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[I love living in the past, at least for as long as admin still keeps it a "sticky" past in this thread instead of archiving it, so I'll just post this where the conversation started.]

[QUOTE=Member #3278]Been planning a stay at IP myself as Harrahs security wouldn't allow "visitors".[/QUOTE]How exactly did they do that? Is Harrah's posting security at the elevators and questioning who belongs upstairs with your key card? Only a very few places that I know of regularly do that. Just curious. Since I'm really not a big fan of their style of hotel/casino management it's not likely I'll ever pay for a room there myself. But I've been wondering if the Harrah's disease might infect some of the other properties they've recently swallowed up, such as the Flamingo and Caesars, and suck the life out of them.

Personally, I have a small selection of old key cards for use as loaners at a few of the places I go to with some frequency, some of them kept by me just to use their gym and such, and I've known some locally based working girls who have quite an impressive collection of them in a portable file like a business card organizer.

I've long wanted to know what's up with the so called "Luv Tub" and "Deluxe Luv Tub" rooms at the Imperial Palace, if anyone ever gets one of those. Whatever they really are, I'm sure I could find some kind of recreational use for one of them, even though they seem to charge about 30-50% more than for their standard rooms.

[QUOTE=Wastrel][I love living in the past, for as long as admin still keeps it a "sticky" past in this thread, so I'll just post this where the conversation started.]

How exactly did they do that? Is Harrah's posting security at the elevators and questioning who belongs upstairs with your key card? Only a very few places that I know of regularly do that. Just curious. Since I'm really not a big fan of their style of hotel/casino management it's not likely I'll ever pay for a room there myself. But I've been wondering if the Harrah's disease might infect some of the other properties they've recently swallowed up, such as the Flamingo and Caesars, and suck the life out of them.

I have to admit I didn't test the security, just was told by 2 different girls I met outside the pavilion that they wouldn't be allowed up with me there. In retrospect maybe it was that they were "known" there, and 86'd. They do post security in the evenings at all elevators, and are adamant at seeing key cards. I stayed there only because I was comped, but I really don't care for the place myself either. I was concerned that a 50 something with a 20 year old of a different race may raise suspicion, and didn't want to get into a scene. Maybe just my paranoia.

Thanks for the info.[QUOTE=Member #3278]In retrospect maybe it was that they were "known" there, and 86'd.[/QUOTE]Probably, and at Harrah's they may have been 86'd just for working, or it could have been due to ripping off customers or other serious misbehavior as it would be at most any other gaming property, and in that case they may have done you a favor by running them off.[QUOTE=Member #3278]They do post security in the evenings at all elevators, and are adamant at seeing key cards...I was concerned that a 50 something with a 20 year old of a different race may raise suspicion...[/QUOTE]Nah, there wouldn't have been any kind of suspicion, cuase they'd know exactly what was going on and probably be giving numerical ratings to your date's body parts, estimating her price, and making book with each other in the security office on how long she'd be upstairs. My temporary fiancees and nieces are usually a couple decades younger and many shades darker and often have really outrageous taste in fashion tending towards fishnet stockings and stilleto heels, but I do try to be polite and considerate in public and insist that they behave themselves for a few minutes as I escort them in for our little honeymoon and divorce. Those standards of public propriety can vary from property to property, even within the same company, depending on what market niche they are targeting. I'd think of Harrah's trying to maintain an atmosphere like a suburban shopping mall, for example, while others do not:

[I][Color=green]Nevada's Gaming Control Board is investigating the activities in Las Vegas casino resort nightclubs -- including Light at Bellagio, one of the Strip's top two resorts.

The board has already met with casino executives to let them know that there is concern about activities in the clubs, and the board continues to look into what is taking place in the pricey and risque venues.

An event taking place tonight at Light is an example of the kind of event that is fueling the scrutiny of the Control Board, the gaming industry's cop and tax collector.

