Lets Date in Philadelphia

[QUOTE=Username]To think I thought maybe not more people had posted on NOB because there was so much going on there, they were afraid it would get shutdown. Well, thats not the case. While its great all the hands on dances,(which are in fact $10) and even on-stage touching of the dancers, as far as I tell they do not cross the line inside the club. In my view this as good a time as you can possibe have legally in a SC and in may in fact be the best one I've been to in this regaurd. (I'd love suggestions if you know one similar or better ... and I'm talking nationally here).

It has been indicated that the girls would date outside the club .. but I assumed you would have to ask for that. 1 wanted to do it in my car (got there on subway so didn't have one, heh) a couple though said they lived like across the street or close by and we could just go to their place.

Now I'm wondering if anyone here has done this, or heard of they just taken people to get robbed. I wonder if that is the case though, simply because if they made a habit if doing this, they'd be in jail already, not working at a club, and this would also draw attention to the club itself and get it shutdown if it happened on a regular basis. Still though, I'm interested to here comments.[/QUOTE]

The NOB has undergone quite a few transformations over it's many years in operation. It's lastest reincarnation (all under the same name and at the same location) is that of an "upscale" gentlemen's club. Since it reopened several months ago it now charges a $10 fee for a membership card in addition to the $10 entrance fee. If you get a membership card and loose or forget to bring it you will have to pay the additional $10 all over again.

Up until the later part of 2000 and all years dating back to when the NOB first opened it was a GREAT place to seek action from well over 90% of the dancers. This is back before the club became a household name around the country (due to the internet). At one point in time the NOB had VIP rooms with beds. There VIP rooms (which is the dressing room now) have now been transformed to a VIP area that is nothing more than a half moon shaped boothed area seperated by a black sheet and guarded off. It doesn't provide any privacy for you are in the area with all the other patrons who were willing to pay the $20 to get the bracelet that allows them unlimited access throughout the night.

The NOB is easily considered a black strip club but it will have some Asians and the occasional PAWG. The number of dancers there is the best part on a weekend night because between 2am and 6am you can see possibly 60 dancers on a very good night come through the doors.

Most dancers at NOB will tell you that they aren't willing to date. It is frowned upon by management to have girls walking in and out of the club with customers nowadays. They even charge the dancers and customers to re-enter the club. The NOB is better suited to get numbers for future prospects but for some reason the dancers here try to charge escort rates like $150 for what's going to actually be a rushed FS.

So the basic info mongers need to know about NOB, go there if you're capable of being satisfied with $10 lapdances. That's the only type of action that is guaranteed.

Lets Date,

How bout some hints on those clubs (you can skip the first one ;) ). With the price of gas, driving to the PH is too expensive.

After writing about the current state of the NOB, I thought that it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a return visit. I arrived at the club at 2:00am knowing that the stage show doesn't start until 2:30am but I had a UG club that I had wanted to be at before 3:30am. Before 2:30am there is actually a decent amount of parking on Broad st. so that is also an incentive to arrive a half hour early.

After parking I approached the entrance, got frisked,walked down the steps, showed my membership card, payed my $10 and got frisked again. There were probably 16 dancers on the floor while I was there and the crowd began to pick up tremendously as I was leaving a half hour or so later. I didn't care to get a lapdance but I decided to tip this one dancer that offered one in order to start up a conversation where I would attempt to get some extras. She wanted $150. This just happens to be a dancer that I have been seeing around the city at different locations over the years and she MOST CERTAINLY has done things for ALOT less.

I really almost had my first mongering experience with her in the VIP room of a now closed club. Back then when I attempted to get extras she said $100. I eventually negotiated a BJ for $50, But once we entered the VIP room, and after paying her, she all of a sudden pulls a fast one where she says "where's my money?" I'm like huh? She attempts to charge me for the time that she was sitting on my lap while we were hashing out the details of the VIP room. She begins knocking on the closed VIP door screaming for help as if I was abusing her. I attempted to open the VIP room door while she was banging on it and she blocked me off with her small frame. The bouncer eventually opened the door and through negotiation I only ended-up $15 shorter (for the 3 phantom lap dances) from the entire experience. He admitted to me that she is a crazy one.

