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[QUOTE=LoveAddict; 1739714]I guess what I don't understand is this; If she would have given me the time of my life, I'd have seen her repeatedly, maybe even made her my ATF if she were good enough. Yeah she got my $60 and $30 in groceries but, she sure isn't living like Paris Hilton so, knowing that she'd never get anything else from me, and knowing that I'd most likely inform others, why would she want to bite the hand that feeds her?

I'm not sure I'd agree that all of them would dislike me and don't respect me, because I have developed some friendships with these types of ladies over the years. I always treat them with respect and am a total gentleman with them. I don't judge them either. Yeah, I wouldn't want my daughters (if I had any) or sisters living like that, but they're still ladies as far as I'm concerned. I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why I go out of my way to be nice to people and get shit on so many times, and I'm talking about life and situations in general, not just with regards to SW's.[/QUOTE]Because nice guys finish last! . Do not let anyone take advantage of you, people must see you as a easy target it is ok to say no somtimes! Then people will respect you and won't try and take advantage of you! And if they can't respect that then their not a person you should won't to be around anyways. You need to have a "I don't give a fuck type attitude ".

One of the biggest mistakes you can make is being nice to these girls by doing extra shit like money advancements, buying groceries givining them rides is that there going to be nice to you there not. No matter what man, don't try and save her. Don't try and reform her, you just going to end up looking stupid. Stop trying to save providers that don't want to be saved and that don't want you trying to make them into something they are not. Here they have been living in poverty and in a rough ass neighborhood all their life 18, 19, 20 years, now here come your simple ass thinking that if only she tried harder, or took more responsibility, or if she just had more financial help, or went to church you could turn her around. Don't be a fool, she has been programmed to be what she is, it took her decades to become that irresponsible buck wild chick, and now you going to just come along and reprogram her and make her a model citizen? I don't think so. Let a provider be a provider! I'm not calling all the ladies I fuck with XXXX, just some of them, and they know who they are. So you was warned, don't get caught up thinking you going to make her Miss Betty Crocker. Just keep this shit bizness and you'll be just fine. The minute you go and try and make one of them your friend or thinking yall friends you will be used and disappointed. Be careful!

P. S I know there all ways exception to the rules and some out there might really like you. BUT! If you keep this mind state first you will not get played by the ones that is trying to get over on you.

D. S

[QUOTE=Jackaloper; 1739794]Age old question! Why do I get shit on if I am such a "nice" guy. Here's some required reading:

[url]http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml[/url]

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/marcia-sirota/too-nice_b_946956.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks Jack. Definitely some food for thought.

[QUOTE=LoveAddict;1739954]Thanks Jack. Definitely some food for thought.[/QUOTE]A woman never respects a man buying her pussy. To her you are just another pussy hungry trick who is too weak to get pussy without buying it. They will say anything to you and fake like they are having a good time. They can fake like they are cumming and scream like your dick is killing them. They are very good actresses. I don't believe any of that shit. This one hottie is always telling me that she loves me. Bullshit. If this was true, she would be fucking me for free. Never let your guard down and get pussy whipped.
Its easy to do because we are fucking these hard body young women and they are telling us pot bellied old dudes how much they are into us. All this is bullshit. Good to hear when you are fucking but its a fantasy. This one girl always tells me that her pussy belongs to me. That I am the only one who eats her pussy. She opens her fine legs up and tells me that this is your pussy daddy. Nice too hear when you are stroking that pussy but its not true and I forget it when I leave.

WELL SAID 4201 ! ! ! The wisdom that comes with age. Could not have put it better myself.

[QUOTE=Member #4201; 1739993]A woman never respects a man buying her pussy. To her you are just another pussy hungry trick who is too weak to get pussy without buying it. They will say anything to you and fake like they are having a good time. They can fake like they are cumming and scream like your dick is killing them. They are very good actresses. I don't believe any of that shit. This one hottie is always telling me that she loves me. Bullshit. If this was true, she would be fucking me for free. Never let your guard down and get pussy whipped.

