Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=HighwayGuy;4057617]Thank you RR and Happy for the feedback. Your points are valid and well received, and a nice segue to my first contribution here.

Last week I dreamt that I decided to visit a certain Thai provider recently mentioned here, whose name begins with "are". There's a linked ad a few pages back in this forum, but her pictures do her no justice. In my dream she was perfectly stunning, and from casual conversation my math puts her around 27, tho she doesn't really look a day over 19.

The dream was vivid and here are the details as I recall.

Scheduling a breeze via text.

Easy to find large apartment building in shirlington.

Appears to live alone and operates as fully independent.

Well educated, good English and been in country a few yrs.

$. 25 hr for good massage standard nova finish.

Opted for the only available menu upgrade, which was topless for 3 jacksons (poor value but her perfectly enhanced rack was irresistible this time).

Rather mechanical and no real connection was made, which could be attributed to any number of things I suppose. That said she was rather sweet and talkative.

This young lady is exactly my type from a physical appearance perspective, and conveniently located for me. Unfortunately tho, I think I'll shop around before repeating. Prefer a little more on the menu. That's not to say I won't repeat, she's just too pretty not to.

Side note here. She mentioned that since the BP shutdown her earnings have dropped over 50%. Compounding that hardship, she lost nearly everything in cryptocurrency investments.[/QUOTE]LOL, why not just say Reya? She wouldn't care if you gave her a positive review.

Was driving down LRT today in Annandale and stopped in to Won Massage. If you search around the forums there is a lovely tall lady there who is quite good with her hands. Unfortunately she is the only one that's so engaging with customers. The other is shorter, older, doesn't give any extra attention or engagement, and will work you for a large tip. She gives a good massage, albeit in between answering the phone or both at the same time, but she will hassle the hell out of you for more. That's twice she's done that and since you never know who you're going to get when you walk in the door, I am done with Won. Alas, take the plunge if you must, but beware.

I recall seeing a report on here about a stray email from a "Samantha" that several of us got. There was some thought that it was similar to Jades ads. Well. I can attest it is not Jade. I sent an email today to see what was up. Was given an address and told to text upon arrival. Address was a Safeway. When I texted, I got a message that said since I was new, I had to get a gift card for our first meet. I told her it wasn't going to happen and have a good day. No response.

So if you got that email, she has moved from Vienna metro to fair lakes.

What is funny is that there must be a fair number of idiots that follow through on this or it would have stopped by now. How could anyone give her that info. Way too gullible.

HD 29.

Visited an old favorate place that has always treated me nicely in Chantilly on Sullyfield Circle. Had a wonderful and happy time. Attractive and nice and hot owner lady was sad. She went to Thailand for 2-3 weeks and the ladies at the spa were overcharging and not providing full time. When she got back, many old good clients left and business was down. Apparently some posted somewhere, about the bad experiences, and business was really down now.

She asked me to get the word out that she was back, old bad gals were gone, and now service is back up to the old quality and value. She likes her clients and takes pride in being a great place to go. She apologizes for the terrible times in November and wants to make it right to her old regular customers and anyone new. She said please come back!

I guess I can see how this could happen. Even in the old days they did not advertise much or at all, and depended on repeat business and word of mouth referrals, and they had a lot. Always enjoyable visits for me and treated me well. !

Hope you have the same great massages and good times that I have enjoyed there.

DC002.

Anyone have any recommendations for Fairfax area.

[QUOTE=DC002;4058452]Attractive and nice and hot owner lady was sad. She went to Thailand for 2-3 weeks and the ladies at the spa were overcharging and not providing full time. When she got back, many old good clients left and business was down. Apparently some posted somewhere, about the bad experiences, and business was really down now.

She asked me to get the word out that she was back, old bad gals were gone, and now service is back up to the old quality and value. She likes her clients and takes pride in being a great place to go. She apologizes for the terrible times in November and wants to make it right to her old regular customers and anyone new. [/QUOTE]Sara is a great lady and treats her customers well. If you take.

Care of her in politness and curtosiy she remembers and will guide you to the right gal or take care of you yourself which she is quite skilled at. Nice lady and worth the time IMHO.

[QUOTE]
This is a truncated synopsis of events at an AMP visit last week (with names and location withheld to respect the girl and the AMP). As I said, this isn't the first time this has happened with me at an AMP during the past 5 months. My point is, FS is "available" in NoVA, if conditions are right. Getting those conditions to align is part of when and how you proceed.[/QUOTE]I'm going to take it upon myself as a little curiosity challenge and find this wonderful place and the one mentioned by Rubmelongtime in one of his previous posts. I appreciate the fact that you guys chose to let us know the valuable information so that we don't always need to cross the river yet in such a way such that every other guy won't flood the place. I will come back and post my experiences. Respect.