Anyway while talking to her inside of the NOB she says that she has to dance on stage first then she'll be able to leave. All experienced NOB mongers know that's just a line that the strippers tell you in order to not turn you off from potentially dancing with them. I didn't bite. BTW she even asked me if I was the police. Insulting...

I left the NOB and began comtemplating whether or not I really wanted to have another experience at a strip club, albeit one more geared towards extras. So I nixed that idea and decided to turn this into another night of cruising.

I ended up running into the same HSW BSW duo that I had seen in my last cruising report on Friday night/Saturday morning. I pulled up to them not recognizing who they were. The BSW approaches the window and says "Hey I remember you from yesturday." I respond with "Oh yeaahhhh, that's right." I certainly didn't forget about her halitosis so I asked her to send her Puerto Rican friend over. This Puerto Rican SW was a 10 on my SW scale. She came over to my window and gives me the prices $100 for FS and $50 for a BJ. I said "Ooh boy, that's too much." Would you do $40 for a BJ? She agreed and off we went to the same secluded spot that I reported on.

This secluded spot is a few minutes away from were I picked her up but she kept asking where I was taking her, and not to take her too far. I responded to her that "where I was taking her was going to end up being a place where she is going to begin taking ALL of her dates." There was minimal conversation, she would talk to someone in spanish every so often on her cell phone.

We arrived at the spot. I gave her the $40 for the CBJ, she pulled down her jeans at my request and began. After a few minutes in, I pull the trick that I have up my sleeve that has only failed once to date. I said "I'll give you $20 extra dollars for FS, I think that I could finish faster that way." She agreed and hopped on for a couple minutes then we decided to step outside of the vehicle for doggy and I was finished.

After pulling out of the place she asked me "So where is this place at again?" I already knew that she was going to begin using this spot. It seems almost as if this spot was specifically created for people looking to get lewd in public.

On the way to dropping her off we had a bit more conversation where after questioning her she revealed that she was 18 and that she had never danced before. I told her that I came from a club called NOB earlier and she said that she had never heard of it. I described what type of club it was and she said that she was interested in dancing, but not at a club like that. She said that she is considering dancing at Dangerous Curves.

10:30pm arrived at my old Sunday evening stripclub. This is the same club that I met Brickhouse in for the $50 FS,I posted a picture of her a few posts ago. Me and the owner are pretty cool, being that I've been attending his parties before he ever had a club of his own. I posted a report of one of his parties summer of '04. On the way in he greeted me and warned me that he had some new talent that was going to blow my mind. He has asked for my input before on dancer selection and he has certainly delivered.

There were around 20 dancers mixed body types only one was seriously out of shape. A few of them were actually gorgeous. Outside of a 3 girl dildo show the surprise of the night was when the Owner/MC welcomed a dancer to the stage form DC that had contacted him and just wanted to see what his place was like. She didn't have any stripper clothes but she took it all off for one song. Her name is Thunder and she had absolutely the biggest naked ass that I have seen in person. Her waste measurement was like 29 inches and her butt/hips had to be somewhere in the mid 50 inches.

After she finished her set I approached her to see about some mongering opportunities and she proved to me that she should look to get into politics. we went back and forth with her never saying no, and never giving me a price. I grew frustrated ended the conversation and left the place a few minutes later.

1:00am I cruised around the city and made a stop on the K. I noticed a few SW's out. One WSW blond hair/meaty thighs/5'2" early 20's had garnered some interest from me but I didn't feel like making the necessary loops around the area to ensure that it wasn't a sting op.

