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Norman,
This was truly a very cool report, thank you! You are absolutely on the mark concerning the relationship between service/attitude/looks and price, but the kids don't know yet!
I will be in LV this coming weekend with a friend of mine, riding our MC's to town.
Maybe we see you on Fleamont and you can provide advice on where to connect with the $20 BBBJCIM ladies. I always want to learn!
See ya!
Not the kind of thing folks will look forward to hearing about, but there are definitely things that bug me more than too much law enforcement. Such as not enough, when predatory slave-dealing creeps don't stay locked in their cages where they belong:
[Size=5]BODIES FOUND IN DESERT: Three charged in two deaths[/size]
[Size=4][B]One man may have been pimping victim[/size][/b]
[I]Henderson police have charged three men in connection with the slayings of two women whose bodies were found May 20 in a desert area of Henderson.
Police charged Domonic Ronaldo Malone, 26; Donald Jay Herb, 29; and Jason D. McCarty, 35, with numerous felony counts, including murder with a deadly weapon, kidnapping and conspiracy to commit murder.
"The detectives have gathered a substantial amount of evidence that has amounted to probable cause for these arrests," said Henderson Police Department spokesman Todd Rasmussen.
Although police wouldn't comment on a motive for the slayings, a source familiar with the case said that at least one of the suspects was prostituting one of the victims and that both victims were killed over "a money issue."
<SNIP>
All three suspects have extensive criminal backgrounds, records show.
In March 2001, Malone was arrested on charges of cocaine possession. He told North Las Vegas police at the time that he was an ex-felon for battery with intent to commit a crime.
Herb was scheduled to serve time in the Clark County Detention Center this weekend for failing to finish a drug treatment program he was assigned to after arrests on drug possession charges in 2004 and 2005.
<SNIP>
McCarty also has a history of drug charges. And in the early 1990s, he was charged with taking a vehicle without consent, being in possession of a stolen vehicle and being in possession of a controlled substance.[/I]
Photos of the worthless scumbag homicidal pimps included in article at:
[url]http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/May-27-Sat-2006/news/7648345.html[/url]
[Size=4][B]Police: Slaying suspect had threatened women
Friend of two victims told of beatings, demands for prostitution money[/size][/b]
[I]A few days before Victoria [Deleted] and Charlotte [Deleted] were found slain in the desert in Henderson, one of the men arrested in connection with their deaths had threatened to kill and bury them in the sand if they didn't make money for him, according to Henderson police reports.
Domonic "D-Roc" Malone, 26, had driven [Name], [Name] and a third woman to the Hard Rock Hotel and dropped them off there, ordering them to prostitute themselves, Henderson police wrote in Malone's arrest report.
"D-Roc then told the girls that if they didn't make him any money, there were going to be three shallow graves in the desert in the morning," according to the police report.
On the morning of May 20, a man found the naked bodies of the two women while he was walking his dog in the Henderson desert south of the Wagonwheel Drive exit off U.S. Highway 95.
<SNIP>
The third woman who had been dropped off at the Hard Rock with the victims told police she had been threatened and beaten multiple times by Malone.
She told police she had gotten into a car with the three suspects and the two victims on May 16 and 17 at the Sahara hotel and casino, police said. She knew the victims and Malone from the Sportsman's Royal Pub, 5600 Boulder Highway at Tropicana Avenue, according to the police report.
She told police Malone began to punch her head during the drive and she blacked out at one point. She said she was driven to a construction site in the desert where Malone beat her some more.
<SNIP>[/I]
[url]http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/May-31-Wed-2006/news/7696993.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Magnod]I've been spending so much time gathering data on mongering for the up-coming trip that I forgot to get some intel on nightclub spots.
I've heard that its hard for two normal guys to get into a lot of Vegas clubs. I've seen them passing out those VIP card things to groups of girls around the Bally / Ceaser areas. Any good place to visit and have a good time without the hassle of fighting to get in?[/QUOTE]
This may be a little late for your post but I'll reply for the record.
Getting into Vegas clubs isn't that hard; as a general rule, $50 goes a long way.
The door people typically ignore those VIP cards the cabbies give you. They also often ignore comps and line passes too.
If you really want to blow it all out, stay up all night, and get some snatch, the best strategy IMHO is to get four guys together and get a booth at Rain. The booth includes a bottle, and if you add it all up, it's probably cheaper than waiting in line, paying cover, buying your own drinks and all that. Women troll through the VIP area and will plop down to visit. That works if you like serendipity. Or, alternatively, once you get settled, send someone out to scout the line. Find four cuties toward the end of the line and invite them in (they get in for free if they're with you!) It's sort of like shopping for Barbies. Gotta love that.
I can usually skip line at Drai's for $20 to the big bald-headed guy at the door. He's very nice if you treat him respectfully. You should probably be hooked up already before you go there, the single women there for the most part are looking for happiness in pill form. Maybe you will find some who already took their medicine, that could be fun (bring gum and a lighter).
