[QUOTE=WebbHoes;3447630]That usually works.
Most are down for BBFS.[/QUOTE]Do you usually include your phone number in the first message? I haven't upgraded yet on SA.
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[QUOTE=WebbHoes;3447630]That usually works.
Most are down for BBFS.[/QUOTE]Do you usually include your phone number in the first message? I haven't upgraded yet on SA.
[QUOTE=MrYoda;3448529]Do you usually include your phone number in the first message? I haven't upgraded yet on SA.[/QUOTE]Be forewarned, if you have not upgraded, your messages are edited and reviewed. Hell they might be if you are a paid member. I thought I found a loophole prior to paying for premium, and send contact info in a few messages to a few ladies, the actual message I sent was changed to a very generic "I'm interested in an arrangement, lets talk" sort of message.
[QUOTE=MrYoda;3448529]Do you usually include your phone number in the first message? I haven't upgraded yet on SA.[/QUOTE]I never do. If a baby responds back to me with interest and we start a positive dialog I'll give her my Google number at some point. Only after I've seen a baby a few times and I tell that she is on the up and up will I give her my cell number. There are some really sketch girls on SA.
[QUOTE=MrYoda;3444196]After reading about your success on SA this makes me want to join. Perhaps, what is the key to being direct in your messages? List your offer and what you want or list it in the following messages?[/QUOTE]You need to be careful. Note that offering $ for sex is strictly against the ToS for the site. I know people who have gotten their accounts suspended for putting this in a message. You need to do any serious negotiating off the site. Further, if a girl really is an escort, not a SB, I'd recommend reporting to SA any direct pay for play offers she makes for you. There is some migration of Backpage girls to SA in some areas. These will ultimately create problems for all of us and create an environment where SA is targeted by LE in the same way CL and BP were. Keep sugar safe for sugar daddies, please.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3449584]You need to be careful. Note that offering $ for sex is strictly against the ToS for the site. I know people who have gotten their accounts suspended for putting this in a message. You need to do any serious negotiating off the site. Further, if a girl really is an escort, not a SB, I'd recommend reporting to SA any direct pay for play offers she makes for you. There is some migration of Backpage girls to SA in some areas. These will ultimately create problems for all of us and create an environment where SA is targeted by LE in the same way CL and BP were. Keep sugar safe for sugar daddies, please.[/QUOTE]I think it comes down to wording. My standard line is: "I'm looking for a non-exclusive, no strings attached, friends w / benefit sort of relationship, with a pay-per-date sort of arrangement. My budget is $X to $why per date. Ideally you'd be able to host. I'd rather the money go towards you than a hotel room. ".
No issues so far with my account. Then again, us Sugar Daddies are the ones paying for the whole thing, I'm sure they are probably a little more lenient on us.
I migrated to Seekimg arrangement about 1 year ago because the women are open to BBFS and much more affordable.
In no particular order, here are my names. I never paid more than $400. Most would get the room.
Most were ok to really good. Some have disappeared, but I assume that is the norm. I have had better luck with women 30 and up. They all seem to be working moms that need extra cash.
Love2 runtravel.
Jennnn.
Slbsj.
Workoutbrat22.
Sarcasticfungirl.
YourSecret.
EM1919.
Sugarlizz.
PaduaDutchess.
Caramelkiss86.
[QUOTE=BarebackOnly1;3454058]I migrated to Seekimg arrangement about 1 year ago because the women are open to BBFS and much more affordable.
In no particular order, here are my names. I never paid more than $400. Most would get the room.
Most were ok to really good. Some have disappeared, but I assume that is the norm. I have had better luck with women 30 and up. They all seem to be working moms that need extra cash.
Love2 runtravel.
Jennnn.
Slbsj.
Workoutbrat22.
Sarcasticfungirl.
YourSecret.
EM1919.
Sugarlizz.
PaduaDutchess.
Caramelkiss86.[/QUOTE]Nice list! I will look them up now.
Julialove710.