T.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;4057171]This is a truncated synopsis of events at an AMP visit last week (with names and location withheld to respect the girl and the AMP). As I said, this isn't the first time this has happened with me at an AMP during the past 5 months. My point is, FS is "available" in NoVA, if conditions are right. Getting those conditions to align is part of when and how you proceed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TrueHeart;4059887]I'm going to take it upon myself as a little curiosity challenge and find this wonderful place and the one mentioned by Rubmelongtime in one of his previous posts. I appreciate the fact that you guys chose to let us know the valuable information so that we don't always need to cross the river yet in such a way such that every other guy won't flood the place. I will come back and post my experiences. Respect.

T.[/QUOTE]Good luck in your search, True, but don't be surprised if your search is fruitless in finding Rub's or my therapist. As I said, the place is [U]not[/U] known for FS, nor are any of the girls at the place I visited known for offering "side benefits". I suspect it was a spontaneous event that "came" with the situation at hand. However, now that she and I have crossed that line, I don't think I'll have too much difficulty convincing her to do a repeat (especially since she now knows I won't blast-off inside her).

But, since we're discussing the matter, may I suggest an alternative approach to ward off frustration during your search? Consider employing the techniques that made the stars align (in my case, at least). As I mentioned in my prior post, it's happened to me three times in the past five months. What I did not also mention is that, over the past 20 years at AMPs and at the old TCCC, the same situation arose more than a two dozen times. I won't conclude that my personality or *good looks* were the reason. The much more likely reason was the state of euphoria she was in. Another fact, at least with some of the ladies, was their age. Older ladies tend to be very desirous of oral attention and might be more likely to get caught up in the emotion of the moment. But younger girls have also succumbed. Speculation on my part, but I suspect it's close to accurate in many of the cases. There are other common factors that I can see, but suffice to say that a lot of it depends on the woman rather than the man.

[QUOTE=BlakeV;4059461]Anyone have any recommendations for Fairfax area.[/QUOTE]Try using it, let the fingers do the walking!

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[QUOTE=BlakeV;4059461]Anyone have any recommendations for Fairfax area.[/QUOTE]As a recent student of the arts, here is what I have learned. Go to [URL]Rubmaps.com[/URL] and get a list of the vendors in your area of interest (Free). Those are generally paid advertisements for the locations targeting men seeking erotic massages. You won't find Spa Envy listed for example and typically any other places with licensed massage therapists. Then come here and do a search on each one to see relevant comments in the last 6 months. Then you need to invest some money and come back here and share your findings.

[QUOTE=RubMeLongTime;4059808]Sara is a great lady and treats her customers well. If you take.

Care of her in politness and curtosiy she remembers and will guide you to the right gal or take care of you yourself which she is quite skilled at. Nice lady and worth the time IMHO.[/QUOTE]Took DC002'd recommendation and visited Best in Chantilly today. I was greeted by one of the best looking women I have ever seen in a Asian spa, and she led me to a room. Paid the entrance fee and we were off to the shower. Washed all of the "naughty bits" but pretty much standard without teasing. Back to the room and after drying, I laid on the table. Well, best back massage I've had in the US of A, but always covered. Hot towels for a walk across the back! She asked me to turn over and placed a cloth over my groin. When I asked if we could skip the cloth, she immediately began negotiations. Way too expensive for my retired butt, but did agree of a hand shake (. 7) Asked for testicle play and got very little, the whole thing was uneventful. Didn't enjoy the reason for the "tip" much (short, no foreplay and very fast). I did get 50+ minutes which pleased me, but overall an unsettling experience. No worth the trip from Maryland.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;4060131]
But, since we're discussing the matter, may I suggest an alternative approach to ward off frustration during your search? Consider employing the techniques that made the stars align (in my case, at least). There are other common factors that I can see, but suffice to say that a lot of it depends on the woman rather than the man.[/QUOTE]Rightly so. I always follow the golden rule to mongering, that is "Always treat them well". That said, I understand the nature of what I'm seeking and that it can be very much fruitless especially with one visit. From my limited experience, I can assure that the quality of service does go up when building a rapport with a specific provider and these things do tend to take a while. To add to it, there's an endless list of massage places that one needs to TOFTT and repetitively.

