lies! Lies! The majority of these backpage chics have been doing this (selling ass) for many years. Some probably even started in high school. These chics are all friends of friends of friends who all introduce each other to the art of hustling fast money. Once they start getting shitty reviews, they just change their wigs, phone numbers and name and start the same scam again. Get real buds!!

5. What's with all these outcalls only on backpage all of a sudden. Just about every chic and their momma's doing "outcalls only". Guys, don't fall for that. Alot of these chics are coming out with their pimps that will drive any and everywhere for that check. Be very vigilant of chics who are doing "outcalls only". Alot of them are just looking for that quick buck because they know outcalls are instant money. With incalls, they're not sure if guys will come or not because many do flake. With outcalls, its a higher possibility of them getting the date and the check. Most are just looking for fast money anyways. A funny story sometime ago. I called some chics on backpage whose ad stated that they were in the Druid Hills area. I talked to the chic and she kept asking me if I wanted to do an outcall (her come to me). I said "No, I'll come to you".

This chic text me the address. I get to the destination some 30 minutes later and call her. I look to my right and see 2 hoodrat looking chics in a white OJ Simpson Ford Bronco smoking weed. I had a feeling it was them so I got out of my car and walked around the corner and called back. They asked me what kind of car I was driving and of course I lied to them as always. They drove around the motel to where they thought I was and my inclination was correct. It was them! They looked nothing like their pics and come to find out, they didn't even have a room. They just came from out of town and was waiting for room to open, so they say. They just placed an ad on backpage to make fast money. That was the reason the girl on the phone kept trying to push an outcall on me. Because they didn't have a damn room and was looking for fast money! You got to watch these chics on backpage, especially the unreviewed ones. Many are running a hustle game.[/QUOTE]Classic and spot on. Board has changed a lot since joined and not for the better.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;2513314]2. Can the moderates of this site please open a new thread entitled "UTR's or my hoes I'm trying to peddle". I'm tired of going into different threads and reading " I got this utr here and I got this friend here hit me up for the details". There should be a specific thread designed for that to keep all thread responses relevent. And one more thing. Dude, if I see your utr on backpage or I have a porn vid of your UTR, guess what? She's not a fucking UTR! What I consider under the radar is a chic who doesn't work for an agency, never had an ad on the internet and generally doesn't do this sort of thing everyday. When I first came to the site people like DonMack, LowKey and others had real utrs. These were chics they met in the streets, clubs and otherwise and they put them on to the "game". That is a utr!! A chic who works for an agency, has / had ads on backpage and the likes is not a UTR!

3. BBFS. No harm, but I'm shocked at the amount of dudes on here that inquire or engage in BBFS with some of these chics. Some of these chics you guys are BBFS'ing with are the most nastiest worn out hood rats I've ever seen. These chics are down for BBFS for as low as $50-$60 and some have a history of poor hygiene and you guys are ramming it in like there's no tomorrow. Are you kidding me? Some of these chics are in the slummest of slums in the shittiest motels and you dudes are raw dogging it. Some of these chics are known IV drug users. What? Even a chic like Shelly is getting raw dogged on the regular. How are you people still alive? Some of you people must have 21 lives. I can't fathom banging any of these chics raw dog, especially the ones with like over 100 reviews. Jeez.[/QUOTE]UTR's: I've seen UTR threads in other cities. No reason not to have one here.

BBFS: I couldn't agree more. I'm surprised how many mongers seek it out. I use the posts about the girls that provide it as a filter for which ones I won't see. I'm also a lot more selective about which girls I'll do BBBJ because of it. Also, I've started using the sugar daddy and arrangement sites. Most of those girls are selective and low volume.

AVB.

[QUOTE=AdamVb;2515870]UTR's: I've seen UTR threads in other cities. No reason not to have one here.

BBFS: I couldn't agree more. I'm surprised how many mongers seek it out. I use the posts about the girls that provide it as a filter for which ones I won't see. I'm also a lot more selective about which girls I'll do BBBJ because of it. Also, I've started using the sugar daddy and arrangement sites. Most of those girls are selective and low volume.

AVB.[/QUOTE]Personally, I hate it when I set a monger up with a UTR who then makes a date, has the UTR drive 50 mile across town to their house for an appointment where the monger is a no call, no show. Punk move, don't you think, Adam?

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;2515880]Personally, I hate it when I set a monger up with a UTR who then makes a date, has the UTR drive 50 mile across town to their house for an appointment where the monger is a no call, no show. Punk move, don't you think, Adam?[/QUOTE]Now that's some straight up punk moves there.

