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[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity;1897001]I'd say that the ads were pulled right after their sting was finished. But I'll bet that they will try again.[/QUOTE]Seems to be the new norm for these things, eh? That is why reviews and a history are important.
What is sad is that this law enforcement method is lazy and a waste of taxpayer money. How about going after the pimps and druggies?
Check out this article from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: 'Johns' targeted in prostitution crackdown. [URL]http://on.jsonl.in/1crilyZ[/URL].
[QUOTE=SamLikey;1915795]Check out this article from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: 'Johns' targeted in prostitution crackdown. [URL]http://on.jsonl.in/1crilyZ[/URL].[/QUOTE]Looks like they may take your car too. Better be careful out there or you may be walking the perp walk.
[QUOTE=Member#4201;1916207]Looks like they may take your car too. Better be careful out there or you may be walking the perp walk.[/QUOTE]This was on Ch. 12 news last night...complete with showing a takedown. No less than 4 or 5 squads blocking in the dude. Seems alderman bob donovan is very happy about this.
[QUOTE=Whytlotus;1916213]This was on Ch. 12 news last night...complete with showing a takedown. No less than 4 or 5 squads blocking in the dude. Seems alderman bob donovan is very happy about this.[/QUOTE]I posted about this earlier in the wrong section of course, but I'm curious as to how they can arrest and charge. From what I've been reading LE will not get in the car with you so, say if you let a well known prostitute in your car and drive off can they pull you over, arrest and charge you for that or do they need solid evidence that you were intending on doing something?
[QUOTE=TheDarkLurker;1920420]I posted about this earlier in the wrong section of course, but I'm curious as to how they can arrest and charge. From what I've been reading LE will not get in the car with you so, say if you let a well known prostitute in your car and drive off can they pull you over, arrest and charge you for that or do they need solid evidence that you were intending on doing something?[/QUOTE]The working girl doesn't even have to get in your car to get a ticket. If you're seen frequently driving in a popular area known for picking up hookers you could get a ticket for prostitution related loitering. Same if you pull over and talk to them and if you pick her up guess what. You'll get a ticket too.
[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity;1920784]The working girl doesn't even have to get in your car to get a ticket. If you're seen frequently driving in a popular area known for picking up hookers you could get a ticket for prostitution related loitering. Same if you pull over and talk to them and if you pick her up guess what. You'll get a ticket too.[/QUOTE]Now hold on. I am sure that if they pull you over and you have a hooker in your car they can write you up, just like if you pulled over and initiated contact with an undercover, even if no money changed hands. BUT, as far as this "prostitution related loitering", I don't see how they could ever do that. First off, it isn't illegal to joy-ride. Loitering implies that you are staying at a place of business with no intention of paying, like kids hanging out at a gas station, but you can drive where ever the hell you want. Furthermore, for the sake of argument lets say they could charge you for just cruising around; they could never prove in court that you were driving around with that intention, hell unless they showed traffic cams they couldn't even prove that they had observed you driving around in a suspicious way at all. Finally, lets say they DID charge you with "prostitution related loitering", and it went to court. If you were found not guilty, and you had a half decent lawyer, you could sue the living shit out of the city for defamation of character. If your name was posted on the wisconsin circuit court website for a prostitution related offense and you could prove that they had no evidence to support this (which they wouldn't), you'd have lawyers licking their chops to get that case.
[QUOTE=Jd920;1921128]Now hold on. I am sure that if they pull you over and you have a hooker in your car they can write you up, just like if you pulled over and initiated contact with an undercover, even if no money changed hands. BUT, as far as this "prostitution related loitering", I don't see how they could ever do that. First off, it isn't illegal to joy-ride. Loitering implies that you are staying at a place of business with no intention of paying, like kids hanging out at a gas station, but you can drive where ever the hell you want. Furthermore, for the sake of argument lets say they could charge you for just cruising around; they could never prove in court that you were driving around with that intention, hell unless they showed traffic cams they couldn't even prove that they had observed you driving around in a suspicious way at all. Finally, lets say they DID charge you with "prostitution related loitering", and it went to court. If you were found not guilty, and you had a half decent lawyer, you could sue the living shit out of the city for defamation of character. If your name was posted on the wisconsin circuit court website for a prostitution related offense and you could prove that they had no evidence to support this (which they wouldn't), you'd have lawyers licking their chops to get that case.[/QUOTE]That's some scary stuff so I'm guessing driving around for more than 5 minutes will make you a suspect. Trying to learn as much as I can before jumping in being on CC website isn't a good look for me LOL.