IMHO Tao isn't all that, but I know the head bouncer from Ghostbar and he is very nice. $100 will make him your friend, and he will remember you. Personally I don't think Tao is worth it: crowded, hot, loud, obnoxious. But hey, if that works for you, you might like it.
Pure, Body English, and Light are pure misery trying to get in, especially on a Saturday night. If you're single, you will have more fun at Rain. If you insist on going, be prepared to pay, pay, pay.
Check out Empire, an after-hours club. Cabbie should know where it is. Get there early (ie, 2am) and you will breeze right in. Place is packed at 4. Rather odd crowd, but friendly. Easy to hook up here, especially if you aren't picky (although there are some gorgeous women there).
Personally I don't much like the "normal" clubs right now. I like Pure OK but right now, overall the way I like to do Vegas clubs is to hit a lounge early (like Ghostbar) and just hang in there long enough to hit an after-hours club. There are three after-hours places right now that are just wonderful: Drai's in Barbary Coast, Empire, and Seamless. I haven't been to Seamless but supposedly it's the best. I've always loved Drai's, they play gorgeous Ibiza-style house, which puts people in the greatest mood. Empire plays an edgier, very minimalist techno and tech-house. It's fun but weird. Crowd gets cranky after a while. Plan on showing up around 2-3 to get in easy. Most people stay until like 8am or later. Seamless opens a little later, it's a titty bar by day and they have to get that operation closed down first.
There are several lounges that are good for early evening. Ghostbar has always been one of my favorites. Evidently it isn't as cool as it used to be, I can get past the line for $40 now. Chilled out, usually good music, very nice environment to strike up a conversation. Crowd gets better looking as the night goes on, and usually peaks about 1am.
Tabu over at MGM is GREAT. Tables are real expensive, but you'll do fine just hanging out by the bar. Don't hang at the first bar as you come in the door; hang a right, go through the VIP area and hang out in that bar. Mostly house and progressive hip hop.
I've heard good things about Voodoo, and apparently there's a new lounge at Wynn that's worth looking at. The lounge at Tao is great, especially if you can score a seat at the bar. Stunningly beautiful women, very friendly room. Lots of celebs. A good choice if you are very good-looking. Some rich chick will probably buy YOU drinks.
Here's MY ideal Vegas evening. Wake up at 6 or so. Get a shower and a Red Bull. Play some blackjack until about nine or so. Wander over to Little Buddha and have some sushi. When you come out, the Palms will be buzzing with excitement: all the gorgeous people, dressed to the hilt. Lines forming for the clubs. Ease on over to the velvet rope with two twenties in your hand. You'll get in. Ghost will be deserted at this time (in spite of the line!) so you find a seat outside, grab a nice Sapphire and tonic. By and by the tourists will leave, and the locals, celebs and hard core partiers will fill the room. Party until about 2 or 3, talking to all the nice people. Then grab a double espresso and cab it over to Drai's. Listen to the gorgeous music and dance until the sun comes up and the birds go tweet tweet. Oh yeah.
Thanks GatorsDen,
I'm heading up in July for the WSOP. I'll be sure to check out your list if I'm open at nights. Might have to get some rest for the tourney but if I'm out early I can always have some fun the other way.
HIZ HONOR SPEAKS THE TRUTH:
IT'S LEGAL IN NEVADA / or at least it's consciously disregarded
I GLEANED THIS TIDBIT FROM THE RENO GAZETTE JOURNAL:
For all his ethical challenges, Goodman said he recently spoke to a gathering of new mayors at the Kennedy School of Government about ethics: "With all my ethics problems, I lectured all the new mayors on how not to get indicted," he said. Adding: "Ethics and morals are two different things. No one ever accused me of being immoral."
Goodman had some interesting reactions to a story in the Las Vegas Sun about Sheriff Bill Young's decision not to seek re-election. In the article, Young lamented the turn of the strip from solely gambling to a bevy of licentious vices that prove a challenge to law enforcement, namely the proliferation of prostitution, strips clubs and drugs. Ironically, Las Vegas has enjoyed huge economic success by marketing itself as such. Goodman blamed law enforcement for the prostitution problem, likening it to immigration:
"Nobody has clean hands. Law enforcement for years has turned a blind eye to the reality of prostitution taking place in Las Vegas. Instead of having intellectual conversations of how to address it, they just have a conscious disregard for it. It's like immigration. We have laws on the books and there's almost a reliance on the part of those folks that come over here that nothing is going to happen to them."
I thought it quite chivilrous that NO LOCAL JOURNALIST picked up on the Mayor blaming Metro for turning a blind eye on prostitution. I guess they don't dare bite their handler's hand.
ALL BETS ARE OFF ON THE TROPICANNA SWEEP.
Hope this helps, Stormin
What an utter crock of Shiite.