[QUOTE=DishowuPlay;2515960]Now that's some straight up punk moves there.[/QUOTE]Infer what you will, but I only asked Adam if he agreed that that is a punk move. Dish, I owe you some intel, I'll be in contact soon.

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;2516046]Infer what you will, but I only asked Adam if he agreed that that is a punk move. Dish, I owe you some intel, I'll be in contact soon.[/QUOTE]

Yes. I agree it's a punk move.

No. I've never done that, if that is being insinuated. 1) I've never done outcall. 2) AH has never connected me with a UTR.

AVB.

Most department have a few tag readers. Some dept. Keep the info for years. And share with any L. E. Agency that wants it. It shows a pic. Of the vehicle, location and runs the reg. Owners info and a warrant at the same time. This is based on the system purchased. I think I will park a dist. Away during a visit. And get some exercise.

For the one millionth time just talk plain English and use numbers. Slang, euphemisms and code do nothing but confuse the reader and make you look like a newbie.

Oh and start a thread for buy / sell / trade / review male enhancements. No need to tell everyone in the reviews section over and over you just got your blue diamonds (in stock).

[QUOTE=DurandPaul;2548565][URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/kimmy-staxxx-all-real-50-inches-leaving-atl-special/29893938[/URL]

This chick is short and fat. I had that feeling that she was hidding her shape in the pictures but it was late. I was looking for a big booty chick. Call this girl. Gave me the address. When I got in her room she picked up another call. I put the money on the table. After her call, she counted the money to make sure I gave her the right amount.

This bird didn't even say hi to me, she then get on the bed after putting the condom on the bed. At this point I m waiting on her to put it on and give be a CBJ. After a minute of her not doing anything I just put the condom my self. She bends over for doggy. I don't even feel no thing, pussy is loose. Then she picked up another call and start to argue with the guy over the phone because the guy was asking her if she was alone. When she hung up, I told her to get off the bed. Then she said to keep going in this position and I only a had 15 min session. When she said that, I pulled out and removed the condom. Got dressed and left without her saying any word.[/QUOTE]Wow!! Thank you for the review Durand! I'm glad I didn't go see her, she has been on my radar.

If it was me in your situation, I would have fukin lost it. I can't stand when any chick, provider or not plays with my hard earned bucks.

I just don't understand what's wrong with these hoes. Being an "escort" is so fukin easy, just lay down and cooperate. Be nice for for like 30 min and collect good cash FAST.

The average man in this state works his azz off, hard physical labor for only 10 bucks an hour. All providers have to do is be nice and lay down for 15 mins and earn double what the hard working man earns.

These hoes must be mentally ill or something, she will get what's coming to her though. Karma is a bigger beyatch than her!!

[QUOTE=ParrotRange;2549186]Wow!! Thank you for the review Durand! I'm glad I didn't go see her, she has been on my radar.

If it was me in your situation, I would have fukin lost it. I can't stand when any chick, provider or not plays with my hard earned bucks.

I just don't understand what's wrong with these hoes. Being an "escort" is so fukin easy, just lay down and cooperate. Be nice for for like 30 min and collect good cash FAST.

The average man in this state works his azz off, hard physical labor for only 10 bucks an hour. All providers have to do is be nice and lay down for 15 mins and earn double what the hard working man earns.

These hoes must be mentally ill or something, she will get what's coming to her though. Karma is a bigger beyatch than her!![/QUOTE]You aren't comparing a real job to one that you give up your body to others are you? I don't care how much the wage is, shit ain't even close to the same. F getting mad with these girls, just leave. It's all in the game. (the wire) lol

[QUOTE=ParrotRange;2549186]
I just don't understand what's wrong with these hoes. Being an "escort" is so fukin easy, just lay down and cooperate. Be nice for for like 30 min and collect good cash FAST.

The average man in this state works his azz off, hard physical labor for only 10 bucks an hour. All providers have to do is be nice and lay down for 15 mins and earn double what the hard working man earns.

These hoes must be mentally ill or something, she will get what's coming to her though. Karma is a bigger beyatch than her!![/QUOTE]Really, so you think escorting is easy? Not defending some of these girls actions, but maybe you should spend a day in their shoes and experience the BS providers go through on a daily basis. It would drive anyone bat shit crazy. From stalkers, time wasters, thieves, to guys clueless about hygiene, pimps / wannabe pimps, short changers, people with serious mental / psychotic issues. It certainly is not an easy job.