That said, I was surprised by another new finding in nova. I haven't RTFF about full menu at this place. Provider looked later twenties to early thirties Chinese, very cute and pretty for the AMP scene, average build, natural Bs, slightly taller for asian women. Paid the house fee for an hr disrobed and waited. Now mind you I wasn't sure if I could get more than standard nova here. She didn't seem interested in chit chat, I asked for a strong massage. I've to praise her technique and strong hands / fingers. She also walked on my back for a few minutes. Started lotioning after about fifteen minutes. Moved to the butt did good work but not really a tease thing. So I moved my leg around and made sure she had access to by inner thighs, she reached for the groin area and massaged a bit. By this time it was game on for junior and she noticed it. Flip came about immediately and I was hoping probably she's going to finish and then continue with her good massage for the rest of the hr. She motioned her hands for a HJ and I asked if there's more to be had? She motioned her hand towards her mouth and to make sure I asked if everythings on the menu, while brushing my hand all over her body. Now at this point, I was not sure if she got that or not since she did mention earlier her english was poor. She says, extra tips and I ask how much? To my little surprise she says $. 20 but that made me doubt me doubt if she's wants that much for a BJ. It was too late to opt out nor clarify things since the little head had assumed control. I paid, she went out and came back in with a saran wrap and in my mind, I was like oh God not this again. Luckily I pack my emergency rubber these days and I offered that and she was okay with it. I sat on the edge of the table, she disrobed, knelt and started a CBJ quite mechanical. Couple minutes later, I'm all hard and I wanted to explore her more I lifted up tried to peck, nurse, tickle the girls and she kept avoiding all that. She knelt again I stood and continued the CBJ. I thought if this is all I'm going to get, might as well try a face fuck gently. Thankfully she laid on the table for a standing mish even during which not much roaming was allowed. I wanted to switch positions but she didn't and made gestures that she didn't want to move much nor make noise / sound. I seriously didn't understand that ploy because I was pounding her and it sure did make some slapping noise. Anyways I kept pounding with no other access, and to my surprise she reaches out to her clit and stimulates with her finger but did not allow me when I offered to assist. More pounding and erupted in the cover. Cleaned up. By now it was forty minutes into the hr. She did try to send me out but by saying "finished" and I pointed to the clock and said there's more time left. Now her attitude went a little sour and she did a very lacklustre massage on my legs much contrasting to before. I asked her to just give me a head massage for just five minutes because I really needed it. She obliged. I was out in about forty five to fifty minutes. Really great massage skills, strong hands but attitude and utter mechanical service will never get my patronage. Total damage. 70+$. 20.

Senior members please PM me for location and provider.

T.

[QUOTE=Madness322;4060708]As a recent student of the arts, here is what I have learned. Go to [URL]Rubmaps.com[/URL] and get a list of the vendors in your area of interest (Free). Those are generally paid advertisements for the locations targeting men seeking erotic massages. You won't find Spa Envy listed for example and typically any other places with licensed massage therapists. Then come here and do a search on each one to see relevant comments in the last 6 months. Then you need to invest some money and come back here and share your findings.[/QUOTE]If "student of the arts" decodes as GMU grad of recent or longtime vintage. Congrats -- go Patriots!

Always be nice to the ladies (regardless of their college affiliations).

PA.

Decided to go down and give her a try.

The apartment was a pretty normal apartment, massage table in the living room.

Girl is kinda messy and she had cloudy with a chance of meatballs playing on silent.

Very friendly sweet girl. Gave a pretty decent massage, flip and standard nova finish.

Not the most sensual massage ever, but not too bad.

She's really cute and young, definitely worth going once in a while.

Not going to be a regular, but I'll probably go back sometime.

Based on recommendations from members here (thanks Lucretius and Roamin Roman), I gave KK a call.

Met her at her place where she has a nice setup. Showered alone and then received a very excellent firm massage with some stretching too.

Flipped for the standard finish + prostate massage (which she's also very good at).

Thanked her for the awesome massage, $. 20 +. 2 which she seemed happy with. I'll be back.

[QUOTE=PilotAviator;4061085]If "student of the arts" decodes as GMU grad of recent or longtime vintage. Congrats -- go Patriots![/QUOTE]Sorry no, just recent to the scene of internet based mongering. It wasn't until a couple of years ago that I discovered that the best places to study the arts are in classrooms without a sign outdoor and that you have to press a door bell to get in. Didn't know these places existed. Trying to make up for lost time. So many Asians so little time. Was in Tijuana few months back, what a wild scene that is.

I do not get to monger often but since I was there. Dreamed I was in Reston yesterday and remembered this place being mentioned here.

I was greeted by "Cindy". Tall with a tight top and short shorts.

