Any Idea Where She Danced
[QUOTE=RondaColdSon;6053758]Yeah it is pretty sad. If anyone is interested this is the dancer: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/finding__fruity/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Any idea where she danced? Hope they catch whoever is responsible. If it really was a customer doing OTC it seems like some video footage of her regulars at the club might provide a starting point. Thanks for the link.
Vlive Sat afternoon is very good vs Tattletales
Went to Vlive today for the first time. WOW, though it may not be for others. I'm a young guy, pretty new here, looking for young fit Latinas and white girls. Vlive has a wide mix of everything (Latina, AA, white / 20's-40's / natural-enhanced / pretty-plain). I got in a 330 pm. Compared to TT this place was better. Free parking with no one outside, not concerning safety since it was day time and rather close to gentrified part of town. Next to axe throwing place; all my non threatening hipster craft beer friend love to go. Cover was $10. Inside its 2 floors, upstairs has a bar and booths but it was dead. Downstairs is the action. Its darker & moody but you can still see anyone across the room if you squint. Big tv giving some ambient lighting, music was DJ mixed rap. Booth dances are $10. The songs are chopped up a little quicker, counted it on my watch, & noted a timer on the DJ's mixing board. Wasn't hard to notice some DO stuff. The ratio was good, 2:1 girls to paying customers. The girls here are more proactive, I had maybe 8-9 girls either come up and offer VIP within seconds or the typical talk for a minute before offering a dance. I declined them all. Until I saw "her". Perfect Latina, I couldn't draw her any hotter. I posted at the bar. Stuttered enough where she gave 3 other dances (luckily the fast songs made the wait quicker). She sat down with another stripper to talk. I wasn't sure if the etiquette is rude, but someone on this board told me that it is ok to ask as long as she doesn't have a customer. I was worried that it would show my interest too strong and get a stronger upsell later (this was untrue! I went up asked, without any attitude we went to a couch. I got 2 dances to test. Her English is poor, my Spanish is poor so not much talking. Which is fine, since she gave a sensual dance and pressed on me, let my hands touch any visible. After that, I asked for VIP 30 min. It was $60 to the house, $200 for girl. Thats it for CBJ, S&F. At Tattletales its $300 (100 to house, 200 to girl), $200 to $450 tip to girl for extras (sample size of 2 Latinas), plus $10-$20 tip to check in person so they leave you the F alone. Didn't get any sign from Vlive check in person that tip was needed. No one came to check on us. Mid session I asked the girl how much longer, it was at least 24 min but she just shrugged it off and let me enjoy the full block. Stop by the restroom if you need a raincoat you can get one from the attendant, just bring your own for cheaper. The rooms are private, but just curtains. That was the annoying thing, at one point the ours opened from someone & didn't close, open view of club below. Later on the the divider opened again by accident into another patron's VIP sesh. Annoying but humorous. Ended the very good session, hugged, cheek kiss and parted. Got a beer sat down to digest. By now the prowling strippers knew I was there to spend. Had another 4-5 girls come up. Declined most. Almost pulled the trigger on this late 20's white girl with a great body & really trying to sell me, but her face didn't do it for me. Across the couch I see younger stacked Latina, solid 8. She was on her phone, so I waved her over. 2 dances, and I was already thinking VIP again. But didn't go further, then I saw ANOTHER young hot Latina. At this point I knew I needed to get out of there.
Pros (vs TT): VIP much cheaper = $270 (door, house, girl) vs $550+ base (valet, door, tip check in, girl fee, including $200 base tip for extra). V was half the price for a slightly hotter girl. Minimal competition from patrons, few of the girls I wanted were claimed the whole time. At TT's I felt like I was waiting for scraps.
Cons (vs TT): For me its 15 min farther than TT, and it sounds like only Sat afternoon is my desired shift since it may get busier, wilder, pricier, and a different shift of girls I'm not interested. TT is going to be my weeknight spot.
Same (vs TT): Both are safe, have a diverse group of patrons (white, black, hispanic, Indian, young to old) so no one really stuck out to me, I probably did. Both have similar range of girls, but TT has no black girls. Both places have about 4-5 girls each that are at least 9's, handfuls of 8's and plenty of plain.
Likely going back in 1-2 weekends. Focus on feeding 2 girls and hopefully get OTC down the road. V is consistent, while TT is boom or bust for me.
Vlive Vivide weeknight shift change
[QUOTE=Mekura;6063762]Just spent the afternoon in Vivide and had a great time. Here's the quick and dirty with some more details at the end.
No valet but safe parking area.
$10 cover (at least in
Talking with one of the dancers, it seemed obvious that the VIP experience has a lot to offer. One lady did offer VIP for $260 but she was the odd one out, everyone else quoted either $60 or $100. VIP had a steady stream of folks going back and forth, though the dancers did all say that it was a pretty quiet night and there wasn't much going on. The floor dances did get pretty intimate, full nude, very handsy, and lots of grinding so whatever's going on in VIP is clearly a step above. The dancers were also all keeping track of the music pretty well. They offers for dances were always want a dance at the start of the next song sort of thing and the DJ wasn't cutting them too short.