[QUOTE=NuGuy36;2549243]Really, so you think escorting is easy? Not defending some of these girls actions, but maybe you should spend a day in their shoes and experience the BS providers go through on a daily basis. It would drive anyone bat shit crazy. From stalkers, time wasters, thieves, to guys clueless about hygiene, pimps / wannabe pimps, short changers, people with serious mental / psychotic issues. It certainly is not an easy job.[/QUOTE]Those "girls", the independent ones that is. They're doing this out of their own free will. They know what the hell they're getting into even before they get into it. They all think they can make fast money by tricking a "trick" out of his money. They don't think about any consequences.

If they can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I predict in 2 months time this chic will be running $40 specials and will be a thing of the past.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;2549260]Those "girls", the independent ones that is. They're doing this out of their own free will. They know what the hell they're getting into even before they get into it. They all think they can make fast money by tricking a "trick" out of his money. They don't think about any consequences.

If they can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I predict in 2 months time this chic will be running $40 specials and will be a thing of the past.[/QUOTE]I think this is why some ladies offer rates of $400+/ hr just to weed out the serial time wasters, stalkers, etc, but then there are wackobirds at every price point or maybe fewer of them.

[QUOTE=NuGuy36;2549243]Really, so you think escorting is easy? Not defending some of these girls actions, but maybe you should spend a day in their shoes and experience the BS providers go through on a daily basis. It would drive anyone bat shit crazy. From stalkers, time wasters, thieves, to guys clueless about hygiene, pimps / wannabe pimps, short changers, people with serious mental / psychotic issues. It certainly is not an easy job.[/QUOTE]Wow, I am really shocked and disappointed with the simp mentality some of you guys have. Maybe I will become more numb to the bullshizz once I get older.

I'm with Johnny Mapalo in this one guys. These hoez know EXACTLY what they are doing and EXACTLY what risks are involved. Yet they still do it, why is that?

Its because the cash flow outweighs whatever bs they might face. Quit defending them tooth and nail.

What entry level position will pay you 80 bucks an hour without actually having to lift a finger? That alone should make them All provide great service.

They ALL make big money trust me, even the cheap 40 special girls Make around 400 a day.

Despite what you older, arrogant and rich mongers think $400 a day is a lot of dam money. That alone can cover rent for a month for many of these providers living in budget apartments / motels. Then the next day they make $400 again, possibly more.

They have a large disposable income, don't even forget the regulars. I know some are bad with money or wasteful but even then they are making huge bucks fast! Really dam fast.

They make more than enough to be considered middle class, while hardworking men and women make living on waaay less than them.

Nail in the coffin, the job is easy and QUICK money every damn day. Most don't even have to drive, just wait for thirsty mongers to drop off big loads of cash before being scammed, disrespected or just given poor service.

ALL of these "working" girls make more than enough cash to give DECENT service to EVERYONE.

ANYONE who thinks differently is a naive simp. Point. Blank. Period.

The job is easy, get over it. I can understand cheap streetwalkers having bad service but not bp girls.

And Nuguy36 there is nothing "lady" like about being a hoe.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;2549260]Those "girls", the independent ones that is. They're doing this out of their own free will. They know what the hell they're getting into even before they get into it. They all think they can make fast money by tricking a "trick" out of his money. They don't think about any consequences.

If they can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I predict in 2 months time this chic will be running $40 specials and will be a thing of the past.[/QUOTE]Johnny M has a point. I think most girls who have a pimp don't need one. Pimping is the only profession and I say that loosely that takes a bigger cut than the person that is actually doing the work. Either the pimp of the girl decides to put up a fake picture or the girl does. Either way it is bad for business. They tend not to get repeat customers and they have to move all over the place and change numbers. If they are independent you tend to get better service from these hoes with our being scammed.

And gentleman we have to remind ourselves only a handful of hoes I mean escorts we meet are worthy of getting to know outside of their tricking. The rest of them hoes are what they are. Hoes. Know different from the hoes you meet at the club, sports bar or social event buy a few drinks take her back to your place or hers and fuck the same night or morning or the next time yall meet, all the same thing.

Don't lose perspective in this game of hunting.

Play safe happy hunting. FYI just my 2 $.

[QUOTE=NuGuy36;2549355]I think this is why some ladies offer rates of $400+/ hr just to weed out the serial time wasters, stalkers, etc, but then there are wackobirds at every price point or maybe fewer of them.[/QUOTE]If they don't find enough takes the prices will drop. Just be patient.

