[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity;3165486]Sadly one of many.[/QUOTE]I dunno, it all got a little too real for me I guess. SW's might not be for me.
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[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity;3165486]Sadly one of many.[/QUOTE]I dunno, it all got a little too real for me I guess. SW's might not be for me.
[QUOTE=Jlshd;3165708]I dunno, it all got a little too real for me I guess. SW's might not be for me.[/QUOTE]I stopped doing street walkers 20 years ago. It was totally different back then. I read some of these reports on here and just shake my head so many times.
I picked up "Chrissy" on the south side today in the rain. Blonde, mid-twenties, not bad looking at all. I requested DATY and a HJ for 20, she said fine. We found a spot and when I went down it um, didn't look too appealing. So, I offered another 5 for.
Head. "Chrissy" went to town in a crouched position, giving me easy rear access for FIV. Momentum quickly went away when a pedestrian came close and I decided to bail at that point. I dropped her off at 31st / G. As I'm driving away I noticed that all the stuff that was in the passenger door compartment was on the passenger floor! Two pens, tire gauge, ice scraper. How did I not catch that? She did get my phone charger, though. All I could do was laugh at my stupid self for being so careless.
Lesson learned.
[QUOTE=Jlshd;3165010]Picked up a HSW at around 20th and G. It was raining, cold, she was in a hoodie. Once she got into my car I realized that she looked pretty young, it kinda creeped me out so I asked if she was of legal age, she insisted that she was 30 years old. She was very short, petite and very skinny from her habit. She then asked if we could "hang out" and if I could get her a pipe. Yep, crackhead. I said absolutely not, and she apologized. I don't get down like that. She called me Papi every other second. She was such a desperate mess, I couldn't get into it. I just felt bad for her and I told her that, she teared up, maybe it was an act but it seemed sincere but who knows. She was surprisingly candid and upfront about her substance struggles. I bought her a sandwich believe it or not and she scarfed it down in about 2 seconds. Then gave her 20 bucks and sent her on her way. She asked for my name and if she could come stay by me, I obviously declined. Anyone know who this girl is??[/QUOTE]Was it her.
And also is there a specific time of day to find street walkers / street and how to recognize them? I'm not sure how accurate Grand Theft Auto is in terms of picking them up.
[QUOTE=DaveB3655;3165780]I stopped doing street walkers 20 years ago. It was totally different back then. I read some of these reports on here and just shake my head so many times.[/QUOTE]Interesting. How was it different?
[QUOTE=Jlshd;3165708]I dunno, it all got a little too real for me I guess. SW's might not be for me.[/QUOTE]Stay away if you can't sleep at night. But you should feel good, if that's possible, about feeling bad because it proves that you are a decent human being.
There are many reasons the girls are out selling their body: no job, sex addict, low money supply, needing the basics of food and shelter, etc. More and more, the main reason is to feed their dependency. It has gotten worse recently to where you have to do a complete search of your ride to make sure they didn't drop a pipe, rock, or other piece of paraphernalia. This is a fact of life that has its pros and cons. You can get a great looking girl for really cheep to feed our habbits. You can also get a haggard burned out girl type creature that may or may not perform, not to mention attempt to rob you blind. These realities must me accepted if you are going to play the game. Make no mestake, most, if not all the girls on backpage and Craigslist are in the same boat. We have a balancing act between our humanity and the need that has us trolling the streets and the Internet looking for a nut.
Good luck on the soul searching.
[QUOTE=DieselMike;3166004]Stay away if you can't sleep at night. But you should feel good, if that's possible, about feeling bad because it proves that you are a decent human being.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigMilwaukee;3166281]There are many reasons the girls are out selling their body: no job, sex addict, low money supply, needing the basics of food and shelter, etc. More and more, the main reason is to feed their dependency. It has gotten worse recently to where you have to do a complete search of your ride to make sure they didn't drop a pipe, rock, or other piece of paraphernalia. This is a fact of life that has its pros and cons. You can get a great looking girl for really cheep to feed our habbits. You can also get a haggard burned out girl type creature that may or may not perform, not to mention attempt to rob you blind. These realities must me accepted if you are going to play the game. Make no mestake, most, if not all the girls on backpage and Craigslist are in the same boat. We have a balancing act between our humanity and the need that has us trolling the streets and the Internet looking for a nut.
Good luck on the soul searching.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Do you really think some SW's aren't addicts and truly are out there for other reasons including sex addiction? I would honestly feel better if that was true. Us men are primal creatures, which is why prostitution is called the oldest profession in human history. I have no ethical quandary with the "profession" itself, as it makes perfect sense to me as an honest consenting exchange of goods and services. I enjoy the excitement of getting off with a stranger, a random girl but not at the expense of feeling unethical. This girl was so messed up and desperate it really just made me feel well, awful. Not sure I'm up for repeating an experience like that. I guess I'll take some time out and give it some reflection.
[QUOTE=Jlshd;3165876]Interesting. How was it different?[/QUOTE]Most of them weren't drug addicts or were being trafficked back then.
[QUOTE=DaveB3655;3166632]Most of them weren't drug addicts or were being trafficked back then.[/QUOTE]I'd respectfully disagree. Having been around for 25+ years most of them had dependency issues back then as well. The drug of choice has changed from Crack to Heroin to a large degree, but dependency has always been the number one reason.
