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[QUOTE=Xina NJ; 1785447]This review from Vette78Man seems to be bogus or he is a very very lucky guy. I went there and it was all legit. They are running 45$ special massage. Here are some indicators on why this seems to be a legit business.
1) The owner has a nice set up. If they were not legit, they wouldn't have spent this much.
2) They have reverese peep holes installed on the door so the mgmt can see what's going on. Again an indication of legit.
3) They don't mind if the customer (s) wait outside in the hall if the masseuse is busy. Again an indication of legit as someone can easily walk and look through reverse peep holes.
4) Their company is registered as Hong's massage which is what shows up when you pay by credit card. Again, an indicaiton of legit.
5) Even the parlors that are not legit, won't just agree to do a topless massage in the very first session without being sure from the LE perspective. They will do the massage and then go with the flow. They don't agree to do the topless massage without feeling for the customer.
So here are my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Vette is not the one who posted the questionable post about Hong, Vette is disputing the questionable post that was written by the person who told us about their topless experience there. I find it hard to believe that it happened as well by the way.
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Athens
Any recent info in or around Athens?
I searched the thread but only saw a brief mention of a Tokyo spa. Is that in Athens? I'm working up there this week. Any spots worth visiting?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Nedster; 1785654]Any recent info in or around Athens?
I searched the thread but only saw a brief mention of a Tokyo spa. Is that in Athens? I'm working up there this week. Any spots worth visiting?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Tokyo is actually in Bogart, GA, just outside of Athens on Commerce Blvd.
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[QUOTE=Romping77;1784598]Jenny is now at H Massage on BH.[/QUOTE]Thank you! BTW, I've seen Angela too and agree that these 2 are the best in the city for therapy.
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You are right.
[QUOTE=Xina NJ; 1785447]This review from Vette78Man seems to be bogus or he is a very very lucky guy. I went there and it was all legit. They are running 45$ special massage. Here are some indicators on why this seems to be a legit business.
1) The owner has a nice set up. If they were not legit, they wouldn't have spent this much.
2) They have reverese peep holes installed on the door so the mgmt can see what's going on. Again an indication of legit.
3) They don't mind if the customer (s) wait outside in the hall if the masseuse is busy. Again an indication of legit as someone can easily walk and look through reverse peep holes.
4) Their company is registered as Hong's massage which is what shows up when you pay by credit card. Again, an indicaiton of legit.
5) Even the parlors that are not legit, won't just agree to do a topless massage in the very first session without being sure from the LE perspective. They will do the massage and then go with the flow. They don't agree to do the topless massage without feeling for the customer.
So here are my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Even I went there yesterday and had Sunny. It was legit. She was liberal with her touching on my back. And on the flip, she was careful about not touching the main part. It was a disappointment because the massage also not that good. Most of the times she was just roaming her hands on my body. I think she is very new, learning how to massage. I will not repeat even if someone says she goes topless for free.
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Sorry. The fake review was from Ddek981 and not Vette78Man. I apologize for the confusion.
[QUOTE=Vette78Man;1784175]No offense, but I think I am going to have to call BS on this review. I don't think there is anyway in hell she is going to do topless, rub them in your face, for an extra $15 on the first visit, and then no HE. I know you are a SM, but I only saw one review in your posts for Toni in Atlanta. And if it is real, other are right, it won't be around long.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1785664]Tokyo is actually in Bogart, GA, just outside of Athens on Commerce Blvd.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nite! Anyone know if FS is available at Fantasy World in Athens? Or is anything more than a lap dance available?
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[QUOTE=Nedster;1785789]Thanks Nite! Anyone know if FS is available at Fantasy World in Athens? Or is anything more than a lap dance available?[/QUOTE]Complete self service.
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[QUOTE=Nedster; 1785654]Any recent info in or around Athens?
I searched the thread but only saw a brief mention of a Tokyo spa. Is that in Athens? I'm working up there this week. Any spots worth visiting?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Check out the Athens board: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3090-Athens[/url]
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[QUOTE=Ddek981;1784549]No BS- it happened. Maybe it's because I really clicked with her. I can speak decent Chinese, been to her hometown in China and we really got along, so I guess she was comfortable with me. I haven't been back yet though, might try again soon.[/QUOTE]I would never say BS to a senior here, because my thinking is that IF someone is going to BS, they will get called on it well before they achieve senior status. But based on my visit this past weekend, I can only surmise that you sir, have much better game than I. Not that this is saying a whole bunch.