Something that I didn't realize was that this isn't what I'd call a strip club in the sense that there's no main stage or pole dancing during the day shift. According to one dancer, they had just installed the pole that was there this week and that while it was perfectly safe, it definitely wobbles because it's only connected at the bottom. So for those who are more interested in sitting at perv row and tipping a few dollars here and there during a dance and admiring the more athletic qualities that these ladies have to offer, you're kind of out of luck. There were a couple of acrobatics, but it only happened once.
Overall it's a definite repeat and lots of fun to be had.[/QUOTE]Great report! Just motivated me to check it out.
Thurs. How long does the quieter day shift with these Latinas last until? I hope it's the same as their Sat afternoon shift.
Vlive / Vivide Thurs afternoon
M 2nd trip to V. Got there 5:30 pm, place was popping. Free parking, only a few normal parking spots left, there's an open gravel patch in the grass that I'm unsure is allowed. No valet. It's still daylight and plenty street traffic along with close-by gentrified areas. Odd sight of intermittent blocks of $700 K new townhouses near abandoned trap houses & crackheads. Place is safe. $10 entry, same door guy as Sat & he's really chill. Inside it's a mix of patrons (young / old, white / black / Hispanic, businessmen / laborers / fuccbois in casual to business wear). I hear evening gets busier, pricier, and aggressive. Today's crowd was just the right amount of busy. Slightly more girls than patrons, only half the patrons were paying so even better ratio for the spending crowd. Maybe 30% of the couch space was taken up by free girls. The girls, the Latinas dominated 70% and AA's 30%, 2 white girls. 20's to 30's, didn't notice any "old" girls this time. Mix of all natural and enhanced. Depending what you like, I feel like there was at least 2-3 really hot girls of each type with the majority being 7's. Music was loud but easy enough to talk with a girl. Dances $10 each and the songs went a little fast. This is okay for me because I just need 1-2 to size up a girl for VIP. Girls are aggressive here, I got about 10 offers and that was while making myself look unavailable as I don't like most of the girls. First dance up, this blonde white girl, slim enhanced body I'd say is a 7. 5-8, but she's got the face of Doogie Howser MD. She remembered me from last weekend. She asks for a drink, which I didn't mean to agree but worked out since it was $10 & got 2 songs from that. She didn't like how many girls were there, she travels and isn't a regular it seemed. Right off the bat she offered VIP, rubbed my fella the entire dance. Got another 2 dances, thought I'd be more excited for this girl. Until I saw HER again. The blonde fit enhanced curvy Cuban, straight up 10/10 for me, from last weekend's VIP. She was working another booth, so I figured the white girl who was in no rush to leave my side so other girls wouldn't come up. I imagine having 1 of the 2 only white girls was a stop sign for the AA's, less so the Latina's. Once she left, these 2 cute young Latina's next to me immediately offered dances but I didn't want to lose my target. Once the Cubana was free, I went straight up. She remembered me, got 1 dance and I was ready for VIP. $60 for house, $200 for girl (CBJ, F&S) and I realize after I didn't pay her for the dance but she didn't say anything. We got a floor VIP room, which I liked since its less foot traffic and more walls than curtains so more privacy. I forgot to bring a watch, so it ended up only 15-20 min of the possible 30 min. Still great time with this chick, her English is not good and my Spanish sucks so I did give her some throwaway Spanish lines in an attempt to build rapport. I didn't go for the phone number since I was still in a happy daze and she says she worked most days so I will try again when she's fresher and its slower. I grabbed a water, I'll stop buying beer since I don't even like or need alcohol. Other posters mentioned just getting water, which is free and gives me something to sip. Went to my old couch space. Same 2 young Latinas there, so I got one from Daniela (based off her necklace) pretty Columbian girl, early 20's all natural, in shape, slim waist and an amazing perky curvy. She had on lingerie, took her top off, grinded very well but with no talking (her English was near non existent) and she didn't use her hands like the Cubana or the blonde so I got a feeling that she & the other young, natural Latinas don't go full VIP. Still a great 2 dances, got full wood even though it was 5 min since finishing VIP. After she left, a couple of the AA girls swooped in aggressively. I wanted to chill and vibe by myself, scope out the other Latinas for dances but kept getting interrupted. So I left, which was the right decision. It was about 7 pm, saw some day shift girls leaving in the parking lot and the lot was 40% empty when it was nearly full at arrival. Overall this is now my reliable & value choice for VIP extras over Tattletales. One interesting chat I overheard was one girl asking another if she was at Follies because she seemed familiar, which the girl said yes.
What's the best quickest and polite way to turn away a girl? While I did complain how at TT I got little attention, at V it kills my vibe for 2-3 min when a girl I have no interest in starts doing the usual intro talk. I don't want to be rude and burn my reputation (it doesn't seem like all the girls talk / like each other, so maybe just be wary of certain cliques), so because I'm nice and say 'no thank you', 'I'm just chilling', they try longer and then get peeved at me when they spent all this time going nowhere. I had a same AA girl from last weekend hassle me again for not wanting a dance from her since I'm AA too. I don't want to do charity dances because I budget for my desired girls and it opens me up to undesired ones. Plus I can't scope out other girls, there were 2 other Latinas I missed out on.