[QUOTE=Jlshd;3165876]Interesting. How was it different?[/QUOTE]It's obviously the use of drugs has exploded over the years. In the mid 70's it was like being in a candy store watching the streetwalkers. North Avenue from 27th to 30th Street, 3rd Street from North to Center St, Wisconsin Ave from approximately 24th to 32nd Streets and downtown on Wells and Wisconsin were all bustling with activity back then. And they were for the most part all looking fine in skirts, dresses and short shorts with high heels. Then in the mid 80's it started to change. You were starting to see girls wearing the same clothes for days and just looking ragged. It has been a downward spiral ever since. I got many of stories from those years, believe me.
[QUOTE=DaveB3655;3166632]Most of them weren't drug addicts or were being trafficked back then.[/QUOTE]Trafficked yes. All controlled by pimps.
I saw Kayla last week off of G. Nice friendly brunette spinner. She said someone had stolen her phone and she was going to get a new one. She told ne about her add on Backpage, however it is from about two weeks ago with the same old number that doesn't work anymore. Anyone see her recently or know her new number? I really miss her.
[QUOTE=Jlshd;3166315] Us men are primal creatures, which is why prostitution is called the oldest profession in human history. [/QUOTE]Correction: SECOND oldest profession in human history. First is Hunter / Gatherer. No Meat?. No Pussy for you.
If you get right down to it MOST women who are willing to have sex are hookers. It's just that some require a different form of "currency" for payment than others. Cavewomen required food & safety. Matter of life & death. These days most of the girls we are seeing are no different than the cavewomen. To them having enough money to get their next fix seems like a matter of life & death. That's MOST of the women who are actively hooking. A few are doing it to support their kids. That's a very strong cavewoman instinct as well. A few might be hooking because it's easier than getting a min wage job. VERY few might be doing it because they are sex addicts but a sex addict who doesn't need money would most likely be boning numerous really good looking guys. Not sucking off some old chubby dude like me.
Back in High School girls would put out in exchange for either companionship with someone who made them feel special or because they wanted to be popular. In many cases their social status among their peers was determined by the guy they were able to catch & hold. Different currency, same principle. Hookers.
How about my wife? When I met her she was 31 YO and was a solid 8 or 8 1/2 but she had 2 kids from a previous marriage she needed to raise. I was decent looking back then but certainly not in the 8 range. Maybe a 5 back then, at best, when I was 35 YO? I'd be willing to bet that she would not have given me a second look if she had been single with no kids. So she hooks up with me because I might be able to provide a safe secure environment in which to raise her kids. THAT was the currency I provided & she used to see to my needs & wants as well. Once the kids were done with college & married off, my "currency" well seems to have run dry. She's still the same old hooker but her "John" doesn't have any currency that she NEEDS anymore. No Pussy for me unless I go out & find a girl that will accept the currency I have in my pocket.
They're ALL hookers. It's just a matter of what currency they are willing to accept. They've got all the supply. We've got all the demand. Hooker Econ 101.
Very well said.
May I ad.
Wife wants a new house, car, vacation, Suddenly currency well swells a little and trades are made until delivery.
She works, but can't do the big things by herself income wise.
But man does it lead to some long dry spells. I'd love to find a GF on the side, but who has time? Or the effort?
So I follow Charlie's advise, "pay them to leave". Schedule at my convenience and ignore my Fat 50 yr old greying self. While a do what I want for an hour.
Besides, its nice to fuck a twenty something VS a 50 yr old heavy weight like myself.
So Cheers to the oldest profession. It's just like getting your meat from the butcher shop. But not quite as expensive, Have you seen what a decent Rib Eye goes for these days! Makes an Hour seem like good deal.
[QUOTE=BadGr54;3167146]Correction: SECOND oldest profession in human history. First is Hunter / Gatherer. No Meat?. No Pussy for you.
If you get right down to it MOST women who are willing to have sex are hookers. It's just that some require a different form of "currency" for payment than others. Cavewomen required food & safety. Matter of life & death. These days most of the girls we are seeing are no different than the cavewomen. To them having enough money to get their next fix seems like a matter of life & death. That's MOST of the women who are actively hooking. A few are doing it to support their kids. That's a very strong cavewoman instinct as well. A few might be hooking because it's easier than getting a min wage job. VERY few might be doing it because they are sex addicts but a sex addict who doesn't need money would most likely be boning numerous really good looking guys. Not sucking off some old chubby dude like me.
Back in High School girls would put out in exchange for either companionship with someone who made them feel special or because they wanted to be popular. In many cases their social status among their peers was determined by the guy they were able to catch & hold. Different currency, same principle. Hookers.
How about my wife? When I met her she was 31 YO and was a solid 8 or 8 1/2 but she had 2 kids from a previous marriage she needed to raise. I was decent looking back then but certainly not in the 8 range. Maybe a 5 back then, at best, when I was 35 YO? I'd be willing to bet that she would not have given me a second look if she had been single with no kids. So she hooks up with me because I might be able to provide a safe secure environment in which to raise her kids. THAT was the currency I provided & she used to see to my needs & wants as well. Once the kids were done with college & married off, my "currency" well seems to have run dry. She's still the same old hooker but her "John" doesn't have any currency that she NEEDS anymore. No Pussy for me unless I go out & find a girl that will accept the currency I have in my pocket.
They're ALL hookers. It's just a matter of what currency they are willing to accept. They've got all the supply. We've got all the demand. Hooker Econ 101.[/QUOTE]