2:30am I head over to the same UG club with the $20 VIP room. This time I actually elected to receive some service. I got propositioned by the one dancer that I was atracted to the most who attempted to completely shy away from me during my last visit. She approached me and asked if I was dancing, I said "Not right now." She then asked if I was dating. I asked how much. She told me $80 for everything. I declined, even though I wanted to so badly but I didn't forget one thing that pissed me off that she did during my last visit. Even though she was shaped unbelievably and could dance I could tell that she was going to give horable rushed service intentionally.

China approached me shortly afterwards and we agreed to the $50 full service. A rubber is supplied with the $20 VIP room fee. the VIP room had a day bed a few chairs and a love seat that was flipped upside down. I took care of my business using the day bed. I ended-up talking her into starting me off with a BBBJ. She had sat on the day bed right infront of the magic stick and before she could put on the rubber I asked her to start me off without the rubber "show me some love." It disgusts me that I even used that word in that setting but it worked. My leaky faucet turned her off so she insisted that I put on the rubber. I finished doggy, and then headed back home.

Another long Tuesday night mostly devoid of any top notch talent. Ran into this BSW standing at the end of the block of a strip club while it was letting out. She was on the corner dressed in a tight pink dress with a single rollable piece of luggage, tight body 20's. I looped around her and asked if she was dating. She replied with "Head shots are $65". I told her that I was interested but I don't go that high. I said that if I had met her in the club then it would have been a possiblity but since I'm picking her up out on the street then she'd have to come down.

She said that "$40 isn't going to get her to where she needs to be." I said that I'll do $40 and will be quick about it. She said "alright, do you have a cell phone?" I had told her no, she said "well let me use this payphone to make a call real quick." That didn't sit well with me for some reason especially since I already asked her if she had a pimp and she said no. I had asked how frequently she dances at the club and she said that "she doesn't dance". So the whole rollable luggage was just a front.

This phone call of hers became a condition upon entering my vehicle. I no longer believed her to be worth it, because this could have been some elaborate scheme to obtain much more than just $40. So I pulled off.

Later on ran into a BSW by the name of Heavan 18-21yrs old. She wanted $50 for a CBJ and I was offering $30, she then wanted $40. I didn't want to do it so she walked off. But seeing her jean skirt ride up on top of her asscheeks as she walked away back to her obese co-worker I decided to call her back. She didn't immediately come back. When she did come back she said that her friend would do it. I said "What?!" I had wanted to smack that can of beer and CD player out of her hands. I said that her friend looks like NOTHING. There was a 0% chance that I'd date her. She said that her friend's head game was tight, she said that "she just got through eating my pu$$y earlier." I still was not sold so I pulled off.

Ended up getting a CBJ by a walking travesty. This BSW has the genes to be in the top 5% of beautiful people but drugs have ravaged the area of her mouth. She's mixed with Creole and Native American, and actually looks like it. She told me that she was 38 but her body was early 20ish without any fat on her torso or stretch marks on her phat ass. High cheek bones, nice perfectly round smooth phat booty in tight little shorts with the legs of an athlete (absolutely no cellulite). She even played that up by wearing some running shoes. She had a small perky chest and really has the body of a sprinter.

She told me that she was a dancer up until three years ago. Said that she use to dance at 61st and Passyunk and in a club in Delaware where they would give head not in a VIP room, but on the floor at your table. I went browsing for some info on this spot and have turned up nothing so far.

I usually am disgusted by the sight, and the thought of dating addicts but she was such that she was going to be my second exception to date (see my 6-03-05 post). She ran me through the whole LE check thing and hopped in without ever disgussing a rate with me.

I ended up giving her $20 before we started but she had already handed me the rubber before I pulled out any money (she does offer BBBJTCIM at no additional cost). I'm thinking that this could have been one of those $5 deals which is ashame considering what I know she looked like before her mouth went down hill. She also didn't have the personality of an addict with the weird gesticulations and convoluted conversation. Senior Members and authentic long time contributing mongers of 20+ posts contact me for her locale.