[QUOTE=Jd920;1921128]Now hold on. I am sure that if they pull you over and you have a hooker in your car they can write you up, just like if you pulled over and initiated contact with an undercover, even if no money changed hands. BUT, as far as this "prostitution related loitering", I don't see how they could ever do that. First off, it isn't illegal to joy-ride. Loitering implies that you are staying at a place of business with no intention of paying, like kids hanging out at a gas station, but you can drive where ever the hell you want. Furthermore, for the sake of argument lets say they could charge you for just cruising around; they could never prove in court that you were driving around with that intention, hell unless they showed traffic cams they couldn't even prove that they had observed you driving around in a suspicious way at all. Finally, lets say they DID charge you with "prostitution related loitering", and it went to court. If you were found not guilty, and you had a half decent lawyer, you could sue the living shit out of the city for defamation of character. If your name was posted on the wisconsin circuit court website for a prostitution related offense and you could prove that they had no evidence to support this (which they wouldn't), you'd have lawyers licking their chops to get that case.[/QUOTE]I know that I'm right on this but if you think you know better go ahead and give it a try. Then we'll see who knows what they are talking about. Let us know how it goes for you. The bottom line is that you can't fight city hall. And your argument about "not being illegal to joyride" isn't valid. Don't you remember the ordinances that were put in effect to stop cruising?
[QUOTE=TheDarkLurker;1923906]That's some scary stuff so I'm guessing driving around for more than 5 minutes will make you a suspect. Trying to learn as much as I can before jumping in being on CC website isn't a good look for me LOL.[/QUOTE]If you keep going around the block "sniffing" I'd say you are looking for trouble.
[QUOTE=Jd920;1921128]Finally, lets say they DID charge you with "prostitution related loitering", and it went to court. If you were found not guilty, and you had a half decent lawyer, you could sue the living shit out of the city for defamation of character. If your name was posted on the wisconsin circuit court website for a prostitution related offense and you could prove that they had no evidence to support this (which they wouldn't), you'd have lawyers licking their chops to get that case.[/QUOTE]You are sadly mistaken. Say you were cited but they eventually dropped the charges you really think you could sue the city? Why doesn't every single person who has the charges dropped or is found "not guilty" of any crime sue the city and win? The only way you could sue the city is if you had a ton of evidence showing you were cited maliciously and the police were arresting people just because they could and without regard for even the slightest bit of probable cause. If you are seen circling the neighborhood a few times that is probable cause right there to cite you for a cruising violation. Also, there are more cameras out there than you think. Be smart and don't even get yourself into that position in the first place.
[QUOTE=Sinlover;1924498]You are sadly mistaken. Say you were cited but they eventually dropped the charges you really think you could sue the city? Why doesn't every single person who has the charges dropped or is found "not guilty" of any crime sue the city and win? The only way you could sue the city is if you had a ton of evidence showing you were cited maliciously and the police were arresting people just because they could and without regard for even the slightest bit of probable cause. If you are seen circling the neighborhood a few times that is probable cause right there to cite you for a cruising violation. Also, there are more cameras out there than you think. Be smart and don't even get yourself into that position in the first place.[/QUOTE]On top of all this, legal cases are very time consuming. My case against the state took three years. Better to heed the advice and walk.
Scary incident on 25th and Orchard. Shots fired as police served a search warrant. Six were arrested, three men and three women. All three women have a record of prostitution. Both crack and heroin were confiscated. Another reminder that these streets are dangerous. It is not smart at all to go anywhere a streetwalker would want to take you. You lose all control of a situation when you walk into a house you do not know. There are bad people out there and you are on their turf. Be ultra careful.
[URL]http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-news/MPD-officers-shot-at-while-serving-search-warrant-235506901.html[/URL]
Be safe my friends.
[URL]http://fox6now.com/2014/01/27/police-make-nine-arrests-in-prostitution-sting/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wanderer1;1994219]Be safe my friends.
[URL]http://fox6now.com/2014/01/27/police-make-nine-arrests-in-prostitution-sting/[/URL][/QUOTE]They may all travel to Madison until the heat is off.