Its easy to do because we are fucking these hard body young women and they are telling us pot bellied old dudes how much they are into us. All this is bullshit. Good to hear when you are fucking but its a fantasy. This one girl always tells me that her pussy belongs to me. That I am the only one who eats her pussy. She opens her fine legs up and tells me that this is your pussy daddy. Nice too hear when you are stroking that pussy but its not true and I forget it when I leave.[/QUOTE]I may not get anything for free but I've gotten an hour from some girls when I only paid for 30 min. Wouldn't that indicate that a girl likes me?

[QUOTE=LoveAddict;1740349]I may not get anything for free but I've gotten an hour from some girls when I only paid for 30 min. Wouldn't that indicate that a girl likes me?[/QUOTE]You need to read those articles in the links from Jackaloper again. If you are overly concerned with how much people like you, you have issues. It's a business relationship. I treat people respectfully and I expect to be treated with respect in return. But I don't give a shit whether a provider likes me as long as she fucks my brains out.

Part of respect to me is respecting a provider's time. With rare exceptions I do not overstay my time. If I pay for a half hour I don't stay longer. Some providers may be too nice to kick your sorry ass out and if you stay longer than you've paid for you are not respecting her.

[QUOTE=LoveAddict;1740349]I may not get anything for free but I've gotten an hour from some girls when I only paid for 30 min. Wouldn't that indicate that a girl likes me?[/QUOTE]If you knew this at the time, then you should have paid her for the extra time. You probably did not leave her a tip. Fucking for a living is not easy.

[QUOTE=Lonelyguy128; 1740377]You need to read those articles in the links from Jackaloper again. If you are overly concerned with how much people like you, you have issues. It's a business relationship. I treat people respectfully and I expect to be treated with respect in return. But I don't give a shit whether a provider likes me as long as she fucks my brains out.

Part of respect to me is respecting a provider's time. With rare exceptions I do not overstay my time. If I pay for a half hour I don't stay longer. Some providers may be too nice to kick your sorry ass out and if you stay longer than you've paid for you are not respecting her.[/QUOTE]All good points. A provider might very well like you. I've had my share of those who sure seemed to like me. Sent me love letters, stalked me, given it to me for free at times. Providers are women with feelings like all women. They want to feel needed, wanted, protected, respected, affection, and safety and understanding. You provide them with some of those and they will develop some feelings for you. Money, thats a no brainer, that gets their attention. Showing some interest in what she is interested in, giving her some affection, like a back rub or just cuddling with her afterwards. Most of these women had no dad around and if they did she had to blow him. These girls have daddy issues and down deep want a dad. A few years ago I used to hang out in the psych area waiting rooms looking for girls with eating disorders because I just like the spinners. Most of these girls had real issues and nearly every one of them was fatherless. Showing the right kind of attention, affection, and interest, I practically had them jumping into the sack. Making a women feel safe, secure and protected in your company goes a long way. These lessons oddly apply to all women not just providers. Before Facebook started charging $1 for messages, it was one of my main recruiting methods, searching out recently divorced women. They were highly emotionally needy and were easy marks. I'd just let them talk, and talk and talk, and get it all out. When they were finally finished talking their legs spread open like the gates to Six Flags.