The latest random delerious ravings of Oscar Goodman in public have absolutely no relevance at all to anything which occurs at Metro or anywhere else. He has no personal authority to manage any part of Las Vegas city government, Metro is not even a city governmant agency, and the overwhelming majority of the geography he and we refer to is not in the City at all. He is in his meaningless ceremonial office becuase the predominately illiterate residents of Las Vegas find his alchoholic circus clown act amusing, and because he always does exactly what he is told by anyone in a position to do him some good, including his pals who have repeatedly beat dozens of guys senseless who simply had the misfortune of walking into one of their clip joints, to squeeze a few extra dollars or in some cases just because they felt like it and it's Thursday. Many are dead, others are crippled, at least one is on a feeding tube for the rest of his life, after they encountered Mr. Goodman's pals when going out on the town for a lap dance. Not an opinion, the stomach turning facts are in evidence in Federal court. After becoming very wealthy with his minor cut of the procedes of decades of pimping, torture, rape, and murder, the mayor is now in the advanced stages of alchoholic dementia, and nobody with any real authority or serious influence has any reason to care what noise comes out when his lips move. It is highly ulikely that he can recall what he said 15 minutes ago, and he will likely say something contradicting it 15 minutes from now. A broken clock is right twice a day, a chimpanzee with a piano will occasionally hit a chord, and once and a while a noise which is kinda sorta partly related to something almost true will be heard in between swigs of hizzoner's gin. The only reason he ever gets quoted at all, besides some still thinking his act is cute, is becuase many journalists, especially in the electronic media, as well as residents, have no clue as to the actual structure of local governement or even where the City of Las Vegas really is and isn't located. They majored in journalism and communications at Enormous State University to avoid doing any math or serious reading.
The former Sheriff cashed out for a position at Wynn Resorts, the current Sheriff has announced he is taking his golden parachute at Station Casinos, the next incoming Sheriff will be taken care of in similar fashion, Metro responds exclusively to the wishes of casino and union bosses, and Oscar Goodman is rather less important than a valet parking lot attendant to all of them, and is likely to have quite a bit less cogent understanding of anything occuring in southern Nevada than the aforementioned parking attendant.
It would be perfectly appropriate to pay less attention to him than any other low life violent psycho pimp.
But all that aside, it is always good to hear from YOU, Norman.
Rant over, have a nice day. And welcome to Las Vegas, Ronster from the Big Easy.
[QUOTE=Norman Stormin]Isn't Fremont the same dude who single handedly annexed Kalifornia from Mexico? Wonder if he could pull the same stunt if he walked into the Silver Saddle?[/QUOTE][I]In late 1846 Frémont...led a military expedition of 300 men to capture Santa Barbara, California during the Mexican-American War...and captured the Presidio, and the town, from behind...General Pico, recognizing that the war was lost, later surrendered to him rather than incur casualties. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Fremont[/url] [/I]
I think that's about the right size force to take the Silver Saddle, but he might need some heavier weapons and artillery support.
[url]http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=5087247[/url]
"CAPITOL HILL -
Imagine a pimp needing an accountant. It could happen, because a leading lawmaker thinks the I-R-S ought to go after them.
In fact, Senate Finance Committee Chairman Charles Grassley says he'd like the tax man go after all sex traffickers with the same vim and vigor they use on drug traffickers.
The Iowa Republican thinks the I-R-S can target pimps for not filing employment forms and not withholding taxes from the prostitutes they control. He'd also like to change the rules so those women can become whistleblowers.
Under Grassley's plan, certain tax crimes would become felonies if the money is made off other criminal activity. What now carries a year in jail and a 25-thousand-dollar fine would become ten years and 50-grand."
Any good adult book stores in town. Any chance of meeting women at one of these?
There are several adult book/video/theatre stores in town. The Adult Superstores are probably the most well known. Your chances of meeting women are very slim, gay men however is a different story. I used to rent vids from the one on West Trop and occasionally stop into the coin-op video booths. I stopped going in there after the time I got out of my chair to see a young black fag feeling his dick and stairing at me.
[QUOTE=Bobb Wheele]Any good adult book stores in town. Any chance of meeting women at one of these?[/QUOTE]There's one on Boulder Highway south of Russell near Sam boyd stadium.
Be safe out there.
[QUOTE=maggs64]There are several adult book/video/theatre stores in town. The Adult Superstores are probably the most well known. Your chances of meeting women are very slim, gay men however is a different story. I used to rent vids from the one on West Trop and occasionally stop into the coin-op video booths. I stopped going in there after the time I got out of my chair to see a young black fag feeling his dick and stairing at me.[/QUOTE]I've had the same experience as well at the Superstore on Trop. Several times I've been propositioned by a young black (or latin) kid wanting to suck my cock. No joke. I obviously haven't ever stuck around long enough to find out whether if it was an offer for free or if they expect some charity in return. The guy at the counter never seems to care whether I tell him there's a shady man loitering in the arcade or not.