Light this evening is holding the Crazy Horse Too strip club's 2006 calendar release party, an event that will be hosted by the women who pose for the calendar.

Only two years ago the Control Board roasted license applicant Tim Poster for his friendship with Crazy Horse Too owner Rick Rizzolo, telling the future (and now former) Golden Nugget owner that Rizzolo was the subject of an FBI investigation and that the club employs several people with organized crime connections.

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...MGM Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman said tonight's event makes sense from a business perspective.

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"The club business is a competitive environment; it's very sexy," Feldman said.

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He noted that Rizzolo hasn't been indicted...

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[QUOTE=Seamuso]Would a LV resident or frequent visitor please advise me which strip hotels, preferably cheap like Circus Circus or Barbary Coast, rent rooms for cash to someone with an out-of-state driver's license and does not object if he brings a SW or CW up to his room?

I don't want a credit card bill showing the No Tell Motel.

Thanks.

Seamuso[/QUOTE]Out of state license is ceratainly no problem, as a local is actually more suspicious renting a room on the Strip. The place has been known to accomodate a few out of town visitors on occasion. But every hotel I'm aware of will want to run your credit card at check-in for an authorization to pay for incidentals, extra charges, or damages. If you pay cash and don't use anything charged to your room, including the phone, then it MAY not appear on your statement if they don't run a "hard charge" but I don't know how to make sure of that, since many hotels in Vegas play games whith their guest's folios by padding the bill with little ticky tacky stuff. The no-tells such as the Oasis (702-735-6494 at 1731 Las Vegas Blvd S) are much more likely to let you check in with cash and no credit card so long as both you and your date have valid gov't issued ID.

For some odd reason I find many non-local working girls and "friends" stay at the Circus-Circus, of all places, perhaps becuase it's relatively cheap, or maybe just becuase pimps have really bad taste. Online bookings require a card of course, but of any of the conventional Strip hotels I think it might be worth calling them at 1-877-434-9175 to see what they will do on a cash only basis. I'd explain that I'm in the middle of buying a house and don't want any credit card activity at this time to avoid messing with the mortgage underwriting process.

Other hotels in the Coast Casinos chain have always asked me for a credit card authorization at check-in, even when I'm not paying that way, so I imagine the Barbary Coast would probably do the same.

Harrahs is the only current constant I know of in Las Vegas. Never a lot of girls, but always a few decent ones. For the most part, they are less outrageous in attire than their counterparts you might see over by Flamingo. Anyway, I have spent the night at Harrahs and taken a working girl up to my room. Security could not have cared less. Why would they want to piss off a gambler?

That said, I have seen cg's 86'ed from Harrahs many times. For whatever reason, the pimps are insanely aggressive in this area and tend to go into Harrahs to hassle the girls. Harrah's security really does not seem to care about the safety of the girls, only getting rid of the immediate problem. So both parties are booted.

Just this past weekend, I had a cg encounter at Harrahs. I posted it in the 2006 thread.

Interesting, thanks for filling in the picture. Tends to confirm the theory that those ladies had some particular individual problems leading the property's security to treat them as bad news. Perhaps just not able to "fit in" to the satisfaction of the casino's preferred image, or just caught in one of those scenes that they wanted to just quickly sweep out without sorting it out, or maybe something more serious like a trick roll. Those pimps and wannabes really do get out of hand and have no sense, and I wish they would just take some of them out back to the shop for a major tune up and valve adjustment.

I may try using it for 'take-out' one of these days then. When I go to the Strip I'm often near there. My sour attitude about some aspects of their management approach really has nothing to do with the main purpose of this forum, and doesn't come from any experiences hooking up in there.

I will be in Vegas in February.

Stayed at Harrahs.

Can I get sp in my room.