Reaches out to you if you like her profile, moves the conversation to kik. Won't give out her phone number. Agrees to pretty much anything, but she can't leave her neighborhood, without at least 50 bucks sent to her via paypal for "gas". I offered to send an uber instead. No go. Seemed like a total scam, who knows if she would ever show up?
[QUOTE=BarebackOnly1;3454058]I migrated to Seekimg arrangement about 1 year ago because the women are open to BBFS and much more affordable.
In no particular order, here are my names. I never paid more than $400. Most would get the room.
Most were ok to really good. Some have disappeared, but I assume that is the norm. I have had better luck with women 30 and up. They all seem to be working moms that need extra cash.
Love2 runtravel.
Jennnn.
Slbsj.
Workoutbrat22.
Sarcasticfungirl.
YourSecret.
EM1919.
Sugarlizz.
PaduaDutchess.
Caramelkiss86.[/QUOTE]I went to signup for Seeking Arrangement and got redirected to a site called [URL]SugarDaddyMeet.com[/URL].
Is this the same website?
[QUOTE=PdxVet55;3489721]I went to signup for Seeking Arrangement and got redirected to a site called [URL]SugarDaddyMeet.com[/URL].
Is this the same website?[/QUOTE]No. You typed it in wrong. Try [URL]http://seekingarrangement.com[/URL].
A lot of competitors register domains with common typos to steal traffic.
[BLUE]It never fails to amaze me what kind of stupid shit you guys will fight about.
A2[/BLUE]
[QUOTE=Admin2;3492401][BLUE]It never fails to amaze me what kind of stupid shit you guys will fight about.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Damn, I missed it. I would love to see what kind of stupid shit we fight about.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;3493402]Damn, I missed it. I would love to see what kind of stupid shit we fight about.[/QUOTE]Wasn't even fighting. Just more of 'really? That is your hangup?
So I have been kind of successful on SA, some girls have a place to host some of them don't. Last Monday a date went wrong because we could not find a place to be (Hotels in Aurora were fully booked) after almost 45 min of driving and asking everywhere I admitted defeat.
Any place you recommend to go with the ladies that can not host? I have something Friday but the hotel thing is being a pain in the ass again. Some of them recommended Air BnB but I do not feel comfortable with that level of exposure. Any recommendations will be appreciated and I can share user names after that.
[QUOTE=CpFabulous;3502783]So I have been kind of successful on SA, some girls have a place to host some of them don't. Last Monday a date went wrong because we could not find a place to be (Hotels in Aurora were fully booked) after almost 45 min of driving and asking everywhere I admitted defeat.
Any place you recommend to go with the ladies that can not host? I have something Friday but the hotel thing is being a pain in the ass again. Some of them recommended Air BnB but I do not feel comfortable with that level of exposure. Any recommendations will be appreciated and I can share user names after that.[/QUOTE]I have the [URL]hotel.com[/URL] app on my iphone which finds available rooms pretty quickly. I use a cc that my wife doesn't have access to.
On my last date I suggested tubs in Federal Way and she happily went with it.
[QUOTE=Madmaxon;3502977]I have the [URL]hotel.com[/URL] app on my iphone which finds available rooms pretty quickly. I use a cc that my wife doesn't have access to.
On my last date I suggested tubs in Federal Way and she happily went with it.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will try it and see if it works. My main concern is that I usually am free in the mornings and at lunch and most places have a 3. 00 pm check in time. Someone suggested Air BNB but I think it is way to risky.
SA seems like a sure bet. But, they're just a different kind of pro.
How about other, non-SA non-pros?
Not a BB report but on the topic of SA -- don't fall for Cameron (28, blonde, from Vegas / Seattle). Typical stripper routine with upsell after allowance, I was an idiot.
[QUOTE=BarebackOnly1;3454058]I migrated to Seekimg arrangement about 1 year ago because the women are open to BBFS and much more affordable.
In no particular order, here are my names. I never paid more than $400. Most would get the room.
Most were ok to really good. Some have disappeared, but I assume that is the norm. I have had better luck with women 30 and up. They all seem to be working moms that need extra cash.
Love2 runtravel.
Jennnn.
Slbsj.
Workoutbrat22.
Sarcasticfungirl.