I opted for the hour house fee of. 8. Loved the table shower. Back to the room I asked for the light touch. On the flip I noticed her top was off with some nice natural 36 c's. I asked for the bottoms to come off and she stated it would be $ for that. I said no and we agreed with. 8. She proceeded to tease and tease me with rubbing everywhere and she tried to get me with some camel toe slide. That was working for this old man so she got off the table and oiled me and her up and directed my hand to her honeypot and started gyrating on my hand and at the same time her giving me some nice handwork. She cleaned me up and did a little more massage as time warranted. The best release I have had at an AMP in years. Total damage was $.60. It was worth it for this old timer.

Both have minor parking issues with the advantage going to ST.

[QUOTE=Krakatoa;4051647]I was there a couple of weeks ago and did not get an I'd check. You must be a youngster.

I drew Jenny, who gave a good massage but was too old for me to get very excited about.[/QUOTE]In a general sense Tokyo had a "screening". For my initial visit I said that I had been there before. Usually that passes at most places. But the manager continued to press me; how long ago, who did I see etc. To the point that I almost confessed that it was my first time. Physically ST managers were "passable" while Tokyo was ancient.

My first massage at ST was excellent. The second visit by a different provider not so much. The first visit to Tokyo was meh. ST age was around 40 Tokyo around 50.

Tokyo has a stand up shower. ST table shower. I prefer the shower at the end. As I was showering and collecting my thoughts it was clear that ST blew Tokyo out of the water. While leaving the Tokyo Shower and making my way back to the room. Which came first the chicken or the egg? Well I saw and was introduced to "Smurfette". She was so young and attractive that as she told me her name I started to tell her my real name instead of my monger name! So in a sense, I had passed the "screening" and get to advance to the next round.

So this student of the arts wandered into the newest classroom in the neighborhood. Spa 11 in Herndon. Called ahead and made sure no waiting. Entrance is a little tricky, this is a office park complex with a series of one and two story buildings. This particular office can't be seen from the parking area it is in a little courtyard that requires steps to find. The door actually has a small sign like all the other offices. It is a safe area but I'd recommend going during daylight hours for your first visit to get oriented to the layout. Outer door unlocked, inner door with door bell. In the outer area a few chairs and bowl of candy. Met by Mamasan who took me to classroom collected the. 70 house which she indicated was a grand opening promotion. She told me to get ready for shower and she would go get a good one. After a minute a fit Korean (I asked) women came in and was very pleasant, we had no language issues. Off to the new table shower that had a nice textured vinyl top rather than the usual slip and slide. She washed every inch of my body. After a quick towel dry she led me down the hall and opened a door and pointed into the sauna and said be back in a couple of minutes. The sauna was toasty warm, not sauna hot and had that new wood aroma. It felt good on a cold day, true to her word she returned after I dried off in the heat and before I started to sweat and led me back to the class room. It was average size. New finishes. No pretense of a towel, just lay face down and she went to work on an above average and pleasant massage. Piped in music with classic soft-rock oldies, bordering on distracting at times, Didn't realize I would actually miss new age spa music.

After the back massage came the light finger tip tease and instructions to turnover. Then some negotiation and settled on a price. I'm a slow cooker and know that they will earn every penny. Off with the whole uniform and I roamed around while she did the NOVA thing. Several positions and different hand techniques later (and lots of wandering) I was finally happy.

70 house and $ tip. After helping me get dressed she gave me a big hug and said "next time we do more if you know what I mean". Said it again as I was leaving.

I'll be back.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;4060131]What I did not also mention is that, over the past 20 years at AMPs and at the old TCCC, the same situation arose more than a two dozen times. I won't conclude that my personality or *good looks* were the reason. The much more likely reason was the state of euphoria she was in. Another fact, at least with some of the ladies, was their age. Older ladies tend to be very desirous of oral attention and might be more likely to get caught up in the emotion of the moment. But younger girls have also succumbed. Speculation on my part, but I suspect it's close to accurate in many of the cases. There are other common factors that I can see, but suffice to say that a lot of it depends on the woman rather than the man.[/QUOTE]I'm probably not as young or handsome as RR, but I agree, chemistry happens. You've got to figure, most of these gals don't have a boyfriend or a husband. They spend all day looking at dick, getting men off, and not getting any themselves. It has to boil over now and then. My tactic is to turn the tables--offer them a massage. Most will accept, and I happen to be fairly good at it. Suddenly you have the upper hand, so to speak. Already you've broken the routine and established a more equal and natural relationship. Two people in a room.

[QUOTE=Krakatoa;4062797]I'm probably not as young or handsome as RR,[/QUOTE][INDENT]You never know, Krak. Besides, your personality probably outshines mine. My career has been in a dimly-lit office environment, not conducive to developing quick wit and repartee or other valuable social skills that would work for the ladies.

