Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Willy314;5355613]I've visited Panacea a few times. Had a good time with Melissa and Annie, separately. Tipped slightly more than the door fee both times.

I've drawn Allison twice, a nice massage. But when it was time to flip, the upsell started. Expected the tio to match the door fee to start. Then it was 20 more for each item of clothing that came off. First time I tipped 160 to feel her wet spot. She wouldn't go any further. Second rime, I just went with matching the door fee. She did let me touch her boobs that time.

That was the last time I stopped there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info and I'll know not to ever pick Allison. Most of the girls there will lose their clothes at the beginning without even mentioning a tip. Those are the ones that get lots of happy repeat customers and end up making the big bucks!

I used to see Linda a lot when she worked at Pacific on 44th st. Has anyone seen her lately? Mm686.

Beautiful woman, excellent service, the 36th St. Location has a interesting vibe. It was my second appointment with Brit, her body is stunning. She is in great shape and a pleasure to look at. She got comfortable after the flip and I roamed around and around. I left satisfied and dazed. She is literally in the beginning stages up remodeling / relocating so be patient. I'm new to the hobby (7 months) and I have visited spas in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana. I believe the bodyworksbyus is a gem compared to other places I have visited. Be respectful and enjoy.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;5355730]I used to see Linda a lot when she worked at Pacific on 44th st. Has anyone seen her lately? Mm686.[/QUOTE]
Last I heard she still does appts. As well there.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;5355730]I used to see Linda a lot when she worked at Pacific on 44th st. Has anyone seen her lately? Mm686.[/QUOTE]Linda gives one of the better massages you are going to get. She is enjoyable to talk with and she will assure that you are "Happy". Personally, I will continue to see her when I am looking for a good massage.

Had my second visit with Madison from bodywork and was better than the first. Will definitely see again.

[QUOTE=Willy314;5355613]I've visited Panacea a few times. Had a good time with Melissa and Annie, separately. Tipped slightly more than the door fee both times.

I've drawn Allison twice, a nice massage. But when it was time to flip, the upsell started. Expected the tio to match the door fee to start. Then it was 20 more for each item of clothing that came off. First time I tipped 160 to feel her wet spot. She wouldn't go any further. Second rime, I just went with matching the door fee. She did let me touch her boobs that time.

That was the last time I stopped there.[/QUOTE]Helpful report. Thank you! I will avoid her too.

Saw on KC ad that they had a new girl named Khloe, scheduled an appointment through KC. Khloe is new to this but she takes direction well, no pics of her but she is short with long hair and has a little booty. She is always down for critique on how she can do better or make you feel better. Overall the appointment was enjoyable and I would repeat if our schedule match. PM if you want any details.

Due to time constraints I've been mostly out of the MP scene the past 2 years save a few visits to Panacea, Wonder and Asian Ivy.

Serenity and I believe Bodyworks? Charge like 180 an hour or so?
So I can go to Panacea and see one of numerous very attractive girls for 60 door and leave a matching tip for a 120 total for nude HJ. Why exactly would I pay 180 door instead? Is tip included? Does the menu include BBBJ or FS INCLUDED in that 180?
I understand why these details may not be posted here but could anyone PM me answers please?
I have some upcoming availability to visit an MP more often now and want to expand my go to list some. But not just to overpay for nothing more.

Thank you for any insight.

[QUOTE=Monger01;5357851]Due to time constraints I've been mostly out of the MP scene the past 2 years save a few visits to Panacea, Wonder and Asian Ivy.

Serenity and I believe Bodyworks? Charge like 180 an hour or so?
So I can go to Panacea and see one of numerous very attractive girls for 60 door and leave a matching tip for a 120 total for nude HJ. Why exactly would I pay 180 door instead? Is tip included? Does the menu include BBBJ or FS INCLUDED in that 180?
I understand why these details may not be posted here but could anyone PM me answers please?
I have some upcoming availability to visit an MP more often now and want to expand my go to list some. But not just to overpay for nothing more.

Thank you for any insight.[/QUOTE]Here's my take:

Serenity. You can get more than a HJ and bodyslide. But you will pay more than $180 for it! They have in the past "specialized" in fetish stuff so if you like a finger in your butt or to be spanked you can get your jollies there, just expect to pay $240 and up.