These video arcades seem to attract all the gay men for some strange reason. It's a worldwide phenomenon. I've been to a variety of porn theaters abroad over the years (all straight porn), and they all tend to be the flocking grounds for gay men to hook up and suck each others dicks off. It's the strangest thing in my opinion. Why the straight porn?? The last time I've snooped around in a porn theater was well over 15 yrs ago, so things may be different now.
So no, you will absolutely not find a girl an adult bookstore/superstore, at least not in Las Vegas.
[QUOTE=Domino Harvey] Several times I've been propositioned by a young black (or latin) kid wanting to suck my cock.
So no, you will absolutely not find a girl an adult bookstore/superstore, at least not in Las Vegas.[/QUOTE]
I was in the bookstore behind Circus circus last year. I was looking at the DVD's and this little asian dude cut in front of me and grabbed my dick! I hauled off and slapped the shit out of him. dude ran out the back door.
There some weird shit in them places.
Be safe out there............
[QUOTE=Domino Harvey]These video arcades seem to attract all the gay men for some strange reason. It's a worldwide phenomenon. I've been to a variety of porn theaters abroad over the years (all straight porn), and they all tend to be the flocking grounds for gay men to hook up and suck each others dicks off. It's the strangest thing in my opinion. Why the straight porn?? The last time I've snooped around in a porn theater was well over 15 yrs ago, so things may be different now.[/QUOTE]It comes from the days where most of these places had glory holes in the booths. The straight porn on the screen isn't a factor. Someplace dark and hidden is the key attraction now days. If you're a gay male in a strange town, you can always find a hook up by hitting the traditional spots.
The one that's always stumped me is, why do the gay males meet up at the rest stop bathrooms? That's got to be one of the most off the wall places.
[QUOTE=Vegas Black]I was in the bookstore behind Circus circus last year. I was looking at the DVD's and this little asian dude cut in front of me and grabbed my dick! I hauled off and slapped the shit out of him. dude ran out the back door.
There some weird shit in them places.
Be safe out there............[/QUOTE]I went to the book store on LV Blvd up close Nellis. The one with the singles and couples booth to watch videos, but also watch the neighbor through a glass screen...
But the couples you find in there are usually two guys. One time I opened the curtain in my glass to take a peak at the "couple" next door.
And they were two guys. They though that because I peaked it was a sign I was interested. With in a minute I had a knock on my door and it was one of the guys in the couples booth. He tried to force his way in to my booth, but punched him right in the throat and got out of there quick.
The store owner asked what happened and I told him someone was trying to get into my booth. So I protected myself. He said shit not again.
How about we start a official Las Vegas Chat like 1 day a month/week. We can get real time info if we did this.
Be safe out there..............
[QUOTE=Daijiro]I went to the book store on LV Blvd up close Nellis. The one with the singles and couples booth to watch videos, but also watch the neighbor through a glass screen.
But the couples you find in there are usually two guys. One time I opened the curtain in my glass to take a peak at the "couple" next door.
And they were two guys. They though that because I peaked it was a sign I was interested. With in a minute I had a knock on my door and it was one of the guys in the couples booth. He tried to force his way in to my booth, but punched him right in the throat and got out of there quick.
The store owner asked what happened and I told him someone was trying to get into my booth. So I protected myself. He said shit not again.[/QUOTE]I walked back to the booths in that same store once, about a year ago. A guy was trolling back there, and grabbed his crotch when he saw me. I said "sorry, I'm looking for girls" and he looked at me like I was speaking in tongues. I just walked out. At this point I'd be afraid anything you found at these places had a penis, even if it looked like a girl.
[QUOTE=Vegas Partier]I walked back to the booths in that same store once, about a year ago. A guy was trolling back there, and grabbed his crotch when he saw me. I said "sorry, I'm looking for girls" and he looked at me like I was speaking in tongues. I just walked out. At this point I'd be afraid anything you found at these places had a penis, even if it looked like a girl.[/QUOTE]
A while back I posted about the arcades.
I first moved here in '81. On the Fremont/Charleston track there was, like today, some SW action. After Moran became Sherrif and began his anti-pussy campaign, those SWs would duck into The Talk of The Town when the police cruisers came by. That used to be a big porno shop in the strip mall on the SE corner of the Charleston/Eastern intersection.
A monger could grab a quick $10 BJ from one of the girls (in the booth), who started hanging in there more often (safety?). Then the dudes in dresses showed up. Not the chicks with dicks but dudes in dresses. There could be no mistake in thinking they weren't guys. Then - just guys and the quick end to what could've been a nice environment. It was over in less than a year and the city began a campaign against the porno shops.