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[QUOTE=Krakatoa;4062797]but I agree, chemistry happens. You've got to figure, most of these gals don't have a boyfriend or a husband. They spend all day looking at dick, getting men off, and not getting any themselves. It has to boil over now and then. My tactic is to turn the tables--offer them a massage. Most will accept, and I happen to be fairly good at it. Suddenly you have the upper hand, so to speak. Already you've broken the routine and established a more equal and natural relationship. Two people in a room.[/QUOTE][INDENT]You are [b]so[/b] right about offering to give the girl a massage, and the ability to [u]give[/u] a decent massage is a valuable asset. It's come in handy with me on more than a few occasions and helps break the ice, as you note. Not only that, a good massage - - - which the girl can often use and appreciate - - - will put her in an entirely different frame of mind, especially if you know how to give [u]hrt[/u] "the flip". (It also helps if you bring a decent massage oil with you. I keep a small bottle, from Bath & Body Shop, in my gym bag in case I visit an AMP on the way home, which is fairly often.) Also, the fact that [b]you[/b] can give a good massage will get around to the other girls. They [u]do[/u] compare notes and share info on us mongers. And, as you said, once you get them out of their routine and feeling nice & relaxed, then it's "[i]two people in a room.[/i]"

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How much do masssage therapists make at a parlor? Do they split the house fee? Same across the cultures?

[QUOTE=Procrast333;4062933]How much do masssage therapists make at a parlor? Do they split the house fee? Same across the cultures?[/QUOTE]$60 house fee they get $20. If they have a state massage license they get $30. Usually these are the owners or managers. Good English skills and can drive a car. That is why tipping is important if you want to build a full service rapporteur with a particular lady. Whether you tip her $20 up to $200 is not important to owner. They always get their $40. TIME is also a important commodity with worth $. If you offer to Massage the lady or let her know you can leave a few minutes early since your a bit short on cash they may consider this part of the tip. Also bring fast food, a whopper, chicken fingers, Subway tuna salad, milk shakes. A cheap easy way to open alot of doors. But remember they are Chinese Women and cash is king. Be generous and you may discover sleep overs are avaliable for that special guy. If you do "date" a therapist, be ready to drive them around, alot, on their day off. Not a conventional tip but these ladies can barter for services very well. Just ask. This is particularly effective for those guys who do not have to go home, immediately. . Be creative and you will be introduced to their world.

[QUOTE=Procrast333;4062933]How much do masssage therapists make at a parlor? Do they split the house fee? Same across the cultures?[/QUOTE]Tax free. Usually they have gambling debts to pay off.

[QUOTE=SonnyJones;4062053] That was working for this old man so she got off the table and oiled me and her up and directed my hand to her honeypot and started gyrating on my hand and at the same time her giving me some nice handwork. It was worth it for this old timer.[/QUOTE]Your description works for this old timer. Roger Bacon and CC are the only two places I haven't been in this area so I will move this to the top of my list. I drive past RB at least 5 times a week on the way to my health club so memories of your adventure will put a smile on my face. Thank You.

[QUOTE=GripNSip;3901431]Pics are a bit dated. She's a little older but all things considered, she's still very attractive given her age. She's in great shape. Massage is good but she upsells hard for extras. A trip to GB literally will give you more bang for your buck but if thats too far for you than shes worth a go if you got the $ to spare.[/QUOTE]I visited Luna last week and the above about her looks is true. She's in good shape, but she's not skinny. She's got a great personality and makes sure you're comfortable and relaxed. Didn't get a shower because we agreed on P2 P beforehand and we basically got t it after the brief intro. And that slide ride was fantastic! She knew how to work those hips and hands over and on meI could barely hold back. Though, I manged to the point she was getting worn out and she was coaxing me to cum. So I switched and gave her a back massage with a thigh slide. Eventually, I just wanted in and asked for FS, which she gladly accepted. After finishing she offered the shower, but I had to get going.

[QUOTE=Procrast333;4062933]How much do masssage therapists make at a parlor? Do they split the house fee? Same across the cultures?[/QUOTE]It depends on how busy they are and what kind of services are offered.

Without extra services (E. G. , standard NOVA finish and more), they make about 40 K per year at a spa that has average number of clients per day (E. G. 5 clients).

With extra services, they make about 70 K per year at a spa with an average number of clients per day.

With extra services at a busy spa, they can make 90 K to 100 K per year.

If they offer services above and beyond, who knows? Probably more than 100 K per year.

Most expect to make 70 K per year offering a standard NOVA finish.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;4057171]Not the first time this has happened with me at an AMP south of the river. Run of the mill AMP known for Standard NoVA, located close to the Beltway. A therapist I've seen a couple times before, and not one you'd necessarily choose from a line up. Recognizes me, says [I]"Long time, honey."[/I] Thorough TS, good solid massage, and arousing tease. Removes her top at the flip. Then, after a momentary pause (as if wondering whether she should), strips completely, climbs onto the table, straddles my waist, and leans forward to allow access to her nipples. Meanwhile, she's gyrating her hips close to junior.[/QUOTE]What was the damage, RR?