Bodyworks - $180 is the cost including tip for an hour. They will be a little more interactive than the usual rub 'and tug place like Panacea, mutual groping allowed and they will rub their entire nude body all over you. While I think the $180 for an hour is steep even with the enhanced service (comparing to Panacea for instance at $120 for the hour but less interactive), I think the half hour at $110 is the way to go here. Who goes for the massage anyway?

Panacea - $60 in and $60 tip is very satisfying hour. More can be had here for more money, but you may be looking at $150 or so for some of the ladies who will oil up and slide their body on you. I'm not familiar with BF or FS here.

Hope this helps. If others feel this is inaccurate please feel free to chime in! True information is what this board should be about, less promotions and more information should be the game here IMO.

[QUOTE=Willy314;5355613]I've visited Panacea a few times. Had a good time with Melissa and Annie, separately. Tipped slightly more than the door fee both times.

I've drawn Allison twice, a nice massage. But when it was time to flip, the upsell started. Expected the tio to match the door fee to start. Then it was 20 more for each item of clothing that came off. First time I tipped 160 to feel her wet spot. She wouldn't go any further. Second rime, I just went with matching the door fee. She did let me touch her boobs that time.

That was the last time I stopped there.[/QUOTE]I've written a report about Alison complaining of the same thing. Wolverines somehow heard from her and that she wanted to make it right. She PMd me and I responded back but haven't heard since.

I once enjoyed Panacea, have had great experiences with Natalie. But my last visit there was meh at best and in the end it's still a parlor and gets a lot of foot traffic so my time and money will go elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Monger01;5357851]Due to time constraints I've been mostly out of the MP scene the past 2 years save a few visits to Panacea, Wonder and Asian Ivy.

Serenity and I believe Bodyworks? Charge like 180 an hour or so?
So I can go to Panacea and see one of numerous very attractive girls for 60 door and leave a matching tip for a 120 total for nude HJ. Why exactly would I pay 180 door instead? Is tip included? Does the menu include BBBJ or FS INCLUDED in that 180?
I understand why these details may not be posted here but could anyone PM me answers please?
I have some upcoming availability to visit an MP more often now and want to expand my go to list some. But not just to overpay for nothing more.

Thank you for any insight.[/QUOTE]Can't comment on Serenity. I hope you can find some unbiased opinion there but I've given up on that place long ago. The glowing reviews you read lack detail, content, and donation amounts typically. Great, you had an awesome time and shared zero info that provides mongers for any reason to visit.

Body works is my go to, so I'll try to be unbiased and of course YMMV. The prices are set, no up sell. It's a legit place to go and most of the ladies will offer lap dancing in addition to a normal massage. The encounters I have had have been more sensual than other places but take privacy and discretion seriously. I appreciate the privacy aspect. Read the reviews and find a negative one. I don't know if any exist.

But you're right, panacea is cheaper potentially, provided you can snag someone who isn't up selling to get nude. I've had good times there and have good reasons to not go there in the future. To me the extra $60 for an hour or $30 for a hhr if you're going to match the door fee is worth it. Others may feel different and are entitled to their opinions too.

My suggestion would be to try it and report back with an honest review. We need more of those these days LOL.

[QUOTE=Monger01;5357851]Due to time constraints I've been mostly out of the MP scene the past 2 years save a few visits to Panacea, Wonder and Asian Ivy.

Serenity and I believe Bodyworks? Charge like 180 an hour or so?
So I can go to Panacea and see one of numerous very attractive girls for 60 door and leave a matching tip for a 120 total for nude HJ. Why exactly would I pay 180 door instead? Is tip included? Does the menu include BBBJ or FS INCLUDED in that 180?
I understand why these details may not be posted here but could anyone PM me answers please?
I have some upcoming availability to visit an MP more often now and want to expand my go to list some. But not just to overpay for nothing more.