YourSecret.
EM1919.
Sugarlizz.
PaduaDutchess.
Caramelkiss86.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlSinger;3507541]Not a BB report but on the topic of SA -- don't fall for Cameron (28, blonde, from Vegas / Seattle). Typical stripper routine with upsell after allowance, I was an idiot.[/QUOTE]She's cute. She was on TNA until about a month or so ago, then she retired. Probably because she is pregnant. She still dance at Ricks?
Hmm no she was completely fit and fine. She said she was visiting Seattle for the week but she lives in Vegas. You sure same person? LOL.
[QUOTE=RandyDarwin;3507967]She's cute. She was on TNA until about a month or so ago, then she retired. Probably because she is pregnant. She still dance at Ricks?[/QUOTE]
Well I'm the first to admin when I'm wrong, but she looks a lot like Cameron Skye of TNA fame.
[QUOTE=SlSinger;3507987]Hmm no she was completely fit and fine. She said she was visiting Seattle for the week but she lives in Vegas. You sure same person? LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RandyDarwin;3508552]Well I'm the first to admin when I'm wrong, but she looks a lot like Cameron Skye of TNA fame.[/QUOTE]Well, I was wrong. I ran across this girl's facebook page checking out someone else, and she is definitely a different girl.
What was so bad about your encounter?
[QUOTE=RandyDarwin;3512456]Well, I was wrong. I ran across this girl's facebook page checking out someone else, and she is definitely a different girl.
What was so bad about your encounter?[/QUOTE]Typical stripper routine -- on SA when you agree on an allowance of a certain threshold usually it is implicit that everything is on the menu. She asked for money upfront and I thought with the wrong head and gave it and then after that would not allow anything except a HJ partially clothed, claiming if I wanted more then more $ would be needed and should have been discussed. (for a HJ BTW) I told her to get out since I didn't want to deal with the bs. Not your typical SA encounter.
Cherrykiss18 formerly known as Cherrykiss21. You can search google image for Cherrykiss21 to see what she looks like. She messaged me on SA from Tacoma. I offered 200 for BBFS, she countered with 250. We met at tubs in Fed Way. She's cute and she delivered as promised. But she never mentioned that she doesn't give head so that was a downer. She was also kind of limited as far as how hard she could take it. I don't think she'd be very enjoyable for really hung guys to be honest. But she is cute and took a good creampie so not too bad.
[QUOTE=Coolboarder78;3446070]Thanks for the review. I've been going back and forth with her over the last week or so, her private pix seem hot and I was planning on jumping on that this weekend. Think I'll pass.[/QUOTE]She has issues. LOL.
I did fuck her in the ass recently rawdog for 200 $.
[QUOTE=CpFabulous;3502783]So I have been kind of successful on SA...[/QUOTE]What is SA?
[QUOTE=TheNovelist;3539430]What is SA?[/QUOTE][URL]SeekingArrangement.com[/URL] is a website for Sugar Daddies to meet up with Sugar Babies. You have to be a member but you should give it a try. It’s a gold mine for pussy, especially college babes and MILFs!
Safe mongering and sugaring!
Much thanks to the guys who have shared info. I've been a premium for all of about a week and have went to pound town with 4 ladies from Portland to Seattle. Never payed more than $300. Willing to trade through Pm.
[QUOTE=FloridaRed;3545230]Much thanks to the guys who have shared info. I've been a premium for all of about a week and have went to pound town with 4 ladies from Portland to Seattle. Never payed more than $300. Willing to trade through Pm.[/QUOTE]So you've benefited from all the public info but you want to trade your info for more. Nice.
[QUOTE=Madmaxon;3545937]So you've benefited from all the public info but you want to trade your info for more. Nice.[/QUOTE]I used the techniques described to find ladies who were not on any lists here. And I'm not the type to put out info on regular chicks. Sooooo go kick rocks.
Any attached guys out there have advice for staying discrete when getting a hotel for ladies who can't host (most of them). Are you comfortable with having a hotel charge go on your credit card? What about if ladies want to stay in the hotel room after you have to go and possible extra charges (damage, food, tv, etc) going on your card. Any advice on this would be helpful. Thank you.