[QUOTE=ParrotRange;2549378]Wow, I am really shocked and disappointed with the simp mentality some of you guys have. Maybe I will become more numb to the bullshizz once I get older.

I'm with Johnny Mapalo in this one guys. These hoez know EXACTLY what they are doing and EXACTLY what risks are involved. Yet they still do it, why is that?

Its because the cash flow outweighs whatever bs they might face. Quit defending them tooth and nail.

What entry level position will pay you 80 bucks an hour without actually having to lift a finger? That alone should make them All provide great service.

They ALL make big money trust me, even the cheap 40 special girls Make around 400 a day.

Despite what you older, arrogant and rich mongers think $400 a day is a lot of dam money. That alone can cover rent for a month for many of these providers living in budget apartments / motels. Then the next day they make $400 again, possibly more.

They have a large disposable income, don't even forget the regulars. I know some are bad with money or wasteful but even then they are making huge bucks fast! Really dam fast.

They make more than enough to be considered middle class, while hardworking men and women make living on waaay less than them.

Nail in the coffin, the job is easy and QUICK money every damn day. Most don't even have to drive, just wait for thirsty mongers to drop off big loads of cash before being scammed, disrespected or just given poor service.

ALL of these "working" girls make more than enough cash to give DECENT service to EVERYONE.

ANYONE who thinks differently is a naive simp. Point. Blank. Period.

The job is easy, get over it. I can understand cheap streetwalkers having bad service but not bp girls.

And Nuguy36 there is nothing "lady" like about being a hoe.[/QUOTE]Patriot range Is feeling some type of way.

This morning. LOL.

From the famous words of willy the from ghetto boys. Hoe. Yo pussy is no more important than my dick *****.

[QUOTE=ParrotRange;2549378]Wow, I am really shocked and disappointed with the simp mentality some of you guys have. Maybe I will become more numb to the bullshizz once I get older.

I'm with Johnny Mapalo in this one guys. These hoez know EXACTLY what they are doing and EXACTLY what risks are involved. Yet they still do it, why is that?

Its because the cash flow outweighs whatever bs they might face. Quit defending them tooth and nail.

What entry level position will pay you 80 bucks an hour without actually having to lift a finger? That alone should make them All provide great service.

They ALL make big money trust me, even the cheap 40 special girls Make around 400 a day.

Despite what you older, arrogant and rich mongers think $400 a day is a lot of dam money. That alone can cover rent for a month for many of these providers living in budget apartments / motels. Then the next day they make $400 again, possibly more.

They have a large disposable income, don't even forget the regulars. I know some are bad with money or wasteful but even then they are making huge bucks fast! Really dam fast.

They make more than enough to be considered middle class, while hardworking men and women make living on waaay less than them.

Nail in the coffin, the job is easy and QUICK money every damn day. Most don't even have to drive, just wait for thirsty mongers to drop off big loads of cash before being scammed, disrespected or just given poor service.

ALL of these "working" girls make more than enough cash to give DECENT service to EVERYONE.

ANYONE who thinks differently is a naive simp. Point. Blank. Period.

The job is easy, get over it. I can understand cheap streetwalkers having bad service but not bp girls.

And Nuguy36 there is nothing "lady" like about being a hoe.[/QUOTE]Let's assumed they are making $400 a day. Multiply that by 5, like in a 5 day work week. That comes out to be $2 K a week and you multiply that by 4, like in 4 weeks in a month, that comes out to be 8 K a month. Remember, there is no FICA, federal or state tax withholding in these transactions. In the real world, you would have to be making around $50/ hr for the same amount of money, before taxes.

[QUOTE=PayForItAnyway;2549411]If they don't find enough takes the prices will drop. Just be patient.[/QUOTE]It's not about volume with these $400+ girls, one or two birds a day is enough to to keep them happy. A BP girl offering quickies for $40 would need to see 10 guys to clear $400 or 20 guys to clear $800. Please show me a woman, any woman, fucking such a huge volume of men, to be of stable mind and provide consistent service. It's simple in the p4p business, you get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=NuGuy36;2549428]It's not about volume with these $400+ girls, one or two birds a day is enough to to keep them happy. A BP girl offering quickies for $40 would need to see 10 guys to clear $400 or 20 guys to clear $800. Please show me a woman, any woman, fucking such a huge volume of men, to be of stable mind and provide consistent service. It's simple in the p4p business, you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]You made a valid statement. That would be good business for her and her pussy and pimp. My only point is are they worth it. You can't be average look with average service requesting that much money. Hopefully word will get out and mongers will stop paying those prices. I haven't seen many review on here where someone has paid those prices and was totally satisfied. I'm a AA that makes good money and I can't see myself paying that much money for 1 hoe.