Thank you for any insight.[/QUOTE]WaltK, Moonglow913 care to "enlighten" him / us again? I was not going to respond to your latest comments regarding how money can buy anything. Maybe you can tell everyone where you've flashed your "real money" 5 k at a time to get what you really want? Not everyone on this forum is on the same financial playing field as you. Sounds like you both are well off. Congratulations. People have other events in their life where they can't afford to fling around that kind of cash to see who's going to supply the condom. Maybe when I'm in my fifties I can be in your club. To be completely honest I'm glad some of these ladies don't do full service for the same exact reason I am not in the mood to bring an std home to the wife. This was actually what one of the providers said. She said, "isn't it a relief for you guys to know that we don't have sex with everyone who asks for it?" To that I say a profound thank you and hell yes. Condoms fail. For this reason I'll never be on the Escorts or Streetwalkers forums. I don't go to Bodyworks as often as I want due to the fun things in life like child support etc. But when I do go, I am always respectful and am far from the guy "spending his stimulus money". Maybe someday I'll be in your elite club of guys with "real money". Believe it or not, there are some ladies out there who actually can see the worth of someone other than what they can monetarily "flash / offer".

[QUOTE=Monger01;5357851]Due to time constraints I've been mostly out of the MP scene the past 2 years save a few visits to Panacea, Wonder and Asian Ivy.

Serenity and I believe Bodyworks? Charge like 180 an hour or so?
So I can go to Panacea and see one of numerous very attractive girls for 60 door and leave a matching tip for a 120 total for nude HJ. Why exactly would I pay 180 door instead? Is tip included? Does the menu include BBBJ or FS INCLUDED in that 180?
I understand why these details may not be posted here but could anyone PM me answers please?
I have some upcoming availability to visit an MP more often now and want to expand my go to list some. But not just to overpay for nothing more.

Thank you for any insight.[/QUOTE]I can't speak to costs at Serenity. But the quoted prices at Brit's Bodywork is considered all in. $110 hhr. $150 45 min. $180 hr. No additional tip is expected. From what I hear, some may leave an extra $20 for especially good service. But the upfront pricing means there is no mood-killing negotiations during the session.

Hope that helps.

G2.

[QUOTE=Gene2;5358119]I can't speak to costs at Serenity. But the quoted prices at Brit's Bodywork is considered all in. $110 hhr. $150 45 min. $180 hr. No additional tip is expected. From what I hear, some may leave an extra $20 for especially good service. But the upfront pricing means there is no mood-killing negotiations during the session.

Hope that helps.

G2.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Blackfire, Jmaul, Tigereye and Gene2.
I appreciate it.
I'm not unwilling to pay more if I'm getting more. To me that makes sense. But the "more" sounds marginal.

Model Plane building is an inexpensive Hobby.
Mongering is Not!
I figured out what My minimum requirements for a Return On Investment are when Mongering. If I can't get it, I don't do it. It's that simple!

[QUOTE=Monger01;5358405]Thanks for the info. Blackfire, Jmaul, Tigereye and Gene2.
I appreciate it.I'm not unwilling to pay more if I'm getting more. To me that makes sense. But the "more" sounds marginal.[/QUOTE]To each their own, it's your money and you alone have the right to spend it however you like!

The only way you'll know for sure is if you go. I haven't found a single member on this board who shares the exact same taste and budget I do. Reviews help determine if the likelihood of your encounter has a high chance of going well or a downright dumpster fire in the making.

Hope you find what you're looking for.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;5358465]Model Plane building is an inexpensive Hobby.
Mongering is Not!
I figured out what My minimum requirements for a Return On Investment are when Mongering. If I can't get it, I don't do it. It's that simple![/QUOTE]That about sums it up.

For the guy who wants special services at an MP he will pay more than an escort price.

I think Porn Hub is free and blow up dolls are a one time fee unless you pop them.

All BS aside Tigereye is right, some see more value in a respectful monger and might offer more because they are comfortable with the client. But only after you see them a few times and give them plenty of money.
I got a cheap B&G today from a girl I see often. The price had nothing to do with friendship or respect it was timing. Don't make appointments just check what's available on a Wednesday at noon. Room rent is due and their phones don't ring very often on Wednesday morning. Same with MP go when it's slow. I never monger on a Friday, they are busy and just want to get the next one on the table or in their pussy. They will spend a lot more time getting to know you when the phone is not ringing.

NJ is right too. Model plane building is cheaper than mongering.