A few things I've learned slaying poon on SA.
1. Big cities, big allowance. Once I searched smaller cities the allowance amount fell drastically.
2. Being able to hold a conversation and looking somewhat handsome can take you a long way. If you can't talk to women then I hope you have a lot of money. I've been able to bring down allowance rates drastically just by talking with some substance and being at least in shape and decently good looking. Don't be a weird awkward burden.
3. Play the field. I have a script that I can flex to the left or right and it usually works pretty damn well. I select 5 and work them. Usually end up with at least 3. Sometimes more like last weekend I went to pound town with 4 ladies from SA. My pleasure sword was seriously exhausted. I totally didn't mean to set up so many visits, but they all just fell into place.
4. Don't be a dick. If a lady says no, stop all contact. All the attention goes towards the younger girls on SA. If a lady isn't a perfect 10 she will be back after no one picks her up.
5. The 30+ crowd is where its at. You guys can have the 18-29 crowd. No amount of beauty replaces a lady who is experienced in the sack. I met a 55 yr old smoke show off of SA and it was hands down the best bang time I've ever had. Anal, deepthroat, DATO on me with getting a slippery lubed up handy. She even had a freaking milking station at her house. No shit.
SA is like a candy store.
[QUOTE=SeattleMan34;3549021]Any attached guys out there have advice for staying discrete when getting a hotel for ladies who can't host (most of them). Are you comfortable with having a hotel charge go on your credit card? What about if ladies want to stay in the hotel room after you have to go and possible extra charges (damage, food, tv, etc) going on your card. Any advice on this would be helpful. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Probably best to get a card that she doesn't know about or get a separate bank account you can put money into without her knowing.
I been bbing this cute young blonde and when talking to her about a gb. I assume some of you would be interested.
[QUOTE=SeattleMan34;3549021]Any attached guys out there have advice for staying discrete when getting a hotel for ladies who can't host (most of them). Are you comfortable with having a hotel charge go on your credit card? What about if ladies want to stay in the hotel room after you have to go and possible extra charges (damage, food, tv, etc) going on your card. Any advice on this would be helpful. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Cash and a burner phone are IMO the only way to go. You could use a prepaid card but why bother since you would want to pay cash for that anyway. Any card or non cash transaction will leave a paper trail which you don't want.
If you need a room I suggest that unless you need the room to stay in before or after have the girl get the room and you can pay her cash for it. Once again registering for the room leaves a paper trail. I never would want any record of calls or hotel rooms or anything else.
Stay safe.
peachypiesncream
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/29c22dec-e33c-4344-b1c7-1153b25cafcc[/URL]
Can host in Marysville.
Normally I don't post contact information for SA girls unless they are also providers, but this one spams my phone every day asking to meet. And given how desperate she seems, I've never partake. If someone bangs her, please report back. Feel free to PM me for her phone number. Thanks!
[QUOTE=JettaGuy;3550398]I been bbing this cute young blonde and when talking to her about a gb. I assume some of you would be interested.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming a generous amount of us are interested.
Thanks for all the sharing about SA. I have been on there for a couple of months and decided to share my observations.
1. I enjoy SA much more than TNA. Maybe it is the thrill of the hunt. I am swinging for the high hanging fruit.
2. Definitely I have found myself gravitating to the over 30. I am looking for the GFE and like when women know and enjoy the act.
3. Have a good profile and include a photo to draw them in, and include some private photos to swap for their private photos.
4. Unlike some posts I do not immediately go in for the "kill". I usually find something in their profile to ask about, or ask how their weekend was or like today ask if they are enjoying the change in weather. I chit chat for a few messages. Then I slowly steer the conversation by asking if they have met anyone from the site. Surprisingly many have not. Then I ask what type of arrangement they are seeking. From there I will ask them what they are comfortable with. At this point I know exactly what to expect from an upcoming date.
5. Typically I get some sort of response that they don't want to feel like a hooker or prostitute. I always reassure them they are not.
