Sugar Babies

Do you start of with mentioning ppm or they flat out tell you before you meet them?

[QUOTE=Halcyanon;6040610]I do echo what many others have said about SA being a total time sink with lots of crap (scammers, time wasters, online only, etc.) to sift through. However I have had some extra time this summer and decided to dip back in and have found a couple potential gems.

One girl who is basically down for anything including BBFS at 200 per meet, she is on the older side (early 30's) but clean and petite blonde, a little crazy but no major red flags. Says she only needs ppm if there's sex involved. First date was a bar for a quick drink and then back to mine, hopefully meeting again this weekend.

Another girl who is more shy and reserved but also seems open to whatever at 200 per meet. Mid 20's Asian brunette, slim body. First date was drinks at a bar but no fun (no ppm for that obviously, she didn't even ask for one which I respected). In the process of setting up date 2 now which will likely be another quick drink then back to mine.

Then a couple more I'm in the texting stages with who are also down for the 200-300 price point. Again it is work and a time sink but if you like to play the game it can still be worth it. I don't even bother entertaining girls who are asking for 500+ per meet. I just tell them good luck and move on. I would go up to maybe 400 max for a genuinely attractive girl with a nice personality, but hard to justify when there are still solid looking girls in their mid / late 20's who are clean and enthusiastic and do a good job in the 200-300 range.

Curious if anyone else has been active in the NYC bowl this summer and has any intel to share.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dynolas;6041133]Do you start of with mentioning ppm or they flat out tell you before you meet them?[/QUOTE]I never make the first move when it comes to $ talk. Always leave the ball in their court to initiate that discussion, but be ready to go and stand your ground once it happens. Start the negotiation at whatever rate they throw out first (assuming it's something reasonable) and work down from there.

I also personally never use the term "PPM" because it is escort talk and I don't want to come across like I am doing this all the time. I say I am looking for something regular and longer term (not a lie) and that I prefer to speak in terms of a monthly or at least bi-weekly allowance (which often works for getting them to go down to 50-75% of whatever they wanted their standard PPM to be for a one time hookup), but I mention that I also like to take it one date at a time at first until mutual trust is built up.

So effectively making it a PPM without it feeling like a PPM or explicitly calling it that.

I do usually like to get the $ talk out of the way before meeting though, just so I know we are in the same universe and that they don't have any insane expectations.

I am fairly new to the game compared to many others so take my advice with a grain of salt, but this is what I have had success doing so far.

Hello Zippy,

Can you please clear up some space to send PM?

[QUOTE=Zippy17;5981296]I posted about this in much greater detail on another forum; but I hit the fuckin' jackpot (for me, anyway) last week on SA. Previously, I'd only met one girl and reconnected with one former Dony girl on there. Last weekend, I met a gorgeous girl who just told me to come over to her nice East Side apartment at 9:00 PM and proceeded to give me everything there is to give (other than anything involving her ass or my ass, which I didn't ask about, cause it's not my thing) for over 2 hours. Total sweetheart and total nymphomaniac, basically. I'm not able to see her as often as I'd like to, because she's firm on the $1,000; but if that's in your comfort zone, just PM me for her #.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Halcyanon;6041170]I never make the first move when it comes to $ talk. Always leave the ball in their court to initiate that discussion, but be ready to go and stand your ground once it happens. Start the negotiation at whatever rate they throw out first (assuming it's something reasonable) and work down from there.

I also personally never use the term "PPM" because it is escort talk and I don't want to come across like I am doing this all the time. I say I am looking for something regular and longer term (not a lie) and that I prefer to speak in terms of a monthly or at least bi-weekly allowance (which often works for getting them to go down to 50-75% of whatever they wanted their standard PPM to be for a one time hookup), but I mention that I also like to take it one date at a time at first until mutual trust is built up.

So effectively making it a PPM without it feeling like a PPM or explicitly calling it that.

I do usually like to get the $ talk out of the way before meeting though, just so I know we are in the same universe and that they don't have any insane expectations.

I am fairly new to the game compared to many others so take my advice with a grain of salt, but this is what I have had success doing so far.[/QUOTE]Thanks, so you do negotiations before meeting then? My biggest concern is to be anonymous, Aldo to want my real pic or name to be out their and then used against me.

[QUOTE=Dynolas;6045424]Thanks, so you do negotiations before meeting then? My biggest concern is to be anonymous, Aldo to want my real pic or name to be out their and then used against me.[/QUOTE]Yes, I prefer to do at least basic negotiations before meeting (but after moving the convo from SA to text) as to not waste my time and money going on tons of platonic M&Gs just to find out there is a big misalignment on $.

Regarding anonymity, I keep my photos blurred and do not share private photos until I've done at least some vetting / screening of my own. I also do not give out any sensitive info (full name, company I work for, address, etc.) to anyone I don't trust and haven't met with in public first yet. Also now considering not giving that info out at all until I'm in a very well established arrangement, but hard to keep address a secret when they can't host and we are going to my place for dates.

Well mongers, my top two POTs that I wanted to pursue both fell through, so it's back to the drawing board for me. One was way too flaky / unreliable so it was difficult to ever meet, and the other ended up being awful in bed. The kind of girl that just lays there on their back and puts in minimal effort and complains when you ask her to change positions or do anything specific for you. Was really disappointed since both seemed quite promising on the initial M&G and both were at great price points for me (sub $300 ppm). Re-starting the search and more hopeful for a better fall "crop" so to speak as the summer selection didn't seem very great.