Probably 80-90% of the providers we encounter is because they have drug problems (SWs, BP, CL). Perhaps 10% its just financial (Naughty Reviews, Strippers) , and maybe 5% is because they are simply sex addicts (sexy mom and a few CMTs) themselves and are just cashing in on their own sickness. The AMP girls are a whole different world. All of them have basic emotional needs. A lot of us have had some long term providers and we have gotten close to them. They almost became like family. A long term provider is usually drug free. One of my AMPs gals told that some of her customers get to clingly, come too often, bring gifts. She has been a provider for nearly 40 years and her spa is like a second family to some of the guys. Whether is be a SW, escort, stripper, AMP girl, you are a sucker to develop feelings for one of them. They will use you until you have nothing left. Whats really funny is I've had some providers tell me about their loser boyfriends who they support, give money too, and such. Wow, yet when they come over, I give them money, compliment them, show interest, give affection, etc. Usually my providers are eager to come back and don't rush off quickly. I can tell that often times my house is almost like a retreat from their real life. For the most part I don't bring over hard core addicts. Sure I've had a few but as a general rule, you take the addict to the no-tels.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty; 1740516]All good points. A provider might very well like you. I've had my share of those who sure seemed to like me. Sent me love letters, stalked me, given it to me for free at times. Providers are women with feelings like all women. They want to feel needed, wanted, protected, respected, affection, and safety and understanding. You provide them with some of those and they will develop some feelings for you. Money, thats a no brainer, that gets their attention. Showing some interest in what she is interested in, giving her some affection, like a back rub or just cuddling with her afterwards. Most of these women had no dad around and if they did she had to blow him. These girls have daddy issues and down deep want a dad. A few years ago I used to hang out in the psych area waiting rooms looking for girls with eating disorders because I just like the spinners. Most of these girls had real issues and nearly every one of them was fatherless. Showing the right kind of attention, affection, and interest, I practically had them jumping into the sack. Making a women feel safe, secure and protected in your company goes a long way. These lessons oddly apply to all women not just providers. Before Facebook started charging $1 for messages, it was one of my main recruiting methods, searching out recently divorced women. They were highly emotionally needy and were easy marks. I'd just let them talk, and talk and talk, and get it all out. When they were finally finished talking their legs spread open like the gates to Six Flags.

Probably 80-90% of the providers we encounter is because they have drug problems (SWs, BP, CL). Perhaps 10% its just financial (Naughty Reviews, Strippers) , and maybe 5% is because they are simply sex addicts (sexy mom and a few CMTs) themselves and are just cashing in on their own sickness. The AMP girls are a whole different world. All of them have basic emotional needs. A lot of us have had some long term providers and we have gotten close to them. They almost became like family. A long term provider is usually drug free. One of my AMPs gals told that some of her customers get to clingly, come too often, bring gifts. She has been a provider for nearly 40 years and her spa is like a second family to some of the guys. Whether is be a SW, escort, stripper, AMP girl, you are a sucker to develop feelings for one of them. They will use you until you have nothing left. Whats really funny is I've had some providers tell me about their loser boyfriends who they support, give money too, and such. Wow, yet when they come over, I give them money, compliment them, show interest, give affection, etc. Usually my providers are eager to come back and don't rush off quickly. I can tell that often times my house is almost like a retreat from their real life. For the most part I don't bring over hard core addicts. Sure I've had a few but as a general rule, you take the addict to the no-tels.[/QUOTE]Awhile ago I posted about arrangementfinders, how it was a waste of time and money. (It's $79 a month or you can do a three month $149 membership) it's expensive, but I'm happy to report that it did pay off for me. I ended up finding a very hot, AA, UTR girl. The first time we met it was just a dinner date. Next date CFS at a hotel in my area, I'd have to say it was some of the best lovin' I've ever had by the way. Total GFE, and I'd be very surprised if she was faking anything.

I googled her phone number and did a Tineye on her pics, and it looks as though she is indeed UTR. If she is escorting, I'm definetely not aware of it. She did tell me that she has one other sugardaddy. Should I consider this a business relationship, or is this more of a girlfriend relationship? I know there are some gray areas, and I'm sure many marriages and relationships are based on money, indeed my ex wife divorced me because I couldn't find a good enough job for her in a shitty economy, and all of her problems were always my fault.

Anyway, should a UTR girl be considered the same as an escort?

Interested in your thoughts on this Lefty, and others.

LA

[QUOTE=LoveAddict; 1740531]Awhile ago I posted about arrangementfinders, how it was a waste of time and money. (It's $79 a month or you can do a three month $149 membership) it's expensive, but I'm happy to report that it did pay off for me. I ended up finding a very hot, AA, UTR girl. The first time we met it was just a dinner date. Next date CFS at a hotel in my area, I'd have to say it was some of the best lovin' I've ever had by the way. Total GFE, and I'd be very surprised if she was faking anything.