I will be visiting Vegas in a few weeks, and always find time for a massage or two. I have one regular but continue to look for other providers and variations. Does anyone have information on a female named "Midori"? She claims to do the rub in the nude but can't get much other info from her. Also wondering about a black gal named "Rose" and a Japanese/American named "Lilly". Any information would be appreciated and I will let the board know of my experiences.

[QUOTE=Seamuso]Would a LV resident or frequent visitor please advise me which strip hotels, preferably cheap like Circus Circus or Barbary Coast, rent rooms for cash to someone with an out-of-state driver's license and does not object if he brings a SW or CW up to his room?

I don't want a credit card bill showing the No Tell Motel.

Thanks.

Seamuso[/QUOTE]


To my knowledge, they ALL rent rooms for cash. You DO need a credit card to check in, but at check out simply tell them you want to pay cash. No record of any kind has ever showed up on any of my credit card statements in these situations. They will usually put a 'hold' authorization on your card for a minimum amount just to verify the card is valid. Most rental car companies do this same thing. Again, if you pay the final bill with cash, nothing shows up on your credit card statement.

If you are staying at a property for an extended period of time, I would verify at check in their billing policy: i.e., when your account balance reaches a certain dollar amount, or a certain number of room nights. Just make sure you settle with cash before they trigger the billing. I've never stayed longer than 5 consecutive nights, but at checkout the clerk normally asks if I "want to leave the charges on the card" before actually processing the transaction.


Good mongering

Inlander

The last time I used a room at the Boardwalk for activities I was shocked when I got my credit card printout a month later.

I specifically told them I wanted to pay cash and was told it would not be a problem. But, because I used a card to guarantee the room, it showed up as a charge and then offset by a credit.

That thing went into the shredder real fast.

I'm not sure you can guarantee that nothing will ever show up.

[QUOTE=Seamuso]Would a LV resident or frequent visitor please advise me which strip hotels, preferably cheap like Circus Circus or Barbary Coast, rent rooms for cash to someone with an out-of-state driver's license and does not object if he brings a SW or CW up to his room?

I don't want a credit card bill showing the No Tell Motel.

Thanks.

Seamuso[/QUOTE]

Most hotels/motels ask for credit information. If you don't have a credit card they then ask for a drivers license in order to screen out convicted felons or wanted people (security precaution) along with a hefty deposit. If you're trying to mask your immoral activities then you won't have much luck just having cash in hand in order to reserve accomodations in las vegas. Too many unfavorables come to las vegas such as drug dealing weekenders and pimps with criminal records which require hotels/motels to initiate a pro-active search should you have a criminal history. Now, this is not a hard a fast rule, but should law enforcement have reason to investigate you, they can legally supoena (sp?) records of your visit to Las Vegas including any accomodations you have booked via some form of indentity.

If you're just an honest citizen, the reservation at the Circus Circus or Barbary Coast hardly constitutes as a "no tell motel". As far as whether security would bother you about who you brought up to your room, thats an iffy type of question. Unless they knew the person you were bringing up as a known SW,CW etc that has caused problems in the past then they might take notice.

Now if you were to reserve a room at the Oasis motel, then you would be suspect to whoever is aware of the infamous motel!

By they way, you don't need a credit card to rent a vehicle. They just ask for a big deposit if you don't have a credit card.

[QUOTE=ClitCommander]Now, this is not a hard a fast rule, but should law enforcement have reason to investigate you, they can legally supoena (sp?) records of your visit to Las Vegas including any accomodations you have booked via some form of indentity.[/QUOTE]A little correction: they don't have to subpeona anything, and this is a very hard and very fast rule in Vegas. By law all local lodging establishments are required to check a gov't issued ID for all guests, and all registration records are available immediately for inspection by law enforcement all the time, no exceptions, no form of formal request or reason is needed, and no delay tolerated. Any hotel, motel, or other lodging establishment which does not comply WILL be shut down. LE sees everything in the registration records any time they wish, and they do wish very often, so don't come to Vegas if you have a felony warrant. "Hiding out" from the law in Vegas is just about the dumbest thing anyone could possibly think of, but of course there's no shortage of criminals stupid enough to think it's a good idea and dozens more such morons arrive every day, and they get busted if the state issuing the warrant is willing to bother with the expense of extradition. They aren't checking up on your morality, just your criminal record. If you don't have one, don't sweat it. Many other cities and states 'round the world have similar laws.