There used to be another, much smaller store downtown that had 2 theaters - 1 gay, 1 straight where one could grab a quickie from a chick in the straight theater or a behind the store parking lot BJ. This was also a result of the 'run 'em off' approach of Sherrif Moran and, like at Talk of The Town, didn't last long before being overrun by the gay crowd.
I don't know what it is with that aspect of society. These gays are not the most sensible people on the block. They seem to have no problem accosting others in any environment. Shopping mall bathrooms, rest stop areas, straight porn theaters - it doesn't matter - they'll go beyond any measure of sensibility when trying to 'score' and then wonder why they get b!tch-slapped for grabbing some guys private area in a public area.
Now that these porno shops have gone towards more of a mainstream concept, I see couples going in but wonder how many, if any, actually visit for more than the shopping experience.
Hello,
I will like to make a trip to Vegas during This Thanksgiving. I'm asian so my family is not too big on Thanksgiving and i believe i got Friday off so i can hop on a plane on Wed. and stay at Vegas until Sunday morning/lunch time. i have never been to Vegas before or outside of Texas.
Is Thanksgiving a good time for Vegas trip? i'll like to try Vegas strip joint, and those famous brothel like bunny ranch(?). how much do you think it will cost me? i'll like this trip to be cheap as much as possible.
Got any advices? Should I fly or drive? iIthink fly is better/cheaper.
i'll alway like to watch famous Vegas show and go to Casion for the first time in my life. do you have any suggestion and what other spots would you recommand?
Thanks
[QUOTE=I Luv Puss]Is Thanksgiving a good time for Vegas trip?...i'll like this trip to be cheap as much as possible.[/QUOTE]Yes.
In my opinion traditional American "family togetherness" type holidays such as Thanksgiving and Christmas are a wonderful time to come to Vegas. The town is starved for paying customers around those holidays, with hotels desperate to get warm bodies into empty beds and thousands of people working in all aspects of the tourist trade standing around painting their nails until the tourists get sick of all that forced togetherness and start heading back to town. Besides the fact that things get cheaper and less crowded, there's no place I'd rather be while everyone else in the country is getting drunk in misery over the strain of trying to pretend they actually like being in the company of aunt Nag and uncle Doofus.
I don't feel I know enough about your other questions to give dependable and current answers, so I won't try, but if you do a search of older posts I know you will find some sound advice about strip clubs. There is a regular visitor to town who posts here under the screen name Speck who I think has been well informed and reliable on the subject of the high quality strip joints that cater to tourists.
Since you will be new in town, I'd also like to strongly recomend that you read through an older thread titled "Clip-joints, scams, and rip-offs" begining at the begining with the first posts here:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2791&page=4&pp=15[/url]
And please do yourself a favor by paying extra special careful attention to this post: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=362864&postcount=260[/url]
Taxi drivers and others who take payoffs from vicious thugs who want to rip you off are good at smelling out a fresh virgin visitor who can be steered to them, and you could have a very bad time if they get ahold of you, with no possibility of any help from local authorities who are also on the payroll of those who would like to rob you, so please take the time to read some of those posts in the link above to avoid their scams. If you do, you'll will most likely have a great time at below average cost with few worries; if you don't bother, then shame on you and carry the name and phone number of your family pinned to your underwear so the hospital or morgue can find your relatives.
Wastrel,
Thank for the links. this is why i try to do my research as early as possible and have some ideas of how to get around town and what spots to hit. so, do not ask cab where the hot spots are but do my research here and just tell the cab to take me where i want to go. Am I correct?
[QUOTE=I Luv Puss] i'll like to try Vegas strip joint, and those famous brothel like bunny ranch(?). how much do you think it will cost me? i'll like this trip to be cheap as much as possible. [/QUOTE]If you want the trip to be as cheap as possible, forget about the brothels.
First, there are none in Vegas. Prostitution is illegal in Vegas, and all of Clark County (where Vegas lives.) The nearest brothels are about 65-80 miles away in Pahrump and Nye County. There are some brothels that claim to have a free shuttle service, but I cannot reccomend that. I've never used them, but it seems like a great way of sticking you out in the middle of the desert for 5 hours with nothing to do but spend your money at the brothel. If you go, research the brothels online (there are a lot of websites, google is your firend) and rent a car for the day to get there. At least if you have a car, you'll be able to hit a few brothels at the same time, and maybe one will have what you want and at a price you can afford.
Which brings us to reason #2: Women working in brothels in NV have a rare mental disorder that makes them think their vaginas are extra special and made out of gold. Even the really ugly ones have this disorder. Because of this, they want exhorbitant prices for the smallest of services. Sure, they'll promise you it's going to be the best $400 BJ you've ever had, but c'mon... I've heard wild tales of people actually getting decent rates at a brothel, but even then, it seems to be a rarity offered to locals and regular customers only. Rancher Bob probably doesn't pay $300 for his weekly HJ, but you probably will.