Well, I've embarked on a new quest to find more value by applying a different approach. Here's my recent findings on two visits in the last few days.

QQ-1 spa, Alexandria.

I was around the neighborhood on business and before taking the plunge I tried to make the most out of searching for artifacts on this place. Also, there were a few more spas dotted around so it was a bit hard to choose. I wasn't really hoping much though since it did have decent yelp / google reviews, so I said to myself atleast I'll get a good massage and not just a plain old rub and lacklustre finish. I called to get a vibe over phone, couldn't decipher much, but the mamsan did say she'll give ten off of a body scrub for a total of. 70 for one hr with the scrub. I go there, pay the fee and learn that they have neither shower and I'm puzzled on how they do a body scrub. I disrobe and lay down, in comes a mid forties decent looking for her age woman, I forgot if she said she was Chinese or korean. I insisted on a strong massage and she laughingly replied try not to cry then. Okay, so she started with an intense back walk and what followed was a thorough legit massage working all over my back, neck, shoulder, arms, feet. After fifty minutes, she brought a coconut / sugar scrub and did scrub my entire backside of my body with it on the same table and then washed it of with hot towel. And that was all. To my surprise, I was indeed very relaxed and there were tears popping out of my eyes. Relief tears anyone? What she said earlier made sense to me now. I tipped. 30 and boy she was really happy about it. It did feel genuinely nice to put a smile on someone else's face, I left happier and smiling too in a different kind of way. May come back for legit massage if in the area.

Wen Spa Vienna.

This place seemed new to me or not. Atleast I haven't read any reviews on this place yet so decided to take a dip. Lot of parking, no mamasan, no two door setup. I walk in and I was greeted by Tina mid thirties Chinese girl, very decent looking, natural B, wearing a no skin show outfit, yes that's right. Okay may be the top was a little lower but other than that, full sleeves, stretchy pants, boots. But she seemed lively. No table shower but standing shower available but I didn't partake. I opt for the hr for. 60. Now again, I try to be nice to her and engaged in chit chat for a while and after that she really didn't seem to be responsive much. She used a good amount of oil on my back and I'd call the entire massage a medium pressure rub working on back, butt, legs and arms. I won't say she lacked technique nor seemed uninterested, but that's her style of massaging I guess. Forty five minutes of that and then the flip. She asked if I wanted the nova standard. I enquired if more could be had, but she declined. Quoted. 40 for nova minus roaming, . 50 with roaming that too UTR, top did not come off. The HJ technique was sensual and she took her time but sadly I couldn't prolong and I blew the load. She milked out till the last drop which in my book is a nice touch. Thorough clean up and left at the hour mark. Nothing particularly very appealing nor value for money to come back IMHO. Because I could always sample the plenty of other locations which atleast would give me the excitement factor of finding something new. Next in my list if Forever wellness in Fairfax. Stay tuned fellas.

T.

Had a daydream at blue therapy (first search result) few weeks ago. Dreamt of late 30's m'msan greeting me at lower, basement office with entrance to side. Wore a tight dress. Had an attractive authority to her. After we exchanged pleasantries, I dreamt of being asked lots of questions "First time here? "where you been before honey?" Answered the usual "been here before". Was put off by "How much do you have? I politely asked for an hour massage, was told she was busy and could only accommodate 30 min. Turned out that shorter dreams are better especially when you don't know their content. Was treated to an average massage. On the flip, dreamt of an awful negotiation. Almost decided to leave, but ended up staying for the NOVA. Kept my hands to myself as those were rules for the price quoted. Won't repeat despite many promises that were made.

$. 6.

For what you just described, you should have spent between. 4 and. 6 for the HH (haven't been to Blue in a few years so I don't know their current house fee) and. 4 for the extras.

Hold your ground!

[QUOTE=Iamdebest;4064116]Had a daydream at blue therapy (first search result) few weeks ago. Dreamt of late 30's m'msan greeting me at lower, basement office with entrance to side. Wore a tight dress. Had an attractive authority to her. After we exchanged pleasantries, I dreamt of being asked lots of questions "First time here? "where you been before honey?" Answered the usual "been here before". Was put off by "How much do you have? I politely asked for an hour massage, was told she was busy and could only accommodate 30 min. Turned out that shorter dreams are better especially when you don't know their content. Was treated to an average massage. On the flip, dreamt of an awful negotiation. Almost decided to leave, but ended up staying for the NOVA. Kept my hands to myself as those were rules for the price quoted. Won't repeat despite many promises that were made.

