2005 Archived Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=Tasha]Haven't been to town for awhile. Coming back soon. Is the Atomic open?[/QUOTE]Tasha,

Sort of open, but not alive.

On 10-07-03 I made a somewhat long and detailed post about the semi-demise of the Atomic. You may find it useful, but not cheerful, as the situation remains unfortunately unchanged since that post. You can find it under "2000-2004 General Reports" and it is post #714 there. Or you can just click on my name to display other reports by Wastrel and you will find it within the first two pages of my posts. I think it might have been about my third post on this forum.

I was quite (strangely) fond of the place, but there's not much point in going there now. Here's a few very brief excerpts from what I reported in October of 2003: "...But a few weeks ago it was forced to shut down for a while for the first time in the history of Las Vegas following a police raid. It is now reopened for limited hours, closing at 10pm. CLOSING AT TEN! What in the hell is Vegas coming to?...What the Atomic has come to is that about six months ago the crusty old ex-navy night bartender who ruled the place with an in your face take no bullshit attitude, and who had the respect of the street characters who scuffle around downtown, retired and relocated to a hot tub full of nubile young chicas in Brazil...At four am the local working girls used to drop in for a few stiff drinks to relax after a hard night of loitering on nearby streetcorners...But after the bartender who knew the street so well left, it gradually degenerated...[into] the kind of [drug gang] scene that would scare the hell out of tourists from Santa Monica or Scottsdale driving by on their way to the downtown casinos up the street, so finally a few weeks ago Metro Police Dept. raided the place and hauled more than a dozen people to jail. They took pity on the kindly old gentleman who owns the place and let him stay in business, but on a short leash..."

My understanding is that old Joe, the owner, is basically land banking the property, just staying in business without any real cash flow, guarding the cocktail olives to make sure nobody takes one without paying, to hold on to it on the speculation that he might make a killing when downtown redevelopment washes down Fremont. That's how he got rich in the first place, making his nut on a piece of "worthless desert scrub" near a highway many years ago that is now part of the Las Vegas Strip.

Regards,

Wastrel

P.S. Oh yes, it is now open later than ten on weekends. Till the ripe old hour of eleven. Not that you'd really be able to tell much of a difference between open and closed there now.

What kind of reaction should I anticipate if I meet someone and the south end or one of the higher-end casinos, suggest that she accompany me to my hotel via the parking garage or valet parking, then take her to my off-strip room, which is usually someplace like one of the Station properties, Terribles, Sams Town, or maybe Tuscany or San Remo? Is she likely to accept that as part of the deal? or expect extra compensation? Or?

Yup - Wastrel's post was the one I remembered. Thanks for posting the info, Wastrel.

Thanks Wastrel. Sorry to hear about the Atomic. I liked that joint too. Any replacement suggestions?

[QUOTE=indydave]What kind of reaction should I anticipate if I meet someone and the south end or one of the higher-end casinos, suggest that she accompany me to my hotel via the parking garage or valet parking, then take her to my off-strip room, which is usually someplace like one of the Station properties, Terribles, Sams Town, or maybe Tuscany or San Remo? Is she likely to accept that as part of the deal? or expect extra compensation? Or?[/QUOTE]

Closest I've come to that scenario was a gal going from one of the Boulder Hiway bars [4 Aces area] to Fiesta Henderson, about a 5 mile/15 minute drive. She was fine with it, better than the front seat. Guess my only suggestion would be to be up front about it, chicks don't like surprises any more than we do!

[QUOTE=Tasha]...Any replacement suggestions?[/QUOTE]I've been looking and hoping for one for well over a year now. Seems like they must have gone somewhere, right? Or did all the denizens of that establishment run right over to the Jesus is the Answer Church down the street and get saved?

I saw mention of the Four Aces, but couldn't find a thread. Is that the kind a place an out-of-towner should stay out of? think I read pretty interesting activities around noon or happy hour? Anybody know the story?

[QUOTE=indydave]I saw mention of the Four Aces, but couldn't find a thread. Is that the kind a place an out-of-towner should stay out of? think I read pretty interesting activities around noon or happy hour? Anybody know the story?[/QUOTE]Depends on which Four Aces. Probably won't shock you to learn there's more than one watering hole by that name in Vegas. I know of two that have been mentioned here, one on Boulder Hwy. and another on Craig Road near Nellis AFB.

I'm guessing that you're thinking of the one on Boulder. A visitor in town would have no problem going in there, except for the danger that you might waste some gas and get bored if you don't find anything going on. I’m not there often, and when I go in at night occasionally there is usually nothing there, but once in a great while there have been a few trailer park tweaker types who are available. I've never been there in the middle of the day. It is just a neighborhood tavern type place that happens to be near some cheap apartments with some trailer parks and rent by the week type places and such in the area. There is a very similar place nearby called the Stadium Saloon that has a laundromat attached, and it has been referred to as "The Speed Queen" by another poster in the past.

