[QUOTE=GruveMan;6471627]I'm wondering how they get cameras set up in the spas.[/QUOTE]This is an old story from 2019 and all the video evidence got thrown out for invading privacy. Don't believe LEO has used the same tactics since.
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[QUOTE=GruveMan;6471627]I'm wondering how they get cameras set up in the spas.[/QUOTE]This is an old story from 2019 and all the video evidence got thrown out for invading privacy. Don't believe LEO has used the same tactics since.
[QUOTE=LuccaMac;6471787]Well said here. I did not read before that 265 arrests were made. That is astounding that video surveillance led to all the arrests.
LM.[/QUOTE]Facial recognition software mixed with phone records.
The facial recognition software does not work with a low hung baseball cap and glasses.
If you call or text with a burner phone there is no connection.
Problem is there saying this is about sex trafficking, nothing could be further from the truth. This is about getting on their high horse so the media can look at all the arrests. No more no less.
When I went to these places for the first time, I paid 80 first, The girls were very cautious and gave me a TS with clothes, because the girls didn't know the guests. I think there is a reason for them to do so, (worried about law enforcement). So after the first time I got it, and every time I've been there since then, it's straight up front with tip, the girls know what I need, Their service has never disappointed me.
There are so many things wrong with your beliefs it's not even funny.
Cap and glasses are great if you think they're trying to film you walking in / out. But it's super easy to plant cameras in the rooms. Longevity is the only problem to solve.
Even without that. All they have to do is pull you over shortly after you leave the establishment to identify you. Or identify you by the license plate or ride service that you used.
Burner phones are traceable as well. Just takes more work.
If they're going after the customers. Then their goal isn't really to be able to convict you. They just want to be able to plaster your picture up on the news to embarrass and put the fear the God into all the people who are too spineless to leave a bad marriage so they justify cheating by paying for it.
[QUOTE=Carlosa;6471848]Facial recognition software mixed with phone records.
The facial recognition software does not work with a low hung baseball cap and glasses.
If you call or text with a burner phone there is no connection.
Problem is there saying this is about sex trafficking, nothing could be further from the truth. This is about getting on their high horse so the media can look at all the arrests. No more no less.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HardenBert;6469704]Did they have anyone infiltrate with cameras?
[URL]https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/2019/04/05/who-are-the-men-arrested-in-3-county-day-spa-crackdown/3332757002/[/URL][/QUOTE]According to the warrant, they had a CI go in to MF with recording equipment (video / audio) and ask about sex for money.
The girl unfortunately says FS for $$ which is a kill shot in favor for the prosecution. The informant then asks for doubles and gets a price for that as well. He then leaves because "he must get more money" and goes back to the LEOs. The way it was worded was weird but the girl took 1. 7 for the hour and BJ but theres no mention on what the CI got LOL.
Other important info is that they surveilled for months. So keep a lookout when in parking lots to see if you find anybody spying.
P.S: There was no mention on if recording equipment was left inside rooms or anything. I doubt LEO plants them since these places probably already have cameras in the rooms by the owners. Its also sort of implied by the worker from MF who talked to the CI. (She shhhhd him when he initially asked for sex explicitly for $ and pointed up to the ceiling as in a theyre listening)
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P.S: There was no mention on if recording equipment was left inside rooms or anything. I doubt LEO plants them since these places probably already have cameras in the rooms by the owners. Its also sort of implied by the worker from MF who talked to the CI. (She shhhhd him when he initially asked for sex explicitly for $ and pointed up to the ceiling as in a theyre listening)[/QUOTE]I don't for a second doubt that any or all of these MP's have at the very least 2 weeks worth of footage stored on those cameras, and if they're playing with fire, having footage of a bunch of johns on hand to help plea their plea deal later on would be a crafty and logical move to make if you expect to have the hammer come down on you. I've been playing the AMP game for a while, but maybe it's time to stick to indies.
The fact that NDS had cameras all over the place and just shut down possibly linked to the raid down south (some say it's unrelated) isn't worth it for me. Semoran Spa is definitely tied to GG as they rotate girls between the two locations and as with all other spas Semoran is loaded with cameras.
I wonder how much cctv footage and between how many locations was used to create a list of 260 guys in that 2019 case.
[QUOTE=HardenBert;6469704]Did they have anyone infiltrate with cameras?