Only one girl visible when I went in, but did get the sense that there were two other girls that work there. I was told she was with other customer. The other, I am not sure was working, but if she was, she must have been with other customer too. I never saw the other girls, and only distinctly heard one other female voice. Cost is. 45 per hour for rest of this month. Not sure if I drew the Rose of which you referenced. Typical look, longish hair, minimal paunch, roundish face, but nice smile and friendly attitude. Overall, not bad, better than most AMP ladies, but not particularly striking IMHO. I put her in her mid 40's, not in her 30's. Perhaps she was someone you did not see there? I asked her name and while I had a real hard time understanding her, it did not sound like Rose to me, but I got frustrated after a couple of repeat attempts.
Full draping, put it back on when it somehow slipped off. No teasing, but close enough that some might consider it teasing. Overall, a decent typical Chinese massage. Could hear door opening a lot during massage. To her credit, she never left room. Tangent observation that there did seem to be a guy working there as he kinda just hung around the door as I went in so maybe he helped with the foot traffic as I was getting massaged? On flip, I asked her if anything else was offered. I do NOT get handsy with these girls, but did do enough pointing and made enough jokes that the she understood my question. She shook her head no and kept right on with massage. No "next time", no offer for me to DIY, just a polite head shake and "no."
For legit massage. She was okay. Not as good as Angela at Hong on JC or Heather at Harmony on BH, but at least as good as others I have seen. In fact, I will most likely go back especially at their June special which is very good for that area.
Some on this board may think I am taking issue with your initial review; that is NOT the case. There used to be a massage place on JC where everyone said no extras were ever available, but I had an entirely different experience there that became a regular thing for me. Conversely, I was a couple of visits behind everyone else on getting anywhere at the old Balanced Healthcare. So my advice to you is to enjoy your extras, and consider yourself to be a special customer of theirs. Everyone else can make up their own minds, but imo, at best this is a YMMV place and at worst, a well-priced legit parlor.
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[QUOTE=Fengzi;1785725]Thank you! BTW, I've seen Angela too and agree that these 2 are the best in the city for therapy.[/QUOTE]Heather is still at H, right? I thought Jenny used to be at H and left over a year ago. You suggested I see her and I never got around to it. Is this the same Jenny we discussed last summer? PM if you prefer. Thanks.
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Hong Massage In Buford
Not trying to beat a dead horse or anything. But, I went to Hongs Massage on Saturday night and met Sunny and it was totally legit. Price was Forty Five Dollars. She gave a nice massage, maybe 6 out of 10 on a legit scale. I was draped for the entire massage and in so many words ask if there was anything else on the menu. She politely shook her head no. So I guess the guy that got the topless and everything needs to put out a tutorial DVD for us to learn from.
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Its Always Possible
[QUOTE=NinjaNomics;1786090]Not trying to beat a dead horse or anything. But, I went to Hongs Massage on Saturday night and met Sunny and it was totally legit. Price was Forty Five Dollars. She gave a nice massage, maybe 6 out of 10 on a legit scale. I was draped for the entire massage and in so many words ask if there was anything else on the menu. She politely shook her head no. So I guess the guy that got the topless and everything needs to put out a tutorial DVD for us to learn from.[/QUOTE]I think we should all recognize that special things can happen, if the stars align.
Another monger a few months ago reported a really great experience at Hot Stone on BH lasting two hours, at a place typically not known for FS at the time.
Yet on another occasion, a report was filed for a special time at Royal with a gal named Annie, who was gone shortly there after.
Me myself, I recently was up at a place in Cumming which is typically a no-extras AMP and something clicked between me and the gal (first time she had ever seen me) and she was just in to it completely. DFK and about as close to FS as you might imagine without her getting on the table with me.
I do appreciate, however, that at the center of this controversy is Sunny who seems to be more well known than my other examples.
Anything is possible one time IMHO. Just sayin'
T59
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[QUOTE=Tiger59; 1786388]I think we should all recognize that special things can happen, if the stars align.