[QUOTE=PayForItAnyway;2549449]. I haven't seen many review on here where someone has paid those prices and was totally satisfied..[/QUOTE]I don't want to break any rules here about promoting competition, but this board represents only a small segment of the overall hobby space (& I'm going to call a spade a spade) at least in Atlanta this board skews towards the lower end (both the women and the mongers that visit them). There is an active hobby / monger scene that exists at the $400 and up price range it just is not discussed here for the most part. Just because you guys aren't playing in that space doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

High Dollar Hotties or HDHs as they were called on a now defunct message board.

I know and have known a number of them in Atlanta and other cities for years.

For the most part they are in the $400/ hour+ range and typically do multi hour appointments. They typically only see 3 or 4 guys a week and rarely see more than one in a single day (& certainly not back to back). They screen heavily and do not accept same day appointments from new clients. They are not sitting around an incall waiting for the phone to ring. They work independently (no pimp). Their clientele is a mix of local regulars and business travelers. The out of towners typically repeat but often it is 3 to 6 months or more between visits.

There is a market out there even in Atlanta of guys that don't mind dropping $500-1000+ for a date. They are looking for someone discreet, reliable, on time, and delivers well in bed. They also want someone that has a head on her shoulders and can carry on a conversation. Sometimes dinner or drinks precedes the bedroom time and even without the dinner/drinks you want a girl that can carry a conversation between "rounds"

Is it worth it? Different strokes for different folks. Frankly for most of us (myself included) it is just not practical financially to monger at this level all the time. But the "product" or experience is different than BP roulette.

What's the "cost" of playing BP roulette if you have a bad date (time wasted) or have safety concerns? For some time starved guys that make bank, much easier to "overpay" to ensure they have a good date.

My point in sharing this is to say this market exists & to highlight some differences between this and the BP girls. I'm not "guessing" about this or how it works.

[QUOTE=Steak404;2549539]High Dollar Hotties or HDHs as they were called on a now defunct message board.

I know and have known a number of them in Atlanta and other cities for years.

For the most part they are in the $400/ hour+ range and typically do multi hour appointments. They typically only see 3 or 4 guys a week and rarely see more than one in a single day (& certainly not back to back). They screen heavily and do not accept same day appointments from new clients. They are not sitting around an incall waiting for the phone to ring. They work independently (no pimp). Their clientele is a mix of local regulars and business travelers. The out of towners typically repeat but often it is 3 to 6 months or more between visits.

There is a market out there even in Atlanta of guys that don't mind dropping $500-1000+ for a date. They are looking for someone discreet, reliable, on time, and delivers well in bed. They also want someone that has a head on her shoulders and can carry on a conversation. Sometimes dinner or drinks precedes the bedroom time and even without the dinner/drinks you want a girl that can carry a conversation between "rounds"

Is it worth it? Different strokes for
different folks. Frankly for most of us (myself included) it is just not practical financially to monger at this level all the time. But the "product" or experience is different than BP roulette.

What's the "cost" of playing BP roulette if you have a bad date (time wasted) or have safety concerns? For some time starved guys that make bank, much easier to "overpay" to ensure they have a good date.

My point in sharing this is to say this market exists & to highlight some differences between this and the BP girls. I'm not "guessing" about this or how it works.[/QUOTE]You make good points can't debate them. Look at warren Sapp, I'm sure he didn't pay 60,80 or even 400 for the hoes he bought. He paid much more because he had it. Unfortunately for him, he fucked it up.

[QUOTE=PayForItAnyway;2549554]You make good points can't debate them. Look at warren Sapp, I'm sure he didn't pay 60,80 or even 400 for the hoes he bought. He paid much more because he had it. Unfortunately for him, he fucked it up.[/QUOTE]I have spoke on this topic recently and I will again. HDH's are for those who can and want to play in that realm. It's simply not a league for everyone. Furthermore, YMMV has several meanings. One of which is what you like may not be what someone else likes. For me and my preferences, I like curvy chicks over spinners, prefer brunettes over blondes, vanilla over chocolate, implants over sag, tits over ass, and so on. There are guys who think women I like are 6's and 7's while I see some of those they have seen and feel they look the same or worse. Such decisions are the epitome of YMMV.