Since it's Thanskgiving weekend, you might be able to get a deal of some sort, so if you want to check it out, do so. Do some research a head of time, get a rental car, and don't be afraid to walk out and move down the road.
As for your more general questions, there are a lot of websites/forums dedicated to the 'straight' Vegas. There's two that I would suggest:
[url]www.cheapovegas.com[/url] for info about the hotels/casinos themselves, and what they offer.
[url]www.lasvegastalk.com[/url] is a large message board with a lot of Vegas veterans sitting around waiting to answer questions and dispense advice on a wide range of Vegas related items. Read the first couple of pages of messages, a lot of what you want to know is going to already be there, and if not, reading those messages will more than likely help you narrow down your questions.
(Admin: If those links are illegal to post, please feel free to delete them from the message)
Where do you Vegas guys get your nuts off?
SW or something? i monger sometime in Houston, the price go from $20 (crackwhore) to $80, one time a Hispanic SW told me in Vegas she can easily get over $150 per hr. do you guys really pay that much?
[QUOTE=I Luv Puss]Where do you Vegas guys get your nuts off?
SW or something? i monger sometime in Houston, the price go from $20 (crackwhore) to $80, one time a Hispanic SW told me in Vegas she can easily get over $150 per hr. do you guys really pay that much?[/QUOTE]
You make easy pickens dude.
But seriously, you are so pathetic that I will give you a start:
1.) Read this entire board. Seriously. 2005 and 2006. Every post. Really.
2.) Crack ho - same as everywhere $10-30 BBBJ, fs-god help you. Other streetwalkers are sporadic and due to the recent crackdown on Tropicana Ave, pretty scarce at the moment.
3.) Cg aka casino girl - $200 and up. And you are unlikely to get an hour. Really.
[QUOTE=I Luv Puss]Where do you Vegas guys get your nuts off?
SW or something? i monger sometime in Houston, the price go from $20 (crackwhore) to $80, one time a Hispanic SW told me in Vegas she can easily get over $150 per hr. do you guys really pay that much?[/QUOTE]
If you are walking down the strip there will be people handing out fliers with pictures of hot girls and promises of a good time. Look at the pictures but DO NOT CALL THEM! If you do the girl they send will not be the one on the flyer. They wanted $150 just to take off the clothes then the upsell begins. I wish I could have read this forum before I made the mistake of calling the number on the flyer.
[QUOTE=Speck]You make easy pickens dude.
But seriously, you are so pathetic that I will give you a start:
1.) Read this entire board. Seriously. 2005 and 2006. Every post. Really.
2.) Crack ho - same as everywhere $10-30 BBBJ, fs-god help you. Other streetwalkers are sporadic and due to the recent crackdown on Tropicana Ave, pretty scarce at the moment.
3.) Cg aka casino girl - $200 and up. And you are unlikely to get an hour. Really.[/QUOTE]It's what she told me, I do not know what the price is at Vegas (maybe she is lying her ass off, I do not know that's why I ask) and I don't do SW anymore. I'm more into SPA now. You don't need to be rude, calling me pathetic. I thank you for your tips. I'll read the reports that you suggested.
Don't worry Puss,
I had a person who always pasted my comments and had something negative to say. I just stayed off for awhile.
This is a very helpful forum and there will be people who won't not be kind and vice versa.
I do not pickup sw's, especially after reading the forums. I saw on 'cops' last night an episode that was filmed in North L.V. They had an undercover vehicle stop a guy in a p/u. He had a sw but he didn't know she was a he.
They let him go, but he got off lucky twice. It just goes to show how risky the streets are. Yeah, its cheaper than an agency or cw.
Stay away from the business cards, one of them had a picture of my favorite porn star-Charmine Star. They were meant for out of towners who don't do their homework.
One last thing on price. There will be all kinds of factors like her need for money, weekends you can expect high prices due to the demand, where you are doing business (AMP's,cw in a hotel,in your car)and her knowledge of the business.
I stayed at MoBay one time and cw's start at $2 when they hear you are in a 4 star hotel. It was a slow monday, a lot of girls sitting around at the bar. I sat down and as soon as my beer came, she came. I told her I have a girlfriend back in L.A. and $2 wasn't worth it.
She lowered it to $1 and off we went. She told me after not to tell the other girls I only paid $1. The one thing good about it was, she didn't have any business up until then and she was hungry!
for Thanksgiving. I also went to Jackson's internationalsexguide and read about Mexico. TJ and Monterrey really caught my eyes, I tho about fly/drive to Cali and cross the board to TJ then on my way back home I stop at Vegas but TJ seem to be dangerous. Monterrey, Mexico seem much safer.
Thank for all you guys feedback. i think it's either TJ or Monterrey for me.