Another monger a few months ago reported a really great experience at Hot Stone on BH lasting two hours, at a place typically not known for FS at the time.
Yet on another occasion, a report was filed for a special time at Royal with a gal named Annie, who was gone shortly there after.
Me myself, I recently was up at a place in Cumming which is typically a no-extras AMP and something clicked between me and the gal (first time she had ever seen me) and she was just in to it completely. DFK and about as close to FS as you might imagine without her getting on the table with me.
I do appreciate, however, that at the center of this controversy is Sunny who seems to be more well known than my other examples.
Anything is possible one time IMHO. Just sayin'
T59[/QUOTE]Good synopsis. Have to differ on one small thing: Bally Hot Stone on Buford Hwy has always been FS. Most of the women have been old but they've gotten an occasional hottie.
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Something special.
Do I believe the shirt was off and on the floor. No. Do I think he was up the shirt and had it 1/2 off with good UTC. Sure. Why not. Either way, I agree with most of the comments on "clicking." I have had several things click for me over the years but I have always held the great stuff close to the vest and I believe most people do the same. Who wouldn't when you spend as much money hunting as we do. What's more, who wants a gal you clicked with to get caught up with fat Uncle Leo.
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Q in Kennesaw
I have not see ads and I called today and no answer. Is it closed?
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Evergreen
Stopped by this nice home in Rosewell. Discreet parking in the back. Very homey atmosphere. Mamasan polite. I got Anna but was hoping to get Rose based on reports. Anna is pretty, looks early 40s, nice figure and a big smile. A really good back walk massage. I did like her and I liked her looks. She had the most perfect looking small natural breasts. The only negatives were I though she asked too many questions and she was not as tight as I expected. But the deed was done and there was no rush. I would return but would try someone different. Don't get me wrong, Anna is a great gal, I just think I might have better chemistry with someone else.
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1778754]Since you were at K, it might have been worthwhile to hit up Bally, Royal and Sakura since they're all in the same area. Second, if you wanted to fuck the mamasan at Tokyo, you should have asked her. Turn on the charm and see how it goes. Most will reject such a request but I've banged a few in my time.[/QUOTE]Hmm, I've tried many times with Lisa from Royal, and she always said no, and teased me like it may be yes later on. Well, maybe the 11th time I flirted with her and asked, I think she was tired of saying no. But said it anyway. Was kinda of funny, but it made me stop asking.
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Locations for two Legits
[QUOTE=Amp Fme;1785925]Heather is still at H, right? I thought Jenny used to be at H and left over a year ago. You suggested I see her and I never got around to it. Is this the same Jenny we discussed last summer? PM if you prefer. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Regarding whereabouts of two legit though quality massagers:
Heather is at Harmony (lives with owner)
Jenny was at H, left, then was at Harmony for a while, and is now back at H.
Romping
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[QUOTE=Guapo Marx;1787200]I have not see ads and I called today and no answer. Is it closed?[/QUOTE]Yes, LE nailed them.
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[QUOTE=Anthony Planet;1787297]Hmm, I've tried many times with Lisa from Royal, and she always said no, and teased me like it may be yes later on. Well, maybe the 11th time I flirted with her and asked, I think she was tired of saying no. But said it anyway. Was kinda of funny, but it made me stop asking.[/QUOTE]As I said, many mamasans will reject such a request, especially the prettier ones, but a few will relent. It never hurts to ask.
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For what it's worth.
I have no opinion about what did or didn't happen at the AMP. AMP's aren't my thing. What is clear to me as I've become more active in following the forum is that the threshold for becoming a SM is too low. It's doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine whose contributions are good, iffy, or just plain BS. IMHO it's more about the content and less about level of membership.
AV
[QUOTE=AMP Fme; 1785924]I would never say BS to a senior here, because my thinking is that IF someone is going to BS, they will get called on it well before they achieve senior status. But based on my visit this past weekend, I can only surmise that you sir, have much better game than I. Not that this is saying a whole bunch.
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Heather at Harmony
[QUOTE=Romping77; 1787449]Regarding whereabouts of two legit though quality massagers:
Heather is at Harmony (lives with owner)
Jenny was at H, left, then was at Harmony for a while, and is now back at H.