6. I usually use a carrot that I am trying to find a single lady to build a "relationship" with. I am in it for the long term.
7. Have a "sob" story about why you are on the site. Too busy raising my kid, work, and training to pursue traditional relationship. That way they are not looking down on you as some schmuck that can't date.
7 a. I spent the first month honing my responses to general question like: my introduction text, what are you seeking, and have you done this before. I steer the conversations towards questions I have prepared responses for.
8. I usually meet them in a public place of their choosing, then suggest we get a room if I am attracted to them. I never pay if nothing transpires.
9. Move on to the next one.
10. Again I seeking the non pros, and it amazing the stories they tell me about how they approached and turned off by guys treating the like hookers.
11. Every women over 30 I have contacted is definitely dtf, and most of the others are to.
12. Bareback is not my thing. However, almost all would have no problem with it. Even if they say must use a condom, they typically don't require it, or on the second "date" tell me I don't have to.
Again these are just my observations. Thanks to all who have given this community some much information.
These are just my observation.
[QUOTE=OneSizeFitsFew;3551139]Cash and a burner phone are IMO the only way to go. You could use a prepaid card but why bother since you would want to pay cash for that anyway. Any card or non cash transaction will leave a paper trail which you don't want.
If you need a room I suggest that unless you need the room to stay in before or after have the girl get the room and you can pay her cash for it. Once again registering for the room leaves a paper trail. I never would want any record of calls or hotel rooms or anything else.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I usually have a room as I monger while out of town on business so I may not be up to speed, but I think most hotels insist on a card for "incidentals", especially if there is a mini bar. Prepaid cards are easy to use, make sure you get an actual prepaid card and not a refillable card which leaves a paper trail. The only drawback to prepaid is getting rid of the small balance left after you run the card down. The banks make millions off of those small pocket change balances left on cards which are tossed.
[QUOTE=Coolboarder78;3446108]Breanna206- 300 hung out about 2.5 hours, BBFS multi shots. Heaver that her pictures but total willingness to please. Said she was open to greek in our next meeting. Confirmed on BC, and was very clean, great kisser.
Unefilleenrose- 300 spent about 2 hours together, BBFS multi shots, bbgreek (even came with a plug in, which was fun to find). Again, bigger than her pictures show, but dirty has hell and very into it. VERY Slight smoke breath.
SylviaGold553- 300 for 2 hours, multi shots, no greek, Covered FS.
Sweetjudy. Haven't actually seen, older 42-45, clear conversation she is open to BBFS (can no longer have kids she said) and bbgreek, haven't discussed $ but seems open to a pretty low number. 1-2 per visit.
Sugarblond (or something like that), sorry I deleted the messages between us. Started with $600 for as long as I'd like, quickly came down to $400 for BBFS, probably would come down more, no greek. Haven't actually seen, went with unefilleenrose instead that night.
Others I've messaged with who are totally fine with "per visit" dates.
Nikki Duval.
Sugar QT.
MsKayla1998 (asks 3 per visit but seemed like she would jump at anything).
GreenEyedGabby.
Sugarbballie.
Sweetemily92.
Peachypiesncream.
Robo-kitty (asks 3-5 per).
Lillypad2015 (wants 500 per).
PennyLaneLove (asks 3-5 per).
Brittany206 (asks 200 half - 300 hour).
I'm finding that the women on SA are thicker than their pictures, great if you don't mind some chub. Are VERY open and are cool with staying, hanging, multi shots, etc. Seem more genuine than TNA girls. I need to work on my negotiation skills but where else can you get 2+ hours of BBFS for 3 bills.
For those looking to jump in, use works like "visit" instead of "date" or "Get together", for donation use "allowance", and if you are looking for a one time, use "per visit" that way they are not looking for a weekly or monthly "allowance". Be upfront, tell them you are a busy business man who travels a lot or a single dad, tell them you are just looking for some physical intimacy because you don't have time for traditional relationships. They eat the "single dad" shit up and it's easy to put them off when they message you looking for a visit to say "sorry I have my kids" or "my kid has baseball or whatever" .[/QUOTE]Links to profile would be cool if possible.