I heard about a legal place non/amp that quinches a mongers thirst. I made a visit and It indeed has girls that give $40 and $80 massages. There was a white woman mid 30's, Dominican woman mid 30's, and a black woman early 20's. Senior Members and authentic long time contributing mongers of 20+ posts contact me for location.

Lets Date- call me crazy, but I don't see any good information in your posts? Are you dreaming this stuff? Are there a bunch of clouds and ponies around these girls when you are "talking" to them?

Cruised the K this morning and was in shock at the amount and quality of action to be found. There were quite a few WSW's out along the Ave. from Ruan st. down to the Somerset area. For a change the majority of SW's on the K weren't wacked out addicts while I was cruising.

I spotted a HSW BSW duo walking in the K/Somerset area. I looped around the block and turned down the side street as they did. Then I made another right onto a smaller street to get out of LE's line of sight because there was one parked up the same street that I had turned onto. It looked like the officer might have been getting a hand job to me. The BSW that he was talking to was bent over with both of her entire arms going through the driver side window.

Anyway I began talking to this duo both of them looked to be about 18 which isn't necessarily a good thing considering the type of prison term involved if they weren't. I asked them if they were "out here dating." They responded with " That isn't the only thing we could be out here doing." I said "Well if the two of you aren't dating are you looking to hang out?" They had both said yeah. So I said that there is alot of LE out right now let me touch your chest to reassure myself. As I reached for her breast she backed away and said "the police are coming." I looked in my rear view mirror and a Crown Vic was fast approaching. He followed me for several blocks until I was completely out of the area. Last night/this morning was the time to be out mongering the K. The LE presence on the K remains hobby prohibitive.

Just completed another sucessful run, however it wasn't with anything as close in beauty to what I have been hooking up with at the clubs.

Ran into a WSW BSW team on a new hoe stroll that I cruised upon. To date I have seen three WSW's on that stroll along with a host of BSW's. Those chicks over there work for dirt cheap and are aggressive due to the lack of police attention to mongering. For example a few days ago I was over there behind a car at a red light and this chunky WSW just walked up to the car in front of me and eventually asked "So do you have $20?" I guess the guy said sure and they were off.

When I pulled up to the WSW BSW team tonight the WSW approached my vehicle and attempted to open my door and hop in before we discussed a price. She would be a popular one if she ever made it over to the K. I going to date her, but she started physically getting nervous and started moving in a "druggy" sort of way and that turned me off.

A little while later I ran into a a big toothless BSW. I don't know what the hell was going on inside the little head. But he said that he wanted this one, so I complied. She hopped in and we had a little chat and $10 for a CBJ was agreed upon. We ended up parking in a residential area to handle business, and I was a little concerned. She said "Don't worry it won't take long." Fellow mongers she was not exaggerating. I believe that I blew my load in under a minute. Granted that whenever I'm P4Ping I could care less about longevity. She obviously has MASTERED the BJ and is self assured about her "talent". The fact that she was missing four of her upper front teeth aided in the sensation kind of like the "school teacher" off of hookers at the point.

As we were leaving I witnessed something disturbing, sad, as well as dangerous. This chick had crossed the street in front of us and the BSW said "Look at that lil girl." I thought that it was just her choice of words because what I seen in front of me was a woman that looked as though she was street walking and might be dabbling in using drugs as well. The BSW went on to tell me that the chick was 15 years old and was out on the street because of her boyfriend. The BSW said that she has attempted to aide her but to no avail. Seeing that 15yr. old has me reconsidering mongering the streets. The dark of the night and the wear that the street puts on a person would make it impossible to tell that she wasn't of the age of consent. Like I said before, I could never see doing that type of time in prison. Hopefully I'll just be posting of club experiences in the future.

I have so many people on my ignore list now that this board is beginning to get slow. The hoes are out there mongers post-up.