[QUOTE=Benz1;5358621]That about sums it up.

For the guy who wants special services at an MP he will pay more than an escort price.

I think Porn Hub is free and blow up dolls are a one time fee unless you pop them.

All BS aside Tigereye is right, some see more value in a respectful monger and might offer more because they are comfortable with the client. But only after you see them a few times and give them plenty of money.

NJ is right too. Model plane building is cheaper than mongering.[/QUOTE]I agree with you and nosejelly. But the value vs spent amount is my call for my dollars. I don't expect FS at MP for 120, no. But for 180 I want to feel the extra 50% makes sense to me.

[QUOTE=Benz1;5358621]
NJ is right too. Model plane building is cheaper than mongering.[/QUOTE]Wait until I upload a pic of my latest. It's a Grumman F6F Hellcat. Super Sweet!

Jersey is back! And just in time for summer.

[QUOTE=Monger01;5358628]I agree with you and nosejelly. But the value vs spent amount is my call for my dollars. I don't expect FS at MP for 120, no. But for 180 I want to feel the extra 50% makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]There will always be the grey area of what you want and what each girl is willing to do and for what price. WaltK has it right, with enough money any request can be had.

If you're talking about the 60 dollar jump between 120 and 180, I would stick with the 120 options. Most girls want to see you more than once before they give you their full menu and it still might not be what you want for your money.

In the words of the late great Frank Zappa, Save your money don't go to the show.(Don't Eat the Yellow Snow)

[QUOTE=Benz1;5359198]There will always be the grey area of what you want and what each girl is willing to do and for what price. WaltK has it right, with enough money any request can be had.

If you're talking about the 60 dollar jump between 120 and 180, I would stick with the 120 options. Most girls want to see you more than once before they give you their full menu and it still might not be what you want for your money.

In the words of the late great Frank Zappa, Save your money don't go to the show.(Don't Eat the Yellow Snow)[/QUOTE]"Save your money, don't go to the show. " Twice that proved the case with my interactions with the late Frank Zappa. The first was at the Fillmore East, two days before I shipped out to Vietnam. Paid for the tickets, waiting for them to perform. They jumped around, tuned up, but never performed. I swore I'd never give Zappa a dime again. Maybe five years later I was in London. Good friend says, "Wow -- "200 Motels" is showing -- let's go!" Then he told me was a film by Frank Zappa. "No Way!" That SOB stole my money once, but my friend persisted. Afterwards I realized that the first theft was Zappa's fault; the second, mine. BTW, Panacea is a great place at the price. And yes, best to give a handsome tip first time around for not much action. Then, the second time, when they're comfortable with you, and you, them, you can make your requests fully known. My experience there does not include FS, but it's priced accordingly.

[QUOTE=Tommey;5359138]Jersey is back! And just in time for summer.[/QUOTE]Same great shape as before.

[QUOTE=TigerEye2525;5358021]WaltK, Moonglow913 care to "enlighten" him / us again? I was not going to respond to your latest comments regarding how money can buy anything. Maybe you can tell everyone where you've flashed your "real money" 5 k at a time to get what you really want? Not everyone on this forum is on the same financial playing field as you. Sounds like you both are well off. Congratulations. People have other events in their life where they can't afford to fling around that kind of cash to see who's going to supply the condom. Maybe when I'm in my fifties I can be in your club. To be completely honest I'm glad some of these ladies don't do full service for the same exact reason I am not in the mood to bring an std home to the wife. This was actually what one of the providers said. She said, "isn't it a relief for you guys to know that we don't have sex with everyone who asks for it?" To that I say a profound thank you and hell yes. Condoms fail. For this reason I'll never be on the Escorts or Streetwalkers forums. I don't go to Bodyworks as often as I want due to the fun things in life like child support etc. But when I do go, I am always respectful and am far from the guy "spending his stimulus money". Maybe someday I'll be in your elite club of guys with "real money". Believe it or not, there are some ladies out there who actually can see the worth of someone other than what they can monetarily "flash / offer".[/QUOTE]Being respectful and treating the provider right is going to get you more (and a better time) than when you are not. Likewise, more money will do the same. Combine the two and it will open doors (or should I say legs).