Vlive / Vivide another Sat afternoon
Made my 3rd trip to V, 430 pm on Sat. Place is popping, regular lot is nearly full. Free parking, $10 cover. Ratio is great, plenty of girls (60% Latinas, 35% AA, 5% white) to pick from. The usual mix, a few 9's, handfuls of 8's, and mostly 7's. Booths were just about full so I grabbed a water and posted at the bar. There's this 4 group of young Cubanas at a booth (1 all natural "blonde" I got a dance from last Sat was my target). However they were with 2 older Asian gentlemen, I believe the same ones I waited on last Sat. Likely regulars / big spenders, they seemed friendly with other patrons. I only mention this that the vibe at V may seem intimidating for a newbie like me, but folks are nice or leave you alone. I really wanted this 1 girl, they were with the 2 guys & weren't dancing or talking the whole time, but I didn't want to risk etiquette of approaching. So I waited. There were 4-5 other cute Latinas, but I was committed. A few min I get a surprise tickle from behind from my regular late 20's Cubana. She looks perfect to me, nice smile and friendlier as we had 2 prior VIP sessions. I got 1 dance, we talked limited as our English / Spanish is poor. Considered google translate voice, but it was loud. Got VIP, same deal $60 house / $200 to girl for CBJ, S&F. You can get a raincoat from the bathroom for $5, so bring your own. Amazing session, a little more chemistry. I didn't ask for her number as intended. I was still in a daze, it's loud, took a bit to find all possessions, so I thought she's there every day, low effort, sessions are great, we have a rapport, so it's not needed right now. Not even sure she'd say yes, or even consider OTC. Next session I will. After that, went back to bar & watched that 1st group of Latinas about 30-45 minutes as they sat with their customers. I almost gave up to leave. I got approached a lot less this time. Only 1 Latina came up, don't know if I was claimed by my Cubana or if I'm no longer fresh meat since it's an obvious walk thru the crowd when you get VIP with a girl, I feel like all the other girls take mental notes. I followed other people's advice on how to turn down girls, went from 3 min to now 20 secs. Still got a lot of attitude from the AA girls (I'm AA too) that I wasn't playing for the 'team'. I didn't even talk to any white girls. I have my reasons & I have a set budget my preferences. Finally the 2 guys wrap up, I wait for everyone's business to finish and I swoop in. I get 2 dances ($10 each, songs felt normal length today) from one cute young brunette Latina, plain face and small breasts but a great ass (7/10). Her dances were ok, nice grinding but nothing handy. Immediately after I get my target, early 20's fake blonde Cubana, typical amazing curvy large fit ass, B / C cup natural boobs, cute face (8/10). Her dances wow she brought the thunder. Heavy grinding / twerking, great attitude and showmanship. Let me grope, but she didn't get handsy like she did last Sat. Her English is very poor, so no communication. I got 3 dances in hopes building more rapport. I asked what days she works, she replied "every day". I asked if she does VIP, and that I'd get 1 with her next time. Coincidentally I'll be in Midtown this week, 30 min closer than usual, so I may try a late afternoon with the intent of VIP with her. Possibly being quieter and slower increasing chances for extras. I'm not 100% sure if she does, but she's clearly a favorite of others & gives great full contact dances. If she's letting me grope for $10-$20 on the floor, for VIP price the implication is that there's more. She's hot and a great performer, so worst case I just enjoy the 30 min of privacy with her. I'll hold off OTC attempt until VIP. That would give me a solid 2 girl rotation at V, that's all I need.
Of note, saw this fit, early 50's? Guy in a red polo who I believe is the day time boss / manager? Seemed like a nice guy, he joked with 1 one of the Asian guys and some other regulars. I'm sure I'm nowhere on his radar, but just mentioning to add that its a chill vibe for people concerned about safety. Now the night shift I don't know & not impressed from some reports, so I make sure to bounce by 7 pm, which I believe day shift girls wrap by 830 pm.
Like I've said vs Tattletales, V is a better spot for me. TT's is closer, super chill sports bar but it's heavy competition from regulars / big spenders and more expensive. Their girls will sit with their regulars, with no obvious exchange of money, so I don't understand those arrangements. Maybe they're already an established sugar daddy? TT's barrier to VIP for me was $570 ($10 valet + $20 cover + $300 VIP + $240 minimum to girl) from 2 of their hot Cubanas. Maybe others can negotiate better, or get better from their plainer girls. V is $270 ($10 cover $60 house $200 girl) barrier to VIP with far more reliability. TT's my place for quiet weeknight if I don't feel like driving the extra 15 min from east ATL & only want to have a better white girl or Latinas (no AA's at TT's). I hope these posts are helpful, wanted to contribute.