This is a Y group escort that along with a handful of friends does outcall/incall and throws a bunch of swinger, gangbang, bukake parties. Her rate is $125 for 30min. FS. The parties that they throw range in price from about $50 to $65 and it is a smorgusboard. The creepy part is that there is a guy that runs the show and he posts ALL of the messages, be it under his user name or under the group of chicks. The writting style is VERY distinct so it is very obvious that it is him posing as the group of chicks as well as himself. But in the end the party/escort service is the real deal.

I have personally met all of the following providers. If you arrange a session with them through interpersonal contact then the prices range from $30-$100 depending on act performed as well as there opinion of you. They also offer services online but it will cost $80-$150. Unlike when making other purchases mongering is more expensive online than it is off of the internet.

I remember a couple of those girls Lets Date you are the man. Hey West how is the map coming?

[QUOTE=Lets Date]I have personally met all of the following providers. If you arrange a session with them through interpersonal contact then the prices range from $30-$100 depending on act performed as well as there opinion of you. They also offer services online but it will cost $80-$150. Unlike when making other purchases mongering is more expensive online than it is off of the internet.[/QUOTE]Hey bro,

I'd like to see them and get your rates.

Can you PM me with some info?

Thanks

I haven't mongered succesfully since Friday. Here is how my last few days have gone.

Friday 7/29: Hit a UG spot much earlier than what I am accustomed to going. This type of mongering is like shooting fish in a barrel. I instantly got a CBJ. She ultimately sucked the "Mr Hyde" out of this monger so I was reduced to Dr. Jakel for the rest of the day. Friday was an early success so I didn't waste much time doing recon out on the street (even though I wrote that I might never cruise again). I didn't see neither the Puerto Rican nor the Italian/PR SW's that I posted about. A couple weeks ago I noticed that the Italian/PR SW now has a pimp (she was a free agent the times that I dated her). He has her dressing totally different. She usually wore tight jeans and sneakers but now she's walking the stroll less casually dressed (heels and pants). I didn't see anything but druggy trash on my favorite stroll.

Saturday: I decided to do something different. I lost interest in shooting fish in a barrel and wasting gas money cruising the same strolls unsuccesfully/ simply settling for less (I still don't know what I was thinking about with "Big Toothless"). So I decided to see what the streets of Camden, NJ have to offer a monger. Before leaving I RTFF but little info was there so I used Google Earth to learn the main streets before I went off hunting. See Camden thread for details.

Used the Betsy Ross bridge to cross back over to Philly. While traveling up Allegheny Ave. I turned onto Kensington Ave. to see what The talent was like. There was a handfull of non drug addict SW's, but they simply were not attractive (too old, too fat, too unkept, too etc.). So I left that stroll. I went looking for one of the HSW's but they weren't out again. That made it two nights in a row...

Sunday: I didn't do anything but waste gas. There was some action up at Frankford Ave. and Pratt sts.. She looked to be worth a stop. She had what was probably her pimp watching her as she walked down the middle of Frankford Ave. giving mongers the eye.

Monday: Decided to hit a SC. As I approached the entrance to the club I was spotted by this stripper that I met there and dated several times for only $50 incall. She would give me BBBJ's for $50 but soon would grow tired of sucking so she'd just let me have at her box. She was sitting on top of a car with a handfull of guys and yelled out "Hey whassup, get over here." She knows very well that I don't come looking for lap dances. I looked over there, smirked, then shook my head in disbelief. She actually wanted me to come to her...

Greeted the doorman. Asked him if he had alot of girls on such a slow night. He said that that he had about 10 and some more would be on the way. He said "There's only two other customers here so when the girls see you they are going to treat you like Puffy." I couldn't help but to think that he was being facisious. Well, I can't say that the man was lying. This unattractive chick came right up to me and asked if I was dancing, I said no. She asked if I was tipping, I also said no. She took rejection in an unsual manner, she decided not to leave my side. Luckily one stripper was bold enough to approach me.