Went in to see Marie but she no longer works there, drew a relative of her's supposedly. Attractive early 20's very responsive nipples but I don't recall her name. $$$ MSOG, CBJ / FS. Couldn't get it up again after CBJ so no FS. Sweet, affectionate professional. Will repeat.

I have visited Panacea several times and have seen most of the popular therapists and always left very happy. I am familiar with how Panacea is and what not to expect. I am a good tipper and always show up freshly showered. This time, I showed up as a walk in (normally I call ahead and get an appointment with one of the therapists that I am familiar with). The only one available was Aliese, so I figured what the hell, why not. I knew she has been there a long time. I chose an hour because I don't like to be rushed. I was surprised that she didn't get comfortable right away and after a short time, I asked her if she would. Her response was kinda bitchy, but after a short time she reluctantly did down to her panties. I rubbed her legs a bit and her ass. As I rubbed around the front, she said (in a very bitchy and snappy voice) Don't go under. Although it really ruined the mood, I tried to blow it off and said something like I thought you might like it and she just said that's why I left them on. It wasn't as much as what she said, but how she said it. At that point, I backed off and was quiet. For the ending, I just tried my best to make it as quick as possible as I just wanted it to be over. I still tipped her. 5, but I normally tip more even for a half hour. I even had one experience that was at the wrong time of the months and pants stayed on and I still tipped more (that was only a half hour too). I will never repeat with Aliese again, even if she's the only one working. I know some people seem to like her, but I never want to repeat that experience again. When I say bitchy and snappy, that's putting it mildly. I have never had anyone at any spa respond the way she did and I don't feel I did anything to deserve it. I am respectful and don't do anything beyond anyone's wishes, but I can't read her mind.

[QUOTE=Cuminator;5360481]Went in to see Marie but she no longer works there, drew a relative of her's supposedly. Attractive early 20's very responsive nipples but I don't recall her name. $$$ MSOG, CBJ / FS. Couldn't get it up again after CBJ so no FS. Sweet, affectionate professional. Will repeat.[/QUOTE]I understand that Marie is now at Panacea as Haylah. Have not personally visited with her though. Thanks for the info on Serenity.

[QUOTE=RichWalter1;5360815]I have visited Panacea several times and have seen most of the popular therapists and always left very happy. I am familiar with how Panacea is and what not to expect. I am a good tipper and always show up freshly showered. This time, I showed up as a walk in (normally I call ahead and get an appointment with one of the therapists that I am familiar with). The only one available was Aliese, so I figured what the hell, why not. I knew she has been there a long time. I chose an hour because I don't like to be rushed. I was surprised that she didn't get comfortable right away and after a short time, I asked her if she would. Her response was kinda bitchy, but after a short time she reluctantly did down to her panties. I rubbed her legs a bit and her ass. As I rubbed around the front, she said (in a very bitchy and snappy voice) Don't go under. Although it really ruined the mood, I tried to blow it off and said something like I thought you might like it and she just said that's why I left them on. It wasn't as much as what she said, but how she said it. At that point, I backed off and was quiet. For the ending, I just tried my best to make it as quick as possible as I just wanted it to be over. I still tipped her. 5, but I normally tip more even for a half hour. I even had one experience that was at the wrong time of the months and pants stayed on and I still tipped more (that was only a half hour too). I will never repeat with Aliese again, even if she's the only one working. I know some people seem to like her, but I never want to repeat that experience again. When I say bitchy and snappy, that's putting it mildly. I have never had anyone at any spa respond the way she did and I don't feel I did anything to deserve it. I am respectful and don't do anything beyond anyone's wishes, but I can't read her mind.[/QUOTE]Had that have been me I'd decline the flip and no tip. Rewarding bad behavior in any interaction anywhere simply encourages it. She could have politely told you no. When I did MPs 4-5 times a month and would try a new girl sometimes she wasn't ok with touching or some other detail but they were always polite about it. Seems common sense to me to be polite to a paying tipping client.