Happy mongering,
Cheer
[QUOTE=I Luv Puss] i don't think i'm going to Vegas...i think it's either TJ or Monterrey for me.[/QUOTE]Probably a sensible decision, since Las Vegas really isn't such a great budget traveller's destination nowadays. It's very good if you've got lots of cash to burn in high end resorts on some high priced tail, but doing the town on a budget is now an art form that takes a lot of time and local knowlege that the average working class vacationer probably doesn't have. The really affordable stuff generally is the same kind of SW trade that you see back home in Houston, with about the same price and quality and risks, and what makes sense for most tourists are the extremely good looking but quite spendy casino girls for a rare high priced fantasy experience.
But, if you want to ditch your loved ones again, or vice versa, on the next big American family holiday, you might consider Christmas in Vegas. Things get dirt cheap then just before they get very expensive in the build up to New Years eve, you can usually book a pretty nice room for something like twenty to forty bucks, and even some of those really good looking working girls in the casinos can become a better deal due to a temporary imbalance of supply and demand as they stream into town ahead of the huge New Years crowds. Also, I think the poor hookers look really cute shivering in their skimpy little Santa's helper outfits and the town looks so festive at night with the Xmas lights twinkling in the pawnshop windows.
Puss,
I have been to Mexico many times, that is where Guady comes from, Guadalajara. I have also been to Puerto Vallarta and TJ.
With TJ, I got a hotel in S.D. and there are tour companies that have buses that will pick you up at your hotel. They will take you across the border fast and easy.
They dropped us off at some street called revolution and you were on your own. It didn't take long for a cabbie to hook me up with a message parlor. I wish I had kept the business card but I know from this one street I met him, it was a straight 5 minute ride.
When inside, the owner had the ladies walk past you (it was me and another guy) it must have been over 20. I knew the look I wanted and when I saw her, I scooped her up right away. It only cost me $20 for everything. I can say TJ is very cheap.
The women I have been with in Mexico "all" gave me a GFE. I can say you are lucky to get that in Vegas.
I have lived in Vegas for 5 years and mongered hard where I used to live but this place is a challenge in it own. The forum is very helpful but I look for GFE's and that takes alot of work.
after reading reports at Jackson's international sexguide forums.
Mexico seem to be the place to get your nutz off for cheap. The only problem that I have is safety, I don't want cabbies/people to slit my thorat and rob me blind plus I speak no Spanish at all.
I guess it's best to hook up with someone down there to hold my noob hand.
Dude, if the cabbies slit the throats of tourists in the tourist section of town, don't you think it would be bad for business? Maybe tourists would stop coming there, and the hookers and bars would lose business and stop paying off the cops? All in all, it is better for everyone if the cabbies DON'T slit the throats of the tourists.
The international guide has tons of good advice for newbs. Here's Tijuana in a nutshell:
Drive to the border and park in one of the lots on the US side.
Cross the border
Find a taxi (well, they will find you). Say "Adelita Bar" (ah-day-LEE-tah bar).
Sit in the front with the cabbie. Pay him $5 when you get there.
Go in, buy a beer, look at the pretty ladies. Buy one of them a drink.
If you don't like any of them, cross the street to Chicago Bar.
When you find a girl you like, negotiate a price, go upstairs, have naughty dirty sex. (Tip the guy with the mop a dollar).
Get a cab. Say "USA" or "aduana" (ah-DWA-na, border). Pay $5
Cross to the US (have your license!), then walk across the bridge over the highway to the parking lots.
Drive home.
[QUOTE=KC Questor]...don't you think it would be bad for business? Maybe tourists would stop coming there, and the hookers and bars would lose business and stop paying off the cops?[/QUOTE]You might think so, but at least in this town you would be [I]very wrong[/I], as recently proven and admitted to in Federal (NOT State or local) court, once again recently. There seems no limit to the number of tourists who are available to take their place in line to be robbed, beaten, crippled, or killed, with full knowlege and approval of local government and law enforcement in Las Vegas. No flaw in your logic that I see, it just happens to be completely at variance with the facts locally. Just because it is happening apparently doesn't necessarily mean there are many choosing to pay attention, or that it is broadcast widely enough to matter. Yet.
But your remark was about the other side of the border, and I'll just take your word for it that Mexico is different, since it sounds like you're much more familiar with it, and I am not.
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Puss,
You don't have to speak spanish in TJ, english is widely spoken. I speak spanish and I had a hard time getting them to speak spanish (I wanted to practice)
because I don't have that hard accent.
Also, I brought peso (mexican dollars), they want U.S. dollars! They can convert that money somewhere and get more money. If you buy a t-shirt for $20US, the peso rate was 11 to 1, when I was there. Well, that $20 becomes
220 pesos when they find their moneychangers, that's a 20 peso "extra" profit.
I can tell you right now, If I were flying from somewhere and I had to choose Vegas or TJ, It would be TJ hands down.
The street the TOUR company dropped us off is full of americans, very safe. Don't waste your time in a bar, get to the point. The one thing they (the bad guys) look for is someone who is not in their right mind (Inebriated). The MP's are safe, fun, and cheap. Try to imagine a "line up" of women, ready to make some money.