Anyone else lurking around these boards with any experiences to share or any intel on active NYC girls on SA? I figure I can't be the only one.

24 hours and about a dozen or so phone number exchanges later and I have landed a date with a reasonable POT for tomorrow night. And of course she is from CT. But, she is supposedly driving an hour each way and plans to stay overnight at my place, all for the price of $200 + dinner / drinks at a very mid range restaurant. Seems a bit TGTBT in some ways and I still feel like there is a decent chance she will find an excuse to flake within the next 24 hours, but I will report back my results afterwards regardless.

Then there is POT #2 who wants to "watch Seinfeld and cuddle" Saturday late morning / early afternoon, possibly within just an hour or 2 of parting ways with POT #1. We have not had any discussions of sugar yet, so always the chance that is a disqualifier, but I'm keeping my mouth shut unless she forces me to show my hand.

Curious if I will bat 2/2, strikeout and go 0/2, or land somewhere in the middle. Now I remember how addicting this game is.

I truly miss this game. Been so long since I've played. I'm living vicariously through you now my friend. I really hope you go 2/2!!

[QUOTE=Halcyanon;6077179]24 hours and about a dozen or so phone number exchanges later and I have landed a date with a reasonable POT for tomorrow night. And of course she is from CT. But, she is supposedly driving an hour each way and plans to stay overnight at my place, all for the price of $200 + dinner / drinks at a very mid range restaurant. Seems a bit TGTBT in some ways and I still feel like there is a decent chance she will find an excuse to flake within the next 24 hours, but I will report back my results afterwards regardless.

Then there is POT #2 who wants to "watch Seinfeld and cuddle" Saturday late morning / early afternoon, possibly within just an hour or 2 of parting ways with POT #1. We have not had any discussions of sugar yet, so always the chance that is a disqualifier, but I'm keeping my mouth shut unless she forces me to show my hand.

Curious if I will bat 2/2, strikeout and go 0/2, or land somewhere in the middle. Now I remember how addicting this game is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippy17;5981296]I posted about this in much greater detail on another forum; but I hit the fuckin' jackpot (for me, anyway) last week on SA. Previously, I'd only met one girl and reconnected with one former Dony girl on there. Last weekend, I met a gorgeous girl who just told me to come over to her nice East Side apartment at 9:00 PM and proceeded to give me everything there is to give (other than anything involving her ass or my ass, which I didn't ask about, cause it's not my thing) for over 2 hours. Total sweetheart and total nymphomaniac, basically. I'm not able to see her as often as I'd like to, because she's firm on the $1,000; but if that's in your comfort zone, just PM me for her #.[/QUOTE]Hi Zippy, taking a job in NYC soon wondering if you could share the contact of the $1000 k girl. Sounds amazing. I have been an SD before. A pic would be nice also if possible. Thanks!

Does SA accepts prepaid cards.

Hi Zippy,

I am travelling to NYC again next month. Can you please share the contact info. When you can?

Your PM was full when I tried PMng you last month.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Zippy17;5981296]I posted about this in much greater detail on another forum; but I hit the fuckin' jackpot (for me, anyway) last week on SA. Previously, I'd only met one girl and reconnected with one former Dony girl on there. Last weekend, I met a gorgeous girl who just told me to come over to her nice East Side apartment at 9:00 PM and proceeded to give me everything there is to give (other than anything involving her ass or my ass, which I didn't ask about, cause it's not my thing) for over 2 hours. Total sweetheart and total nymphomaniac, basically. I'm not able to see her as often as I'd like to, because she's firm on the $1,000; but if that's in your comfort zone, just PM me for her #.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JuanRoz2011;6094650]Does SA accepts prepaid cards.[/QUOTE]Yes: only (smart) way to do it.

[QUOTE=JuanRoz2011;6094650]Does SA accepts prepaid cards.[/QUOTE]They did as of a year ago. I paid with vanilla visa cards.

Did you meet yet? How did it go? I'm sure a lot of guys are waiting for the details LOL.

[QUOTE=Halcyanon;6077179]24 hours and about a dozen or so phone number exchanges later and I have landed a date with a reasonable POT for tomorrow night. And of course she is from CT. But, she is supposedly driving an hour each way and plans to stay overnight at my place, all for the price of $200 + dinner / drinks at a very mid range restaurant. Seems a bit TGTBT in some ways and I still feel like there is a decent chance she will find an excuse to flake within the next 24 hours, but I will report back my results afterwards regardless.

Then there is POT #2 who wants to "watch Seinfeld and cuddle" Saturday late morning / early afternoon, possibly within just an hour or 2 of parting ways with POT #1. We have not had any discussions of sugar yet, so always the chance that is a disqualifier, but I'm keeping my mouth shut unless she forces me to show my hand.

Curious if I will bat 2/2, strikeout and go 0/2, or land somewhere in the middle. Now I remember how addicting this game is.[/QUOTE]

I met this very attractive, Indian SB in her early 20's and her boyfriend at the bar for a quick chat and headed up to the room. I showed her my recent test results and enjoyed her bb. When I needed a pause, I had him go for a turn with her. I ended up cumming all over her ass and he promptly jumped in and started banging her, using my cum as lube (she was not on birth control). A bit expensive (1000) but, well worth it. She also offered a protected option for 700 and she is open to meeting without her boyfriend. Message me for contact info.