I googled her phone number and did a Tineye on her pics, and it looks as though she is indeed UTR. If she is escorting, I'm definetely not aware of it. She did tell me that she has one other sugardaddy. Should I consider this a business relationship, or is this more of a girlfriend relationship? I know there are some gray areas, and I'm sure many marriages and relationships are based on money, indeed my ex wife divorced me because I couldn't find a good enough job for her in a shitty economy, and all of her problems were always my fault.

Anyway, should a UTR girl be considered the same as an escort?

Interested in your thoughts on this Lefty, and others.

LA[/QUOTE]You are a customer! THEY HAVE NO FEELINGS FOR YOU AT ALL! NONE, NADA, NOPE!

They are jaus a wh0re you are renting pussy from. Believe me, I know. I fell for a provider. 6years, did everything for her. Guess what, when I lost my income she was gone, didn't have the time of day for me. I learned the hard way. My take on anyone with a pussy is they are all just wh0res'. EXPECIALLY IF THEY ARE ON ONE OF THE SITES YOU MENTION. YOU ARE ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO THESE WOMEN. ACCEPT THE FACTS.

[QUOTE=Oldfatuglyguy; 1740590]You are a customer! THEY HAVE NO FEELINGS FOR YOU AT ALL! NONE, NADA, NOPE!

They are jaus a wh0re you are renting pussy from. Believe me, I know. I fell for a provider. 6years, did everything for her. Guess what, when I lost my income she was gone, didn't have the time of day for me. I learned the hard way. My take on anyone with a pussy is they are all just wh0res'. EXPECIALLY IF THEY ARE ON ONE OF THE SITES YOU MENTION. YOU ARE ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO THESE WOMEN. ACCEPT THE FACTS.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 100 Million percent! As long as you have Money, a Hooker will see you! This even applies to "Regular Girls" too! Heck any Girl for that matter! LOL!

Dude, I have a life time membership on Sugar Daddy and I have had numerous relationships with hot women. They don't give a damn about you, its just your money. For example, I have been fucking a hot number for about four months. She says that she loves me, that her pussy is all mine. I don't believe that crap for one moment. Last week she text me and said that she needed $ to pay her light bill. I told her that she would have to fuck for 2 hours. She got a room, probably using it to fuck multiple dudes. After we completed our fucking this heffer had the nerve to complain that I did not give her enough, that the $$$ I gave her was for her light bill, and get this, she needed something for herself. I got up and walked right out of the room, hit the elevator and headed for my car, never looked back. She ran out and profusely apologized. Yes, she is hot and I am going to miss fucking her tight little ass but I don't need drama and this is a sign that more drama is right down the road. My advice to you is to leave these arrangements and sugar daddy relationships alone. You will pay more money in the long run for the same pussy. These arrangement / sugar daddy babes want more money for the same pussy you can get from an escort at a lower price. The relationships start off wonderful but after a short while its just like you have a wife or girl friend. The best thing to do is to fuck them and go home, no strings attached. One more thing, I had an arrangement with a girl who called herself Cream. I met with her once a week and later found out she was a BP girl and I was paying mo for the pussy. She refused to see me as a BP escort cause I would pay mo as a sugar daddy. So some of these arrangements and sugar daddy babes are escorts searching for a new angle to get money. I see a lot of girls on both sugar daddy and BP.

[QUOTE=LoveAddict; 1740531]Awhile ago I posted about arrangementfinders, how it was a waste of time and money. (It's $79 a month or you can do a three month $149 membership) it's expensive, but I'm happy to report that it did pay off for me. I ended up finding a very hot, AA, UTR girl. The first time we met it was just a dinner date. Next date CFS at a hotel in my area, I'd have to say it was some of the best lovin' I've ever had by the way. Total GFE, and I'd be very surprised if she was faking anything.