Romping[/QUOTE]Actually, Heather is the owner of Harmony, Mark lives in her house. She won't marry him because she has all the coin!
She is more than she appears.
NP
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COCO massage
Does anybody have any info on COCO massage & spa on Canton Road. In Marietta. Whent there the other day I got a good massage but nothing extra. She might have hinted at but I wasn't sure. Anyone have better luck there?
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You would be surprised how many of them actually more than they appear. It is very eye opening.
[QUOTE=NotParticular; 1787536]Actually, Heather is the owner of Harmony, Mark lives in her house. She won't marry him because she has all the coin!
She is more than she appears.
NP[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Guapo Marx;1787216]Stopped by this nice home in Rosewell. Discreet parking in the back. Very homey atmosphere. Mamasan polite. I got Anna but was hoping to get Rose based on reports. Anna is pretty, looks early 40s, nice figure and a big smile. A really good back walk massage. I did like her and I liked her looks. She had the most perfect looking small natural breasts. The only negatives were I though she asked too many questions and she was not as tight as I expected. But the deed was done and there was no rush. I would return but would try someone different. Don't get me wrong, Anna is a great gal, I just think I might have better chemistry with someone else.[/QUOTE]What did kind of turn me off were all the questions. Where are you from? Whats your job? Are you working today? Where are you going from here? Have you been here before? Who did you see here before? I was really stressed out and just wanted a shower, massage, and a release. She joked around a lot in the shower, trying to give a jack rabbit HJ. She was jack rabbit everything. HJ, BJ, cow girl. Maybe next time I won't be so stressed, I will be more up front with just telling her no talking, and telling her no jackrabbit. She also insisted on 20 more above usual market price and it seems having that conversation usually takes an inch off my dick.
I'm going to go back because I like the suburban home atmosphere and the cleanliness.
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[QUOTE=Vette78Man;1787762]You would be surprised how many of them actually more than they appear. It is very eye opening.[/QUOTE]Vette.
Could not agree more!
NP
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T Massage
Got Cindy again. She seems more familiar with me now but at this point I think she is a big tease. If anyone knows differently please let me know. There is another girl there who she said is her roommate. Name is Alice, might give that a go.
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[QUOTE=Adam Vb; 1787510]I have no opinion about what did or didn't happen at the AMP. AMP's aren't my thing. What is clear to me as I've become more active in following the forum is that the threshold for becoming a SM is too low. It's doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine whose contributions are good, iffy, or just plain BS. IMHO it's more about the content and less about level of membership.
AV.
[QUOTE=AMP Fme; 1785924]I would never say BS to a senior here, because my thinking is that IF someone is going to BS, they will get called on it well before they achieve senior status. But based on my visit this past weekend, I can only surmise that you sir, have much better game than I. Not that this is saying a whole bunch.[/QUOTE]Yeah the only thing Senior does mean is you didn't create your account last week. I'm not sure what the actual formula is for gaining Senior status is it has some quantity of post component and a time-based component. Meaning even if your went around doing a ton of post within a very short period of time it would not give you Senior status. Where that has some value, IMO, is in vetting for LE. Certainly not a perfect vetting mechanism (& don't blindly rely on it) , but MOST jurisdictions don't plan 3 months out and start building message board personas.
All that said, Senior has absolutely nothing to do with quality.
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[QUOTE=NotParticular; 1787536]Actually, Heather is the owner of Harmony, Mark lives in her house. She won't marry him because she has all the coin!
She is more than she appears.
NP[/QUOTE]First time I heard of the matrimony rejection issue, I was surprised. I mean, although Heather has a rather bubbly personality, she's no prize catch by any stretch. Mark seems like an OK guy, so why the hell would she refuse to marry him? If she's afraid he's not bringing enough into the relationship, such as money, why do they even live together? Perhaps Mark is happy drilling her pussy or maybe he hopes she'll marry him someday. Personally, I feel sorry for any guy who gets caught up in the drama of yearning for a long-term relationship with a provider, even a massage girl. If I were Mark, I'd get my ass over to the Philippines or Thailand and fuck some quality pussy, then return to the States and take a serious look at my female roomie.