I have the impression that the original poster was mostly concerned about the paper trail on the credit card getting back to the wife or girlfriend or whatever, and not wanting to explain about sweating up the sheets in the "XXX Love Shack" with Bambi to the little woman at home, or some such. Even most of the inexpensive tourist hotels want an authorization on a valid credit card for financial reasons, to recover their costs if you use the bed as an ashtray, play soccer with the TV with the window as your goalpost, steal the sheets, and run up a tab for booze and munchies. It also screens out people who a casino isn't interested in wasting a rooom on. For example, this is from the registration web page for the El Cortez, an inexpensive downtown joint: "GUESTS CHECKING IN MUST PRESENT A VALID CREDIT CARD." The all caps emphasis is theirs. They do mean must. I've been stuck in line behind little old ladies arguing with the desk staff when they weren't allowed to check-in becuase they didn't have any such card. Some places may allow you to fork over a sack of cash as a deposit in lieu of a card but many won't. I think the no-tell is more understanding of this problem of not wanting to introduce the girlfriend to the wife via a credit card bill, but I'd check ahead directly with them to be sure if I had that situation.

An authorization is not the same thing as putting through any charges to the card of course, but some of these deposits are put through as hard charges and reversed sometime after check out by the back office staff if nothing is owed on the folio, some make a token hard charge ($1 at the Plaza) just to verify the card, some just take an imprint and never run the card if they don't need to, and others just put an authorization "hold" on it without any charges if you are careful to take care of everything in cash. If this is important to someone, best talk to the individual hotel in detail in advance to be sure, and don't generalize from any of our individual experiences at individual hotels, becuase it varies from property to property and changes are made to a particular property's procedures from time to time.

I spend over 100 nights a year in hotel rooms all over the place, and I'm often surprised at what ends up being done with the folio (the guest bill) and my card, even at places I've stayed before.

[QUOTE=Amon]I will be visiting Vegas in a few weeks, and always find time for a massage or two. I have one regular but continue to look for other providers and variations. Does anyone have information on a female named "Midori"? She claims to do the rub in the nude but can't get much other info from her. Also wondering about a black gal named "Rose" and a Japanese/American named "Lilly". Any information would be appreciated and I will let the board know of my experiences.[/QUOTE]

If it's the same Midori i had, she had a Japanese accent, says she's from Tokyo, who knows? any way, she's got a sweet voice, works out of motels out past the airport area, and has several tatoos.

Had a session with her about 6 months ago.

[QUOTE=Wastrel]
My sour attitude about some aspects of their management approach really has nothing to do with the main purpose of this forum, and doesn't come from any experiences hooking up in there.[/QUOTE]

Well their gaming, particularly BJ sucks huge hairy ones. I stayed there because I got a average room rate of $62 a night last January over a 5 day period including weekends. My gaming mostly consisted of playing poker at the easily accessible Mirage poker room starting around 10pm. Usually by 1 or 2 am the mid limit holdem games($6-12 LHE and $10-20 LHE) games would break and I would drop down to $3-6 and get smashed on free drinks. Most of the time, I would carry on into near noon, stumble across LV Bl., pick up a quick burrito at Chipotle, head up to my room at Harrahs, scarf down the burrito, sleep from noon to 4pm, get up, expel said burrito by various means, pass out again, rinse, wash, repeat.

I can't figure out any reason to gamble at Harrahs.

[QUOTE=dusty122]I will be in Vegas in February.

Stayed at Harrahs.

Can I get sp in my room.[/QUOTE]

What is sp?