I googled her phone number and did a Tineye on her pics, and it looks as though she is indeed UTR. If she is escorting, I'm definetely not aware of it. She did tell me that she has one other sugardaddy. Should I consider this a business relationship, or is this more of a girlfriend relationship? I know there are some gray areas, and I'm sure many marriages and relationships are based on money, indeed my ex wife divorced me because I couldn't find a good enough job for her in a shitty economy, and all of her problems were always my fault.

Anyway, should a UTR girl be considered the same as an escort?

Interested in your thoughts on this Lefty, and others.

LA[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member #4201;1740879]Dude, I have a life time membership on Sugar Daddy and I have had numerous relationships with hot women. They don't give a damn about you, its just your money. For example, I have been fucking a hot number for about four months. She says that she loves me, that her pussy is all mine. I don't believe that crap for one moment. Last week she text me and said that she needed $ to pay her light bill. I told her that she would have to fuck for 2 hours. She got a room, probably using it to fuck multiple dudes. After we completed our fucking this heffer had the nerve to complain that I did not give her enough, that the $$$ I gave her was for her light bill, and get this, she needed something for herself. I got up and walked right out of the room, hit the elevator and headed for my car, never looked back. She ran out and profusely apologized. Yes, she is hot and I am going to miss fucking her tight little ass but I don't need drama and this is a sign that more drama is right down the road. My advice to you is to leave these arrangements and sugar daddy relationships alone. You will pay more money in the long run for the same pussy. These arrangement / sugar daddy babes want more money for the same pussy you can get from an escort at a lower price. The relationships start off wonderful but after a short while its just like you have a wife or girl friend. The best thing to do is to fuck them and go home, no strings attached. One more thing, I had an arrangement with a girl who called herself Cream. I met with her once a week and later found out she was a BP girl and I was paying mo for the pussy. She refused to see me as a BP escort cause I would pay mo as a sugar daddy. So some of these arrangements and sugar daddy babes are escorts searching for a new angle to get money. I see a lot of girls on both sugar daddy and BP.[/QUOTE]Hell, if I could fine a late 20's / early thirties gal who's hot looking, no kids, who happens to be a JD, MD, PHD, CPA, or even RN, where she doesn't need or expect money from me, I wouldn't be messing around with arrangement finders or BP. It may be unrealistic, but I've seen it happen to guys that make me look like a sex symbol.

[QUOTE=LoveAddict;1740899]Hell, if I could fine a late 20's / early thirties gal who's hot looking, no kids, who happens to be a JD, MD, PHD, CPA, or even RN, where she doesn't need or expect money from me, I wouldn't be messing around with arrangement finders or BP. It may be unrealistic, but I've seen it happen to guys that make me look like a sex symbol.[/QUOTE]It is unrealistic. There are very few of those kind of girls on these sites. If they had those kind of credentials they would not be selling pussy in the first place. Most of the girls are uneducated and don't want to flip burgers for a living. Its easier and more lucrative to flip pussy. Money is the biggest motivation for girls to sell pussy. Only a nut case, pussy hungry dude like us would give them $$ for something that is widely available for free. Pussy. An old lion too slow to catch its normal prey starts to eat people, an old dude is the same, cannot catch the usual prey, so we start to eat young hot escorts. So be realistic. Don't go looking for love in all the wrong places. These kind of girls are made for fucking not loving.

She posted on Racine page but incall apt. Is near 30th / Wis. Fake pics but nice spinner body with many tats. Says she's a dancer. DATY on the menu but I passed on the bearded appetizer. BBBJ to start. When I asked if she had a condom she said they were in her car. Not positive but it seemed like she would have gone BBFS. I said I had 1 in my car and I'd be right back. When I returned she was on her back with her head hanging off the foot of the bed. Needless to say, the cover didn't go on right away. After some throat I rolled on the condom for mish (no kissing) and some doggy (while she checked her phone LOL). Then she finished me off with the best head I ever had. That may not be saying much now that I think about it. But the girls got skills for sure. 100 half 150 full. I'll be back for oral. The rest was meh.

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