So many of these less-than-stellar Chinese women, who would have no life in China, come over here and get spoiled quick. I see so many massage girls driving luxury-brand vehicles and still complaining their vehicle isn't good enough. In China their ass would be eking out a meager living and they'd be riding the subway.
Bottom line: Don't get emotionally involved with a provider. It's a recipe for disaster.
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[QUOTE=Vette78Man;1787762]You would be surprised how many of them actually more than they appear. It is very eye opening.[/QUOTE]Anna at Healing Touch is a perfect example of that!
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It amazes me why some of these Chinese women come to America. Many of them are successful in China and they leave, what sounds like good jobs and family, to come here and struggle with language and culture and a work schedule most Americans wouldn't take. The work they do here is below their station in China. My assumption is that many of them are very frugal, with the exception of their autos, saving their $. Of course, just like most women I've met in my life, they are looking for a LTR. The ones I have built relationships with have been businesswomen / managers, nurses, pharmacists, etc. Working at massage stores. A few have had lower stations in China in their work, but not many.
Some claim to have a great deal of investment and multiple homes.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1788091]Anna at Healing Touch is a perfect example of that![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Andy1; 1788280]It amazes me why some of these Chinese women come to America. Many of them are successful in China and they leave, what sounds like good jobs and family, to come here and struggle with language and culture and a work schedule most Americans wouldn't take. The work they do here is below their station in China. My assumption is that many of them are very frugal, with the exception of their autos, saving their $. Of course, just like most women I've met in my life, they are looking for a LTR. The ones I have built relationships with have been businesswomen / managers, nurses, pharmacists, etc. Working at massage stores. A few have had lower stations in China in their work, but not many.
Some claim to have a great deal of investment and multiple homes.[/QUOTE]Take all that with a grain of salt.
Most people that are insecure or ashamed about what they do, lie.
Remember the bumper sticker on late model Ford Festivas or similar,"Buy other car is a Porsche"
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[QUOTE=Steak 404; 1788069]
[QUOTE=Adam Vb; 1787510]I have no opinion about what did or didn't happen at the AMP. AMP's aren't my thing. What is clear to me as I've become more active in following the forum is that the threshold for becoming a SM is too low. It's doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine whose contributions are good, iffy, or just plain BS. IMHO it's more about the content and less about level of membership.
AV.
Yeah the only thing Senior does mean is you didn't create your account last week. I'm not sure what the actual formula is for gaining Senior status is it has some quantity of post component and a time-based component. Meaning even if your went around doing a ton of post within a very short period of time it would not give you Senior status. Where that has some value, IMO, is in vetting for LE. Certainly not a perfect vetting mechanism (& don't blindly rely on it) , but MOST jurisdictions don't plan 3 months out and start building message board personas.
All that said, Senior has absolutely nothing to do with quality.[/QUOTE] .[/QUOTE] I know that I wrote it, but good grief, I would appreciate if you gents would stop quoting the line I posted about my not having game. I was trying to be nice, not prophetic.
Actually, this is follow up to my previous post about Hong. Went back since first time the massage was above average for me and I still can't figure out the name of who I saw. Besides, I was still just a little curious about the place. This time, I met Rosa, not Rose. Rosa was not the lady I saw the first time. Rosa acted like she was the manager as she said she had two, sometimes three other ladies working there. She also handled the phones, even during my massage which is a pet peeve. She either did not understand my question or was just ignoring, because she would not name any of the other ladies. Massage was way too rough for my tastes. Big difference between firm, hard and mauling. Guys looking for a very hard, legit massage, she is your gal.
I have no further intention of going back, especially since a couple of you gentlemen were kind enough to post or PM better alternatives for legit massages, ie, Jenny, Heather, Angela. Thanks for that.
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[QUOTE=Andy1; 1788280]It amazes me why some of these Chinese women come to America. Many of them are successful in China and they leave, what sounds like good jobs and family, to come here and struggle with language and culture and a work schedule most Americans wouldn't take. The work they do here is below their station in China. My assumption is that many of them are very frugal, with the exception of their autos, saving their $. Of course, just like most women I've met in my life, they are looking for a LTR. The ones I have built relationships with have been businesswomen / managers, nurses, pharmacists, etc. Working at massage stores. A few have had lower stations in China in their work, but not many.