[URL]https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/2019/04/05/who-are-the-men-arrested-in-3-county-day-spa-crackdown/3332757002/[/URL][/QUOTE]This guy posted this bust from 2019 on this pass Saturday or Sunday, and now guys keep referring to it. It's an old post guys, that has nothing to do with the MF bust so calm down.
One lady was busted at the MF bust in May, the Mamasan, because she was laundering money and not paying her taxes the last two years.
No, other girl was busted and no John was busted either.
This was in Fort Lauderdale.
So calm down.
[QUOTE=OlderThanRocks;6471908]There are so many things wrong with your beliefs it's not even funny.
Cap and glasses are great if you think they're trying to film you walking in / out. But it's super easy to plant cameras in the rooms. Longevity is the only problem to solve.
Even without that. All they have to do is pull you over shortly after you leave the establishment to identify you. Or identify you by the license plate or ride service that you used.
Burner phones are traceable as well. Just takes more work.
If they're going after the customers. Then their goal isn't really to be able to convict you. They just want to be able to plaster your picture up on the news to embarrass and put the fear the God into all the people who are too spineless to leave a bad marriage so they justify cheating by paying for it.[/QUOTE]The big charges are going to come from unreported income & money laundering $100 k+ and the RICO charges. As far as what goes in the places I think most LEO as least that I know could really care less and think it would just be better if made it all legal, so then they could deal with the real and violent crimes going on everyday. As really anyway it's between consenting adults and just as goes on in hotel bars and nightclubs every night. They could then just have them report their tips like restaurant workers and problem and headache solved.
[QUOTE=Bearing100;6472038]The big charges are going to come from unreported income & money laundering $100 k+ and the RICO charges. As far as what goes in the places I think most LEO as least that I know could really care less and think it would just be better if made it all legal, so then they could deal with the real and violent crimes going on everyday. As really anyway it's between consenting adults and just as goes on in hotel bars and nightclubs every night. They could then just have them report their tips like restaurant workers and problem and headache solved.[/QUOTE]I agree. That's why I said "IF" they go after customers it's mostly just for publicity and shaming. See Robert Kraft and most of the Polk county stings.
[QUOTE=HardenBert;6469704]Did they have anyone infiltrate with cameras?
[URL]https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/2019/04/05/who-are-the-men-arrested-in-3-county-day-spa-crackdown/3332757002/[/URL][/QUOTE]I hope this is not going to happen here but most likely it will. They shut down so many agencies and such in the past year in south Fl. It's only a matter of time when they start doing so in central FL too. These spas are getting too popular not to be watched by the popo.
[QUOTE=AznWenis;6472185]I hope this is not going to happen here but most likely it will. They shut down so many agencies and such in the past year in south Fl. It's only a matter of time when they start doing so in central FL too. These spas are getting too popular not to be watched by the popo.[/QUOTE]If this is such a big thing, how is MM still open? They should have already known about what happened to other places.
[QUOTE=SouthSonny;6472195]If this is such a big thing, how is MM still open? They should have already known about what happened to other places.[/QUOTE]Milk Massage was raided today. Cops everywhere, some wearing masks to hide their identity.
[QUOTE=Carlosa;6471848]Facial recognition software mixed with phone records.
The facial recognition software does not work with a low hung baseball cap and glasses.
If you call or text with a burner phone there is no connection.
Problem is there saying this is about sex trafficking, nothing could be further from the truth. This is about getting on their high horse so the media can look at all the arrests. No more no less.[/QUOTE]I remember when this story came out. The reason they were able to install secret cameras inside the rooms was because they raided the entire plaza due to "a bomb threat" and that was their excuse to get inside and install the cameras.
[QUOTE=AffMar6;6472209]Milk Massage was raided today. Cops everywhere, some wearing masks to hide their identity.[/QUOTE]That's just a waste of police resources. Going to have to be a little more cautious, in the future (ball cap or hoodie, and sunglasses, etc.). Everyone just needs to be aware that LE probably has video of each and every monger, visiting MM, for the past month or two.
Stupid politics. Just let the girls earn some $$, and a focus on actual crime!
[QUOTE=AffMar6;6472209]Milk Massage was raided today. Cops everywhere, some wearing masks to hide their identity.[/QUOTE]It looks like the dark ages have returned. Does anyone know if this is operated by MBS again? I haven't heard about them for years.
Stay safe out there guys.