I don't know if I mentioned that I paid $50 for the door fee. The girl asked for only $20 for everything but I gave her a $20 tip because she did things I liked without asking. I usually just sit back and see what a woman will do on her own.
You can go to Puerto Vallarta or Guadalajara and they are very safe but they cost at least $100US, the women there are more sophisticated but still worth it. They value money more there than Vegas where it comes pretty easy.
From Adelitas go out the back door to and thru La Valentina to "The Alley" or just walk a half block south from Adelitas. The street is lined, shoulder to shoulder at some points. with SWs. Only problem with that is some are minors (a real big time no-no in Mexico), and you get hustled for the extras. 5 more for sin ropa, etc. - things like that. But it is fun to walk thru a dozen or so young and pretty chicas with all of them grabbing and tugging your shirtsleeve!
Revolucion is the main tourist trap strip.
DO NOT walk back to the pedestrian bridge at nite.
If you already found the International site then you'll have more than a fair share of good info available to you concerning your safety, cash on hand, Policia & banditos (sometimes they're the same thing), etc.
I have a few maps if needed.
[QUOTE=Wastrel]You might think so, but at least in this town you would be [I]very wrong[/I], as recently proven and admitted to in Federal (NOT State or local) court, once again recently. There seems no limit to the number of tourists who are available to take their place in line to be robbed, beaten, crippled, or killed, with full knowlege and approval of local government and law enforcement in Las Vegas. No flaw in your logic that I see, it just happens to be completely at variance with the facts locally. Just because it is happening apparently doesn't necessarily mean there are many choosing to pay attention, or that it is broadcast widely enough to matter. Yet.
But your remark was about the other side of the border, and I'll just take your word for it that Mexico is different, since it sounds like you're much more familiar with it, and I am not.
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I certainly wouldn't want to argue with you about Vegas, Wastrel. However, you say in the first link:
[quote]Here is a hint of what can happen to [b]unwary[/b] tourists who let themselves [b]get delivered[/b] to one of the [b]mobbed up places[/b] in town.[/quote]
([i]emphasis mine[/i])
I was saying that if you know where you are going (in TJ) and you stay within the confines of accepted behavior at the accepted locations, you'll be fine.
An equivalent would be
1) Telling the cabby "Spearmint Rhino", going in, paying for some lap dances, and leaving -- safe
2) Asking the cabbie to take you somewhere "for a good time", going in, paying a girl "for a good time" and making a big fuss when you don't get laid -- not safe
KC Questor,
I agree completely. Your emphasis on the keywords you highlighted gets to the heart of the matter. And if TJ has any resemblance to some other places I know, like Manila, then I imagine you're probably right about expanding the same general principle to that town too.
The difficulty, and the opportunity for the clip joints to continue to thrive, comes from the fact that with so many thousands of fresh eager virgin wet behind the ears guys coming to Vegas daily, "unwary" accurately describes so many ordinary tourists. I think there is often an assumption that a joint operating in the open with plenty of neon on an attractive facade in Vegas must be allright, that somehow it wouldn't be able to continue doing business so openly in Las Vegas if it was all that bad. But there are plenty that really are that bad, and they have no problem operating for decades in spitting distance of the resort corridor, with plenty of jack to pay the cabbie kickbacks at the back door and the light bill on the impressive sexy signage out front, as well as the rental of several judges and a mayor and some local Metro police officers. It just [I]seems[/I] so perfectly reasonable to many to think that a guy should be able to head out on the town for a lap dance on the spur of the moment without mapping out the whole frickin' operation in advance to protect his ass and his assets.
In Las Vegas too, as I think you correctly implied in your post, the solution is usually pretty simple: arm yourself with some knowlege of the local scene in advance, don't be steered someplace by someone who doesn't have your best interest in mind, know where you want to go and how to get there, and demand that your driver do exactly that, no matter what blather comes out of his mouth to the effect that the place is closed or burned down or has ugly girls and he has something better for you. Do that, and also avoid committing the universal international offense of "travelling while stupid," and you're fine. But it doesn't occur to a lot of tourists that they really need to do that in Vegas, too, just as I'd want to do in Juarez or Manila or whatever.
Regards,
W
Starting at 5:00 p.m. (Pacific) time today (Tuesday-8/1) Court TV is running a 1998 Cops episode described in my satellite listing as follows: [I][B]"Las Vegas - Vice Squad Special Edition: In Las Vegas, undercover officers target prostitution."[/I][/B]
Actually, it appears to be the kickoff of a veritable Cops in Vegas festival today, as this begins a two hour block of Cops with three more Las Vegas episodes (circa 1997) following the vice special. All the Metro khaki you can eat, come and get it. Court TV has the same episodes scheduled to air again tonight from 9:00 to 11:00 p.m.