[QUOTE=RichWalter1;5360815]I have visited Panacea several times and have seen most of the popular therapists and always left very happy. I am familiar with how Panacea is and what not to expect. I am a good tipper and always show up freshly showered. This time, I showed up as a walk in (normally I call ahead and get an appointment with one of the therapists that I am familiar with). The only one available was Aliese, so I figured what the hell, why not. I knew she has been there a long time. I chose an hour because I don't like to be rushed. I was surprised that she didn't get comfortable right away and after a short time, I asked her if she would. Her response was kinda bitchy, but after a short time she reluctantly did down to her panties. I rubbed her legs a bit and her ass. As I rubbed around the front, she said (in a very bitchy and snappy voice) Don't go under. Although it really ruined the mood, I tried to blow it off and said something like I thought you might like it and she just said that's why I left them on. It wasn't as much as what she said, but how she said it. At that point, I backed off and was quiet. For the ending, I just tried my best to make it as quick as possible as I just wanted it to be over. I still tipped her. 5, but I normally tip more even for a half hour. I even had one experience that was at the wrong time of the months and pants stayed on and I still tipped more (that was only a half hour too). I will never repeat with Aliese again, even if she's the only one working. I know some people seem to like her, but I never want to repeat that experience again. When I say bitchy and snappy, that's putting it mildly. I have never had anyone at any spa respond the way she did and I don't feel I did anything to deserve it. I am respectful and don't do anything beyond anyone's wishes, but I can't read her mind.[/QUOTE]Damn that sucks, sorry that happened to you. I haven't seen Aliese in a while but usually she gets completely nude right at the start. I wonder if it was her time of the month, although that still is no excuse for the rudeness. I agree with the other poster that if you declined the flip, she didn't deserve a tip with that attitude but since she did the flip and HJ, I would have just tipped the minimal like $20 and maybe that would teach her to be a little more kind.

[QUOTE=RichWalter1;5360815]I have visited Panacea several times and have seen most of the popular therapists and always left very happy. I am familiar with how Panacea is and what not to expect. I am a good tipper and always show up freshly showered. This time, I showed up as a walk in (normally I call ahead and get an appointment with one of the therapists that I am familiar with). The only one available was Aliese, so I figured what the hell, why not. I knew she has been there a long time. I chose an hour because I don't like to be rushed. I was surprised that she didn't get comfortable right away and after a short time, I asked her if she would. Her response was kinda bitchy, but after a short time she reluctantly did down to her panties. I rubbed her legs a bit and her ass. As I rubbed around the front, she said (in a very bitchy and snappy voice) Don't go under. Although it really ruined the mood, I tried to blow it off and said something like I thought you might like it and she just said that's why I left them on. It wasn't as much as what she said, but how she said it. At that point, I backed off and was quiet. For the ending, I just tried my best to make it as quick as possible as I just wanted it to be over. I still tipped her. 5, but I normally tip more even for a half hour. I even had one experience that was at the wrong time of the months and pants stayed on and I still tipped more (that was only a half hour too). I will never repeat with Aliese again, even if she's the only one working. I know some people seem to like her, but I never want to repeat that experience again. When I say bitchy and snappy, that's putting it mildly. I have never had anyone at any spa respond the way she did and I don't feel I did anything to deserve it. I am respectful and don't do anything beyond anyone's wishes, but I can't read her mind.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear, I have seen Aliese numerous times and thought she was awesome. My last visit with her was below par at best. I usually will give a lady the benefit of the doubt if they are off for an appointment, everyone has personal stuff going on, but I was taken aback by how non sensual the experience was.

For me personally my time and money will be spent elsewhere. If I ever go back to panacea, it'll be with Natalie or someone who has been more favorably reviewed recently. I don't want to try and figure out if this is becoming more of a trend with the ladies there or if it's only an exception.