Some claim to have a great deal of investment and multiple homes.[/QUOTE]Well, you might know their personal lives better than I do, but I know a lot of them are single moms. Most single moms in China struggle, especially those 40-ish as no Chinese guy will ever want them again. I honestly can't believe that most of them had a better life in China.
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Imho
It's really hard to lump everyone in the same bucket. You do have the ones that Nite explains 40 yr divorced mom but also have the young single college aged girls like Cindy at T. To understand either one must understand their culture and thier language. As I stated before I speak fluent Chinese so I have had occasison to date several thearpists over the years and get to know many details the average monger might not. One thing I will say is that something like 80% of these ladies are from Shenyang pronounced (shenyoung) Its in Northern China (extremely cold). If you ever want to go to monger heaven this is where it is. LOL. On another note, I dated at gal who had her own (mostly) legit shop in Miami. She had about 3 gals working for her and did approx $10k a week in business, not bad with overhead only $50k. Its always a 50/50 split with the house and the girls keep 100% of the tips. Whats more, lets just say the phrase "reporting tips" to the govt doesn't translate well " LOL. Anyway, my main point is that while many of the girls can earn a good living $40. $50k a year on average (many are much less) , most are not getting rich but can do ok. Look, they live together, don't eat out much and only spend their money on luxury goods that can be seen. The expensive car, burberry purse, etc. They come here just like any other immigrant for a better life. No different than the Mexican, the African born Black or the korean. They all want people to see that they have made it and are different from the crowd. Somehting we all strive for I suppose.
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T Massage
[QUOTE=Benargen;1788049]Got Cindy again. She seems more familiar with me now but at this point I think she is a big tease. If anyone knows differently please let me know. There is another girl there who she said is her roommate. Name is Alice, might give that a go.[/QUOTE]Cindy is definitely a big tease. She's young, cute, and has a great body, and uses light touch around your upper legs to make you think something can happen. But in my experience it won't. She refuses to let me touch her at all and will only allow DIY while she continues the light touch on your legs. Then will say "it's only for you, no one else". If jerking off in front of a cute young thing does it for you, then she's good. Of course, YMMV.
Marco
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[QUOTE=Benargen;1788049]Got Cindy again. She seems more familiar with me now but at this point I think she is a big tease. If anyone knows differently please let me know. There is another girl there who she said is her roommate. Name is Alice, might give that a go.[/QUOTE]Those college girls at T Massage are a tease and a joke. They are friendly but not professionall. They hang out with their guy friends outside if no one is there and flirt around. Watching their behavior is disheartening. Some of the guys sneak in there with them like its a game. They are all asian. Vietnamese I think. DIY is all you will get there.
Even if you persist, it still gets knocked down to DIY. But, I tell you. There us better to be had. Don't just fall for the experience because they are young.
However I would like to know of a massage place with better looking women. Getting tired of the same ol run around.
You were right to say they wouldn't be anything special in their country.
BigK
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[QUOTE=Marco19; 1788573]Cindy is definitely a big tease. She's young, cute, and has a great body, and uses light touch around your upper legs to make you think something can happen. But in my experience it won't. She refuses to let me touch her at all and will only allow DIY while she continues the light touch on your legs. Then will say "it's only for you, no one else". If jerking off in front of a cute young thing does it for you, then she's good. Of course, YMMV.
Marco[/QUOTE]I Agree but I have however gotten her to allow some very good roaming. You just need to keep trying and tip well. I throw at least a Jackson. Since she wears shorts I have even gotten utc a couple of times but no fiv, and still no HE, only an assisit (which was nice). She got pissed at me the other day so I am not sure I will go back. I told her she should try smiling with her mouth closed and that guys would like her more. I will say this, she is motivated by money.
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Some new stuff
So I ventured to H and drew Vicky. Young maybe 28. A 6 in looks. No tease no he. Also was here the other day and drew Ala. With a long A sound. Maybe 25. Nice body. I give a 7. No tease no nothing. I have not been impressed with this place in awhile. I like younger girls and they don't seem very good here. If people know otherwise please let me know. I also went to a Foot place up the road same side. If anyone has intel can you please pm me. Thanks