This aspect of the hobby is no different than any other business aspect in life. Whether it be food, real estate, or p2 p, whatever the good or service is, it's price is determined by two players. First the servicer, then the client who either is or isn't willing to pay the price for it. Everyone is different, especially when that is depending on your cash flow. At the end of the day, what matters is what you want and what you are willing to pay for it if you have it. Nothing more or less.

After seeing some of the comments today. Calling escorts "hoes", etc. Aren't you concerned that maybe one of your regulars / ATFs will read your comments and take offense to being referred to as a "hoe"?

[QUOTE=PayForItAnyway;2549417]Patriot range Is feeling some type of way.

This morning. LOL.

From the famous words of willy the from ghetto boys. Hoe. Yo pussy is no more important than my dick *****.[/QUOTE]Yea, I was feeling some kind of way. I'm a principle kind of guy. Don't offer a service you don't plan on delivering. If I pay my damn cash, give me what you advertised!!

Pictures and all! Also don't list prices that you aren't satisfied with. You know how many providers have told me "oh its only 80 what did you expect?

Beyatch I expected what was advertised. If its 60 for 30 min then don't start rushing me after 5 minutes.

Plus paying more doesn't mean you're paying for top shelf poon tang or good service. Any provider can decide they want to charge 400 at any time.

Warren Sapp paid over 400 and still didn't get good service. I'm not going to lie, if I give 400 and you do some bullshizz, then I'm not leaving without my 400.

Hell or high water, that is how I know this game is not for me. We shouldn't. Have to take shit from them, especially when we've done our part by paying upfront with the correct donation.

That is why they like older guys. Because they are waaaay easier to get out. Theyll just pay and eat a shit sandwhich without saying or doing anything. Maybe because they are old, they are less aggressive and have more to lose than less established gents.

Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=ParrotRange;2549712]Yea, I was feeling some kind of way. I'm a principle kind of guy. Don't offer a service you don't plan on delivering. If I pay my damn cash, give me what you advertised!!

Pictures and all! Also don't list prices that you aren't satisfied with. You know how many providers have told me "oh its only 80 what did you expect?

Beyatch I expected what was advertised. If its 60 for 30 min then don't start rushing me after 5 minutes.

Plus paying more doesn't mean you're paying for top shelf poon tang or good service. Any provider can decide they want to charge 400 at any time.

Warren Sapp paid over 400 and still didn't get good service. I'm not going to lie, if I give 400 and you do some bullshizz, then I'm not leaving without my 400.

Hell or high water, that is how I know this game is not for me. We shouldn't. Have to take shit from them, especially when we've done our part by paying upfront with the correct donation.

That is why they like older guys. Because they are waaaay easier to get out. Theyll just pay and eat a shit sandwhich without saying or doing anything. Maybe because they are old, they are less aggressive and have more to lose than less established gents.

Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]You know I once paid some skank, Envy Star, $200/ hour when I first started doing this. Chic was in an empty apartment on Panola Road with a small ass mattress damn near on the floor. Chic told me that $200 was not enough money for her to do anything. I was like, Bish, then advertise the price you wish to provide services for. Who besides me is giving a chic on Panola Road 200 bones? I even saw her increase her rates to $350 on her websites. I'm like bish please. She doesn't offer multiples in the hour (1 pop only), everything is covered, no GFE, no kissing, no anal. All for $350/ hour. Is that worth any damn $350? She even got some reviews after I reviewed her by some corny ass dudes saying the service was great and she was professional. Some dudes will take any ole garbage. That's why chics charge those outrageous prices. A sucka is born every day. Some fool will pay it.

I'm glad you saw the light after paying that $200 but to be honest I wish more guys would see the light as soon as they enter the house of service.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;2549733]You know I once paid some skank, Envy Star, $200/ hour when I first started doing this. Chic was in an empty apartment on Panola Road with a small ass mattress damn near on the floor. Chic told me that $200 was not enough money for her to do anything. I was like, Bish, then advertise the price you wish to provide services for. Who besides me is giving a chic on Panola Road 200 bones? I even saw her increase her rates to $350 on her websites. I'm like bish please. She doesn't offer multiples in the hour (1 pop only), everything is covered, no GFE, no kissing, no anal. All for $350/ hour. Is that worth any damn $350? She even got some reviews after I reviewed her by some corny ass dudes saying the service was great and she was professional. Some dudes will take any ole garbage. That's why chics charge those outrageous prices. A sucka is born every day. Some fool will pay it.[/QUOTE]