[QUOTE=Monger01;5361266]Had that have been me I'd decline the flip and no tip. Rewarding bad behavior in any interaction anywhere simply encourages it. She could have politely told you no. When I did MPs 4-5 times a month and would try a new girl sometimes she wasn't ok with touching or some other detail but they were always polite about it. Seems common sense to me to be polite to a paying tipping client.[/QUOTE]You're right. I shouldn't have rewarded bad behavior and with her attitude, it wasn't very enjoyable anyway. Declining the flip and no tip would have been the perfect response to her. I will remember that if anything like that ever happens again. I should have known better, called ahead and made an appointment with one of the girls I'm familiar with.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;5361329]Damn that sucks, sorry that happened to you. I haven't seen Aliese in a while but usually she gets completely nude right at the start. I wonder if it was her time of the month, although that still is no excuse for the rudeness. I agree with the other poster that if you declined the flip, she didn't deserve a tip with that attitude but since she did the flip and HJ, I would have just tipped the minimal like $20 and maybe that would teach her to be a little more kind.[/QUOTE]It sucked big time. Very disappointing. I will definitely not repeat with her. Thanks for your thoughts.

[QUOTE=JMaul;5361394]Sorry to hear, I have seen Aliese numerous times and thought she was awesome. My last visit with her was below par at best. I usually will give a lady the benefit of the doubt if they are off for an appointment, everyone has personal stuff going on, but I was taken aback by how non sensual the experience was.

For me personally my time and money will be spent elsewhere. If I ever go back to panacea, it'll be with Natalie or someone who has been more favorably reviewed recently. I don't want to try and figure out if this is becoming more of a trend with the ladies there or if it's only an exception.[/QUOTE]Thanks. In my opinion, her attitude was beyond having a bad day.

I hope to make an appointment soon at Pancea but could use some help. Your reports are very helpful as to who not to go to. Could anyone put a name to the face so I know who I am requesting?

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[QUOTE=TomTravis;5359412]"Save your money, don't go to the show. " Twice that proved the case with my interactions with the late Frank Zappa. The first was at the Fillmore East, two days before I shipped out to Vietnam. Paid for the tickets, waiting for them to perform. They jumped around, tuned up, but never performed. I swore I'd never give Zappa a dime again. Maybe five years later I was in London. Good friend says, "Wow -- "200 Motels" is showing -- let's go!" Then he told me was a film by Frank Zappa. "No Way!" That SOB stole my money once, but my friend persisted. Afterwards I realized that the first theft was Zappa's fault; the second, mine. BTW, Panacea is a great place at the price. And yes, best to give a handsome tip first time around for not much action. Then, the second time, when they're comfortable with you, and you, them, you can make your requests fully known. My experience there does not include FS, but it's priced accordingly.[/QUOTE]I saw Frank Zappa in Muskegon at the Frauenthal Center for Performing Arts. Awesome show. It was right after televangelist Jimmy Swagger got busted with a hooker. Zappa had written some amazing new songs about Jimmy's Sanctified Johnson.

Back to Panacea. I tried your method of operating I was told this is how it works, when they first opened. All I was getting was DATY and a HJ in return. She was Poppin and I got a lousy HJ and spent way to much for No BJ.

That's when I started looking for guarantee for my money. The search takes awhile, I'm a patient man that doesn't like to get a raw deal.

Paying up on your first visit might not be for everyone who's hoping they will be rewarded well.
Save your money, I wouldn't buy that BS from that Ho
I moved on and glad I did.

[QUOTE=HeelHound;5363624]I hope to make an appointment soon at Pancea but could use some help. Your reports are very helpful as to who not to go to. Could anyone put a name to the face so I know who I am requesting?

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/panacea-risky-business-theme-w/754148702257[/URL][/QUOTE]At least I could have spelled Panacea correctly if I was hoping for help. Sorry.

[QUOTE=HeelHound;5363624]I hope to make an appointment soon at Pancea but could use some help. Your reports are very helpful as to who not to go to. Could anyone put a name to the face so I know who I am requesting?

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[QUOTE=HeelHound;5363624]I hope to make an appointment soon at Pancea but could use some help. Your reports are very helpful as to who not to go to. Could anyone put a name to the face so I know who I am requesting?

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/panacea-risky-business-theme-w/754148702257[/URL][/QUOTE]The top 4 are Natalie, Ava, Eve and Lexi and they all get rave reviews. The last one on the bottom is Aliese and she used to be good and reliable but has been getting bad reviews lately.

[QUOTE=Moonglow913;5364267]Which one?[/QUOTE]The second girl in the high collar sweater with a small nose hoop and beautiful eyes. Also the 7th girl in jeans with dark curly hair taking a selfie in front of the sink.