Another less expensive option?
There's an application (for both android and Apple) called tinder that a close friend of mine has had success with. 30,000 foot view of it is quite simple:
Everyone posts a picture and you go through pictures of women and swipesone way if you would find them attractive and the other way if you don't. If both you and the woman find each other attractive you can start talking to one another and set up a time and a place (my friend has met people and just hooked up with them without a donation).
Obviously if you don't want your picture out there this isn't a great option, but it's still an option.
Escorts are the best optiion in general
Most SBs think they have gold lined psy and want a fortune to play Guys generally I have met or talked with are looking for play time not a steady woman. Ladies always have the choice as an escort to go LTR play or hourly / half but many ladies never take in the shopping options, dinner etc and women usually want "extras" with the $ options. SBs are usually nothing more than escorts with extras. Best bargains so far on the board are the 2 and three hundred overnights dinner, maybe some shopping then home for some serious no holds barred play after equipment checks. Most men are looking for high quality ladies / escorts who love it all. Men say they aren't but backchannel they are and so are ladies. It is amazing how many high end ladies on USASG are looking for natural play and have high quality reps. Most men love the feel of a woman on their business and most women love to ride their business and feel the results Just my experience. I love curling up with a woman at night doing her in many positions feeling her riding my business then spooning with her. Sometimes feeling her hands and mouth early morning waking me up for a return to bliss before the end of the overnight and depositing some serious baby batter in her to have us both leave with memories and hopefully return engagements. Most men are NOT looking for a SO or steady companion but a woman who knows how to pleasure a man COMPLETELY and wants the same from him as often as he can get it up and release. SBs are fine for men with dollars, lots of them. Me I will take a HOT HORNEY SP any day with an excellent reputation and see what we can work out. JMO FWIW. PT.
Ever since SA became popular.....
[QUOTE=TriStateTori;2092891]I think some of those women had pumped their pretty little heads with ideas from shows like Millionaire Matchmaker, hehe.[/QUOTE]I have used SA for a very very long time, and have had some good longer term result until about a year ago when it really got popular...and most who came onboard had the Golden Pussy Syndrome. In one meet and greet I was told "let's go tot the casino and bring $15,000 to pay so she could double the $so I did bring $15,000 in monopoly $.
One thing which has given some result, is just patiently wait a few months and then you with some you see their demands drop.
Ah well it is boating season, so crusing the river to the south.
The evolution of Seeking Arrangement
I like the "Golden Pussy Syndrome" (GPS).
The popularity of SA has indeed brought some girls who would never even consider escorting, and have some very inflated expectations.
But here is how it works to your advantage, gentlemen:
- The vast majority of the GPS girls will simply get frustrated and drop out. (Now tell me: How many guys in Cincinnati are going to provide anyone with lavish allowances?
- But, a certain percentage of those women (who again, were unlikely to try outright escorting) will agree to hook up for about what a standard outcall would cost here.
- Overall, SA increases the "supply" quotient of the hobby marketplace, and that works to your advantage.
- Also, I have noticed some USAG providers on SA (I won't name names). They are weakening the case of the GPS girls, by providing more straightforward services. When escorts compete with sugar babies, sugar daddies win.
- To succeed on SA, you must have some game going on. I'm a very average looking, middle aged man, but I don't come off like a pervert, and I have good people skills. I am usually able to get college girls off that site for $200. And I also get turned down a lot; that goes with the territory.
- The bad part is that it does take some work. SA isn't an option when you want company NOW, already. It functions a lot like Match or EHarmony, except that you can proposition the women, and 20 year old women will (not infrequently) respond to 45 year old men.
- Finally: Don't worry about the GPS girls. When they ask for something outrageous, just say, "no thanks" and move on. It's a numbers game at the end of the day.
Sorry for the lack of clarification but it would be
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2093849]You mean $$ to $ plus shopping, dinner etc? They better be lifetime memory dates for those prices. Or $$ to $ total for everything you spend on?[/QUOTE]The later of course WE have what they want and whether it is with a SB or escort provider or masseuse the bottom line is we set out limits they set theres and it then becomes a matter of meeting our limits based on our needs and matching it with a ladies. There are more than enough ladies to go around.
SBs with big dreams and unrealistic expectations
I'm going to begin this SB post by briefly praising escorts.
While some escorts are easier to contact and schedule with than others, almost all of the ladies on USAG and similar sites have a business-like attitude: They are realistic about what you want, and they specify the price you will need to pay in order to get it.
A handful of escorts have "disqualifiers" about whom they will and won't see. Discreet Desires recently featured a woman who would only see guys 45 and under. (She is no longer on the DD site, BTW.) But most escorts will see any hobbyist who is polite, hygienic, and shows no signs of mental instability.
Many sugar babies are different. A large number of SBs join Seeking Arrangements with the idea that they are going to meet George Clooney or Johnny Depp. Last winter I interacted (unsuccessfully) on Seeking Arrangements with a 19-year-old Miami University student who came from a wealthy family. (She used a close variant of her real name and I found her on Facebook.) It soon became obvious that she really didn't have any financial needs; she was on Seeking Arrangements in order to find a slightly older fantasy boyfriend: a 20-something millionaire who would whisk her away for weekends in Paris, or something like that.
Seeking Arrangements goes out of its way to market itself as a high-end *dating* site, even though most of the men on the site are, in fact, hobbyists. The result is that many sugar babies come on board with unrealistic expectations, and drop out after a few weeks.
Now, let me reiterate (see my previous posts): Seeking Arrangements is also a place where you can meet great UTR women, who are willing to part-time escort, but who don't want to leap into the USAG world with both feet. You can usually tell the serious UTR women from the fantasy boyfriend seekers by reading the profiles.
The problem, for some of you, will be that this does take time and effort. Over the span of a single 1-month Seeking Arrangements membership, I've gotten 6 or 7 solid UTR contacts, and I've also come up completely empty-handed.
I usually bounce back and forth between here and Seeking Arrangements. At present, I think the selection here is pretty good: lots of fit, younger women whose company can be had at reasonable prices. For me there is a tipping point, when the selection / price / quality combination in the escort world becomes undesirable, and at that point I go back to Seeking Arrangements.
In other words, I have found that the best strategy is to be *both* a sugar daddy and a hobbyist, depending on who is available and willing in each venue.