$. 6.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sac4422;4063606][QUOTE=RoaminRoman;4057171]Not the first time this has happened with me at an AMP south of the river. Run of the mill AMP known for Standard NoVA, located close to the Beltway. A therapist I've seen a couple times before, and not one you'd necessarily choose from a line up. Recognizes me, says [I]"Long time, honey."[/I] Thorough TS, good solid massage, and arousing tease. Removes her top at the flip. Then, after a momentary pause (as if wondering whether she should), strips completely, climbs onto the table, straddles my waist, and leans forward to allow access to her nipples. Meanwhile, she's gyrating her hips close to junior.[/QUOTE]

What was the damage, RR?[/QUOTE]Not to be prickly, Sac, but the point of my post wasn't prices but rather the experience and how it came about. And, since I'm [U]not[/U] naming or even hinting at the location or the girl, the extent of the "damage" is irrelevant. Suffice to say that I did not cause any disruptions to the local pricing schemes we all know and love.

After one does resarch and reads all the intel they can find on usasexguide about the AMP they want to visit, then check out their page on Rubmaps. One can't see their reviews unless they are a member. However, the content of the review doesn't matter for this trick because one can see the dates of the reviews as well as the providers names. And those two pieces of info are really all one needs to pull off a good bluff.

I usually pick someone's name from that spa who was reviewed about a year ago. For the purpose of this example, let's call her "Trixie. " She's likely to be long gone by now unless they stick around that joint for an unusually long time. So I tell mama, "Yes, I've been here before. I've been out of the area for a while, but last time I was here I saw Trixie. " If by some chance she's still there, tell the mama you want to try someone different this time. If Trixie gets brought into the conversation and doesn't recognize you, just say, "It's been a year. ".

One time it got caught up like that with the girl insisting she had never met me before. So I told her and mama, "Well, I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I've gained 80 pounds. " LOL! Then I added, "That's why I asked to see some else this time. I would be really embarrassed for you to recognize me. " Turns out, that was good enough to get in the door.

BTW, I had Trixie as my massage therapist that day. Turns out, spending an hour with her was definitely worth all the BSing I had to do.

[QUOTE=Iamdebest;4064116]Had a daydream at blue therapy (first search result) few weeks ago. Dreamt of late 30's m'msan greeting me at lower, basement office with entrance to side. Wore a tight dress. Had an attractive authority to her. After we exchanged pleasantries, I dreamt of being asked lots of questions "First time here? "where you been before honey?" Answered the usual "been here before". Was put off by "How much do you have? I politely asked for an hour massage, was told she was busy and could only accommodate 30 min. Turned out that shorter dreams are better especially when you don't know their content. Was treated to an average massage. On the flip, dreamt of an awful negotiation. Almost decided to leave, but ended up staying for the NOVA. Kept my hands to myself as those were rules for the price quoted. Won't repeat despite many promises that were made.

$. 6.[/QUOTE]

RR the reason, I asked about the damage.

I am one of the unlucky guys who get lesser than most posts here. I had been lucky a few times though. The ask was too high. After reading yours and the other post I thought of trying some place I had in mind which could sucuum. I went there and was lucky enough. I was nice to the ladies as always. The mam said I will find someone good. After the flip, as I was touching, she asked me what do you want. To which I responded, she quickly got the hint and raised two figures indicating $2, which I declined. I don't want to affect the pricing in this area. Even though I haven't had luck I try not to affect price. I went for HJ, she asked. 6 and barely any touching was allowed.

So the question was sometimes for the right price you could persuade and get favors. And hence the question. But I respect if you don't like to provide my price and location. You can always PM me.

Thank for your posts, always enjoyed them.

Is ST still in business? It must be because of all the rave reviews but when I call the number on their site it says it is no longer in service.

About a week and a half ago I checked out the Chinese AMP next to the post office on Sudley Rd. 40 for half hour, 60 for the hour. I went for the half hour option. Older plain jane Chinese woman was my provider. Excellent massage, and when it came time to flip she asked me about extending it to one hour but I declined and she started massaging my chest and stomach. I had to prod her a little bit (in a nice way) for standard noVA and she obliged and got to work. I have been here twice before a few years ago and it was the same deal: I had to prod a little to get standard noVA. But the actual massage was great and I tipped 40.