I'm going to be honest, I almost paid $200 an hrtried a massage and that was only because the unattractive women was talking $150 and they didn't even have a license nor oil to do the job they was trying to do it with some baby oil, Palmers coca butter and Vaseline lotion depending on which stuff they had to choose the price would've changed. And on top of that they wanted a tip, it was clearly obvious plenty of suckers was paying those prices and one small note to mention man some of those chicks pics was fake! Looked far worse in real life, however, I met this one chick on BP advertising I forgot her name but she did provide me with her government name. I could tell she was clearly crazy on her ad it said no black men please I called her up and she set up the appointment with me in less than 5 mins. She worked out of a license massage shop in midtown during the day and evening times it's BP. She called me back and had me reschedule it for her crib which was in lithonia and she reassured me she was legit when we met up she was smiling too hard and she began to flirt with each other and pretty soon it turned into a covered 30 min session for $100 but she would've threw in the massage for $200 . Man that chick was slim name coffee brown completion with a cute face and a nice sleek sexy ass on her. She knew how to phuck to, she could ride good and grind it from the back real well. Too make a long story short I will never pay for a $200 massage but I will pay a $100 that chick was worth it. And it wasn't my 1 $t time doing something this crazy because I really into this 1 suburban black chick giving massages off windy hill rd her friend a white chick who was gorgeous told me about their spot when I came into the room the white chick ended up kicking me too the curve for an older white guy who was spending $250. But the black chick was only doing massages and I had to convince her for 30 mins to sell me some cut which she finally gave in and I spent $120 on that and that was the first time in my life I ever paid that type of money for sex And when I did had no regrets. I got the surburban black chick pics still in my phone which I'll upload later but she was a good phuck and that was her 1st time doing it with ablack guy and it was her last because we kept fooling around until for 6 months and she started claiming that I was trying to get her knocked up And mess up her future at this popular university. I think it really was that when she hit my line I was on FIB hanging out and that was a big mistake to tell a classy woman. And yes there are some women who sell you know what that do have class.

[QUOTE=ParrotRange;2549712]Yea, I was feeling some kind of way. I'm a principle kind of guy. Don't offer a service you don't plan on delivering. If I pay my damn cash, give me what you advertised!!

Pictures and all! Also don't list prices that you aren't satisfied with. You know how many providers have told me "oh its only 80 what did you expect?

Beyatch I expected what was advertised. If its 60 for 30 min then don't start rushing me after 5 minutes.

Plus paying more doesn't mean you're paying for top shelf poon tang or good service. Any provider can decide they want to charge 400 at any time.

Warren Sapp paid over 400 and still didn't get good service. I'm not going to lie, if I give 400 and you do some bullshizz, then I'm not leaving without my 400.

Hell or high water, that is how I know this game is not for me. We shouldn't. Have to take shit from them, especially when we've done our part by paying upfront with the correct donation.

That is why they like older guys. Because they are waaaay easier to get out. Theyll just pay and eat a shit sandwhich without saying or doing anything. Maybe because they are old, they are less aggressive and have more to lose than less established gents.

Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ParrotRange;2549712]Yea, I was feeling some kind of way. I'm a principle kind of guy. Don't offer a service you don't plan on delivering. If I pay my damn cash, give me what you advertised!!

Pictures and all! Also don't list prices that you aren't satisfied with. You know how many providers have told me "oh its only 80 what did you expect?

Beyatch I expected what was advertised. If its 60 for 30 min then don't start rushing me after 5 minutes.

Plus paying more doesn't mean you're paying for top shelf poon tang or good service. Any provider can decide they want to charge 400 at any time.

Warren Sapp paid over 400 and still didn't get good service. I'm not going to lie, if I give 400 and you do some bullshizz, then I'm not leaving without my 400.

Hell or high water, that is how I know this game is not for me. We shouldn't. Have to take shit from them, especially when we've done our part by paying upfront with the correct donation.

That is why they like older guys. Because they are waaaay easier to get out. Theyll just pay and eat a shit sandwhich without saying or doing anything. Maybe because they are old, they are less aggressive and have more to lose than less established gents.

Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Enjoyed your post about the women and they're business practices. I agree with most of what your saying, but you need to remember that most of these women are not normal, rational people, most are not very smart either, many are desperate and on drugs. I've been mongering for 30+years and have gotten bad service about 30 percent of the time, no matter how much I paid. It's part of the challenge of the game.

As far as being and old guy, your right, most of us would rather take a loss than risk making a scene. I scuffled with a black SW back in the 80's and got stabbed in the back and received stitches over trying to get my money back. I really only been completely ripped off maybe 10 times over the years. Just my 2 cents. Happy mongering.