She had a beautiful body, but her breath smelled of nicotine. While facing me and massaging my penis, she asked "Do you want a lapdance?" I said "No but I'll tip you." She turned around and started shaking her booty. I gave her box a slight little finger action until she sat on my lap. That's when she leaned back and said "Lets F#ck." I asked "How much?" she replied "Hmmmmmm, depends on what you want? The works is $125." I said "I'll give you $80." She said "$100" I said "I won't pay more than $80 being that I had to pay to get in here." She replied with "Okay I'll f^ck you for $80 but it has to be right here." I said "What!" She said that noone would notice. The whole time that rejected chick was sitting right next to us. The big head took over the thinking for the little one this time. Her and another dancer that I "dated" ended up leaving with two other guys. After I left a couple hours later she was outside and asked "Are you ready?" I shudder at the thought of knowing positively that I'll be receiving sloppy seconds. I told her that I'd be alright.

I left and cruised, cruised, cruised, cruised, cruised, and cruised some more. Nothing. No hot SW's to be found.

Tuesday: Headed to the MP in this post [url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=372534#post372534[/url]
The two women on duty didn't float my boat so I left. I am going to attach a picture of a mid 30ish white woman that works there and escorts.

Went to a SC. The VIP room was closed and the dancers weren't allowed to give lap dances out on the floor. Customers are honestly expected to JUST tip the dancers while they dance on stage. This club was not created with mongers like Lets Date in mind. The one stripper that I had conversated with was willing to give me FS for $85 and a BJ for $50. In her own words she'll take "no more, NO LESS". She'd be an incredible SW but I like for my strippers to look between 18-25 she was just an okay looking dancer, 30ish.

I left this place and cruised for a little bit. Nothing of interest so I decided to go to a UG club. I parked my vehicle and approached the entrance. I Heard music so it confirmed that Tuesday's have some action. Before I could knock I got overwhelmed by the feeling of having to take a dump. "Milk does a body good" The person that came up with that slogan should be tortured. I hopped right back in my vehicle and headed back to my residence. The whole time I felt like the role that John Witherspoon (Pops) played in the movie Friday when he was rushing home to take a sh^t.

Hit my favorite stroll and the ladies were out in full force tonight. That Italian/HSW was out with a friend. I had asked her if she had a pimp and she initially denied it. A few short seconds later she actually fessed-up to it. She said that she made that choice "because some sh^t had went down." So she opted to try it out.

How she describes having a pimp was nothing like what is normally portrayed in the entertainment industry. Yes the pimp collects ALL of the money from his hoes, but he is more of a "money manager" that is COMPLETELY responsible for taking care of all of there wants and needs. She explained to me that she only made $200 the previous night, that morning her pimp had reminded her that she needed a radio for her room. He took her shopping and she picked out a $400 radio. She views having a pimp as being able to acquire and experience much nicer things than what she would normally be capable of doing individually, because the money is pooled together. Being that the money is pooled together, a self policing is created amongst a pimps hoes that makes low productivity a constant concern. The hoes want to be the top earner for "Daddy" so they tend to want to get back out on the track faster and stay longer. Kind of like being a salesmen...

Anyway I am getting her for dirt cheap now. We agree to $60 for 2 pops. The last time I wanted to do this with her I didn't have the desire after getting the CBJ. I told her that this time around I was going to change how I was going to eat my meal. The last time I had gotten my fill off of the french fries,so I didn't want the hamburger. This time I was going to eat the hamburger first then the fries or maybe just get another burger and skip the fries altogether. She said "So you're trying to say that you want to f^ck first." Precisely...

I didn't feel like giving her the whole $60 because there was still a chance that I wouldn't care for another pop so she said "okay well give me $30 then the other..." She paused for a second, calculating silently thinking that $30 is too cheap for FS, I interjected saying that I'd give her $40 then the rest later if I still felt like it.

Doggy, then reverse cowgirl, I couldn't finish because her box was much too tight. I ended up jerking off with her lending a hand. One pop is all I'll ever have in me for a provider, so I dropped her off where I found her.