Today I checked out the newer Chinese AMP off of Surveyor Ct, the next block over from another Chinese AMP that is located all the way down at the end of Digges Rd (you can see the front door of the other place looking across the parking lot). My provider (she was the only one working) was a big-boned Chinese woman with a big ass and tits. She was real playful and gave a decent medium presssure massage and knew how to tease before the flip. Afterwards, she took direction well and teased me and edged me for several minutes before I exploded. Tipped 40 and she was happy. I probably won't be back because I did not find her attractive at all. The rate is 40 for half hour, 60 for one hour.

I have Seven therapy this place 3 or 4 times over the last few weeks since it is very close to my place and is very convenient to get to. It is located in a row of businesses like dentist and therapy offices. Parking is pretty straight forward. House fee is along the lines of what I have read about on here for other places, 60 for an hour if I remember correctly. There is a TS but I didn't know about it until after my second visit. They didn't offer until after the 2nd trip and the provider told me I should get it on my next visit. I've only seen two different people working there, an older (40+? I'm bad at guessing ages) and one probably in her 30's. The massages have always been pretty good and the teasing happens without needing to ask. On the flip they go to work without having to negotiate unless you want to roam. I have gotten DATY with the older provider and haven't had the chance to ask the younger.

Long story short I will go to this place again.

[QUOTE=IAmDeBest;4064116].... I politely asked for an hour massage, was told she was busy and could only accommodate 30 min. Turned out that shorter dreams are better especially when you don't know their content........ Won't repeat despite many promises that were made.

$. 6.[/QUOTE]Even in places where I'm known, when interviewing a new girl a 30 min is not a bad option. The exception: usually an hr comes with a table shower and that is a chase to break the ice.

[QUOTE=TrueHeart;4064069]Well, I've embarked on a new quest to find more value by applying a different approach. Here's my recent findings on two visits in the last few days.

QQ-1 spa, Alexandria.

I was around the neighborhood on business and before taking the plunge I tried to make the most out of searching for artifacts on this place. Also, there were a few more spas dotted around so it was a bit hard to choose. I wasn't really hoping much though since it did have decent yelp / google reviews, so I said to myself atleast I'll get a good massage and not just a plain old rub and lacklustre finish. I called to get a vibe over phone, couldn't decipher much, but the mamsan did say she'll give ten off of a body scrub for a total of. 70 for one hr with the scrub. I go there, pay the fee and learn that they have neither shower and I'm puzzled on how they do a body scrub. I disrobe and lay down, in comes a mid forties decent looking for her age woman, I forgot if she said she was Chinese or korean. I insisted on a strong massage and she laughingly replied try not to cry then. Okay, so she started with an intense back walk and what followed was a thorough legit massage working all over my back, neck, shoulder, arms, feet. After fifty minutes, she brought a coconut / sugar scrub and did scrub my entire backside of my body with it on the same table and then washed it of with hot towel. And that was all. To my surprise, I was indeed very relaxed and there were tears popping out of my eyes. Relief tears anyone? What she said earlier made sense to me now. I tipped. 30 and boy she was really happy about it. It did feel genuinely nice to put a smile on someone else's face, I left happier and smiling too in a different kind of way. May come back for legit massage if in the area.

Wen Spa Vienna.

This place seemed new to me or not. Atleast I haven't read any reviews on this place yet so decided to take a dip. Lot of parking, no mamasan, no two door setup. I walk in and I was greeted by Tina mid thirties Chinese girl, very decent looking, natural B, wearing a no skin show outfit, yes that's right. Okay may be the top was a little lower but other than that, full sleeves, stretchy pants, boots. But she seemed lively. No table shower but standing shower available but I didn't partake. I opt for the hr for. 60. Now again, I try to be nice to her and engaged in chit chat for a while and after that she really didn't seem to be responsive much. She used a good amount of oil on my back and I'd call the entire massage a medium pressure rub working on back, butt, legs and arms. I won't say she lacked technique nor seemed uninterested, but that's her style of massaging I guess. Forty five minutes of that and then the flip. She asked if I wanted the nova standard. I enquired if more could be had, but she declined. Quoted. 40 for nova minus roaming, . 50 with roaming that too UTR, top did not come off. The HJ technique was sensual and she took her time but sadly I couldn't prolong and I blew the load. She milked out till the last drop which in my book is a nice touch. Thorough clean up and left at the hour mark. Nothing particularly very appealing nor value for money to come back IMHO. Because I could always sample the plenty of other locations which atleast would give me the excitement factor of finding something new. Next in my list if Forever wellness in Fairfax. Stay tuned fellas.

T.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input. I haven't been to Wen but doesn't sound like one of the better AMPs in the area. Never the less appreciative you TOFTT. Forever wellness is solid for a NOVA experience tho I haven't been in quite some time. QQ spa is always legit. Never any extras but they give the vibe like there's more if you return. Spoiler: there's not.