The other Four Aces up at the far north end of town is a lot more lively, but most tourists would feel very nervous about going inside in my opinion. When I was up that way last time several days ago paramedics were pulling into the parking lot with a bunch of young men in baggy pants with their hands in their pockets standing around looking at the sky. I suspect that somebody had an unfortunate accident involving a knife or something and nobody saw nuthin‘. About every third time I go by there is some police activity in the parking lot.

[QUOTE=indydave]I saw mention of the Four Aces, but couldn't find a thread. Is that the kind a place an out-of-towner should stay out of? think I read pretty interesting activities around noon or happy hour? Anybody know the story?[/QUOTE]That all depends -- do you watch CSI?

[QUOTE=Wastrel]Depends on which Four Aces. Probably won't shock you to learn there's more than one watering hole by that name in Vegas. I know of two that have been mentioned here, one on Boulder Hwy. and another on Craig Road near Nellis AFB.

I'm guessing that you're thinking of the one on Boulder. [/QUOTE]

Yep, that's the one i was thinking of. Wastrel, as always, is spot on with his characterization. I've personally had totally zero luck in there, but have scored twice in the parking lot of the Stadium! Totally bizarre. Just timing. Last time i was in that neighborhood i had a fun couple of beers in the Centerfolds tittie bar. I enjoyed that there was no cover, beers were like 3.75, not bad, they were playing old rock that brought back fond memories [old Zepplin], at a volume that you could easily talk thru without shouting, and that the girls were pretty friendly. I had one half talked into coming back to my room when some big meathead just butted in.

Thanks, guys,

I'm glad I found this forum.

No, I don't watch CSI, but from Wastrel's assessment, I'm not going to NLV. LOL. I don't need the attention of the police or the paramedics, the latter being the most likely by far.

Having read the LV news via MyMSN.com on a daily basis, I have developed a reluctance to go to the titty or nudie bars, partly because of those continuing stories of extortion and near-fatal beatings inflicted by the "security" people, apparently for the pure pleasure of occasionally maiming a tourist. So, I consider all the big-name nudies completely off limits. No point of putting my life at risk to look at a naked kitty. But, Deja Vu establilshments used to be my favorite. Lived next door to a manager in Louisville area and boy, the traffic in and out of her place, could just sit out front and watch, and the one in Ypsilanti, MI is wonderful. All those sweet little college cuties. Check it out if you happen to be in the Detroit or Ann Arbor area.

I may cautiously check out the Centerfold, however, on next hobbying trip in June.

[QUOTE=Cienega32]...used to be a great monger spot back in the day![/QUOTE]Sometimes a place is also known for the company it does not keep. My personal favorite Atomic Liquors anecdote was about the Hollywood twit Sharon Stone waltzing in and dismissively barking orders for some frou-frou drink, chop-chop c'mon over there make it snappy, and getting unceremoniously thrown out on her spoiled little ass on Fremont when she made an insulting remark about the place and the way her drink was prepared. I wasn't there at the time, but I believe the story is true, and those who remember the night bartender "Jimmy" will have no trouble picturing the scene. Her picture is NOT on the wall next to Sinatra. So if you are less welcome than the average Fremont hooker, whatever shall we call you honey?

W

[QUOTE=indydave]...I may cautiously check out the Centerfold, however, on next hobbying trip in June...[/QUOTE]I think "The Library" is another locals type strip joint which is probably OK. It is more upscale and more expensive than the Centerfold, but not so much as the big tourist places in the shadow of the Strip resorts. It is farther west on Boulder/Fremont. Can't remember the cross streets offhand. I once had a very satisfying evening with a young woman who I found crying in the parking lot of that place. Turns out she'd just been suspended from her "dancing" job for smoking pot in the dressing room, and her weekly rent was due. Always happy to help out a lady in distress.

Off subject, but reminds me of an old story.

Sid great philospher asked a lady to sleep with him from 5000 whatever. Okay, she said. Okay, how about 5 whatevers. What do you think I am, she asked rather indignantly, to which he replied, we've already established that, ma'am, now we're just negotiating the price.

One might think the only difference between a Hollywood 'star' and an LV street-corner entrpreneur is the asking price?

[QUOTE=Wastrel]Sometimes a place is also known for the company it does not keep. My personal favorite Atomic Liquors anecdote was about the Hollywood twit Sharon Stone waltzing in and dismissively barking orders for some frou-frou drink, chop-chop c'mon over there make it snappy, and getting unceremoniously thrown out on her spoiled little ass on Fremont when she made an insulting remark about the place and the way her drink was prepared. I wasn't there at the time, but I believe the story is true, and those who remember the night bartender "Jimmy" will have no trouble picturing the scene. Her picture is NOT on the wall next to Sinatra. So if you are less welcome than the average Fremont hooker, whatever shall we call you honey?

W[/QUOTE]Now THAT is a great story! Wish I could've seen that event! I guess it must've been while filming Casino? (Crime Story is on DVD now, BTW. Great show. The Atomic was their "home base")