Did you women that sell ass have class. I call bull ish. What rational staight forward thinking woman would abase herself to selling ass? If you believe these broads have class then why haven't you married one and turned her into a house wife? Old saying you can't turn a hoe into a house wife. It holds true women who sell ass have a psychological issue in the unconscious mind. Listen to dr umar johnson explain hoes in his relationship lecture. But be honest if you met a female and you starting dating. Then you got to the point where yall are very into each other and she says well I do escort sometimes to make extra money what would you do. I just don't see how you can believe that they are classy. I pose a question and real life study. While you guys are out count 15 dudes you see that look over 25 no matter the race age creed or physical appearance. Then think if they had 100 and gave it to your wife girlfriend for sex would you still love her stay stay with her. Me I would be out like a light. I just can't take a prostitute serious as being classy or even having a serious healthy personal relationship with a guy until she has had years of help physical and mental.

[QUOTE=ZeusDawg;2542282]Man it's rough on a brother trying to get with some of these good looking white girls LOL. Most of the ones that look worth your time have the no AA disclaimers. The ones that don't discriminate look like crackheads.[/QUOTE]Wow funny I came across this post I've been dealing with ALOT of this myself lately and it's definitely been ROUGH. Not only do we have to deal with the knucklehead brothers that mess it up for the rest of us, we also have to deal with a few fellow mongers from the other side that pretend to be cool but are doing a lot of hating behind the scenes. The SHADE is real.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;2542420]Ok, so what's the big deal when you have some AA providers saying the same or saying they only see black males over 30-40yrs old permitted. Not trying to start a major discussion on race issues, but it is what is.[/QUOTE]Only seeing black males over 30/40 doesn't bother me I think maturity and finances have alot to do with that decision no matter the race.

Why would you want to see any chick that had no AA? I mean dam speaking as a Afro American I already get bs from society and the females in it. Why would I want to get it from a p2 p chick. Isn't it enough that America thinks I'm not good enough for america. Why would I try to get with a provider who already says no aa on her page. She is already telling you if your black I'm not going to see you if I do it will be shitty or a rip off. If it isn't you are still stupid to spend your money with her. But I guess that's your white dream LOL. [URL]http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/apple/video.php?v=wshh1fuOn5Emm8VIsjfH[/URL] this is what they think of you when they put no aa.

[QUOTE=TheLoad2;2550175]Wow funny I came across this post I've been dealing with ALOT of this myself lately and it's definitely been ROUGH. Not only do we have to deal with the knucklehead brothers that mess it up for the rest of us, we also have to deal with a few fellow mongers from the other side that pretend to be cool but are doing a lot of hating behind the scenes. The SHADE is real.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Buckwild25;2550172]Did you women that sell ass have class. I call bull ish. What rational staight forward thinking woman would abase herself to selling ass? If you believe these broads have class then why haven't you married one and turned her into a house wife? Old saying you can't turn a hoe into a house wife. It holds true women who sell ass have a psychological issue in the unconscious mind. Listen to dr umar johnson explain hoes in his relationship lecture. But be honest if you met a female and you starting dating. Then you got to the point where yall are very into each other and she says well I do escort sometimes to make extra money what would you do. I just don't see how you can believe that they are classy. I pose a question and real life study. While you guys are out count 15 dudes you see that look over 25 no matter the race age creed or physical appearance. Then think if they had 100 and gave it to your wife girlfriend for sex would you still love her stay stay with her. Me I would be out like a light. I just can't take a prostitute serious as being classy or even having a serious healthy personal relationship with a guy until she has had years of help physical and mental.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this response; since its I this thread I will reply as in few words as I can. Selling as and self-respect (dignity) aren't mutually elusive. Being that just because you sale sex doesn't mean you hate yourself, have mental issues, etc of the negative shit associated with the selling of sex. Let me give you something to think about if selling your body=a lack of self-respect, then being a black male=drama. Not all women who sell their body have mental issues and not all black males means drama. I mean what does that say for a group of men who buy sex? I dislike people e who generalize us because we choose to pay for sex, so maybe you should not generalize the women in the hobby you choose to participate.

Also I'm in total agreement with you about the women who don't see AA men. My question to the ones who say AA men, what about black born Europe's, Africans, Afro Latin men? Black they are but the aren't African American. I dislike reading commits on here of brothers upset because a white girl won't see them. Move on, there are white women out there that will see you just go to them. I prefer black escorts but to each his own.